Difference update or reinstall for memory? - General Questions and Answers

Hello
Firstly, sorry my bad English. İ hope that İ can tell what İ want to tell.
We have apps on android and updating these.
Is there a difference in memory between updating and reinstalling apps?
İ want to ask for get larger memory.

In both cases some extra internal storage memory is needed to store the archive ( APK, ZIP, TAR ) at first before it gets unpacked to its final location on internal storage memory.

jwoegerbauer said:
In both cases some extra internal storage memory is needed to store the archive ( APK, ZIP, TAR ) at first before it gets unpacked to its final location on internal storage memory.
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Thank you.
I wonder if the memory swells when updating it constantly? Will it take up less space if we remove it and install it again after a while?

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Zip Mobile.... Help Please

Hello
I not sure if this is the right place to post this but...
Has anyone else found that Zip Mobile on Windows Mobile v6.1 is using storage space when unziping files and not returning the space once closed?
I have just noticed that there is now 10mb less storage left on my internal memory after unzipping a 58mb file on my memory card to my memory card (I have checked and the data was definatly unzipped to my memory card).
As i am using an Acer M900 storage memory starts at 128mb and any remaining memory is like gold-dust!
I can't understand why this would happen or how to reclame the lost internal storage memory...
Please can anyone help?
Many thanks
Machepablo
machepablo said:
Hello
I not sure if this is the right place to post this but...
Has anyone else found that Zip Mobile on Windows Mobile v6.1 is using storage space when unziping files and not returning the space once closed?
I have just noticed that there is now 10mb less storage left on my internal memory after unzipping a 58mb file on my memory card to my memory card (I have checked and the data was definatly unzipped to my memory card).
As i am using an Acer M900 storage memory starts at 128mb and any remaining memory is like gold-dust!
I can't understand why this would happen or how to reclame the lost internal storage memory...
Please can anyone help?
Many thanks
Machepablo
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Sounds like your phone is creating a duplicate file in a folder to enable you to view a file within a zipped folder. You'll need to find the location of this folder which contains the duplicate file and delete it.

Vodafone Smart tab 2 (Lenovo A2107A) - Swap SD

I couldnt find a dedicate thread for Vodafone Smart tab 2. So I guess I ll post this here maybe will help some people.
This tablet is basicaly a Lenovo A2107 (A2107A_A404_010_002_120913_VODA)
- with single sim slot ( call feature restricted - only data enabled) and 4gb storage (1.8 gb user available)
For root - you can use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044496
User isyrider managed to install recovery and pemergency rom unlocking the calling feature also.
I was looking for a way to swap the internal storage with the sd card so I could get more space if posible without installing a custom rom to avoid incompatibility issues that could appear. Directory bind can help with big game files like gameloft but those 2 gb are still not too much . I was unable to install N.O.V.A 3 because it requires 1.81 gb free on sd.
Anyway long story short . To swap internal memory with SD card you need to have root and replace your VOLD.FSTAB file from system/etc with the one I attached.
You need to have root .
Use any root explorer.
Unzip attachment
Rename your VOLD.FSTAB to VOLD.FSTAB.BAK
Copy my VOLD.FSTAB to system/etc
Reboot.
Check in settings, You will see your sd card listed as internal memory.
This combined with link2sd app will give you plenty of space to install anything .
Hope this helps .
Hi icrazy, I've tried this procedure but unfortunately, I wasn't able to copy your 'vold.fstab' to the directory 'system/etc'. I've rooted my unit before I did this. Now the unit cannot detect SD card. I cannot rename/copy/move any file on this directory. please help... How to restore it, Thank you in advance
Hello, I don't understand what happen. If you were not able to copy my vold.fstab what did you change ? I ask this because you must have done something if now is not working.
Anyway it looks like is a problem with your file explorer , make sure it has read /write rights for system files.
Can you please share some light on isyrider? what is that? where can we find it? Google search didn't seem to help me with this
Is there any way in unlocking the phone feature without installing a different ROM? The last time i did that, with another lenovo tablet, i lost my 3g capabilities , and honestly i don't want to repeat that thing allover again.
Thank you icrazy, working perfectly
I have now 2x Vodafone Smart Tab II 7" with 4 GB and 8 GB storage on internal memory
Hi i managed to use the vold.fstab and replace the internal memory with the sdcard but my problem wasnt solved because the tablet also has another partition 503mb of internal storage and when i install any app will install the apps data on that internal storage even if i have sdcard or internal memory as default write disk so after a couple of apps i have the out of space issue because the internal storage is full is there any way to swap the internal storage 503mb ( not the internal memory 1.85gb) with the internal memory or even with the sdcard this is really stupid why have only 503mb of internal storage if the apps save keep saving data on that partition
Regards
Cristian.Ene said:
Can you please share some light on isyrider? what is that? where can we find it? Google search didn't seem to help me with this
Is there any way in unlocking the phone feature without installing a different ROM? The last time i did that, with another lenovo tablet, i lost my 3g capabilities , and honestly i don't want to repeat that thing allover again.
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Sorry to bump an old thread but i'm also wondering how it's possible to install a custom rom on this tablet. Any help aprecciated

[MOD] Increase Internal Memory of ZTE Blade C V807 to 2.5GB

I did not create this Mod!! All credit to the Developer!!​
I still have the ZTE Blade C V807 also known as the ZTE V880S. One downside to this phone is the low internal memory it comes with. It has a built in 512MB of internal spaces and 2GB of internal storage to store files saved in phone. Good enough it comes with an SD Card slot to allow the user expand phone storage upto 32GB
The low internal spaces allows the user to install a few apps which is really annoying. This Mod converts built-in storage to internal space thus expanding internal space to 2.5GB on addition to the built-in internal space.
It is advisable to backup all your files on the internal storage as the Mod will wipe them all. It also should be applied when installing a new rom
How to apply:
Download Mod and place it on the SD Card
Boot into recovery (TWRP or CWM)
Wipe Data/Reset
Flash ROM
Navigate to SD Card and Apply 3wd_FormatMOD.zip Mod
Reboot
Done
To reset conversion (Undo process) do all the above but this time, apply 3wd_FormatMODbak.zip Mod
Do not use this!!!
UPDATE:
I discovered, that I made a mistake, since I wanted to apply this on v889s.
So most probably it is not meant to use with v889s.
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ORIGINAL:
I applied the file and all it did was decreasing my internal storage from ~2GB to 10MB.
Then I wanted to remove and almost killed my phone!
had to do a format from the flash-tool from the pc, then use the flash-tool to download a new rom on the phone!
DO NOT USE!!!!
tohotom said:
I applied the file and all it did was decreasing my internal storage from ~2GB to 10MB.
Then I wanted to remove and almost killed my phone!
had to do a format from the flash-tool from the pc, then use the flash-tool to download a new rom on the phone!
DO NOT USE!!!!
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You should have checked and seen the increase in internal space (space on which to install apps) before you tell others not to use it.
The Mod coverts your built-in storage into internal space!!! That's why there was a decrease in your internal storage, which was added onto your internal space!!
You're then left with a 10mb of internal storage but you have an SD Card slot to easily expand that.
The advantage to this mod is that it increases your internal space to 2.5 GB thus giving you more space to install apps!!
tohotom said:
I applied the file and all it did was decreasing my internal storage from ~2GB to 10MB.
Then I wanted to remove and almost killed my phone!
had to do a format from the flash-tool from the pc, then use the flash-tool to download a new rom on the phone!
DO NOT USE!!!!
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Also you should have read and understood the post before you expressed your dislike... Many have used that mod. I still have the ZTE v807. I use that mod.
tohotom said:
I applied the file and all it did was decreasing my internal storage from ~2GB to 10MB.
Then I wanted to remove and almost killed my phone!
had to do a format from the flash-tool from the pc, then use the flash-tool to download a new rom on the phone!
DO NOT USE!!!!
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Do you notice the size of the internal space on this ZTE V807? It's 2.5GB. That's what you didn't check before you thought the mod had done harm. It increases internal space, and it gets that space from your internal storage and leaves you with a 10mb internal storage but the phone already has an SD Card slot.
tohotom said:
I applied the file and all it did was decreasing my internal storage from ~2GB to 10MB.
Then I wanted to remove and almost killed my phone!
had to do a format from the flash-tool from the pc, then use the flash-tool to download a new rom on the phone!
DO NOT USE!!!!
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To verify phone model
Hi,
I understand that this works for you, and also understand that you are not happy if someone says not to install. Probably I should have written "Use at your own risk" and describe my experience.
But please note, that I also checked internal space and didn't see any change. Also I wanted to warn people, I didn't want anybody else to brick their phone. I think I still couldn't totally recover my phone, since now my IMEI is lost and I don't have a backup on NVRAM.
However, I realized that I was the fool, since I did not read carefully the instructions, and I have v889s and not the v880s. I will edit my previous entry. Sorry.
BTW, do you have nvram backup for v889s?
thanks
Andras

8gb internal storage solutions

So I got the Moto G 1gb, 8 gigs of internal storage version.
I love this phone so far and I've pretty much set it up how I'd like it, but the 8gb internal storage has turned into an issue.
I got Appmanager III, moved pretty much everything to my 32 gig external, but I still have only like 600 mb to spare on the internal, with well over half of the external left over.
Is there another app that will allow me to move all the app data left over in the internal over to the external?
If that's not enough, I'd also be interested in knowing if there's any way I can force the system to use the external as the main storage for all the OS functions. I already used adb to set all the default downloads to the external.
Finally, I'd like to know if custom ROMs like cyanogenmod would use up less storage than the stock OS, or at least let me use more of my internal by reducing the amount of bloatware (why can i NOT get rid of google movies or google+??? come ON)
I'm rooted and have installed twrp so both root and custom recovery solutions are welcome. Thanks for your time and help!
If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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bruce7373 said:
If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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System apps, ie those that come with the phone such as google movies, live in the system partition. If they are updated then the update lives in the internal storage. Uninstalling via titanium will of course free up both system and internal storage space.
However just disabling them will be sufficient, this will remove all updates from internal storage and just leave the apk in the system partition. Its the internal storage that you want to be less full as this is where user apps, pictures etc all reside (assuming you haven't yet moved them to an SD card).
Disabling is less drastic than uninstalling and is maybe the preferred option in case you otherwise uninstall something that breaks your phone.
I've tried that, but for whatever reason if I disable, say, google play movie or whatever, my phone eventually ends up redownloading them? It's really odd and honestly pretty annoying.
I'd still like to know if there's any way to keep all the main app data on the external or something though. Are Cyanogenmod ROMs installers smaller? I don't need THAT much more space to feel comfortable, having 1 gigabyte would be ok with me. I just don't like having like 600 MB free at most...
EDIT: If I can just move the app data for a few games and Google Chrome, that should fix it, too. Those seem to be the real space hogs, so if I can move those I should be able to handle everything else
EDIT EDIT: Would an app like Link2SD work for this phone or has no one tested that yet?
Hi Tazzypilar, Yes Link2Sd wil work wery well. All wat you have to do is to install MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional on your PC, then put your micro SD card in the cardreader on your desktop or laptop to make two partitions on your SdMicro card (card must be class 10). Start program MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional and look for your microSD card on the list with disks. Right click on your removable disk (micro sd card) and you can resize your first Fat32 partition and make it smaller for at least 2 GB. After that you will have 2 GB unused space behind this Fat32 partition. Now click with right mouse on this unused space and choose „Create“ new partition and make it ext4 file system partition. You will be prompt „Are you sure that you want to make ext4 partiton because Windows can't see it ?“ and answare „Yes“ . So, one partition will be Fat32 and you can make it as big as you like depending on the size of your MicroSd card and second should be at least 2GB (or greater - also may be smaller, it's up to you) ext4 partition and there you will move your apps from the internal phone memory.
That's all, after that you have to install Link2Sd from playstore and link apps you like to move to your SdCard. Succes ! If you have more questions jut ask !
Greetz !
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Where did my storage go?
Just asked my self a very similar questions
I attachment a screen shot
From the 8gb 3,5 go to Android system
So 4,5gb for internal I thought., but no.
I installed about 2gb of apps and 200mb cache.
Ah I forgot to mention that this is a fresh install after factory reset and still I am missing alot of storage see screen shot
Is this normal? I am on stock not rooted with some apps already moved to SD Any ideas?
Upgrade to android M, use external SD as internal card
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
sandipkc7 said:
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal
Look for posts on link2sd, it needs to be a fast card and then formatted using both std FAT and ext (linux) partitions. Then you can move almost everything.
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Though Im using LG H502F. Correct me if Im wrong but I think thats because the internal storage is emulated. Ive been using Link2SD and it works well. I can link app data and external data to the mounted partition. The only difference I noticed was... When opening the app it takes a couple of second or more compared to the unlinked apps... Anyways. Try to check if your storage is emulated. If it is, then that 3GB available space for a stock rom is as good as it gets. Mine have 8GB rom but the end user is only 3GB something.
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merlin2380 said:
I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal
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In android M you can "transform" your sd card in internal memory (in Settings>Storage>SdCard>Definitions). If you have a fast 32 Gb card, you can format it to internal and it is as you have 32 Gb internal memory, but your sdcard must "live" with your phone (can't be used as sdcard in other device).
I think that is what @sandipkc7 means.
I did that not very usefull
merlin2380 said:
I did that not very usefull
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Tried internal storage option in marshmallow and at first i taught it was rubbish, but i kinda left sdcard alone and install another ROM.
So stuff on my internal storage was nowhere to be found. I installed latest recovery (TWRP) Flashed another rom and this is where things started to get interesting.
When i first converted sdcard to use as internal storage my phone was still eating up the internal memory 8GB on the phone.
Now however android system decided to do away with internal 8GB memory and use sdcard as a main storage. my photos are stored there and all data i noticed that almost everything is installed on sdcard now. so my storage is not vanishing away. I have about 1.7GB used on there.
There are some apps that can be moved manually to sdcard storage (converted to internal) - for example some of the system apps and most of google apps stay in phones memory not on sdcard and they can't be moved manually.
So my advise is covert your card to internal memory and then do factory reset or install another ROM.
Option 2 as mentioned above in posts is to use app called Link2SD - it is worth to opt for paid version which gives you more options of what to copy to 2nd partiton of your sdcard.
i have amazon fire 7 (£50 tablet) setup with option 2 - same storage 8GB. It works well. due to lack of marshmallow for this device i cannot use internal sd as an option. I have 2GB used there and rest sits on sdcard. i have installed few resource (storage) hugging apps - 1.2 GB, 2 GB each (gameloft games) - all moved to sd with link2sd app.
on my moto g 2015 i use android build in solution and it works well. You have to keep in mind that with this solution you can't simply copy files to your computer. Sdcard is encrypted at device level and it can only be access via your phone. However you can use any wifi file transfer app to copy some files over or via phones hotspot (i use droid over wifi or web pc suite to name few).
hope this helped a little
sandipkc7 said:
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............
marsrolled said:
honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............
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Because of this slow down i did a reset to default settings. This did help and now the phone works much better, just make sure you always have 500MB empty on the internal storage, anything less and tbe phone performance goes down imediatly.
All the talking about this no so vreat sdcardinteral storage feature was too much for my 32 GB samsung evo micro sd card, it died less than 6 months of service. This was already the 2nd from the evo series that hung up on me and let me to dataloss thanks to google drive all was backedup
I will now root the phone and get a custom rom, probaply cm offical
Did you ever find out how to recover that lost 2GB? I have the exact same problem and managed to maybe find the 2GB in the /data folder; however it is sys locked and I'm not ready to root a brand new phone yet.
I have 8 apps installed (not counting google/motorola pre-installed) on my Moto G3 and showing 3.72GB used of 4.53GB available internal. It then shows 1.36 GB used by apps, 1.71 MB by cache. Other 2GB is a mystery?Device storage shows only 16GB used of 37GB availabe due to SD card.

Storage isues

Hello,
I have a GoClever Aries 785 (M7841) Tab, and supposedly it is an 8 GB tab, since I can ot post any images because I am a new user this will be harder, I will try to transcript from the screenshots I have taken, here we go:
1. You see this when you press the "Storage" tab in settings:
Storage
Rom information
Internal Rom 8192 MB
System 7528 MB
User Available 664 MB
Okay so, What does all this mean? Am I missing something obvious here? Internal Rom as I understand is the total memory the device has? And System is how much is currently being used as a total? User available is self explanatory. I am not new to flashing Android Roms and such, but this is confusing me for some reason. Moving on to the next image and closer to the main question
2 In the same "Storage" tab I see a section called:
Flash storage
Total space: 5.06 GB
Available: 664 MB
(And on it goes with how much storage the apps, pics and so on occupy)
As I understand, this Flash Storage is an emulated internal SD card or something
3. Another section is:
Internal storage
Total space: 0.98GB
Available: 287MB
Apps (SYSTEM APPS IN FACT) and cached data takes about 500MB
So that adds up to what? 6 GBs? As I understand 3 GB is hidden and used by the Android system?
The point of all this is this leaves me with like a half a GB to download apps and install them because they all go to internal storage and not flash storage or SD card. WTF? I am constantly having issues of low storage and when I reach a certain limit Google Play does not even let download apps. I can have the Flash storage as empty as I want and an SD card as large as I want but because the internal storage has only 300 MB available I am not able to download apps. I can download apps if there is free internal storage and move them to flash storage from the app manager, but the system still leaves some data in the Internal storage and I do not think I can move them to an SD card, so since when I move an app to the Flash storage and it leaves some data in Internal, I come to a point when it is full again and there is nothing I can do about it. I cant select the default write disk to be Flash stage or SD, but I think it is only for the camera, voice recorder and etc. How do I work around this? Is there a way to reparation the storage so there would be more space of Internal storage? Or maybe some thing else I could do? I can not even have apps like Facebook or the Google Docs that I need, I have to constancy clean cache so I cant at least get like 20 MB more.
Device is rooted, I can access device internal storage with ES file explorer.
If you have gotten this far, I thank you for reading my novel, I have tried to explain everything as clear as I can and to include as much info as I can, some of it might have been useless. Sorry for a long post.
No one has the answer?
Hi !
If the device has been rooted then some improper storage readings may occur
Install DiskInfo from playstore for a better image of your storage
You can use but be careful with SdMaid from playstore as well
Basically , a 8GB Rom is the total storage your device has been built with which actually means 7629.39 mb in real
From this amount , 3 gb may be the system which you can`t fill it up with user`s apps or personal files , the rest of it is the user`s space storage from which 500 mb is the cache
In the end , without any personal files or user`s apps , the amount of available storage may be 4291.53 mb so , try to remove all the personal (media) files away (audio , video, downloads ...) and check how much free space you`ll get
Your system may be capable of moving user`s app to flash storage but this is limited to certain folders like data folder of the application , the obb won`t move out
A good application is Apps2Sd from playstore but again , be very careful and properly read the xda`s thread before doing anything
Good luck !

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