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Hello,
I'm a European living in the US but also spending my time quite a bit in Europe. Therefore I want the dual sim version of the S10e.
Now I'm wondering how bad will it be using the European version in the US in terms of carrier support, reception, functions like WiFi-Calling etc?
As far as my research got me I found that the EU version is called SM-G970F and supports these LTE bands:
1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
Compared to factory unlocked US version:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 66, 71
The US carriers use these LTE bands (bold for main usage):
T-Mobile: 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71
Verizon 2, 4, 5, 13, 66
I guess that implies that for instance Verizon is not really usable at all and for T-Mobile I'd only have sort of half the network. Is this correct?
Is there anything else I need to consider before buying?
Thanks guys!
Floppy1009 said:
Hello,
I'm a European living in the US but also spending my time quite a bit in Europe. Therefore I want the dual sim version of the S10e.
Now I'm wondering how bad will it be using the European version in the US in terms of carrier support, reception, functions like WiFi-Calling etc?
As far as my research got me I found that the EU version is called SM-G970F and supports these LTE bands:
1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
Compared to factory unlocked US version:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 66, 71
The US carriers use these LTE bands (bold for main usage):
T-Mobile: 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71
Verizon 2, 4, 5, 13, 66
I guess that implies that for instance Verizon is not really usable at all and for T-Mobile I'd only have sort of half the network. Is this correct?
Is there anything else I need to consider before buying?
Thanks guys!
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I'm using international version in the US for two weeks now, with Ultramobile (T-Mobile MVNO). I live in NY/NJ area and didn't experience any problems with reception, call quality on network speeds. WiFi Calling works great. On one hand I noticed that S10e shows less 'signal strength bars' than my previous phone (ZUK Z2), but on the other with Samsung I get some reception in placed where Z2 could not connect.
The only problem I've had are delayed notifications when screen is off (or even when app runs in the background). I didn't get notification when someone was calling me on WhatsApp, Signal or Messenger Lite. Only after couple minutes a missed call notification appeared. Turned off battery optimization and memory usage checking for those apps, but that didn't help. Searched the internet and many people have the same problem with Android in general (e.g. my wife experiences same issue with her Nokia 7). One thing that solves the issue is having a permanent VPN connection. I have NordVPN subscription and after turning it on all notifications appear immediately.
Floppy1009 said:
Hello,
I'm a European living in the US but also spending my time quite a bit in Europe. Therefore I want the dual sim version of the S10e.
Now I'm wondering how bad will it be using the European version in the US in terms of carrier support, reception, functions like WiFi-Calling etc?
As far as my research got me I found that the EU version is called SM-G970F and supports these LTE bands:
1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
Compared to factory unlocked US version:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 66, 71
The US carriers use these LTE bands (bold for main usage):
T-Mobile: 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71
Verizon 2, 4, 5, 13, 66
I guess that implies that for instance Verizon is not really usable at all and for T-Mobile I'd only have sort of half the network. Is this correct?
Is there anything else I need to consider before buying?
Thanks guys!
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I have the SM-G970F with North American CSC but it is TPA (Panama).
I use tmobile and I get LTE+, wifi calling works, Volte (video calling works, HD calling works.
Only thing unfortunately that doesn't work is the "Caller ID and Spam Protection" in call settings. Anyone have a CSC they use that Caller ID and Spam Protection feature works?
Hi Guys.
I saw this publication on Ebay and according to its description, the frequency support corresponds to the "B" version of the phone (which supports the LTE band 4), is it already on sale?, until now I've only seen the "A" version:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-ZenFone-6-Desbloqueado-128GB-de-doble-SIM-6-4in-6GB-Ram-48MP-AI-ZS630KL-Negro-/183856126779?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0
Is it already possible to purchase said phone on a frequency other than the "A" version?.
For comparison sake, here are all phone's versions:
A version:
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 38, 40, 41)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 5, 8)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz)
B version:
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 26, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 38, 39, 41*, 46) *LTE B41 (2535–2655 120MHz)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 19)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz)
support 4x4 MIMO & HO RxD
C version:
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 26, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 38, 39, 41*, 46) *LTE B41 (2535–2655 120MHz)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 19)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz)
support 4x4 MIMO & HO RxD
source: https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/Tech-Specs/
Regards.
If you are here in the states, you want the C. Band 12 is used by T-Mobile, and the MVNO's that run off Tmo service..
Just a FYI
newsguy99 said:
If you are here in the states, you want the C. Band 12 is used by T-Mobile, and the MVNO's that run off Tmo service..
Just a FYI
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Thanks for the input, I'm not in the states, either version B or C is fine for me (not the A though), from what you're saying it seems that the version C is yet to be released, do you know if version B is already out?.
Thanks in advance.
Version B was available on eBay from various Taiwan sellers.
It's a shame Asus removed band 40 support for versions B and C, while adding 4x4 MIMO for the same. In India, Jio uses band 40, and also 4x4 MIMO. I wonder if using some mods with the NVRAM, it will be possible to enable band 40 in versions B/C.
CDMA variant?
Does anyone know if their might be a CDMA variant in the works?
gnrsenpai said:
Hi Guys.
I saw this publication on Ebay and according to its description, the frequency support corresponds to the "B" version of the phone (which supports the LTE band 4), is it already on sale?, until now I've only seen the "A" version:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-ZenFo...779?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0
Is it already possible to purchase said phone on a frequency other than the "A" version?.
For comparison sake, here are all phone's versions:
A version:
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 38, 40, 41)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 5, 8)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz)
B version:
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 26, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 38, 39, 41*, 46) *LTE B41 (2535–2655 120MHz)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 19)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz)
support 4x4 MIMO & HO RxD
C version:
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 26, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 38, 39, 41*, 46) *LTE B41 (2535–2655 120MHz)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 19)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz)
support 4x4 MIMO & HO RxD
source: https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/Tech-Specs/
Regards.
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What on the box would indicate which model you have? I'll post this as a fresh thread actually
on my box i can see under the phone specs its called 2A-Black and mine is a 64gb, 6gb ram version which has all the Europe bands.
hexxor93 said:
on my box i can see under the phone specs its called 2A-Black and mine is a 64gb, 6gb ram version which has all the Europe bands.
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I've looked through a few sold eBay posts where the box says 2a black but lacks band 20. I suspect something else on the box is the key to the extra band
Trying to find as well
Any more information on this? I did an online chat with asus. Only way he said to check is in settings, status. I even provided him with the serial number and all. I have yet to open mine because I am contemplating returning it.
No. On the official forum the mod was not helpful
I found some useful information by just reading the book - I've attached an image you might find useful.
The SKU WW which i'd assume is the version A as the other SKU/version doesnt support the bands that version A does.
Model number Asus
I'll have to look into that. I can see if them sku #'s are on the box somewhere
It's on the back of the box where it lists the specs of the handset
hexxor93 said:
It's on the back of the box where it lists the specs of the handset
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What on the box states the version? Specifically, which bit?
hexxor93 said:
It's on the back of the box where it lists the specs of the handset
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Here's a few examples
2A011ww the "WW" is the SKU i was talking about
Asus model number
Mine says 2A
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Mine says 2A039WW
The 2a is written on the one with a Chinese language on too though
Asus version
So confusing lol. I just hope there is a way to enable or other LTE bands if I have the wrong model
I rushed to buy this phone and bought it from Amazon where they said the phone shipped from Hong Kong. I am in the USA and use AT&T. Unfortunately I don't get any 5G signal, even though it's included in my service and the SIM card is 5G capable along with the IMEI being registered with AT&T. Besides 5G not working, the 4G coverage is super slow and I was thinking it was probably because the phone itself doesn't cover sufficient bands available in the USA because my last ROG Phone 2 was super fast in every way. Does anyone know how to unlock the bands for 5G or at least more 4G LTE bands please?!? I really can't stand these speeds
Your carrier would have to add them to the service. The bands you have are set by the hardware. You can't unlock them.
it is tied to your hardware. Youre screwed.. but please dont tell me you paid the premium on the phone just because its was on amazon? You could have gotten the same glorified tablet for 600-700 elsewhere
PhoneBots said:
it is tied to your hardware. Youre screwed.. but please dont tell me you paid the premium on the phone just because its was on amazon? You could have gotten the same glorified tablet for 600-700 elsewhere
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No I bought the cheaper version (not the ultimate) but with the 16GB RAM. I guess this will just be a project phone
I guess lesson learned! Just sell it then buy the global one.
seiferfury said:
I guess lesson learned! Just sell it then buy the global one.
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Who is going to buy it? Now that the proper local versions have released, the resale on a used foreign version is going to be about $200 (unless you pay shipping back to the origin country), meaning you are still around $800 short of buying the same phone.
harold741963 said:
I rushed to buy this phone and bought it from Amazon where they said the phone shipped from Hong Kong. I am in the USA and use AT&T. Unfortunately I don't get any 5G signal, even though it's included in my service and the SIM card is 5G capable along with the IMEI being registered with AT&T. Besides 5G not working, the 4G coverage is super slow and I was thinking it was probably because the phone itself doesn't cover sufficient bands available in the USA because my last ROG Phone 2 was super fast in every way. Does anyone know how to unlock the bands for 5G or at least more 4G LTE bands please?!? I really can't stand these speeds
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Yesterday I noticed I had 5g service on my 16gb 256 version. I am also with att. I was surprised to see the icon so I checked the band. It was on band 2 which was previously a lte band in my area. The speeds were the same so I dunnno if it's really 5g or not. Mine is the global one direct from Asus
bmayne81 said:
Yesterday I noticed I had 5g service on my 16gb 256 version. I am also with att. I was surprised to see the icon so I checked the band. It was on band 2 which was previously a lte band in my area. The speeds were the same so I dunnno if it's really 5g or not. Mine is the global one direct from Asus
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The global version from Asus has similar bands to the US version. The ones from Hong Kong are Tencent devices, which do not.
twistedumbrella said:
The global version from Asus has similar bands to the US version. The ones from Hong Kong are Tencent devices, which do not.
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How do we check what version it is?
harold741963 said:
How do we check what version it is?
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Check the box
It says it's an ASUS_I005DA, ZS673KS
bmayne81 said:
Yesterday I noticed I had 5g service on my 16gb 256 version. I am also with att. I was surprised to see the icon so I checked the band. It was on band 2 which was previously a lte band in my area. The speeds were the same so I dunnno if it's really 5g or not. Mine is the global one direct from Asus
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Interesting. I'm on AT&T with a 5g plan and sim, and I have yet to see the 5g icon. After spending some time with AT&T support verifying my IMEI etc, I still have had no luck and 5g is definitely active in my area. I have also purchased the phone direct from the US Asus store.
Do you mind sharing your APN settings?
BILLYB187 said:
Interesting. I'm on AT&T with a 5g plan and sim, and I have yet to see the 5g icon. After spending some time with AT&T support verifying my IMEI etc, I still have had no luck and 5g is definitely active in my area. I have also purchased the phone direct from the US Asus store.
Do you mind sharing your APN settings?
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Of course, the first image is the default APN settings and the second one is just an APN I added that I thought might've made a difference but didn't do anything
harold741963 said:
Of course, the first image is the default APN settings and the second one is just an APN I added that I thought might've made a difference but didn't do anything
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Thanks for these. I'm going to try adding the settings that you used under bearer and see if it changes anything on my phone. I won't be able to try until later but will let you know.
The samsung devices list GID under MVNO and 53FF under value but if I do that on my phone the APN vanishes.
Hopefully Bmayne responds with their setup too since I have the same device.
Billy, thanks for asking about the APN. I didn't think to look at that. Apparently it's a new APN I haven't seen before. Here it is.
harold741963 said:
It says it's an ASUS_I005DA, ZS673KS
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This is Global/Europe version. Here have this model supported bands and combinations: https://cacombos.com/device/ASUS_I005DA (A-version).
If anyone have US version of this device and rooted, would be interesting to list this model to compare Global/Europe one.
olkitu said:
This is Global/Europe version. Here have this model supported bands and combinations: https://cacombos.com/device/ASUS_I005DA (A-version).
If anyone have US version of this device and rooted, would be interesting to list this model to compare Global/Europe one.
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Thanks but what do I do with that data?
harold741963 said:
Thanks but what do I do with that data?
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To see combinations with 5G and 4G. 5G NSA require the device support anchor band (4G) and 5G together.
olkitu said:
This is Global/Europe version. Here have this model supported bands and combinations: https://cacombos.com/device/ASUS_I005DA (A-version).
If anyone have US version of this device and rooted, would be interesting to list this model to compare Global/Europe one.
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They don't appear to have data for other models of the phone.
https://store.asus.com/us/item/202105AM210000001 lists the information under "Connectivity" for the US version of the phone.
https://rog.asus.com/uk/phones/rog-phone-5-model/spec lists versions A - H under "Network Standard" for the Europe versions.
You don't need to be rooted if you know where to look.
And since who doesn't love tables and charts, here is the Europe version breakdown of what every version supports and then what is remaining.
Code:
Universal:
FR1: DL up to 2.8 Gbps / UL 542 Mbps
Gigabit LTE
DC-HSPA+: DL 42 Mbps / UL 5.76 Mbps
4x4 MIMO and CA with 4x4 MIMO support
5G (Bands N28, N41, N77, N78, N79)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 20, 26, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 41, 42, 48)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
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A version:
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1, 2FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N7, N8, N12, N20, N25, N38, N40, N66, N71)
FDD-LTE (Bands 12, 13, 17, 25, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
WCDMA (Bands 3, 6, 19)
supports 4×4 MIMO, HPUE, HO RxD
B version:
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1, 2FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N7, N8, N12, N20, N25, N38, N66, N71)
FDD-LTE (Bands 12, 13, 17, 25, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
WCDMA (Bands 3, 6, 19)
supports 4×4 MIMO, HPUE, HO RxD
C version:
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1, 2FR1)
LTE: DL 7CA Cat18 up to 1.4 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N3, N7, N8, N20, N38 roaming only)
FDD-LTE (Bands 20, 26, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
D version:
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1, 2FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N7, N8, N12, N20, N25, N38, N40, N66, N71)
FDD-LTE (Bands 12, 13, 17, 25, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
WCDMA (Bands 3, 6, 19)
supports 4×4 MIMO, HPUE, HO RxD
E version:
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1, 2FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N7, N8, N12, N20, N25, N38, N66, N71)
FDD-LTE (Bands 12, 13, 17, 25, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
WCDMA (Bands 3, 6, 19)
supports 4×4 MIMO, HPUE, HO RxD
F version:
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1, 2FR1)
LTE: DL 7CA Cat18 up to 1.4 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N3, N7, N8, N20, N38)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
G version:
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1, 2FR1)
LTE: DL 7CA Cat18 up to 1.4 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N3, N7, N8, N20, N38 roaming only)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
H version:
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1, 2FR1)
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 1.4 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N3, N7, N8, N20, N38)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
You can see your model in Settings -> About -> Regulator Information. The last letter should be version letter.
If i bought a snapdragon version of the S22 ultra from Hongkong or US, will its network bands work in middle eastern countries like Lebanon? how can i check on that?
Also I found this model of the phone SM-R908N and wonder if it could work on the network bands of Lebanon. Any thoughts on this issue I'd really appreciate it.
Oh, one more thing, will i encounter any firmware-related problems too? considering the different firmware models.
Easy to check....go to Alpha, see devices they sell, check specs
Alfa | Lebanon's first mobile network
Alfa is Lebanon’s first mobile network, managed by OTMT. Browse Personal, Business & Broadband offers as well as a wide range of devices & accessories.
www.alfa.com.lb
it uses
FDD LTE Bands: B1, 3, 7, 8, 20, 28, 32
TDD LTE Band: B38
UMTS Bands: 1, 3, 8
LTE CA UL Bands: B7+B7, B38+B38
>>>bands 7 & 38 are main there
so now go to gsmarena
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G - Full phone specifications
www.gsmarena.com
see specs
4G bands1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 32, 38, 39, 40, 41, 66 - SM-S908B
So s22 ultra should work as it supports Band7 and Band 38 as Alpha provides, if no special locks at network, your s22 ultra shoulbe fine (max download speed are unknow)
I'm looking for the best firmware to run on the model G996b for the USA. I'm not getting 5G using Verizon or T mobile. I'm getting mixed messages doing research on if changing firmware can enable network bands or not and even I got the phone, it mentioned supporting n71 for 5g and that's the band my area mostly uses. So even if that specific band isn't built into this model, what would be the best firmware to run to use in the USA?
G996b does not officially support 71.
1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41, 66, 77, 78 SA/NSA/Sub6 - SM-G996B