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Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
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It is certainpy possible with a pc. You could use a raspberry pi as a "converter" so you can output to your tv
jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
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If your device has MHL (Like the HTC EVO 3D), you have HDMI out through the USB port.
You just need an MHL adapter. Other than that, if your phone does not support HDMI out, it won't have it.
USB to HDMI?
You mean hdmi to USB correct? I used this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KI8IMW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
to connect a monitor to my PC via USB 3.0 (has worked like a charm for weeks now.
They are designing a new one, or perhaps it's already out. Search ianker.com if you are looking for something similar.
#UP:
I use the same Very good conventer
jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
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In the generic sense, no. As noted above, some mobile devices have USB-style connectors that support MHL (Mobile High-Definition Link), which allow low-cost cables to support HDMI output and/or USB.
For PCs (Windows, Macs and Linux), there are video adapters that can be thought of as video cards that connect via USB (rather than PCI Express, for example). This kind of adapter could work on tablets, phones, etc. if there were a driver written for them, but this is a nontrivial task and the market is unproven, especially as MHL adoption grows.
Jonathan from Plugable
monoprice.com seach usb to hdmi
The only issue is if the device does not have mhl, then as of right now theres no way of gerting it to work in that sense. Even if you use say CM roms they cant take advantage of mhl even id your phone supports it. The devs have stated time and time again its proprietary and will basically never come. Regardless, im much more interested in miracast, simply put wireless hdmi connection to your tv. I have my nexus 7 using it via my ras pi. However its not polished yet and is a similar state to what Ive gotten using samsungs version with a dongle. Check it out if your interested google Android Transporter. Its on the raspberry pi website. They also got it working on the galaxy nexus and some other nexus device's.
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Something that was sorely missing from the OnePlus 5 was OIS.
Can anyone confirm if its got it.
Edit: yes it does
Second question I think I know the answer to but thought I'd ask.
I think no for both, but wait for launch day, who knows?
EDIT: OIS is most likely confirmed. (German Amazon leaked specs) But no HDMi sadly.
_MartyMan_ said:
I think no for both, but wait for launch day, who knows?
EDIT: OIS is most likely confirmed. (German Amazon leaked specs) But no HDMi sadly.
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Good news about OIS, the HDMI out of a killer, but displaylink will still work.
Are you sure about no HDMI out? Isn't that something that Android supports by default and since 1+6 will jave usb c I see no reason why it should not support?
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Are you sure about no HDMI out? Isn't that something that Android supports by default and since 1+6 will jave usb c I see no reason why it should not support?
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No I'm afraid not, the last device to be able to use HDMI directly from usb-c was the HTC 10 to my recollection, since googles pixel doesn't use direct usb-c to HDMI, all devices are now the same.
Display link technology is a dock with its own chipset, meaning it can render for the device.
I have a thread in the one plus 5 forum because there simply was no way to use a wired solution, I've had the one plus since midnight on its launch day, the general idea was that HDMI out was not possible, I tested the display link devices I've got and it works.
You need an app but it works well.
Hopefully on the next batch of phones we can use HDMI directly, but I'd assume not.
As in topic, does asus zenfone 6 have ability to stream out video through usb to hdmi adapter?
After some time android q will come to this device and it will contain native desktop mode so i would like to use it.
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
mikek753 said:
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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According to GSMarena it's 2.0.
I looked at the USB diagrams and it appears that alternate modes over USB-C use the same pins as SuperSpeed meaning that you can't have alternate mode without the other (but not vice versa).
Unless I'm missing something, there shouldn't be any display mode. However I'm not sure if the GSMarena data sheet is accurate.
I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?
pawloland said:
I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?
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Display output via microusb worked differently as the regular port does not have the pins or bandwidth for it. I had an LG G2 which could also output a display signal. I think it's possible to do the same via USB-C but at the same time I think it's simpler to use alternate mode hence the conclusion I came up with. If I have the time I'll go digging around some more later.
I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.
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I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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I looked at a few things and I think I was correct in my first post. While I think it would be technically possible to implement MHL on USB-C like they did on MicroB (it would just piggyback off the necessary pins like it used to do), it doesn't seem like it would make sense to do that and I can't find an adapter/cable that would work in that scenario so you'd need 3.1 because they all require Alternate Mode support. However Alternate Mode is an optional spec so just because a device supports 3.1 doesn't mean it'll support display functionality.
I should also note that the ROG Phone has USB-C 3.1 according to GSMArena.
Another note is that it appears that MHL officially lists MHL as working on USB-C via Alternate Mode.
Meanwhile ASUS launching an external display that is advertised to support input from a mobile phone, but hey, no their latest flagship. they are so dumb they are launching devices that don't their other devices..
why would anyone cheap on using usb2.0 connector, when internally SD855 supports 3.1 and so does UFS2.1, is beyond me. It must save la 0.something to use 2.0 instead of 3.1
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging
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Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging
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Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?
No native HDMI output for my device using usb-c to hdmi cable.
However I think the Asus portable monitor thingy they announced at computex actually supports data over usb to transfer the image.. but I am not sure at all.
mikek753 said:
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.
Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)
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The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.
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IIRC video output via Displaylink adapter works on every device if it can install displaylink app. Displaylink support doesn't depend on mhl support on specific device. I'm just to clarifying for internet strangers.
gnrsenpai said:
Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)
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I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.
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Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?
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usb-c cable, i use that cable for macbook to have second monitor, and charging
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I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.
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please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Nubia red magic 3 is your best best. It doesn't support HDMI output yet but apparently they've said they may support it in a software update. It has USB c 3.1. Also 90hz screen, headphone jack, 5000ma battery, SD 855, it even has a CPU fan lol. It's newly out but I think you can install twrp and root it but customs ROMs might be few if any. It's the closest phone I've found to meeting my needs of 3.5mm, SD 855 and HDMI. Only thing it's missing is expandable really.
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mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Specs
https://m.gsmarena.com/zte_nubia_red_magic_3-9692.php
Oh, and it's only £410.......
Hi, any news? Has anyone bought a displaylink product and used it working with the Zenphone 6?
I got a USB-C hub adapter that has USB 3, SD card readers and HDMI out, but it doesn't seem to work.
No video out.
Are there any settings I need to change to make it work? Any OTG settings or something?
This is the adapter I have.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000544358433.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.1cf54c4dwgapcH
The first one on the left.
Nope, it seems it was either disabled in the kernel or the pins weren't configured to enable DP Alt Mode.
I have usb c with my dell monitor and I can confirm it works fine. It screen mirrors it.
Even the hdr works from plex, emby etc.
My Samsung tab s6 has it disabled, so annoying.
2 conflicting answers, I guess your best bet @samusx is to buy it & try it yourself, good luck!
No issues here
It works for me as well. I connected my Oppo Find X2 with a USB-C hub and then with a regular hdmi cable to a cheap beamer and it worked fine.
Good luck!
[edit] I have a Hyperdrive USB-C connector [/edit]
Works fine here.
i have one. it's work on Android10. but no work on Android11.
I got a USB-c hub including an HDMI out, and it does work.
My X2 Pro is currently on Android 10.
When the update comes out eventually for my phone and I update, I hope it still works.
Hi everyone!
Please, Android 11 is it possible the HDMI output? Oppo find x2
Works on android 11, this is how I play cod mobile using xbox controller. Maybe not all USB standards are the same. Like not all USB-C to 3.5mm jack are the same. Make sure you try more adapters/dongles.
Does the video out (USB-C to HDMI) functionality still / again work with ColorOS v13?
Nexus-3 said:
Does the video out (USB-C to HDMI) functionality still / again work with ColorOS v13?
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I will buy adapter 20.04 then i will inform You
Nexus-3 said:
Does the video out (USB-C to HDMI) functionality still / again work with ColorOS v13?
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Not sure if it still helps you, but I just tested it after breaking my screen and plugging it into a usb hub with HDMI connected to a monitor. It mirrors the screen just fine.
I have tried 2 different Ethernet adapter/hubs with my Pixel 7 Pro. They are: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LCHDRP9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W52R8KY?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details These will not allow the Ethernet tethering setting to activate on the Pixel 7 Pro, although both work instantly with my Samsung. I need one that will put a mouse pointer on the phone's screen and allow the use of a keyboard, and may need power input, unless I can power it with the phone upside down in the pixel stand. If nothing else, a working plain Ethernet adapter, and I will use Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Google sells one for their 4k chromecast, but they fail to specify if it will work for Ethernet tethering on the Pixel 7 Pro.
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I have tried 2 different Ethernet adapter/hubs with my Pixel 7 Pro. They are: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LCHDRP9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W52R8KY?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details These will not allow the Ethernet tethering setting to activate on the Pixel 7 Pro, although both work instantly with my Samsung. I need one that will put a mouse pointer on the phone's screen and allow the use of a keyboard, and may need power input, unless I can power it with the phone upside down in the pixel stand. If nothing else, a working plain Ethernet adapter, and I will use Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Google sells one for their 4k chromecast, but they fail to specify if it will work for Ethernet tethering on the Pixel 7 Pro.
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I haven't been able to get anything to work with stability on either of my two docks so I don't have a large enough selection to make a definitive statement on the support, but the farthest I've gotten is using my dock that has an RTL8153A-4. It will work for a bit, but when pushing enough data it'll end up resetting. Hits up to 400Mbps but then it drops out. That's par for the course with early RTL8153 chips. It's also a terrible dock and the seller has been banned from Amazon for one reason or another, so can add that on too.
On the other hand I have a more modern Yottamaster NVMe dock that I use with my Steam Deck and it works great. Surprisingly, it is almost fully functional on my phone except for display (obviously know why) and Ethernet. It's using the RTL8153B-2, but I can't get any data to pass over it. The r8152 kernel driver reports that it can't load the firmware, because the phone doesn't have any firmware from linux-firmware outside of what is needed for the hardware internally. Both the kernel driver and Ethernet system report when a cable is connected and the carrier is on, but nothing makes it over the cable.
The first dock you linked also has an RTL8153, so at this point I'm guessing newer revision RTL8153 support is just broken on the phones without the ability to load firmware for them. The second dock you linked inspires some confidence that it will have an AX88178 controller in it, but I've looked at docks recently on Amazon and ones that list AX88178/AX88179 are apparently silently subbing them out for the RTL8153 according to reviews. You're going to have to plug it in to your computer to check what the Ethernet controller shows up as.
Best course of action I can see is to either try to find a dock with an AX88178 in it if your second dock actually has an RTL8153 in it, or get an older USB 2.0 RTL8152 adapter since those are more reliable although that restricts you to 10/100.
It's a bit of an older model but I have been using an Aukey CB-C71 with a Pixel 7 Pro and previously Pixel 6 Pro with ethernet, USB-PD, USB keyboard, and USB wireless mouse. I have used USB PD with everything from the original Nexus 6p chargers to various Windows and Mac laptop chargers without issues.
bing321 said:
It's a bit of an older model but I have been using an Aukey CB-C71 with a Pixel 7 Pro and previously Pixel 6 Pro with ethernet, USB-PD, USB keyboard, and USB wireless mouse. I have used USB PD with everything from the original Nexus 6p chargers to various Windows and Mac laptop chargers without issues.
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I'm curious, do you know what chipset the CB-C71 uses? I have another adapter on the way from Amazon, if that doesn't work out I may try the CB-C71 or a device with a similar chipset.
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I'm curious, do you know what chipset the CB-C71 uses? I have another adapter on the way from Amazon, if that doesn't work out I may try the CB-C71 or a device with a similar chipset.
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I really can't say for sure, but this is the output from 'sudo lshw'
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8152 driverversion=v1.12.13 duplex=full firmware=rtl8153b-2 v1 10/23/19 ip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=1Gbit/s
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I really can't say for sure, but this is the output from 'sudo lshw'
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8152 driverversion=v1.12.13 duplex=full firmware=rtl8153b-2 v1 10/23/19 ip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=1Gbit/s
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RTL8153B-2, interesting that it doesn't have any issues.
I found an adapter that works: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGHKLSPG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details It is gigabit, with power port. It works without its power plugged in and the phone upside down on the powered pixel stand. I would still like to buy a real hub with gigabit ethernet for the P7P, if someone finds one.
This Anker one works just fine
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This Anker one works just fine
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That meets most of my specs. The problem is only 4k 30hz HDMI. If I want to use it with a 4k 60hz device that can use the HDMI output, (obviously not the crippled Pixel line) I would be downgrading.