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Using European version in the US?

Hello,
I'm a European living in the US but also spending my time quite a bit in Europe. Therefore I want the dual sim version of the S10e.
Now I'm wondering how bad will it be using the European version in the US in terms of carrier support, reception, functions like WiFi-Calling etc?
As far as my research got me I found that the EU version is called SM-G970F and supports these LTE bands:
1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
Compared to factory unlocked US version:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 66, 71
The US carriers use these LTE bands (bold for main usage):
T-Mobile: 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71
Verizon 2, 4, 5, 13, 66
I guess that implies that for instance Verizon is not really usable at all and for T-Mobile I'd only have sort of half the network. Is this correct?
Is there anything else I need to consider before buying?
Thanks guys!

Floppy1009 said:
Hello,
I'm a European living in the US but also spending my time quite a bit in Europe. Therefore I want the dual sim version of the S10e.
Now I'm wondering how bad will it be using the European version in the US in terms of carrier support, reception, functions like WiFi-Calling etc?
As far as my research got me I found that the EU version is called SM-G970F and supports these LTE bands:
1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
Compared to factory unlocked US version:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 66, 71
The US carriers use these LTE bands (bold for main usage):
T-Mobile: 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71
Verizon 2, 4, 5, 13, 66
I guess that implies that for instance Verizon is not really usable at all and for T-Mobile I'd only have sort of half the network. Is this correct?
Is there anything else I need to consider before buying?
Thanks guys!
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I'm using international version in the US for two weeks now, with Ultramobile (T-Mobile MVNO). I live in NY/NJ area and didn't experience any problems with reception, call quality on network speeds. WiFi Calling works great. On one hand I noticed that S10e shows less 'signal strength bars' than my previous phone (ZUK Z2), but on the other with Samsung I get some reception in placed where Z2 could not connect.
The only problem I've had are delayed notifications when screen is off (or even when app runs in the background). I didn't get notification when someone was calling me on WhatsApp, Signal or Messenger Lite. Only after couple minutes a missed call notification appeared. Turned off battery optimization and memory usage checking for those apps, but that didn't help. Searched the internet and many people have the same problem with Android in general (e.g. my wife experiences same issue with her Nokia 7). One thing that solves the issue is having a permanent VPN connection. I have NordVPN subscription and after turning it on all notifications appear immediately.

Floppy1009 said:
Hello,
I'm a European living in the US but also spending my time quite a bit in Europe. Therefore I want the dual sim version of the S10e.
Now I'm wondering how bad will it be using the European version in the US in terms of carrier support, reception, functions like WiFi-Calling etc?
As far as my research got me I found that the EU version is called SM-G970F and supports these LTE bands:
1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
Compared to factory unlocked US version:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 66, 71
The US carriers use these LTE bands (bold for main usage):
T-Mobile: 2, 4, 5, 12, 66, 71
Verizon 2, 4, 5, 13, 66
I guess that implies that for instance Verizon is not really usable at all and for T-Mobile I'd only have sort of half the network. Is this correct?
Is there anything else I need to consider before buying?
Thanks guys!
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I have the SM-G970F with North American CSC but it is TPA (Panama).
I use tmobile and I get LTE+, wifi calling works, Volte (video calling works, HD calling works.
Only thing unfortunately that doesn't work is the "Caller ID and Spam Protection" in call settings. Anyone have a CSC they use that Caller ID and Spam Protection feature works?

Question Which version (A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H) does ASUS ROG 5 model "i005DA" map to ?

I had asked this on another forum, but did not get a straight forward answer. But I feel this is an important thing to know, so bringing this up again:
I just received the phone. It looks like this is the Tencent version. and the model number is 'i005DA'
If that is true, then according to the ASUS website, The following bands should be accessible:
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N7, N8, N12, N20, N25, N28, N38, N40, N41, N66, N71, N77, N78, N79)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 48)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 19)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
But the seller says bands n71 (5G) and 12, 71 (4G) are NOT available in this model. I also verified that Tmobile has really poor reception because of lack of bands.
How do I know which VERSION (a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h) does the 'i005DA' model corresponds to ? Can Someone point me to some ASUS website or verifiable source that maps the model to the version number ?

I believe the answer you got was "G"
Re: Which version does ASUS ROG 5 model "i005DA" map to ?
Version G = ASUS_I005DA = China / Tencent Games
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Question Unlock frequency bands

I rushed to buy this phone and bought it from Amazon where they said the phone shipped from Hong Kong. I am in the USA and use AT&T. Unfortunately I don't get any 5G signal, even though it's included in my service and the SIM card is 5G capable along with the IMEI being registered with AT&T. Besides 5G not working, the 4G coverage is super slow and I was thinking it was probably because the phone itself doesn't cover sufficient bands available in the USA because my last ROG Phone 2 was super fast in every way. Does anyone know how to unlock the bands for 5G or at least more 4G LTE bands please?!? I really can't stand these speeds

Your carrier would have to add them to the service. The bands you have are set by the hardware. You can't unlock them.

it is tied to your hardware. Youre screwed.. but please dont tell me you paid the premium on the phone just because its was on amazon? You could have gotten the same glorified tablet for 600-700 elsewhere

PhoneBots said:
it is tied to your hardware. Youre screwed.. but please dont tell me you paid the premium on the phone just because its was on amazon? You could have gotten the same glorified tablet for 600-700 elsewhere
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No I bought the cheaper version (not the ultimate) but with the 16GB RAM. I guess this will just be a project phone

I guess lesson learned! Just sell it then buy the global one.

seiferfury said:
I guess lesson learned! Just sell it then buy the global one.
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Who is going to buy it? Now that the proper local versions have released, the resale on a used foreign version is going to be about $200 (unless you pay shipping back to the origin country), meaning you are still around $800 short of buying the same phone.

harold741963 said:
I rushed to buy this phone and bought it from Amazon where they said the phone shipped from Hong Kong. I am in the USA and use AT&T. Unfortunately I don't get any 5G signal, even though it's included in my service and the SIM card is 5G capable along with the IMEI being registered with AT&T. Besides 5G not working, the 4G coverage is super slow and I was thinking it was probably because the phone itself doesn't cover sufficient bands available in the USA because my last ROG Phone 2 was super fast in every way. Does anyone know how to unlock the bands for 5G or at least more 4G LTE bands please?!? I really can't stand these speeds
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Yesterday I noticed I had 5g service on my 16gb 256 version. I am also with att. I was surprised to see the icon so I checked the band. It was on band 2 which was previously a lte band in my area. The speeds were the same so I dunnno if it's really 5g or not. Mine is the global one direct from Asus

bmayne81 said:
Yesterday I noticed I had 5g service on my 16gb 256 version. I am also with att. I was surprised to see the icon so I checked the band. It was on band 2 which was previously a lte band in my area. The speeds were the same so I dunnno if it's really 5g or not. Mine is the global one direct from Asus
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The global version from Asus has similar bands to the US version. The ones from Hong Kong are Tencent devices, which do not.

twistedumbrella said:
The global version from Asus has similar bands to the US version. The ones from Hong Kong are Tencent devices, which do not.
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How do we check what version it is?

harold741963 said:
How do we check what version it is?
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Check the box

It says it's an ASUS_I005DA, ZS673KS

bmayne81 said:
Yesterday I noticed I had 5g service on my 16gb 256 version. I am also with att. I was surprised to see the icon so I checked the band. It was on band 2 which was previously a lte band in my area. The speeds were the same so I dunnno if it's really 5g or not. Mine is the global one direct from Asus
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Interesting. I'm on AT&T with a 5g plan and sim, and I have yet to see the 5g icon. After spending some time with AT&T support verifying my IMEI etc, I still have had no luck and 5g is definitely active in my area. I have also purchased the phone direct from the US Asus store.
Do you mind sharing your APN settings?

BILLYB187 said:
Interesting. I'm on AT&T with a 5g plan and sim, and I have yet to see the 5g icon. After spending some time with AT&T support verifying my IMEI etc, I still have had no luck and 5g is definitely active in my area. I have also purchased the phone direct from the US Asus store.
Do you mind sharing your APN settings?
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Of course, the first image is the default APN settings and the second one is just an APN I added that I thought might've made a difference but didn't do anything

harold741963 said:
Of course, the first image is the default APN settings and the second one is just an APN I added that I thought might've made a difference but didn't do anything
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Thanks for these. I'm going to try adding the settings that you used under bearer and see if it changes anything on my phone. I won't be able to try until later but will let you know.
The samsung devices list GID under MVNO and 53FF under value but if I do that on my phone the APN vanishes.
Hopefully Bmayne responds with their setup too since I have the same device.

Billy, thanks for asking about the APN. I didn't think to look at that. Apparently it's a new APN I haven't seen before. Here it is.

harold741963 said:
It says it's an ASUS_I005DA, ZS673KS
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This is Global/Europe version. Here have this model supported bands and combinations: https://cacombos.com/device/ASUS_I005DA (A-version).
If anyone have US version of this device and rooted, would be interesting to list this model to compare Global/Europe one.

olkitu said:
This is Global/Europe version. Here have this model supported bands and combinations: https://cacombos.com/device/ASUS_I005DA (A-version).
If anyone have US version of this device and rooted, would be interesting to list this model to compare Global/Europe one.
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Thanks but what do I do with that data?

harold741963 said:
Thanks but what do I do with that data?
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To see combinations with 5G and 4G. 5G NSA require the device support anchor band (4G) and 5G together.

olkitu said:
This is Global/Europe version. Here have this model supported bands and combinations: https://cacombos.com/device/ASUS_I005DA (A-version).
If anyone have US version of this device and rooted, would be interesting to list this model to compare Global/Europe one.
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They don't appear to have data for other models of the phone.
https://store.asus.com/us/item/202105AM210000001 lists the information under "Connectivity" for the US version of the phone.
https://rog.asus.com/uk/phones/rog-phone-5-model/spec lists versions A - H under "Network Standard" for the Europe versions.
You don't need to be rooted if you know where to look.
And since who doesn't love tables and charts, here is the Europe version breakdown of what every version supports and then what is remaining.
Code:
Universal:
FR1: DL up to 2.8 Gbps / UL 542 Mbps
Gigabit LTE
DC-HSPA+: DL 42 Mbps / UL 5.76 Mbps
4x4 MIMO and CA with 4x4 MIMO support
5G (Bands N28, N41, N77, N78, N79)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 18, 19, 20, 26, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 41, 42, 48)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Code:
A version:
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1, 2FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N7, N8, N12, N20, N25, N38, N40, N66, N71)
FDD-LTE (Bands 12, 13, 17, 25, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
WCDMA (Bands 3, 6, 19)
supports 4×4 MIMO, HPUE, HO RxD
B version:
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1, 2FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N7, N8, N12, N20, N25, N38, N66, N71)
FDD-LTE (Bands 12, 13, 17, 25, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
WCDMA (Bands 3, 6, 19)
supports 4×4 MIMO, HPUE, HO RxD
C version:
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1, 2FR1)
LTE: DL 7CA Cat18 up to 1.4 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N3, N7, N8, N20, N38 roaming only)
FDD-LTE (Bands 20, 26, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
D version:
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1, 2FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N7, N8, N12, N20, N25, N38, N40, N66, N71)
FDD-LTE (Bands 12, 13, 17, 25, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
WCDMA (Bands 3, 6, 19)
supports 4×4 MIMO, HPUE, HO RxD
E version:
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1, 2FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N7, N8, N12, N20, N25, N38, N66, N71)
FDD-LTE (Bands 12, 13, 17, 25, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
WCDMA (Bands 3, 6, 19)
supports 4×4 MIMO, HPUE, HO RxD
F version:
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1, 2FR1)
LTE: DL 7CA Cat18 up to 1.4 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N3, N7, N8, N20, N38)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
G version:
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1, 2FR1)
LTE: DL 7CA Cat18 up to 1.4 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N3, N7, N8, N20, N38 roaming only)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)
H version:
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1, 2FR1)
LTE: DL 7CA Cat20 up to 1.4 Gbps / UL 2CA Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
5G (Bands N1, N3, N7, N8, N20, N38)
TD-LTE (Bands 40)

You can see your model in Settings -> About -> Regulator Information. The last letter should be version letter.

Question How can I enable n78 band 5G on my US variant device?

I just got an SM-G996U1 US variant snapdragon 888, however, it does not natively support n78 band 5G that is used in my country, is there anything I can do to enable it?
I have tried the revice menu but it is to no avail.
csc is XAA.
Thank you for lending your time.

Thelese said:
I just got an SM-G996U1 US variant snapdragon 888, however, it does not natively support n78 band 5G that is used in my country, is there anything I can do to enable it?
I have tried the revice menu but it is to no avail.
csc is XAA.
Thank you for lending your time.
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Hi mate
I am afraid not , that band is available only on the exynos models and to the
SM-G9960
SM-G9968Snapdragon 888China
Hong Kong
Japan2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G WCDMA: B1(2100), B2(1900), B5(850), B8(900)
4G LTE: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 66
5G: Bands n1, n5, n41, n78, n79
But i doubt you can flash a G9960/8 firmware into a US variant
Which country are you from Australia?

MAX 404 said:
Hi mate
I am afraid not , that band is available only on the exynos models and to the
SM-G9960
SM-G9968Snapdragon 888China
Hong Kong
Japan2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G WCDMA: B1(2100), B2(1900), B5(850), B8(900)
4G LTE: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 66
5G: Bands n1, n5, n41, n78, n79
But i doubt you can flash a G9960/8 firmware into a US variant
Which country are you from Australia?
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I somehow made it work by playing around on the service menu.

Thelese said:
I somehow made it work by playing around on the service menu.
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Great
You should explain how you did it , so other can benefit from your finds

Probably really not enabled.

Thelese said:
I somehow made it work by playing around on the service menu.
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n78 frequency activation successful on g996u1?
Is that possible?

MAX 404 said:
Hi mate
I am afraid not , that band is available only on the exynos models and to the
SM-G9960
SM-G9968Snapdragon 888China
Hong Kong
Japan2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G WCDMA: B1(2100), B2(1900), B5(850), B8(900)
4G LTE: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 66
5G: Bands n1, n5, n41, n78, n79
But i doubt you can flash a G9960/8 firmware into a US variant
Which country are you from Australia?
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I somehow made it work by playing around on the service menu..
whitemilk_kor said:
n78 frequency activation successful on g996u1?
Is that possible?
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I am still doing some research on why 5G is showing up.

Limeybastard said:
Probably really not enabled.
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I tested the speeds with a local device that supports n78 band and it is at par. I am also baffled with what is happening.

Thelese said:
I somehow made it work by playing around on the service menu..
I am still doing some research on why 5G is showing up.
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Can you reveal your valuable solution here?
I also need n78 frequency unlock

Please tell us how you did it

Probably he has done it on Android 11 where the service menu was accessable
Now, there is no valid solution yet to activate or access to service menu on Android 12

Same issue I also need a solution. Android 12 unfortunately

Question Network Bands

If i bought a snapdragon version of the S22 ultra from Hongkong or US, will its network bands work in middle eastern countries like Lebanon? how can i check on that?
Also I found this model of the phone SM-R908N and wonder if it could work on the network bands of Lebanon. Any thoughts on this issue I'd really appreciate it.
Oh, one more thing, will i encounter any firmware-related problems too? considering the different firmware models.

Easy to check....go to Alpha, see devices they sell, check specs
Alfa | Lebanon's first mobile network
Alfa is Lebanon’s first mobile network, managed by OTMT. Browse Personal, Business & Broadband offers as well as a wide range of devices & accessories.
www.alfa.com.lb
it uses
FDD LTE Bands: B1, 3, 7, 8, 20, 28, 32
TDD LTE Band: B38
UMTS Bands: 1, 3, 8
LTE CA UL Bands: B7+B7, B38+B38
>>>bands 7 & 38 are main there
so now go to gsmarena
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G - Full phone specifications
www.gsmarena.com
see specs
4G bands1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 32, 38, 39, 40, 41, 66 - SM-S908B
So s22 ultra should work as it supports Band7 and Band 38 as Alpha provides, if no special locks at network, your s22 ultra shoulbe fine (max download speed are unknow)