Android mirroring to 2 android devices - General Questions and Answers

Hi there folks.
I'm trying to set up some multimedia entertainment for the kids while we travel.
I ended up with final option to get 2 android tablets and each kid can entertain itself, also when we wanna watch something together i need to cast / stream from phone to those 2 tablets.
I found some apps for this, but there are 2 issues.
1. Can't cast to 2 devices simultaneously.
2. Apps do not cast audio. Must be streaming may be?
Also there is a bit delay between main device and receiving one, no matter if cast on wifi or hotspot, so because of the delay, i can't put main audio on car speakers because it does not match the video on receiving devices. If i manage to cast with audio, they can use headphones, which for sure will have, to not distract me while driving when i do not wanna listen all the "entertainment".
So if you have any other suggestions please share with me! Thanks!

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something like Airfoil for android??

Hi
need some help to find a app that will let me stream music from my X10 to other devices that are connected just like Airfoil.
If i play music or a movie on my x10 and send/hijack this to a tv or stereo using the wifi, airport or mha DNLA. Is there a app for this??
Please help me out.
I use Bluetooth to stream MP3 and Youtube (sound only) to my stereo.
Is this what you are after?
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I use Bluetooth to stream MP3 and Youtube (sound only) to my stereo.
Is this what you are after?
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Yes something like that but i will be able to use the wifi or airport, dnla. so i can stream spotify, grooveshark or video from my x10 and se it on, TV or play music in my stereo.
How does bluetooth and stream work, do you use a app??
Have you had a look at iMediashare in the market? I use it to stream from my Dinc to my WDTV LIVE. Only done music and images, so can't speak as to whether it does video effectively or not.
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Digging up this old thread. Did you find a solution for it?
iMediashare is limited by content it can read. ie. cant play Spotify or Google Music wich would be my main purpose of this.
Anyone know of an app that would work?
Help
I have the same problem.
Need a app for getting my spotify (on galaxy s2) to my Apple TV 2gen.
That would be epic!
most def Would be awsome to stream Napster from android to wifi speaker device., airport or whatever
try twonky mobile
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try twonky mobile
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As far a i can see, this has the same limitations as iMediashare that i mentioned earlier. It cant play from Spotify/Google Music.
Does anyone know if this is even possible on Android? I am considering trying to develop an app to do this myself as i really miss this possibility both on my tablet and phone.
I second that request
I also really need this feature, What airfoils does for windows, i need on my 3.2 tablet and 4.0 phone.
the ability to grab sound from any program running, and sent it to any DLNA compatibly unit on the network. Airport express, windows media player and so on.
Like Mixy says, all the programs that i have found a limited to share the content that they can play.
A Android Airfoil remote, would do the trick in my case. So that my windows server, running XBMC was the source of the sound, if i only could remote turn on Airfoil speakers from my phone.
I would recommend all interested to send a mail to Rogue Amoeba (dev of Airfoil), saying you are interested in this app. I've done so, but showing increased interest would be good.
I'm interested too ! Looking for something like the sonos solution but using a wifi network connected device and operating through something like airfoil for android. Any reply from Rogue Amoeba ?
I just sent Rogue Amoeba a message, will let everyone know there response.
This is what i got the last time i mailed them:
Hi Fredrick, As far as sending audio FROM Android out, it's unlikely we'll be doing that (though we'll see). We do hope to introduce an Airfoil Speakers (the receiving end) client for Android - we'll see what happens in the future.
-Paul
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I should also add that I am playing with the idea of making something like this myself. I dug around in the Android SDK and could not find anything to get audio-stream from other apps. This is due to security of apps and their content. Spotify does not want their stream to be able to be recorded etc.
I'm no dev, so my research is slow, but from what i can tell this app would require root, and possibly also injection of code into the ALSA library used by Android.
I also received a response:
Thanks for getting in touch with us. Currently, our mobile development plans are only to improve upon Airfoil Speakers Touch for iOS devices. However, we're evaluating interest in extending Airfoil Speakers to other platforms, so this sort of feedback definitely helps. So, stay tuned for updates from us and do let us know if you've got any other questions or issues.
Mixy your finding makes sens. Maybe find a equalizers program, they also must grab the sound from playing apps, right ?
But then a again, what i really need is the ability to toggle playing sound unit.
I wrote this trough Rogue Amoeba support page.
http://getsatisfaction.com/rogueamoeba/topics/airfoil_for_android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849097
I like to toggle speakers playing on a windows airfoil from my android.
and second i like a airfoil grabber for android, so that all sound are transmitted.
So the windows server can see that transmit and you can from your android unit, control the windows server and on that server's airfoil speakers press receive from android unit.
Completing android in the Airplay/DLNA wonder world
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What about emulating a Bluetooth speaker ?
Still protected by SDK limits ?
All sounds are passed through to the speaker, can it be grabbed here and sent to a dnla unit ?
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This is the answer from Rogue Amoeba, disappointing answer. So i guess its time to look for another program, that does what airfoil does but + android support.
Hi there,
At this time, we have no plans for Android versions of any of our software, but we'll see what happens.
-Paul
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Paul Kafasis
Rogue Amoeba Software, LLC
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Hi guys, I'm very interested too with an app that allows you to send Spotify to an Airplay receiver ... I heard about a plugin for Doubletwist that allows you to stream what you're listenning with this player to Airplay ... So maybe you could check for this to allow streaming every audio programs that are played ? I'm not a dev so ...
Good luck if you try to make an app by yourself, I really hope it'll be working and I would be the first owner !
Its true that you can play mp3 files to an airplay reciever, but that is because the program "owns" the music.
In the case of Spotify, the Spotify app owns the music, and thus it would have to hijack the audio-stream

Stream all audio overairplay?

Looking for an app that will stream all system audio over airplay (example would be airport express).
An example of why this would be really great would be for Apps like Rdio and Spotify. By having an application agnostic way to stream it would work for numerous apps. I know there are players out in the market that do play to airplay speakers, however the audio has to come from them (IE would not work streaming based applications).
Anyone have any thoughts or know of any apps that could do this?
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I would think not. I honestly don't know what's so good about airplay. I have bluetooth and my ipod touch can play music to that with no problem!
Anyway, you probably could find a way to do it however, since it isn't cooked into the OS, you probably don't have a hope.
Oh, and Air Play doesn't work with every ipod touch app either, unless you know a very special trick (and perhapse a jailbreak).
I am sorry about this.
Try Doubletwist.
What i like about airplay is the integration into my home theater system. My home theater has numerous available sources and 3x sets of speakers for different sections of the house. This allows me to play what i want where i want it.
If I could get some sort of bluetooth device that has a range of 150 feet (as i can be on the deck or anywhere in the house) then that works. Any suggestions?
I thinks its a very low likelihood that anything exists now.
The base parts are there: the bluetooth audio redirects system audio, and other apps stream to airplay. So its a matter of combining them.
aibo: I was under the impression that doubletwist will play to airplay only if the audio plays through it. IE music local to the device. If doubletwist would allolw music played from the rdio or spotify app that would be what i want.
also very interested in this. looking for an app that can play ALL phone audio over airplay.
yes, bluetooth is great, but has the distinct disadvantage of shorter range than wifi (used by airplay).
anyone know of anything?
DLNA
Your stereo probably has DLNA support, so you could try finding an app for that. DLNA is almost identical to AirPlay. I don't know why Apple made their own system instead of just implementing DLNA.
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Your stereo probably has DLNA support, so you could try finding an app for that. DLNA is almost identical to AirPlay. I don't know why Apple made their own system instead of just implementing DLNA.
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DLNA poses the same problem. There is no method of pushing *all* sound through DLNA only sound from the DLNA enabled apps. I too would love *some* systemwide method of streaming other than bluetooth, but I have yet to find one. One that does audio and video would be perfect. The HDMI cable works great, but I have broken 1 cable and 1 adapter because the point where the mini HDMI goes into the wire/adapter is the weak point in the event of cable flex.
As to the question of why Apple made a new system it is pretty simple. Apple gets a royalty from every iDock device sold as it is their patent, the same holds true for airplay, they get a royalty for every airplay device sold. They feel they have the market share to force users to purchase these devices. And let's face it, for whatever reason the Android manufacturers missed the boat on this one. If Android had established a standard A/V port on every device we too would have a mutitude of docks to connect our devices to, but it never happened. That is the one and only thing I wish we had from the Apple world.
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DLNA poses the same problem. There is no method of pushing *all* sound through DLNA only sound from the DLNA enabled apps. I too would love *some* systemwide method of streaming other than bluetooth, but I have yet to find one. One that does audio and video would be perfect. The HDMI cable works great, but I have broken 1 cable and 1 adapter because the point where the mini HDMI goes into the wire/adapter is the weak point in the event of cable flex.
As to the question of why Apple made a new system it is pretty simple. Apple gets a royalty from every iDock device sold as it is their patent, the same holds true for airplay, they get a royalty for every airplay device sold. They feel they have the market share to force users to purchase these devices. And let's face it, for whatever reason the Android manufacturers missed the boat on this one. If Android had established a standard A/V port on every device we too would have a mutitude of docks to connect our devices to, but it never happened. That is the one and only thing I wish we had from the Apple world.
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I totally agree. Wouldn't it be nice if we could stream all our audio to wireless (airplay) docks....
Says an owner of a BW Zeppelin Air
MP3's is no problem at all, but Radio, Podcasts or games would even be better

Develop an Air Play app for Android (Stream any audio to any reciever)

For those of you not familiar with Rogue Amoeba they are the developers of a very popular iOS/OS X and now Windows application called Airfoil that is capable of streaming any audio source to any Airplay capable device or any device with their "Airspeaker" app installed on it.
As you can imagine they have had great success with this app. Unfortunately they have no plans to develop a version for android. This was made clear in a post in February located here:
rogueamoeba.com/utm/2012/02/18/sending-any-audio-to-android-devices-via-airplay-with-airfoil/
I also contacted Paul Kafasis (CEO of RA) and his response was the same explaining further that Android actively prevents access to it's audio making it nearly impossible to develop an app for android. I've included our conversation below as well.
ME:
I would like to officially submit my request to have the Airfoil app developed for Android.
With over 300,000,0000 android devices sold worldwide as of February 2012 (over 10 times the amount of iOS devices despite a 16 month head start) and another 850,0000 activated every day the potential here is absolutely enormous.
Please seriously reconsider your decision to not develop for android at this time.
PAUL:
Hi Drew,
It's an interesting idea, but at this time, I'm afraid we have no plans for Airfoil for Android. While Android allows for more access than iOS, it's still nearly impossible to grab another application's audio to send it out. As such, Airfoil for Android is a difficult proposition at best.
Perhaps more likely is an Airfoil Speakers client for Android, enabling you to *receive* audio on Android. We don't have any announced plans for that either, but it's likely what you'd see first, before an Airfoil for Android.
Anyhow, we'll keep our eye on the platform, and see what happens!
ME:
Paul,
Thanks for the quick response. I am not a programmer so I won't pretend to know the complexities involved with grabbing the audio output of the device and redirecting it but I wouldn't think it would be extremely difficult to redirect all audio on the device no different than when you plug in a set of headphones or send your audio over Bluetooth. This is what I believe to be the primary feature of your software. Being able to set each app individually to use airplay as a receiver would be nice but certainly not necessary for initial releases. I would hate to see someone beat you to it since you've done such a great job on your iOS, OS X and Windows applications.
PAUL:
Drew,
You wouldn't think so, no, but it is. Android simply does not make this functionality possible, and actively prevents it.
Anyway,
Where I'm getting with all this is that a lot of people would like to see an app with this capability developed for android. Especially now that a large number of devices (receivers, speakers, etc.) in recent years have started to come with airplay compatibility out of the box. People have been requesting this from Airfoil for over 2 years with no response. I was hoping to get the following answered from someone with an intimate knowledge of the capabilities of android:
1. Is it possible to develop an app that is capable of routing all audio on an android device to an Airplay device?
2. If not possible on a locked device, is it possible on a unlocked/rooted device?
3. Is this something anyone on here would be capable or interested in developing?
Thanks for all the help.
Anyone have any opinion or feedback on this? Is it possible is it not?
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Anyone have any opinion or feedback on this? Is it possible is it not?
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I would LOVE to see an app like that! My whole house is wired for airplay with 6 zones and speakers in all ceilings. Iphones can play music in any room. Only app for Android is Honey Player and that is terribly buggy
It would be awesome if it was just possible to send ALL audio like bluetooth A2DP !!!
I just wanted to add my desire for such an app as well. I have airfoil all set up so I can stream from my laptop to my HTPC but it would be awesome if I could do it from my Android phone and tablet.
There must be a developer on here that could do such a thing and I for one would be willing to donate.
The last thing i want is to propagate the Apple jail cell.. they are the only kid on the block that does not want to play with others... and yes, i own an iPad.
I USED to want to get airplay running in my house but i realised that my Samsung Galaxy Note, Blackberry BB9930, Dell PC, HP desktop, HP laptop, Gateway Netbook and Sony TV ALL support DLNA and so i have stopped caring about my iPad and its audio...
A DLNA app for Ios and an itunes plug-in would be the way to get universality here
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The last thing i want is to propagate the Apple jail cell.. they are the only kid on the block that does not want to play with others... and yes, i own an iPad.
I USED to want to get airplay running in my house but i realised that my Samsung Galaxy Note, Blackberry BB9930, Dell PC, HP desktop, HP laptop, Gateway Netbook and Sony TV ALL support DLNA and so i have stopped caring about my iPad and its audio...
A DLNA app for Ios and an itunes plug-in would be the way to get universality here
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DLNA is fine for streaming media files from one device to another but it is not capable of streaming media from a streaming service. I.e. streaming Google music or Tune In via airplay to your home stereo. Really the only solution to date is airplay or bluetooth and bluetooth just doesn't have the range. AM I missing some other solution?
iMediaShare has Airplay capabilities, I use it to stream to my AppleTV(s).
iMediaShare is not compatible with Airport Express at the moment...I tool would be willing to pay for an "Airfoil for android" type application the key being that it can send ANY audio source to the Airport Express.
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I am still looking for this! My apple days are over, but I still own 3 Airport Express devices and 1 appleTV.
JB has ability to do USB audio. Are we getting any closer to "airfoil-like" app for android. I too have 4 zones set up in whole house audio, and hate my first gen ipad these days. Whoever makes this app will make some serious money on the market.
Any news regarding this...?
Seriously... this would be a gold mine for the developer. There are so many Airplay speakers out there that would make playing music to your speakers so much easier.
Isn't it possible to root your device and send all sound output directly to an airplay device?
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L
Airplay for Android? I think i'll try that!
i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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It may be a bit late now that miracast has been established and is starting to go into devices. It pretty much does the same thing as airplay except a little better. However it's still brand new so there aren't many devices that support it yet.
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i'll attempt this. If i start now, i think i can have a beta version out by february. I'll keep updated for links and progress.
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I'd be interested in this as well. My GF has a airport express that I would love to stream to from my tablet/phone.
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It may be a bit late now that miracast has been established and is starting to go into devices. It pretty much does the same thing as airplay except a little better. However it's still brand new so there aren't many devices that support it yet.
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While I agree that Miracast duplicates some of the features of AirPlay, that doesn't change the fact that many people already have AirPlay devices (eg AirPort Express) and don't want to buy new hardware if/when it's available.
I would love a "Airfoil for Android"-type app.
However, as a workaround, does this sound like something feasible?
1. Connect Android device to PC via Bluetooth.
2. Setup PC as a Bluetooth speaker for the Android device. (Is this possible?)
3. Use Airfoil to route audio: Android > Bluetooth > PC > Airfoil > AirPort Express (I've never used Airfoil, so I don't know if this is possible.)
Just wanted to add my support for something like this. I would gladly pay money for this app. I have a Galaxy S2 skyrocket and a Nexus 7. I would love to be able to use my nexus 7 as an audio receiver and stream music from my phone (Play Music / Pandora / Songza / etc) to it. I realize I could set up these apps on the n7 itself and play directly that way, but the key is having the ability to control the music from my phone. Additionally, my friends who have Android phones and the app should be able to do the same with relative ease.
Currently I have AirFoil on my laptop and Android HiFi installed on my n7 and stream music that way. That is less than ideal. I don't understand why this is so difficult? But then again, I'm not a programmer.
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While I agree that Miracast duplicates some of the features of AirPlay, that doesn't change the fact that many people already have AirPlay devices (eg AirPort Express) and don't want to buy new hardware if/when it's available.
I would love a "Airfoil for Android"-type app.
However, as a workaround, does this sound like something feasible?
1. Connect Android device to PC via Bluetooth.
2. Setup PC as a Bluetooth speaker for the Android device. (Is this possible?)
3. Use Airfoil to route audio: Android > Bluetooth > PC > Airfoil > AirPort Express (I've never used Airfoil, so I don't know if this is possible.)
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I guess that works. I feel like it's kind of overkill and it sucks that you'd have to daisy-chain using both bluetooth and a laptop/desktop. But in the absence of anything else, we have to make due, right?
Airfoil can't intercept audio from the bluetooth stack server, I've tried.
I am also interested in such app
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I am also interested in such app
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We all are. It is shocking nothing has come of this.
It is indeed shocking. I'm guessing there's not a lot of work being done because it is too difficult (though I don't quite understand why that is). I am hoping Google blesses us with miracast in the next release.

Turn tablet into dedicated spotify player

Hi All.
I've an old Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 (10.1) kicking around.
I'm wanting to give this device a new purpose: Become the office music controller. (yes I know it's a BIG device)
I have a premium spotify account, and I'm looking to run this from the device to the bluetooth speakers in the office. I understand i could just use the app. This being said, I want to remove all other apps and functionality other than to trawl spotify and stream the music to the speakers.
I've thought of XBMC, but i'm unsure how this would work for this purpose. I don't have the physical storage.
Any help here in how to progress or any input would be greatly appreciated.
Maybe Spotify Connect with the screen always on ?

Is there an Android Tablet/ROM/App strictly for Controlling/Cast Music?

Hey all,
I have an old (80's-style) full-length cabinet that sits on the floor. It's got a 8-track, FM/AM, and record player built-in, but the radio sucks and the record player is broken. I want to gut the whole thing, install some more modern speakers, install a new record player, and control it all from a tablet or touch screen computer. The big thing I'm looking for is a bit of "future-proofing" so that it can control both the built-in speakers and cast to other devices across the house or even the back patio. We have guests over pretty often, whether to cook out or just hang out in the house. I'd like to be able to pop open the lid of the cabinet and let anybody add/change the music playing, or be able to play the record player throughout the speakers in my house (my wife enjoys the records, while I prefer the convenience of Google Play Music).
I think the best way to do this is through Android, since it's much easier to cast to devices, and I can still change the music playing throughout the house via phones, tablet, and gHomes if I want.
Does anyone have a recommendation for building this solution? I think the most effective way to do this will be to set up the speakers in the cabinet and just plug them directly into a Chromecast Audio. I'll need either a ROM or a home launcher that's more conducive to selecting and limiting itself to a select few music apps & YouTube.
The big hurdles I see are setting up "zones" so that I can pick which Chromecasts the system plays to depending on where in the house we're going to be. I also need a way to feed the external audio (the record player) to the Tablet so it can forward that sound to other Chromecasts. I've looked for how to do this a bit, and it looks like Mozilla figured out a way to do it using a Raspberry Pi. I'm not opposed to this, but I want to be sure that I can use the tablet/computer I build into the cabinet to select which Chromecasts this streams to.
Thanks for the help / recommendations! If I get all of this figured out, I'll be sure to share the end result so people can see how well it all worked out!

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