I'm considering the M5 8.4 to replace my aging Nexus 7 (2013) and would like some feedback on the EMUI software experience.
Do you like the skin? Is it similar to stock Android?
Since there probably won't be many ROM options, how is Huawei's track record with updates?
Thanks,
Rick
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There should be lots of ROM options shortly if not right away, since the device is Treble compatible as are other EMUI 8.0 devices.
For whatever it's worth:
I am running EMUI - but debloated with Nova installed (I couldn't imagine Android without Nova). I'm also not 100% sure what features are EMUI vs stock Oreo.
There's a "Launch" feature built in to EMUI that allows you to specify which apps are allowed to launch in the background, allowed to be launched by a secondary app, and allowed to run in the background. I like this feature, but if you don't bother setting preferences for each app, EMUI kills background apps somewhat aggressively.
EMUI lets you choose between a collapsible navbar (if rooted you can use Exposed Edge Pro instead), and/or a one-button navigation system using the fingerprint sensor - tap for 'back,' hold for 'home,' swipe for 'recents.' I am using the one-button system in conjunction with Edge Pro and to me it's pretty seamless (but I still have to work on not hitting the sensor by accident).
The dialer and SMS skins are fine. Stock DPI options are a bit high, but you can change via developer options (after every reboot). Stock camera app no longer works if you change the DPI, but you can always use opencamera (or change the DPI back).
The other day I had an issue with background music playback about 45 minutes into streaming music via an old version of eDJing premium. Issues stopped after I disabled Doze (via root app that I had set to run at boot). That's probably an Android issue?
Battery life for me is in line with what I have experienced with every similar phablet I have previously owned.
Anyways, all EMUI 8.0 devices share key things in common, so the dev community is larger than it seems.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I also use Nova and will probably remove some of the reduny apps. I can see myself rooting and using Magisk.
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In my opinion the emui is not bad.
The personalization of Android that Huawei made is pretty clean.
However they obviusly add some bugs:
- adaptive icons do not works correctly: you can have only the circular one (even with Nova)
- the resolution of the display or the information that the apps get are really strange: some app starts always in landscape, no matter the actual orientation, other render the pages in strange ways when the tablet in turned fron landscape to portait, etc... Really really annoying
- battery optimization is too agressive and it is not (for me) completely clear how to tune it
- every time the launcher is updated, it switch back to its stock launcher, and i have to set the nova again as default (this can be done just in the default app in the settings). Probably this will happen also for other apps.
The hardware is solid and the battery life is good.
The position of the touch sensor and of the hardware buttons are not imho right and a big design failure.
If you keep the tablet in portrait with the touch button in the buttom: the hardware buttons are almost inaccessible unless you have a prehensile bellybutton ?
In landscape if you try to change the volume with the hardware button your finger will touch the touch button and the current app is "closed" (the tablet swith back to the home screen). This is a software feature (bug?) that i will like to change
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Also the Mediapad is now listed as enterprise device. I'd be surprised if they'd stop with updates soon.
As for EMUI:
It's a mixed bag for me. There are 3 annoying bugs which most likely have their origin in EMUI:
- 2 fingers at the same time without instantly moving makes the tablet not recognize the input anymore. (there is a thread on xda about it)
The other 2 are about the keyboard accessory which is probably irrelevant for you (for everybody else):
- flipping the cover from front to back triggers a "refresh", black screen on netflix or a return from edit mode to view mode in xodo pdf
- EMUI always asks if I want to start desktop mode when a keyboard is connected, doesn't matter if you tick the "don't remind me again" checkbox
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- adaptive icons do not works correctly: you can have only the circular one (even with Nova)
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Squircle works for me. I think all work. I'm not sure they work how they should. Not that I care.
- the resolution of the display or the information that the apps get are really strange: some app starts always in landscape, no matter the actual orientation, other render the pages in strange ways when the tablet in turned fron landscape to portait, etc... Really really annoying
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This usually has to do with the apps, not EMUI. Install Rotation Control to force auto rotation across all apps.
battery optimization is too agressive and it is not (for me) completely clear how to tune it
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This is probably the biggest issue with EMUI. But almost everything is tunable and with root/feedback from other EMUI users, I don't expect this to be a long term issue for anyone. (I started having issues playing music in the background without a charger plugged in - they fixed themselves last night and I'm not sure why. My preferred music player app was last updated in probably 2011, might or might not be a factor.)
every time the launcher is updated, it switch back to its stock launcher, and i have to set the nova again as default (this can be done just in the default app in the settings).
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I can confirm that you do not have this issue as long as automatic updates are turned off. I have also seen a general improvement after uninstalling updates to Google Webview.
The one EMUI feature I like that I forgot to mention in my previous post, is Eye Comfort. It's a partial blue light filter that works better than any apps I've found on the Play Store.
Nope the adpative icons do not works, and this is something that you may corcern since this is one of the feature of Oreo and the app on oreo only gave icons to works as adpative. The circle one are just ugly.
Regarding the orietation, the same app works all correctly on my previous tablet and on all my other devices.
Root should not be required to solve implementation problem.
The sotck rom must be as much as posdible bug free.
For all this bug we should blame Huawei: have a look to the support fotum for nova launcher or chronus, just to understand the real situation.
As usual what it is important for someone count nothing for the others
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Hi anyone on EMUI in the UK with the 10.8 Wifi version (CMR-W09). Would you please tell me what is the version you are on (Latest). As I am considering going back from Lineage for a short while as there are too many bugs just now. Stupidly I didn't note down what version of EMUI 8 I should be on and there are tonnes of them. Cheers.
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Hi anyone on EMUI in the UK with the 10.8 Wifi version (CMR-W09). Would you please tell me what is the version you are on (Latest). As I am considering going back from Lineage for a short while as there are too many bugs just now. Stupidly I didn't note down what version of EMUI 8 I should be on and there are tonnes of them. Cheers.
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SHT-W09C432B151 (8.0.0.151) is what you need
Hey there,
It's not a mixed zone for me:
1) If I wanted an Ipad I would have bought that.
2) I do not like limits in terms of app-drawer etc. (fixed this, now using Nova Pro)
3) battery optimization too heavy: hell, using the keyboard with firefox (nebo, playstore, and may more) is almost impossible as the screen brightness lowers even if automatic brightness adjustment is turned off ...
What I love is:
1) Battery live
2) How it all fits together (So the "Iphoneish feeling" that I cried about above is not my taste, but it's a consistent Design at least ...)
I bought the Mediapad mainly because of the Pen, the Hardware, and the Keyboard(if I am not hating it for ausing brightness trouble...) and these are the things that I really like!
I don't mind emui has some good features and of you use Nova you can make it look stock. I like the themes and the book cover feature. I like the battery optimisation it lasts so well.
I'm trying to get ahold of the stock firmware so I can root mine.
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SHT-W09C432B151 (8.0.0.151) is what you need
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Thanks very much. Appreciated!
odd1ne said:
I don't mind emui has some good features and of you use Nova you can make it look stock. I like the themes and the book cover feature. I like the battery optimisation it lasts so well.
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the tab has great features but some disadvantages (brightness bug with keyboard for me ... weird behavior at least)
Best of all certainly is the battery life! And I am using Nova ... That's why the look is not too much of an issue
I do notice the aggressive doze feature.
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I decided to replace my aging, but beloved, Nexus 7 2013 WiFi (running LineagoOS 15.0) with something a bit meatier. After much consideration, I ordered and received a 32GB M5 8.4 (SHT-W09) from Amazon UK.
First up, the hardware is awesome. I really notice the difference with the move to 4GB RAM and the updated CPU / GPU. The performance is worlds apart from the Nexus 7 - very zippy, very responsive, games run great etc. The display also is a significant improvement - I really like the 16:9 ratio too and don't agree with review feedback that it impacts eBook and web browsing. It works great for those and just looks incredible for movies and TV. No surprises so far, then, given the 5 year old spec of the N7. On the subject of this display, note that both Amazon Prime Video and Netflix now support HD playback on the SHT-W09. Absolutely brilliant. Audio is fine, I'd always listen through Bose BT OE headphones anyway. The lack of 3.5" headphone jack doesn't bother me in the least.
So, on to the OP question about EMUI. To be honest, I really don't like it. The sheer number of junk apps installed is disappointing, especially as some (YouTube, for example) cannot be uninstalled. Note that of the 32GB available, only 16GB was available out of the box. Adoptable storage has been explicitly disabled in EMUI, so there's no option to use external SD as internal storage. A bit disappointing, but a 128GB MicroSD gives plenty of storage for media, if not apps. Within the UI itself, I miss the app drawer button (I'm sure there's an option somewhere) and it all just doesn't feel "familiar" enough for my liking. The Themes idea is great, but the version delivered with the tab only seems to support local themes - there's no "Theme Store" as such, unlike the phone version of the app. As such, customisation feels limited. I've simply installed Nova and couldn't be happier with the end result.
A really worthy replacement for the king of Android tablets, the Nexus 7 2013, so I'd encourage the OP to give it a go!
@mroshaw similar for me. I replaced my Nexus 7 (2012) by the SHT-W09 and I am quite happy. I uninstalled all the apps I do not use (ebay, facebook, some games, ...) and I replaced the laucher with the Pixel-Launcher. The only parts which still remember me that I am running on EMUI are the top bar and the configuration settings, but I can live with that.
I do not regret having it bought. There are not many Android tablets out offering such a build quality and performance for such a price tag.
I am growing to like the emui. It's got some grand security features. Like others, I uninstalled a TON of apps, disabled others, then I put an AOSP P Dark theme (from here on xda). The theme takes care of the notifications bar icons - I didn't really like the emui ones - plus "stock-ifies" most of the UI.
@mroshaw To activate the app drawer button, go to Settings, Display, Home Secreen Stlye, choose Drawer.
To enable SD card storage, Settings, Storage, Default Location. I have 45GBs out of the internal 64GB once I adb uninstalled bloat.
The deal breaker for me with EMUI is the missing option to plug in the tablet via USB and mount its storage to be visible and usable with any files operation (I use Linux only). There is no HiSuite for Linux and doing everything via adb is just a pain in the neck.
Having said that, the alternative is Lineage OS as the currently only alternative ROM, but this breaks two other things which are a deal breaker as well: No Bluetooth connectivity (its just dosn't pair anything properly), so no BT audio, which sucks when there is no headphone jack. Plus, with a custom ROM you lose L1 security in widevine, so no HD streaming with Netflix or Amazon video.
Fortunately, my usage for the tablet is different from my beloved N7; I mainly use it as a score reader for my piano. I wouldn't recommend it as a replacement for the N7; for that I bought the Lenovo Tab 4 Plus and it's a perfect replacement - except there are no custom ROM, But you can root it and the Lenovo UI is pretty much stock.
@DF5JT mtp works for me to access the device's internal and sdcard storage. Probably you need to configure your udev rules to identify your device correctly.
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/net.oneplus.launcher/join?authuser=1
join the OnePlus launcher beta program on Google play even though it's full with this link
gettiN uP to geT dOWN
Also, I found a way to enable the clipboard on gboard and enable the sand theme & it actually sticks. (For some reason just setting the clipboard to true and the sand theme to true won't work normally)
Use root explorer, go to
data/user/0/com.google.android.inputmethod.latin
Then shared prefs & long press "exp_config.xml" & change the SE context to "u : object_r : shell_exec:s0"
You don't have to manually input that you can select it from the list. Then edit the "exp_config.xml" file & change clipboard to true and Sand theme to true. Since you changed the SE contex it'll actually work and the clipboard and theme won't disappear. But if you're using Smurf kernel for some reason it doesn't stick. The the sand theme is so dope looking
Hey, you can just edit the name in the url for another app url name & join their full beta program too, I joined about 50 full beta programs last week.
Here's the link to join OnePlus switch beta program that's full, & here's the link for drive sync beta program that's also full
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.oneplus.backuprestore
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.ttxapps.drivesync/join
Can this launcher be used on a pixel 2xl? Desperately want to have the new gestures, and I don't think there is an oxygen os port available for my device. (Lineage has a lot of features but I'm not sure it's compatible neither). It'll be a couple months before I get a OnePlus 6t
Thanks
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Can this launcher be used on a pixel 2xl? Desperately want to have the new gestures, and I don't think there is an oxygen os port available for my device. (Lineage has a lot of features but I'm not sure it's compatible neither). It'll be a couple months before I get a OnePlus 6t
Thanks
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Haven't tried, I'll try & report back. I've been kind of busy with cyber Friday and Black Monday .. barely even played my pixel 3
Thanks, look forward to seeing whatcha think. Cheers.
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Thanks, look forward to seeing whatcha think. Cheers.
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I'm still busy cleaning up the cyber week deals. I actually was browsing a website that was so run through they had pixel dock & pixel buds listed for 0.00 . I was like that's a great deal. So I ordered them . I paid zero for pixel dock & buds ?. Then Google fudged up some of my shipments so I got 25 Google play credit & 50 Google store credit. Then I tore up Google Express with promo codes & made best buy do some hefty price matchs. I'm almost done. Just got to get my pixel XL 3 fog case ordered with a promo code then I can finally see?Wait what I'm I testing out again. This thread is about the beta launcher sign up even know it's full. Ok and you want me to test it on my pixel phone to see if it works. If I can put my OnePlus 6 down I'll try
I realized, the new launcher requires you to enable the gestures in the settings app (native to oxygen os?)
I wonder if the apk could be modified to enable the new multitasking UI gestures? I wonder if it could be added to an existing custom rom?
Just spitballing, it seems people have the new launcher working on some asop pie roms, however I'd like to see the tmobile version of the launcher (i think some with root are swapping or using modules etc on international versions) with the google feed, and the new nav gestures to boot.)
cheers,
-g
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I realized, the new launcher requires you to enable the gestures in the settings app (native to oxygen os?)
I wonder if the apk could be modified to enable the new multitasking UI gestures? I wonder if it could be added to an existing custom rom?
Just spitballing, it seems people have the new launcher working on some asop pie roms, however I'd like to see the tmobile version of the launcher (i think some with root are swapping or using modules etc on international versions) with the google feed, and the new nav gestures to boot.)
cheers,
-g
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Bro if the devs get onePlus launcher working on the pixel rom, Thatd be hella cool. OnePlus gestures are the biz
OnePlus has gone all Hollywood now though. They some tryN to support the Devs no more, accept blu Sparks. He fixes what they don't. First they got rid of the OnePlus girl who knows what's coming next, that's why I ain't getting rid of my OnePlus 6 it could be the last of the best OnePlus devices
What thread is this what is going on is this future or past.
I'll see you again in 25 years ?
Ok, I meant 25 minutes, my bad my Gboard gots the clipboard set as shell sporting the same theme in beta and I was watching twin peaks the return so Google Assistant entered years and did the Lara Palmer hand thing, not me. But the Gboard is so dope work sand theme.. I tried to type to type a tutorial on how to get it to stick, but my gboard and my teaching skills I guess they ain't that good cuz no one think me. You see you can't get the clipboard and the sand thing to stick especially on Smurf kernel. But it probably got buried. No one likes me on XDA. Cuz I'm getting up to get down. And I don't if OnePlus launcher works in the pixel XL 3. Cuz I just try to download it and then I just was like, forget this, I'm signing up for the free month of project fee right now that just started a couple hours ago. Pixel lunchers is the biz ,I was like OnePlus who. This phone is the business the pixel 3 XL. The OnePlus 6 way too fast for me, I'm already fast enough and then you had all that ran and speed and quick charge I stopped sleeping. So I think the answer is no I don't know I got to go hit up the pixel 3 XL forms. That's where everyone's going. OnePlus went Hollywood and stop the dev program
I'm so sorry about so the post. My friends unlocked my phone when I passed out in adb mode with face unlock and did that. I didn't spam my own thread.. I'm already got about of write ups. Don't be like that guy that works at the bank as a teller.. don't tell mr. Wizard good thing he's on Christmas break
How bad is the os? i understand i can only install a third party launcher in the global version. I saw this one in amazon https://www.amazon.com/Snapdragon-A...C6/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me= could anyone tell me if it's the global version or not? Also, could i use substratum on it?. Also, is it possible to modify the swipe from the bottom for settings ? is the screen as good as the note 8? (phone i currently own). How good are the cameras? does the assistant button trigger google assistant on the global version? thanks everyone
Hi. I am using vivo nex s global and first thing i installed was nova launcher. It's more comfortable for me. I can't compare display with note 8 but i heard it is very similar. AI button can be set to Google assistant. And to that cameras: selfie camera is good but not the best and main cameras are somwhere between iphone 7 and iphone 8. Especially in low light
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How bad is the os? i understand i can only install a third party launcher in the global version. I saw this one in amazon https://www.amazon.com/Snapdragon-A...C6/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me= could anyone tell me if it's the global version or not? Also, could i use substratum on it?. Also, is it possible to modify the swipe from the bottom for settings ? is the screen as good as the note 8? (phone i currently own). How good are the cameras? does the assistant button trigger google assistant on the global version? thanks everyone
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I don't have any problems or complaints with Funtouch. I have yet to use other launchers, but if I did, I'd probably would have complaints as I would've conformed to the other launcher.
The picture below shows the bottom slide up menu using gestures. The red circle shows settings icon when you slide up to access this menu. You can't assign a gesture for settings, but you can switch gesture location from left to right.
Reading the questions about playstore, seller says it can be installed. Global version comes with it pre-installed. Also seller says nova can't be used. I think it's Chinese version and not global, I'd avoid.
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How bad is the os? i understand i can only install a third party launcher in the global version. I saw this one in amazon https://www.amazon.com/Snapdragon-A...C6/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me= could anyone tell me if it's the global version or not? Also, could i use substratum on it?. Also, is it possible to modify the swipe from the bottom for settings ? is the screen as good as the note 8? (phone i currently own). How good are the cameras? does the assistant button trigger google assistant on the global version? thanks everyone
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Dude os is not at all bad actually it's really smooth it's not just ios rip off it's actually is as smooth as ios m using it since 1 month seriously no lag
Also i bet u u will get use to to the OS
Hi,
My Mi Note 10 has just updated via the updater in phone settings, to MIUI Global 12.0.1 Stable (QFDMIXM). I believe it just become available for the phone, I'm in the UK. For some reason I can't seem to find or switch on the Mar's or Earth super wallpapers, it only seems to have normal wall papers. This was the one feature I was looking forward to in the MIUI 12 update.
Have Xiaomi just not included these Superwallpapers in for the official global release for the Mi Note 10. I recall reading somewhere that only china devices get these wallpapers?
.Or do I need to go for a factory reset? Perhaps I've messed something up prior to the MIUI 12 update although I can't see how?
Final option, I saw the superwallpapers can be added to any phone from this forum if they aren't included with the update.
Would appreciate the advice, just scratching my head as to what's happened with these wallpapers, but don't want to factory reset if it's needed.
Thanks,
fcorry
As far as i know, only phone with snapdragon 8 series that will get the super wallpaper
Hello. After MIUI 12 update there is no dedicated 5x and macro buttons on camera default layout. Why is that?
Is it there just swipe to zoom with two fingers
Or tap on 2x and tap again on 2x button
Will apear the other modes
Do you have the clone tool on the camera after the update? It was offered for us but I didn't get it.
When this super wallpaper are taken off from mi note 10 but you can have it:
Download and install this:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/xiaomi-inc/wallpaper/wallpaper-alpha-2-3-95-07221822-release/
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/xiaom...h-alpha-2-3-92-07132017-android-apk-download/
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/xiaom...s-alpha-2-3-87-06281405-android-apk-download/
And you can use this tool:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rk.android.app.shortcutmaker
Then you open shortcut maker and:
Xiaomi Mi Note 10
szymel00 said:
When this super wallpaper are taken off from mi note 10 but you can have it:
Download and install this:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/xiaomi-inc/wallpaper/wallpaper-alpha-2-3-95-07221822-release/
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/xiaom...h-alpha-2-3-92-07132017-android-apk-download/
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/xiaom...s-alpha-2-3-87-06281405-android-apk-download/
And you can use this tool:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rk.android.app.shortcutmaker
Then you open shortcut maker and:
Xiaomi Mi Note 10
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Thank you works perfect
So I updated my OnePlus 7t to Oxygen OS 12 and I miss a very important feature. The feature I'm talking about is "Swipe up to search app". This enabled us to search through the app drawer as soon as we swiped up from the home screen. So without any hassle we could search and find the app we were looking for just by swiping up and typing the app name. But unfortunately this feature got removed in Oxygen OS 12. It worked flawlessly on Oxygen OS 10 and 11.
So now we manually gotta swipe up and then tap on the search bar and type. So is there any way to get this feature back on Oxygen OS 12 while using the stock launcher. Like using ADB commands or by using gesture apps or by using automation apps by creating a series of actions.
Any help is welcomed. As I said it used to be a very vital feature for me, I used it very often, so I'm looking for a workaround to get it back. Also I don't wanna rollback to previous version of Oxygen OS.
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So I updated my OnePlus 7t to Oxygen OS 12 and I miss a very important feature. The feature I'm talking about is "Swipe up to search app". This enabled us to search through the app drawer as soon as we swiped up from the home screen. So without any hassle we could search and find the app we were looking for just by swiping up and typing the app name. But unfortunately this feature got removed in Oxygen OS 12. It worked flawlessly on Oxygen OS 10 and 11.
So now we manually gotta swipe up and then tap on the search bar and type. So is there any way to get this feature back on Oxygen OS 12 while using the stock launcher. Like using ADB commands or by using gesture apps or by using automation apps by creating a series of actions.
Any help is welcomed. As I said it used to be a very vital feature for me, I used it very often, so I'm looking for a workaround to get it back. Also I don't wanna rollback to previous version of Oxygen OS.
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+1 Did you ever find an answer??