Note: non-T-mobile variant straight from OnePlus's site (unlocked global)
I wanted to get Android 11 early so upon first beta release, I installed it. I had tons of troubles (like everyone else) and ultimately had to wipe my phone, which fixed many issues. I still have a few super annoying ones but it's mostly usable. I'm now on OP7Pro_02_Beta_4 and have been waiting for further fixes for months! My wife has the same phone and apparently at some point she got the Android 11 update (non beta) which I didn't know was pushed. Her phone is very stable with no issues.
Why the heck is my phone still on a broken and very much beta version when the stable release is out? I'm assuming my beta 4 is an earlier release than my wife's 11.0.1.1? I assumed my phone, getting beta releases, would end up on a stable version, but now I'm thinking it will only ever get beta updates? How are you supposed to compare beta vs regular release and how do I get back to a stable version? I'm guessing a wipe is the only way?
Lastly, does anybody recommend rooting this phone? I've ALWAYS rooted previous phones but I've been happy with the (mostly) bloat free unrooted OnePlus phones.
You get beta updates on the beta channel, stable updates on the stable channel. It's that simple.
You can upgrade to the latest stable using the inbuilt system updater itself. Your data will be wiped only if the firmware you're currently on has a security patch newer than the firmware you're going to upgrade to. I think you probably have March security patch on OB4 and 11.0.1.1 has May security patch, so you won't lose your data while switching.
I have had root access on my 7 Pro since day 1. I wouldn't recommend it unless you really need it. I just use a magisk module to change my font style to Google Sans. Then I use GravityBox for some statusbar and lockscreen tweaking. I also use Swift Installer for a proper dark (black) theme system wide.
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Or wait a couple of months for them to tweak it a bit?
I only run Magik and not Xposed, not that it matters!
I'm not rooted, but I've been running R since the first public ßeta.
It's been the smallest update so far in a long time for Android. Very little has changed, compared to previous major version upgrades.
If you can root (and from what I read i think you can with Magisk), make a full backup and try it.
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I don't really know what you'd be waiting for. I don't think a non-rooted person would notice much in terms of drawbacks. Magisk modules level, there were some issues... but I think most things are getting worked out. Xposed technically works, but more than half of my modules broke in a way that probably won't be fixed for a while. I still feel like I'm at a net-negative in terms of phone features. A11 brought little and broke a lot of my QoL tweaks that used Xposed.
I make no claims about SafetyNet as I use no apps that even check it.
I think A11 has been released formally by google and most of issues have been fixed or addressed.
I used magisk and edxposed. That's not a problem for me(I used Edxposed for fingerface only). Regarding of safetynet issue, it also has solution to make it pass by magisk modules and kernel side.
Until now, I'm happy with A11.
I ended up doing a full wipe and upgrade to Android 11 Oct 2020.
I have Magisk running with the SQL Lite mods for Google Pay and obviously I have root so I'm basically back where I was on Android 10.
I hadn't use Xposed yet and I don't know if I will yet. I was using Viper Audio mod but I don't know if I noticed a major difference, mostly I just stream bluetooth in my SUV.
So far, so good.
I tried it and reverted back to 10 - as mentioned didn't gain much but broke a lot. Even in stock form I can't get videos to load a subtitle file because of storage permissions and what not. A tweaked out install of 10 is faaaar nicer imo so that's what I'm running, probably until a new phone comes out sadly.
Kris Chen said:
I think A11 has been released formally by google and most of issues have been fixed or addressed.
I used magisk and edxposed. That's not a problem for me(I used Edxposed for fingerface only). Regarding of safetynet issue, it also has solution to make it pass by magisk modules and kernel side.
Until now, I'm happy with A11.
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can i ask how you upgraded to A11? Im on 10 rooted with magisk and keep hearing mixed messages on upgrading. And is it necessary to wipe? I really don't want to.
A11 is not too bad, but as others have said little things here and there that break. Like for me I listen to SiriusXM app on mobile and for some odd reason it will stop playing all of a sudden and close. It's like the aggressive memory management kills the app for no reason. I even have battery optimization turned off and still does it.
Thinking about moving back to A10 from August, not really much I have to have to stick with latest A11 updates.
qman66 said:
can i ask how you upgraded to A11? Im on 10 rooted with magisk and keep hearing mixed messages on upgrading. And is it necessary to wipe? I really don't want to.
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Flash the factory image, but remove the -w in the flash-all file. Then in Magisk Manager switch tot he beta channel and patch the boot image with that. Flash it and you're done.
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Flash the factory image, but remove the -w in the flash-all file. Then in Magisk Manager switch tot he beta channel and patch the boot image with that. Flash it and you're done.
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You do know the latest version of magisk has a11 support?
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Flash the factory image, but remove the -w in the flash-all file. Then in Magisk Manager switch tot he beta channel and patch the boot image with that. Flash it and you're done.
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Ok so I shouldn't install it via the ota? I keep getting the pop up to update every day.
Does using Magisk to dl / install the OTA, then patch the non-live and newly flashed partition, then finally rebooting not work?
When I was rooted that was always the easiest way.
And based upon the post 2 above this one, Magisk now supports A11 without ẞeta, right?
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kdoggy said:
I ended up doing a full wipe and upgrade to Android 11 Oct 2020.
I have Magisk running with the SQL Lite mods for Google Pay and obviously I have root so I'm basically back where I was on Android 10.
I hadn't use Xposed yet and I don't know if I will yet. I was using Viper Audio mod but I don't know if I noticed a major difference, mostly I just stream bluetooth in my SUV.
So far, so good.
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How is 11 for you going so far, I am thinking in reverting back to 10, battery is awful on 11
To those currently using it, how stable is the newest Open Beta? And if it's stable is it worth trying out?
I've always been rooted with TWRP. This is the first time I've used stock. The last time I updated I used the Oxygen updater app.
Will it wipe data if I switch to Open Beta? and if I decide to switch back to stable will I need to wipe data?
Only reason I ask is because last week some people on beta received a stable version and I guess it messed things up for some of them.
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It's been a long time since I've updated my phone and I've put it off additionally because I assume it'll be a nuisance. I'm on Omni version It's been a long time since I've updated my phone and I've put it off additionally because I assume it'll be a nuisance. I'm on Omni version 9-20190331-oneplus6-WEEKLY and think I may have never correctly rooted it, evidently by opening the TWRP app and Titanium Backup have issues so I have at least a couple concerns:
What ROM should I upgrade to? Thinking something like Lineage
How do I correctly update up Android 10 - then 11?
It's been so long since I've done this, are there other items I'm not thinking of?
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It's been a long time since I've updated my phone and I've put it off additionally because I assume it'll be a nuisance. I'm on Omni version It's been a long time since I've updated my phone and I've put it off additionally because I assume it'll be a nuisance. I'm on Omni version 9-20190331-oneplus6-WEEKLY and think I may have never correctly rooted it, evidently by opening the TWRP app and Titanium Backup have issues so I have at least a couple concerns:
What ROM should I upgrade to? Thinking something like Lineage
How do I correctly update up Android 10 - then 11?
It's been so long since I've done this, are there other items I'm not thinking of?
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You can go to omni A10 if you like. It is much better to go A10 ROM for stability but if you like A11 ROM it's up to you if bugs and issues does not bother you. But prior to upgrading you must upgrade first your base OOS to at least 10.3.9 in my opinion because 10.3.10 and 10.3.11 have issues in some people.
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It's been a long time since I've updated my phone and I've put it off additionally because I assume it'll be a nuisance. I'm on Omni version It's been a long time since I've updated my phone and I've put it off additionally because I assume it'll be a nuisance. I'm on Omni version 9-20190331-oneplus6-WEEKLY and think I may have never correctly rooted it, evidently by opening the TWRP app and Titanium Backup have issues so I have at least a couple concerns:
What ROM should I upgrade to? Thinking something like Lineage
How do I correctly update up Android 10 - then 11?
It's been so long since I've done this, are there other items I'm not thinking of?
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In my view, stock is the best option. The next release will be Android 11. However, if Custom rom's are your choice. I'd prefer to go with MIUI and my second will be Omni or other Enchilada versions. As they tend to use Google apps which in my view is not user friendly and intuitive to use. The most stable ones of them will be Lineage OS . The latest versions can be found over this forum.
Not sure if this really should be going to the noob friendly thread, but since it is a couple of questions covering various Android related issues, I figured that I will make it a separate thread after all.
1. Sometime updating an Android version would also end up updating the bootloader, at time rendering it impossible to downgrade again. Can this also happen in custom ROM (e.g. Lineage). I am asking this because I am thinking of custom ROM with newer Android version on my Galaxy S7, but may want to revert to a relatively old Android 7.0 after I am done testing.
2. Do file systems (the way application, application data are stored in the system and other information) etc. tend to stay the same as stock for a given Android version? For example between stock Android 7.1 and Lineage 14.1.
3. Same question as question 2., but between major Android versions (e.g. stock 7.1 and stock 8.0).
4. On rooted devices, can you usually update major version update without losing any data, and is it usually trouble free?
Feel free to skip reading this part, but for some background information, the reason I am asking all those questions is because one of the app I tried to restore via Titanium Backup and Swift Backup both failed. The application itself launches properly, but as soon as I restore the data, it would instantly crash and close. My guess is that this is probably caused by attempt to go from Android 6.0 to 11.0. Maybe it is the backup software or maybe something changed in the way files are stored, but whatever the reason, it just won't work.
So I am thinking that my best option is to try it to restore it on an Android 7.0 phone that I have (also on the way to be retired, and if it works, update to Android 8.0. Since Android 8.0 was the last officially released major version for that phone, and I was thinking that if it does work, perhaps I could alternatively go for an early Lineage ROM, then make gradual updates up to Android 11.0 and see if it helps the app remain unbroken. And then if it does work, perhaps I could then make a backup then restore it on the other new Android 11.0 phone that I have.
All in all, it is a silly amount of work to do just for one app.. but it is important to me, so I will exhaust every option that I can think of to find a solution.
Thanks!
Looking to revert back to android 11 and need to know what to do to not brick my phone.
Currently have an unlocked galaxy s21 plus, Odin is installed and so is a 4 file firmware package for Android 11..
I have USB debugging checked and most things backed up before I perform a factory reset..
Is there anything else that I'm missing, am I completely wrong? Sorry, it's been a long time since I've done anything like this
As long as it wasn't a OTA upgrade that also updated the bootloader version you should be able to roll back.
Make sure all critical data is redundantly backed up. Verify it's all there and readable.
So did you succeed in this?
Edit: It's downgradeable ez pz. Just download the latest Android 11 and flash via Odin. I have the Exynos version.
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So did you succeed in this?
Edit: It's downgradeable ez pz. Just download the latest Android 11 and flash via Odin. I have the Exynos version.
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But what if the bootloader was updated? Maybe Snapdragon is different
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But what if the bootloader was updated? Maybe Snapdragon is different
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Probably. On the N10+'s snaps apparently it's not so you can roll back from 12 to 11 but no further. I'm still running Pie and 10 on my N10+'s and will not upgrade either.
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Probably. On the N10+'s snaps apparently it's not so you can roll back from 12 to 11 but no further. I'm still running Pie and 10 on my N10+'s and will not upgrade either.
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11 is the best iteration out of all mentioned, so I recommend you upgrade to that at least. 12 was a beta testing software, but 13 is again a step in the right direction and OneUI 5 is really becoming a powerhouse. Now if only they got rid of the bloatware, but that's also easier than ever to manage nowadays.
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But what if the bootloader was updated? Maybe Snapdragon is different
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You'll have more luck finding answers in the S21 Ultra section. Can't remember the exact bootloader versions, but if it's one of the later ones, you won't be able to revert. Android 12 is a piece of trash.
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11 is the best iteration out of all mentioned, so I recommend you upgrade to that at least. 12 was a beta testing software, but 13 is again a step in the right direction and OneUI 5 is really becoming a powerhouse. Now if only they got rid of the bloatware, but that's also easier than ever to manage nowadays.
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I doubt that as cpu cycle sucking scoped storage is fully active on 11 and above. On Android 9 and 10* it isn't. Not willing to risk screwing up 2 fast, stable, clean running machines that are fulfilling their mission by changing the firmware. To hell with global elitist Google's disinformation and hype Gookill... I see you
Not vaxing my N10+'s either☠
Bloatware is easy to stop from at boot up on stock Samsung's with Package Disabler (not on Playstore). Fastest and easiest solution.
*haven't used my N10+ Android 10 much so I need to do a comparison with my other one loaded with Pie. Will a 2 5+ yo Pie load beat out a freshly loaded and configured Q load? Q seems to get slightly worse SOT, so far, but I need to play with it more as it may not be fully dialed in yet.
My oldest N10+/N975U/Pie runs like a bat out of hell. It's current load is 2.5+yo. It is my most stable platform of any OS in the last 18 years.