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I bought a Fuze at no commitment today, and after I left the store, I noticed that the sales rep took off my MEdia Max 200 Bundle and replaced it with a PDA Plan. I had asked him not to touch my account.
So how can I get the MEdia Max bundle back? I have been poking around online in my account and can't seem to find a way. Any help would be appreciated.
have u tried puttin your sim in another phone ..changingit to the medis max online and then switching the sim back into the fuze??..idk ..jus a thought
Try to convince them that you're using an old phone again...otherwise I don't think you can get it back. Talked to one of the sales people today and he said they're really cracking down on that lately. I still have Media Max, so we'll se how long it lasts.
*Decided to check my phone before bed and I can't get a data connection any more...the salesman said they were actively blocking medianet data plans on these phones, looks like he may have been right.
Bummer. My old phone is a Tilt, and before that an 8525.
Manage your account online?
1) Go to https://www.wireless.att.com/olam/dashboardAction.olamexecute
2) Change device to something like the Shine or Vu
3) Change data plan to MediaNet Unlimited/Max
Doesn't require calling or otherwise lying to a person over the phone.
I can't say/promise this will work with the Fuze -- but it did with the Tilt.
I personally like AT&T's service, so I'm glad to pay an extra $10/month for internet service. YMMV so I respect others decision to pay less if the service isn't working well for you.
BBM-Lee said:
Manage your account online?
1) Go to https://www.wireless.att.com/olam/dashboardAction.olamexecute
2) Change device to something like the Shine or Vu
3) Change data plan to MediaNet Unlimited/Max
Doesn't require calling or otherwise lying to a person over the phone.
I can't say/promise this will work with the Fuze -- but it did with the Tilt.
I personally like AT&T's service, so I'm glad to pay an extra $10/month for internet service. YMMV so I respect others decision to pay less if the service isn't working well for you.
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I just checked this in my account options and switched my phone from the Tilt to a Samsung A117, but the MediaMax bundles/options aren't available. It still only lists PDA plans, with a minimum add-on of $30/month for unlimited data and $35/month minimum if you're looking for a bundled text option (200 message). Things aren't looking good if they do a check on my features when I upgrade to the Fuze. Has anybody else had their MediaMax taken away/replaced who switched to a Fuze?
This is odd but a nice surprise...after my data stopped working altogether last night I checked it again this afternoon when I had time and noticed it was back working again. I checked my account online and it still has MediaMax, so I'm not sure what my issue was.
If you have an old phone that is supposed to be on Media Max like SMT5600, put the SIM in that phone, make a call, and also open up a webpage.
Now try to go online account and see if you can change the dataplan.
If not call customer care and tell them you have decided to return the Fuze and are now back on your old phone and would like MediaMax put back on the way it was before.
That's what I did and it worked for me
If you all do actually change your pda data to media net. you WILL NOT recieve your rebate, for those that have already done it, kiss that rebate goodbye. For those who have not, wait till you get your rebate then do the sim swap data change.
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If you have an old phone that is supposed to be on Media Max like SMT5600, put the SIM in that phone, make a call, and also open up a webpage.
Now try to go online account and see if you can change the dataplan.
If not call customer care and tell them you have decided to return the Fuze and are now back on your old phone and would like MediaMax put back on the way it was before.
That's what I did and it worked for me
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There not stupid, you have a 30 day return policy, cust care can see when you got it (its updated on your account) and if you have returned it, by the date of contract.
The same exact thing happened to me at the store. The rep. told me he was "leaving my account exactly as it is" and when I got home, I had no data plan attached. I angrily called care and demanded my Media Max plan back and was able to get it back but noticed the next day that my data plan seemed to be bottlenecked. In the course of calling tech support for help, they saw that I was using the FUZE, told me that I needed to change my plan for it to work, and then changed it. Low and behold, my FUZE is working as planned.
I may or may not try to switch back at some point to the MediaMax plan since I do have an old 3G handset lying around.
For those of you who are going to attempt to add an older phone IMEI to your account, make sure that your device is 3G capable or your account won't get the "UMTS Attach" feature which automatically gets added when you add a 3G IMEI.
i have a few different old phones lieing around and everytime i put my SIM card in one of those phones and visit the ATT website my device is automatically updated. However, i still can't enable media net. Does media net only work for the phones listed on the ATT site for media net?
Why is MediaMAX more desirable than the PDA + 200 text plan? Aren't both unlimited data and 200 text for $35 a month?
MediaMax is $20/month
You can get MediaMax with unlimited data and text for $35/month whereas the same with the PDA plan is $50/month
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If you all do actually change your pda data to media net. you WILL NOT recieve your rebate, for those that have already done it, kiss that rebate goodbye. For those who have not, wait till you get your rebate then do the sim swap data change.
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So basically what you are saying is, if your Media Max plan is taken away (and I do have one, using it on my current Treo 680 happily) when you begin using the Fuze you just have to suck up the fees for the high PDA data plan until you get your rebate back months later, then at that point stick the sim in another phone and try to switch it back?
Call me crazy, but I have a feeling that AT&T has implemented certain tracking features with this phone that were never present before, such as limiting internet access and being able to fully track usage and data plan automatically with this phone.
Reasoning:
1. I logged into my account online and where I usually see the feature "UMTS Attach", it was replaced with "Tracking Feature UMTS" from the date that I got the FUZE.
2. When I switched back to MediaMax instead of the PDA Personal Plan, my internet worked flawlessly until later on that day when I was getting bottlenecked speeds of 25 kbps max until I called care and re-added the PDA Personal plan.
3. HSDPA disabled by default and the normal reg. changes which would stick no longer function properly.
4. MUCH tighter feature control on this handset than on any handset prior to it: GPS doesn't even work until you download AT&T Navigator, TF3D is completely contstricted by AT&T customizations, Opera comes with AT&T proxies hidden buried in settings etc.
Overall, I think that AT&T has worked very closely with HTC on this phone in particular to reel in advanced users in an attempt to keep them in their walled garden.
Thoughts?
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So basically what you are saying is, if your Media Max plan is taken away (and I do have one, using it on my current Treo 680 happily) when you begin using the Fuze you just have to suck up the fees for the high PDA data plan until you get your rebate back months later, then at that point stick the sim in another phone and try to switch it back?
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What im saying is when you upgrade to ANY PDA, the condition of getting your rebate is the correct feature. I.E. Pda Personal. When the rebate department check's to make sure its still active and the rate hasn't changed as well as the feature then your rebate is processed. If any of the required criteria has changed you will get a postcard saying DENIED. You really need to read the conditions of the rebate witch is stated on the rebate itself.
As far as the Rep changing the feature, this is a gray area. The upgrade of activation WILL NOT allow you to proceed unless the PDA personal feature is added. So in case of upgrade this is why most of you are seeing media net taken off. The rep is required to tell you if a feature is going to be changed, however when it is changed the WSA (wireless service agreement) you sign before leaving states changes made. Calling and griping will get you no were, due to the fact it is impossible to change back to media net if there is a PDA tagged to the account.
So you have a option, keep the PDA personal feature (it works better than media net anyway) Or don't get a PDA. However, when you go do your upgrade, new line, add on whatever. Make sure you know what you are getting. You would not get a credit card without knowing the intrest rate first would you?
You can do the SIM swap trick but wait till you get the rebate.
As far as the feature tracking and control on the phone itself. For the love of god FLASH A ROM. Most senior members and ROM cookers that have ripped the stock rom apart have a general idea why im saying this. FLASH FLASH and FLASH some more. AT&T really did a number on this rom!!!!
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Call me crazy, but I have a feeling that AT&T has implemented certain tracking features with this phone that were never present before, such as limiting internet access and being able to fully track usage and data plan automatically with this phone.
4. MUCH tighter feature control on this handset than on any handset prior to it: GPS doesn't even work until you download AT&T Navigator, TF3D is completely contstricted by AT&T customizations, Opera comes with AT&T proxies hidden buried in settings etc.
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My GPS worked fine out of the box, as well as others who have done reviews.
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pmcall said:
I bought a Fuze at no commitment today, and after I left the store, I noticed that the sales rep took off my MEdia Max 200 Bundle and replaced it with a PDA Plan. I had asked him not to touch my account.
So how can I get the MEdia Max bundle back? I have been poking around online in my account and can't seem to find a way. Any help would be appreciated.
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I am a store manager for an AT&T authorized retailer (private owned). PM me you email address and i will contact you there and i will switch everything over for you.
for the fuze owners. i would like to know what all you guys are paying for your internet access. with a cooked rom, is at&t still able to tell what phone your using? i tried searching for this answer but have not found a definate answer. thanks.
Greg
I believe AT&T OLAM can still tell what phone you'er using. IMEI is hard coded, there isn't any way to hide it unless you probably did something with the hardware (like flashing some chip with some special tool). If you're wondering becuase of the mandatory data plans, and them switching... well I made a call to them, I don't have data, ask for a data opt out, they gave it to me (this was before it became mandatory), but they said if they ever updated my IMEI to my Fuze I'd have to get the data plan apparently, as they still have me down as using a Moto SLVR L7, which I got years ago, and have switched between that phone, a Nokia 6102i, and the Fuze. He said I'd have to update it manually over the phone if I wanted. So, they can tell, but it seems like right now you have to update your IMEI over the phone.
at&t can tell what phone you're using, but it wont be able to tell what software you are running.
I'm using ATT's standard $30 unlimited..
thanks for the answers. i see that when i check my account online, it changes to what phone i am using at that time. however, i have used phones that are not at&t branded. it then can not tell what phone i was using. just thought there was a way around the 30$ plan. it really bugs me that they charge such a difference for data. heck, i pay less than that for my dsl at home. again i appreciate the responses.
the general idea is to provide them with the imei of a non smartphone and you pay $15 a month instead, but if they catch you, i do not know what will happen since it is not exactly legal
[][][]DISCLAIMER - ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIGURE WHAT IF ANY LEGAL IMPLICATIONS ANY OF THIS MAY HAVE IN YOUR AREA, THREAD IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY!![][][]
Well there's a lot of conflicting information, this first post is reserved for the ultimate list or so, forgive the future constant editing. And, though i make a bare, rudimentary effort, irc rules for punctuation apply - only when really needed
Here's the scenario:
a. sprint branded touch pro 2
b. friend who owns boost auth. [and others] cell store
c. goal - boost cdma
d. never been activated!
problems i've run into so far:
at least with the initial activation you cannot choose ANY of the 3 cdma phones boost sells [sold?]. Wonder why? Well your in luck i've spent about 14 hrs on the phone with sprint and boost so far, and have a few answers. Reps for either Co. feel free to comment.
a. of the phones they offer for the cdma or offered as the case may be, the primary obstacle is that the meid [dec] does not fall in the same //family// as theirs. Currently they are looking for a 268..... [there's another one i don't have in front of me offhand, will edit this later with that].
b. Second point of contention: When investigating the process that cells are 'authorized' for use on a carrier it seems to fall down to talking to someone who is both willing and able to add a given phone's id to inventory.
1. so if your wondering why metropcs is so easy, but boost is so hard:
A. the software houdini - that's the authorized dealer's access portal to the metropcs inventory. That is why its the only 'legal' way to get a [good/bad/non-metropcs] imei/esn/dec/{whatever they wanna call it this week} into the system.
B. Once its in inventory, the phone must also at least have the correct PRL - Preferred Roaming List. After that's where custom roms come in
[ anyone feel free to correct me i've no personal pride tied up here ]
2. so essentially what we're looking for is a boost agent who is capable of inputting this legit clean never-been-used dec.
a. Tried using the phone models they do offer, with my real dec - no go. Two models are having 11digit dec, the other one has 15 digits.
So no offense to those who have said they had existing service, but added a phone, here i have to call BS. Again in MY experience, over 4 hours calling in to many many MANY different reps - i could not even activate the phone - ONTO THE BOOST UNLIMITED CDMA PLAN - to an active account with over a half dozen lines.
[ for the curious, the shop owner was using his acct for that step, as if we can ever figure this out, we plan to offer it out, as long as its a legit process, etc. ]
Now here's the kicker - the phone cannot be added to even an existing Boost Unlimited CDMA account ONLY because of several re-cyclical reasons [those they use to justify each other and when all are heard end up in some sort of circular logic pattern]
What i've heard so far [again feel free to add in here]:
1. amount of digits in imei cannot work
2. i am not capable
3. only second level tech can do inventory adds
4. there is only one level of tech support at boost and we do not know how to do it
5. we cannot activate it since we don't know the phone model
6. you cannot put sprint on boost no matter what
7. that phone is incompatible
Keep in mind, i'm about a half step from an FCC filing, as they can certainly deny custom service for no reason, however in telecommunications the company is legally responsible for what their operators say. If you can prove they offered you XXXXX and there's a recording, a long drawn out investigation CAN reveal these facts, and remember mediation is your only option unless you can PROVE they are violating the contract, which is the thing requiring mediation. [the FCC can check if they are in violation, but this is a lot of work and time to get started, and even worse getting finished lol.]
so with the blustering anger out of the way lets review the boost excuses:
1. - possible.. i can see a software/database check to ensure against, well i'm sure fraud is usually the reason given for this type of policy, it makes sense - just frustrating.
2. lies.
3. need rep confirmation
4. need rep confirmation
5. lies.
6. lies.
7. LIEZ!
so for compatibility lets review the sprint branded touch pro 2:
cdma - check
gsm - check
edge - check
evdeo - check
iden - check
hsdpa - NOPE
fm radio - DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT
[Ive not tried my hand yet, get to that next week... shoot i don't even listen to the radio, i just hate being locked out of anything that my device is capable of, JUST IN CASE ]
So in conclusion, I think [so far]:
a. they can
b. they don't wanna
c. sometimes someone's probably frustrated with job and does anyway
d. wondering if it matters where you say your from [I'm in calli - its on the cdma list]
[][][]Lets try not to flame them [boost/sprint], this makes marketing sense for a number of reasons for them to do this, I, and many of you, it seems just do not want to pay more than needed just to use a cool phone.[][][]
Hate to bump like this, but 120 views and no opinions?? oi!
I LOVE this type of tinkering, this is what the guys at 2600 love to find answers for.
Another reason SIM cards are superior, as there is no jumping through hoops to add a phone to the system.
I dont have a solution, however you have more access than most to the network with your buddy a BOOST store owner. There is a very low probability you will be able to add this phone for the pure reason you stated of adding a new phone not being currently sold to the BOOST network.
One thing, is it possible to get a phone activated on the Boost network, then clone the ESN from the working phone to the TP2, I know people can change the CID # so might be able to change the ESN, only way I can think of without a level 2 insider.
GL
Force
forcelite said:
I LOVE this type of tinkering, this is what the guys at 2600 love to find answers for.
Another reason SIM cards are superior, as there is no jumping through hoops to add a phone to the system.
I dont have a solution, however you have more access than most to the network with your buddy a BOOST store owner. There is a very low probability you will be able to add this phone for the pure reason you stated of adding a new phone not being currently sold to the BOOST network.
One thing, is it possible to get a phone activated on the Boost network, then clone the ESN from the working phone to the TP2, I know people can change the CID # so might be able to change the ESN, only way I can think of without a level 2 insider.
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Force
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see the thing is, i'm pretty sure i can change the esn, but i'm not sure of the implications - even if i was doing it legit. And if i did, the guy's gonna want me to do it to dozens of others so i'd have to consult legal eagle before going that route. cloning a working phone is definately a felony. Cloning a phone you own and that is non-functional - mmmmmmm - who knows.
i got a sprint tp2 on boost cdma and i got proof
I as well have a Sprint Touch Pro 2 on Boost Mobile unlimited. It was pretty easy too but there's a website that I won't mention (Not sure about the rules) that does this stuff.
I personally already had the iDen account for a year or so and in a case where you're already on the iDen network, you can just call and tell them you want to switch to the CDMA service and give them the numbers off the phone. Obviously some reps will do it and some won't but I believe if you're nice and patient it can easily be done.
If you are going to just start a CDMA account, you need a boost branded phone to start the account and then later call back and switch in your other phone.
But, for whatever reason, a small number of TP2's cannot be activated on Boost. From reading people have tried figuring out if it has something to do with the numbers or what but no one has come up with anything.
I am happy to be one of those ppl to have my tp2 activated on boost. It is also one of those hard to activate numbers they talk about. Had a little problem getting it programmed to work, but now everything works. I had to make several calls to customer service not by regular means. google boost mobile customer service for a different number and dial 88 at the prompt. Takes you to a live agent no wait time at all. Still took 3 trys but finally a nice rep walked me through the process and stated several times they could not be held responsible if it did not work. Thanks everyone for your help.
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I am happy to be one of those ppl to have my tp2 activated on boost. It is also one of those hard to activate numbers they talk about. Had a little problem getting it programmed to work, but now everything works. I had to make several calls to customer service not by regular means. google boost mobile customer service for a different number and dial 88 at the prompt. Takes you to a live agent no wait time at all. Still took 3 trys but finally a nice rep walked me through the process and stated several times they could not be held responsible if it did not work. Thanks everyone for your help.
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That's basically how I was also able to get a Sprint CDMA Blackberry on the boost mobile network almost a year ago now. I just kept calling until i spoke to someone who actually knew what they were doing and was generally actually a nice person and they did it for me on the phone. They can do it if they want to. They would probably give it more consideration if you already have a data plan with another network and tell them you want to make the switch. That's what I'm planning on doing tomorrow. Personally I believe a cell phone bill should be in the range of $20. You have to consider that the signals are in the air whether you use them or not, so they might as well take your $20 just have to navigate past the BS as with anything. I'm pissed at my new TP2 service on T-mobile now because they told me the 15$ no contract unlimited text and 10cents a minute talk came with 2gb of data and now I am finding out that was a lie. I probably should have checked better but hey I was in a rush and they are throwing commercials out on TV for another contract plan that has web access for 10$ and that threw me off a little into thinking they were a decent company so I'm pissed. Pretty sure I can get my money back if they don't give me what I want, but otherwise I'm going to boost or virgin mobile one way or the other.
Hey guys, I'm new to Android and
just coming off a feature phone. I want to keep the Captivate, but can't justify spending so much on the data plan. Is there any way to fool At&t into thinking I don't have a smart phone? I've heard some things about people messing with apn's.
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Long and the short of it is, you can "try" but good luck. IMO its worth the money as the Captivate is a data hungry device. ATT tracks phones by IMEI numbers and as soon as they detect your phone theyll add a data plan for you.
BTW if you actually get through and are able to have ATT block a data plan for you good luck with the data charges .....Unless your always connected to wifi you will most likely get some charges.
IMO if you get a smartphone its worth the money for a data plan, if you dont ahve one unless you are around wifi it almost defeats the purpose.
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Hey guys, I'm new to Android and
just coming off a feature phone. I want to keep the Captivate, but can't justify spending so much on the data plan. Is there any way to fool At&t into thinking I don't have a smart phone? I've heard some things about people messing with apn's.
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So basically you want all the features of a smartphone without having to pay? Don't we all.
I understand where you're coming from. Even the "lower" cost of $15 a month is $180 a year. The way cellular plans and data plans work in this country is absolutely ridiculous. They are expensive.
But what are you going to do? It boils down to if you want it, you gotta pay for it.
I am a person that travels the world. I used to think the same way, that this that or the other is way expensive. Until I started doing buisness abroad. Data plans in other countries are more expensive than ours, less bandwidth and restricted usage. So yeah, as much as I hate to have to pay, it could be worse.
One way is to grab the IMEI of a non smart phone and get someone at AT&T to input it manually. That will only last till you need to contact support for any reason.Then you are back to square one. Sooo, if you want to play you will more and likely have to pay.
My friend had the same thing. When he we went to the att store, they said it's absolutely mandatory to have the data plan as it is with the iPhone. My friend told them that he had a blackberry and it's mandatory for a data plan and he was able to block it by caling in head quarters. Then another guy made up some bull **** and said "after september 1st, 2009, we no longer block internet to internet required phones". Doesn't make sense, but what ever. We explained that to him, but he said "well ATT usually gives a 1 time courtesy". The next morning, he calls ATT headquarters and askes to block the internet. took about 10 minutes on the phone, and it was completely blocked from here on out.
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So basically you want all the features of a smartphone without having to pay? Don't we all.
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There's a lot more to do with smartphones than use a data plan. My first year with a Touch HD I didn't have a data plan. Finally decided to get one some months ago and I've maybe checked out 5 websites. That's all I've done with it.
So I can totally understand why some people could care less if they had a data plan and would rather not pay for something they aren't going to use.
I don't see the point in this. If you don't want to pay the $30 a month dataplan, then just buy a normal cell phone and an iPod Touch.
nah the capti can still be pretty useful without data in my opinion.
Also, you're best bet is to call them and ask to talk to higher ups. Be honest and tell them what you want. If they say no, say well i guess i'll have to find a service provider that is more understanding. See how they grovel after that. And if they don't do it for you, call again.
Many of the apps and games dont require a data plan, so if you purchase them directly from the publisher and sideload them onto your phone, you'll be saving that 15-30 bucks a month. It's all really about what you want out of the device. I'd rather have an android w/o a data plan than no android at all..
I have heard if you call with a flip phone and say you lost the other phone, then you can cancel the data and have them put a block on it. I have heard of success doing it that way. But it is worth it to pay the data IMHO.
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I don't see the point in this. If you don't want to pay the $30 a month dataplan, then just buy a normal cell phone and an iPod Touch.
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This is absolutely ridiculous that you guys are brainwashed into thinking a smartphone is useless without data. It is not, my brother wants a smartphone and he's mostly at home around wifi. But most of all he wants android and to play the games and emulators that you can use on the phone. He doesn't want to hunk around a gba, psp, ds, etc. Just wants a music/video playing, high quality camera, video game, ebook reading, app installing mini computer. Doesn't need data and some people don't like iOS.
The only reason I need data mostly is to use google maps. Thats practically 80% of my data usage.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html#post65013
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If you haven't heard all ready Verizon is tracking down root users and limiting there data or fully suspending it so watch out. But we have to fight back against them by hiding Verizon from seeing that we are proudly rooted and some people have said the would sue Verizon. Please do whatever you can to fight against this.
Also motorola and htc are going to start doing the same.
Im not happy about this, if it is or going to happen but even if we root the device, carriers don't have to allow it on their service. After all we did modify the device and thats all they need to use agaianst us...
Yes and since when can they see what we are doing and what else could they find out using that aoftware
oh noes...my porn watching days are coming to an end....
Regarding Tmo, yes they allow tethering for free, but throttle you after 5gb. So I'm not going to jump over there. I don't think rooting should be prevented, but it is understandable that vzw would want to stop unpaid tethering. Unlike Tmo they do charge extra for that.
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Honestly, I think they should just make hotspot free after they start tiered plans. They'll get a their money either way.
But this move is something I can totally understand. Do I like it, no. It's a real shame how closed Android is becoming. I never thought we would get to this point, but this time next year, Android might not be open as we'd like it.
Only hope of keeping Android Android is the Nexus line. Hopefully Google starts to bring it to all carriers in a yearly fashion.
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So I guess the question is, since the thunderbolt was htc most locked down phone to date, is if any of this root identifying software is located deep inside its code? I'm coming from sprint and the epic 4G and there was code hidden in there called carrier IQ that pretty much logged everything you did on the phone, your calls trxt, usage, whatever. Sounds alarming that it had that ability but what was weird is that even though it was running and functional the actual logging was turned off. I, and a lot of other people, wondered why this would be in a phone and after reading this im thinking sprint made samsung put it in there. So now I'm curious about what verizon asked htc to hide in the thunderbolt?
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2 things. Verizon can see on there computer what software your on. So that right there will immediately through up a red flag. Another thing I'm kinda leaning toward Verizon on this one. For example when 4G hits my area. Verizon customers will increase. Doing so if my neighbor is tethering off his phone constantly then he's taking up all the bandwidth and my quality of service will depreciate. Now if he was capped and paying for tethering he would use it more conservative. I believe this is what Verizon is getting at. It's not about control , its about quality of network service for others.
There's probably no way to sue them bastards... It's their network and this is just a cap in data usage (like they haven't done that already.)
Verizon has been evil since the very beginning. All they wanted was our money, and probably our soul.
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http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html#post65013
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If you haven't heard all ready Verizon is tracking down root users and limiting there data or fully suspending it so watch out. But we have to fight back against them by hiding Verizon from seeing that we are proudly rooted and some people have said the would sue Verizon. Please do whatever you can to fight against this.
Also motorola and htc are going to start doing the same.
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Complete nonsense (ok not complete, just a lot of it), both this post and the post you link to.
I brought this up with a few friends at Verizon (in various departments) yesterday, all had the same response .. a chuckle.
This whole thread is a fail. I freaking hate nonsense rumors.
FoxRacR17 said:
So I guess the question is, since the thunderbolt was htc most locked down phone to date, is if any of this root identifying software is located deep inside its code? I'm coming from sprint and the epic 4G and there was code hidden in there called carrier IQ that pretty much logged everything you did on the phone, your calls trxt, usage, whatever. Sounds alarming that it had that ability but what was weird is that even though it was running and functional the actual logging was turned off. I, and a lot of other people, wondered why this would be in a phone and after reading this im thinking sprint made samsung put it in there. So now I'm curious about what verizon asked htc to hide in the thunderbolt?
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No, no root identifying software on the phone.
newalker91 said:
These threats are insignificant. Blocking users from rooting their phone would be a loss for all, as it is one of the major reasons for buying Android. If they did so to stop users from tethering, then we'll be seeing a spike in T-Mobile customers as they allow you to tether at your leisure for no additional cost. Being on an open source operating system, it would be illegal for them to tell you how you can use your technology and what modifications you're allowed to make to it.
I'll stay rooted and I will continue to tether via USB and rack up my apparently corporate-rattling 1GB of stolen bandwidth to demo THEIR products. Interesting concept.
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Nothing in Apache or GPLv2 prevents them from telling you how you can use your technology, or prevents them from locking down the device.
magicriggs said:
2 things. Verizon can see on there computer what software your on. So that right there will immediately through up a red flag. Another thing I'm kinda leaning toward Verizon on this one. For example when 4G hits my area. Verizon customers will increase. Doing so if my neighbor is tethering off his phone constantly then he's taking up all the bandwidth and my quality of service will depreciate. Now if he was capped and paying for tethering he would use it more conservative. I believe this is what Verizon is getting at. It's not about control , its about quality of network service for others.
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Verizon can not tell if you are on a custom rom or not.
cuguy said:
There's probably no way to sue them bastards... It's their network and this is just a cap in data usage (like they haven't done that already.)
Verizon has been evil since the very beginning. All they wanted was our money, and probably our soul.
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Not sure if evil is the right word...sure it sucks but they are a business, not a charity.
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I dont have my TB yet, but i plan to root it and run Das BAMF, but not tether anything. Hopefully they dont just lump rooted phones together.
Jcase bringing the truth
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Hey lets pretend the article is 100% accurate which because P3Droid wrote it I would say has some possibility of being the case, as of this point verizon is not doing anything besides tracking. And no one knows when and if they will do anything else. Theirs a whole lot of what they can do, but besides having a legal and finance department, they also have a marketing department which wont let them unleash a PR nightmare. Taking 1/10 (which is what I believe the current agreed upon number of root users, i may be wrong with this figure) of your smartphone users and either canceling their contracts or killing service on their devices with threat of an ETF would probably amount to over 1 million users with root access being effected. It just wont happen that way, its not logical for them to do it, because with that many users effected it would be all over TV and such.
The only hope that you could sue them would be if they hit you with a ETF, which they probably wouldn't. Most likely their looking for people sharing wifi on their devices with 3rd party apps just like AT&T did and will tack on the mifi hotspot cost to your bill if you continue to do do, and say if you don't like it break your own contract.
If they were to all out attack everyone with root access I would really be shocked, specifically because they would have to most likely cancel everyone contract with no ETF and then users would just flock to sprint. Who regardless of what this article says probably wont follow suit, at least for a few years because of their market share and the Tmobile & at&t merger.
Again the end of this is just my two cents but the beginning is true VZ isnt doing anything besides information gathering at this point.
I work at Verizon. I can pull up basically everything you see on your about info. Including software.
magicriggs said:
I work at Verizon. I can pull up basically everything you see on your about info. Including software.
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You might be able to pull up the build finger print, or radio version, but those shouldn't differ. The fingerprints should stay consistent. You can't see that user123 is using RomX instead of stock.
Private message me and ill pull up your account.
magicriggs said:
Private message me and ill pull up your account.
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Yes, I will get right on that, handing you (a stranger, and possibly an employee at Verizon) my name/number </sarcasm>.
cuguy said:
There's probably no way to sue them bastards... It's their network and this is just a cap in data usage (like they haven't done that already.)
Verizon has been evil since the very beginning. All they wanted was our money, and probably our soul.
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yes its their network but we paid for our phones and we should be able to do whatever we want with them