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So under settings I spot that I can enable NFC although when I try to install Google Wallet, it installs and upon opening I get told the app isn't approved for my country/carrier. I'm curious if there's any way to get Google Wallet to work (mind you, I have it installed but can't open. All solutions I've seen have been to get it installed). If Google Wallet doesn't work then what good is the NFC in the phone? What other uses can I find for it?
You can buy tags online, program them, and stick them all over the place. You can use an app like NFC Task Launcher to program them and assign tasks to different tags. For example, if you put one on your desk at top you can tap your phone to it and it will enable wifi, bluetooth, and turn your ringer on. If you put one in your car you can have it set the phone to silent, turn off wifi, etc etc
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You can buy tags online, program them, and stick them all over the place. You can use an app like NFC Task Launcher to program them and assign tasks to different tags. For example, if you put one on your desk at top you can tap your phone to it and it will enable wifi, bluetooth, and turn your ringer on. If you put one in your car you can have it set the phone to silent, turn off wifi, etc etc
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Interesting. Thanks for the info. Kinda boring I can't use the Google Wallet though! Oh well. Now to try figuring why AT&T won't let me install a visual voicemail app.
Also (although I haven't tested,) Android Beam should work. I don't know too much about it, but you should be able to tap your phone to someone else's NFC-enabled Android phone and send them files.
I have no idea if this actually works though.
only Sprint has access to Google Wallet right now. AT&T, TMo and VZW are launching ISIS which is a competing service with a lot more options than one bank and one carrier...
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Also (although I haven't tested,) Android Beam should work. I don't know too much about it, but you should be able to tap your phone to someone else's NFC-enabled Android phone and send them files.
I have no idea if this actually works though.
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Yep, Android Beam works as well. Me and my friend with his Verizon Gnex did it and it worked beautifully.
I just discovered that such things even exist, and I'm intrigued by the idea. You just tap the tag with the phone and it can do stuff? What sort of stuff? How much stuff per tag? Do I need specific types of tags for the S4? I'm sort of geeked up by the idea of making my phone do stuff like it's magic.
I myself am just getting started with nfc tags. The 1 thing I've read about most is to automate a few tasks, for example when you get in your car and tap the nfc tag you can have the phone turn off wifi, turn on mobile data, turn on bluetooth etc.
I currently have 1 tag that I leave on the dash of my car and it is set to turn off wifi and turn on gps and bluetooth. I also have programmed the phone to say "welcome to the bat mobile"! (just to test it out). Also, on tapping on the same tag again when I'm home it does the opposite but says "welcome home".
The Galaxy S4 will work with NTAG203 nfc tags and not the older mifare 1k tags, as far as I know.
To get started you'll need:
1) NFC Capable phone
2) NFC tags. (I got some NTAG203 from eBay. 5 tags for $5 incl. shipping).
3) An app such as NFC Task launcher. I find this app to be the best and for some reason I am able to write more data to tags than for example the Samsung Tectile app.
Once you have the app installed and the tags. It's actually quite easy to get going.
There could be commercial uses for these tags if you own a business. You can program your company's website/address/phone and place them for marketing. People who have nfc capable phones can then tap on this tag to get the information.
Hope this helps!
Very interesting. It sounds like one could, for example, place a tag on a phone holder and have it launch Google Navigator. What would be even better is being able to execute a command after the app launches. That way, it would automatically ask you to speak the destination.
Sounds pretty cool.
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I have never used NFC tags either, coming from Apple devices. You mention that you have a tag in your car holder. Does this mean that the navigation app etc starts when you place the phone in the holder, and then quit those apps when you remove the phone from the holder? Or do you have to remove the phone and and then touch the NFC tag once again to deactivate the navigation app and such?
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The Galaxy S4 will work with NTAG203 nfc tags and not the older mifare 1k tags, as far as I know.
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From what I've read, you're right. I also found this thread discussing the differences and actually mentioning another type that works with the S4.
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I have never used NFC tags either, coming from Apple devices. You mention that you have a tag in your car holder. Does this mean that the navigation app etc starts when you place the phone in the holder, and then quit those apps when you remove the phone from the holder? Or do you have to remove the phone and and then touch the NFC tag once again to deactivate the navigation app and such?
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Yes the navigation app starts when you place the phone in the holder, however if you are talking about using the same NFC tag, the app will not quit when the phone is removed.
One NFC tag can only perform preset function(s) all at once, in sequential order. So if the NFC Tag is set to program the Navigation App to start, then programming the next action to close the same app will not do you any good.
To find out the types of functions a NFC Tag can be programmed with, download "NFC Task Launcher" from Google Play and click on "My Tasks".
But you can use apps to set the tag to be a toggle, right? So tap it once, it turns on navigation. Tap it again to turn it off? Or is that just for "togglable" settings like wifi on/off or bluetooth on/off?
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But you can use apps to set the tag to be a toggle, right? So tap it once, it turns on navigation. Tap it again to turn it off? Or is that just for "togglable" settings like wifi on/off or bluetooth on/off?
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Yes. Applications can be set to launch on one tap and close on the other. These would need to be set as two different actions when you program the nfc tag.
Wifi/Bluetooth/GPS/Mobile Data etc can be set to toggle so you don't need to create separate entries and that will spare the very little data you can write to those nfc tags.
Get Tasker. It's worth it.
You can simply program NFC tags to run a specific Task in tasker.
An example of this usage would be as such....
Get Tasker
Set NFC tag to Run "Task XXX"
Place NFC tag/sticker in Car Dock
Dock Phone to Car
NFC toggles the start of "Task XXX"
In this case... "Task XXX" may do this
Set to loud speaker mode
When receiving calls, auto speakerphone (Couple this with the Wave to answer call gesture)
When receiving texts, read out messages
Auto launch Google Maps and plot a route home
instead of me trying to explain it, i think its better you watch a few video demos on my various play lists. http://www.youtube.com/user/veryannoyingname/videos?sort=dd&tag_id=&view=1 At present there are 53 public play lists sorted by device or feature and a few more private ones which i will make public at a later date probably.
see the NFC play list and Tasker play list and home automation play lists and a few more are there in my couple of how to play lists as well. I frequently update my play lists so check them out at a later date too. Subscribers will be alerted automatically when i upload videos or update play lists.
As I understand the nfc tag is used to store data that a.nfc.phone can read.
The stored data is to issue a command such as call contact, turn wifi on ect..
--*** Be Warned ***--
!!! Always turn nfc off when you go out as I'm sure people have realised this and you might walk past a person with a nfc tag in his pocket, then your phone may start doing unwanted acts such as uploading your account data. !!!
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As I understand the nfc tag is used to store data that a.nfc.phone can read.
The stored data is to issue a command such as call contact, turn wifi on ect..
--*** Be Warned ***--
!!! Always turn nfc off when you go out as I'm sure people have realised this and you might walk past a person with a nfc tag in his pocket, then your phone may start doing unwanted acts such as uploading your account data. !!!
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app
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NFC tags with over very short distances, see my video uploads on YouTube linked below.
unless the NFC tags were in the other chaps back pocket and your phone was in your trouser front pocket and you were close enough to be rubbing yourself on the other person's backside even then you would be lucky to be triggering off any such thing.
you actually demo such a hack working on another person's phone. I know there are a couple of such videos on YouTube. But seriously can anyone show a demo of such a hack working. If it did then all your credit cards that come with NFC on them now would be pillaged left right and centre by crooks and NFC tags would not come pre installed on credit and debit cards now by many major banks. Don't you think that would have tested out for such hacks on the nfc enabled credit and debit cards and NFC enabled Google phones with Google wallet features.
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NFC tags with over very short distances, see my video uploads on YouTube linked below.
unless the NFC tags were in the other chaps back pocket and your phone was in your trouser front pocket and you were close enough to be rubbing yourself on the other person's backside even then you would be lucky to be triggering off any such thing.
you actually demo such a hack working on another person's phone. I know there are a couple of such videos on YouTube. But seriously can anyone show a demo of such a hack working. If it did then all your credit cards that come with NFC on them now would be pillaged left right and centre by crooks and NFC tags would not come pre installed on credit and debit cards now by many major banks. Don't you think that would have tested out for such hacks on the nfc enabled credit and debit cards and NFC enabled Google phones with Google wallet features.
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I dont think debit cards with nfc would be effected by what i said as you would need a device not a tag.
Im sure that someone will solve range problem, there are many malicious people out there and even if not, there are many ways to get to your phone with out you realising. day to day activitys distract you, people are not as aware as they assume.
Offtopic but slightly relavent. I've had enough time to use a script I made on phone that involves plugging in a cable.so swiping a.tag over phone while your in a cafe isn't going to be hard.
So just be warned
Things aren't always as safe as you think.
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i have a tag in my car dash mount that toggles wifi and turns on my music app and then at work i have a tag on my pc to toggle wifi again and turn on silent mode. Pretty handy if you ask me rather than unlocking your phone and shuffling through it
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Get Tasker. It's worth it.
You can simply program NFC tags to run a specific Task in tasker.
An example of this usage would be as such....
Get Tasker
Set NFC tag to Run "Task XXX"
Place NFC tag/sticker in Car Dock
Dock Phone to Car
NFC toggles the start of "Task XXX"
In this case... "Task XXX" may do this
Set to loud speaker mode
When receiving calls, auto speakerphone (Couple this with the Wave to answer call gesture)
When receiving texts, read out messages
Auto launch Google Maps and plot a route home
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Just ordered some NFC tags based on some of your ideas. It will be fun to screw around with at the least, and they're really cheap!
rtmeikle said:
Just ordered some NFC tags based on some of your ideas. It will be fun to screw around with at the least, and they're really cheap!
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Check out the nfc play list on my channel where you will see many use case scenarios. Also check out the channel think it's called crowd gadgets on youtube who has many uploads for nfc and tasker combined use videos.
Remember, the S4 only works with a newer type of NFC tags. The old tags that advertised online to work with Galaxy S2, S3, Note 2, etc... WILL NOT work with the S4. I know because i have a bunch of them laying around the house being useless right now.
as far as I know, the new type of NFC tags that work with the S4 hasn't got release yet by Samsung. I dont know if other manufacturer made it tho.
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Remember, the S4 only works with a newer type of NFC tags. The old tags that advertised online to work with Galaxy S2, S3, Note 2, etc... WILL NOT work with the S4. I know because i have a bunch of them laying around the house being useless right now.
as far as I know, the new type of NFC tags that work with the S4 hasn't got release yet by Samsung. I dont know if other manufacturer made it tho.
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these are the cheapest i found that are non samsung tags and they have the NTAG203 that works with the S4 i use the tags ordered from here daily with no issues.
http://tagsfordroid.com/
jax5ter said:
these are the cheapest i found that are non samsung tags and they have the NTAG203 that works with the S4 i use the tags ordered from here daily with no issues.
http://tagsfordroid.com/
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So these tags from Amazon should work with the S4 right since its has NTAG203 chip?
http://www.amazon.com/TagsForDroid-...=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1370458262&sr=1-4
So have a tmo note 3 and a dell xps 12. Both have nfc and can detect when they get close to each other.... this is where my knowledge ends. I have googled with no luck so would appreciate more than "just search". Giving me keywords to search for is a good option too.
So what I want to happen is phone and pc unlocks when I bring them together. And possibly connect airdroid or something similar between them so I can use my phones features on my pc without plugging in anything. If anyone wants to just point me in the direction of some cool programs that use nfc for windows that would be great also.
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So have a tmo note 3 and a dell xps 12. Both have nfc and can detect when they get close to each other.... this is where my knowledge ends. I have googled with no luck so would appreciate more than "just search". Giving me keywords to search for is a good option too.
So what I want to happen is phone and pc unlocks when I bring them together. And possibly connect airdroid or something similar between them so I can use my phones features on my pc without plugging in anything. If anyone wants to just point me in the direction of some cool programs that use nfc for windows that would be great also.
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The NFC available bandwidth is pretty limited I believe. The features that let you direct-transfer files between Android devices by touching them uses NFC to set up Wifi Direct connections, so all the *cool* apps like Airdroid just use wifi.
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The NFC available bandwidth is pretty limited I believe. The features that let you direct-transfer files between Android devices by touching them uses NFC to set up Wifi Direct connections, so all the *cool* apps like Airdroid just use wifi.
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Yep yep I meant more like them telling each other "Hey! He is using both of us... thats silly.... why don't I load up airdroid so he can quit wasting battery life on both of us?" Without me having to do anything except initially set them up to do that.... just cant figure out anything when it comes to the nfc between the two.
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Yep yep I meant more like them telling each other "Hey! He is using both of us... thats silly.... why don't I load up airdroid so he can quit wasting battery life on both of us?" Without me having to do anything except initially set them up to do that.... just cant figure out anything when it comes to the nfc between the two.
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Well Airdroid itself can be configured to start automatically when a specified wifi SSID is present.
If you really want to use NFC for unlocking, then you need to read these instructions.
Video instructions are linked below.**
Hey, everyone! I just wanted to share something that I figured out when I was trying to enable my WiFi hotspot on my S8. First of all, I have an AT&T Galaxy S8 (G950U) with Unlimited Data, and my hotspot doesn't typically work at all. When I try to enable it normally, it has to "verify," then it tells me I need to subscribe. However, while playing around with Package Disabler Pro and the hotspot, I figured out how to get the hotspot turned on (running off of unlimited data) without root or any sort of complex workaround. The only things you'll need are a $2 app, ANY WiFi source (even locked), and a supported carrier on your S8 (AT&T, Verizon, and others). Here the steps to get it up and running:
1) Download Package Disabler Pro (by policedeveloper), get it up and running, and search for "tether" in the seach box
2) Three options should pop up ("TetheringProvision", "TetheringAutomation", and "com.qualcomm.qti.tetherservice"). Disable all three packages.
3) Go to your Mobile Hotspot settings and make sure WiFi Sharing is turned ON. Very important.
4) Go to your WiFi Settings and connect to any WiFi network near you, but PURPOSELY put in the wrong WiFi password. It will try to connect for a short time, so you need to be quick on the next step.
5) Quickly enable your mobile hotspot while the phone is still trying to connect to the network with the wrong password. After the hotspot turns on, quickly turn off your WiFi. The hotspot will stay on and continue to run off of your unlimited data!
I actually tested this last year on the Galaxy S7 edge on AT&T, so it works on there as well! I've uploaded the following videos to YouTube as well for the S7 and S8 respectively, so if this helped you, be sure to go click on some ads on my YouTube videos! It helps me out lol.
**S7 edge video: https://youtu.be/w3usivgCFSc
**S8 video: https://youtu.be/f8n6-ZrdIQg
It's worth noting that I'm actually not sure how many carriers this works on. I know it doesn't work on Sprint, but lately it actually started working on Verizon too. I've had some people tell me that it works on other smaller carriers as well, but if it works for you in a different carrier leave a comment below so I can see how many it works on please!
Not seemingly working for sprint. No matter how fast I swap to disable the wifi, if the wifi is disconnected, hotspot it turned off.
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Not seemingly working for sprint. No matter how fast I swap to disable the wifi, if the wifi is disconnected, hotspot it turned off.
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Yeah, unfortunately it won't work on Sprint. Turns out they have a different way of checking to see if you're subscribed to tethering. I did find this thread several months ago dealing with getting the hotspot turned on with Sprint though. Check it out and let me know if it still works if you don't mind:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6-edge/general/unlimited-hotspot-root-t3249042
ldog3211 said:
Yeah, unfortunately it won't work on Sprint. Turns out they have a different way of checking to see if you're subscribed to tethering. I did find this thread several months ago dealing with getting the hotspot turned on with Sprint though. Check it out and let me know if it still works if you don't mind:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6-edge/general/unlimited-hotspot-root-t3249042
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Actually, you could also try downloading the Galaxy Tools app, check "enable hotspot", and then reboot your phone. Basically works the same way I think but it's automatic:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/afvzbs5w752yp4p/GTv3.1.5.apk?dl=0
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Yeah, unfortunately it won't work on Sprint. Turns out they have a different way of checking to see if you're subscribed to tethering. I did find this thread several months ago dealing with getting the hotspot turned on with Sprint though. Check it out and let me know if it still works if you don't mind:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s6-edge/general/unlimited-hotspot-root-t3249042
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In an OTA update last Friday, Sprint locked down the ##DATA# method and settings are now grayed out for me. The previous Shortcut method I'd used to edit APN settings wasn't working either. I did come a different Shortcut Master search string which allowed me to get in and edit the APN, however. I don't know why from one view it works, but from the other it did not. If memory serves it was looking for LTEfunctionality.
These carriers need a swift kick in the ass for disabling features on these phones.
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In an OTA update last Friday, Sprint locked down the ##DATA# method and settings are now grayed out for me. The previous Shortcut method I'd used to edit APN settings wasn't working either. I did come a different Shortcut Master search string which allowed me to get in and edit the APN, however. I don't know why from one view it works, but from the other it did not. If memory serves it was looking for LTEfunctionality.
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Oh, I see. That sucks! I don't have a Sprint Galaxy phone, so I can't test anything out, but I wonder if it's still possible through that different search string. I don't really know how any of that works though. What I really wish would happen is for Samsung to actually stand up to these carriers and not keep taking their BS. However, even Apple, as great as they are at this, blocks the hotspot on certain iPhones depending on the carrier and plan...
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These carriers need a swift kick in the ass for disabling features on these phones.
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Yes tf they do. Samsung needs to learn from Apple and stop taking the carriers' BS. That right there would solve a problem a lot of people have with Samsung, but of course they're not going to stop.
druep said:
In an OTA update last Friday, Sprint locked down the ##DATA# method and settings are now grayed out for me. The previous Shortcut method I'd used to edit APN settings wasn't working either. I did come a different Shortcut Master search string which allowed me to get in and edit the APN, however. I don't know why from one view it works, but from the other it did not. If memory serves it was looking for LTEfunctionality.
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U r correct, the ltefunctionality is the place for editing the apns. Search the sprint thread as this method has been posted several times using quickshortcut maker app and searching test to find the directory. Click try then look for lteapn settings and add dun to the default,mms. It should look like the following.... deault,mms,dun
Any prl or profile updates along with android os updates will undo this. So each time any of those update redo the above steps. I'm on 10gb hotspot and have used it for 3 weeks last month with Bill showing no hotspot data used. I'm on sprint
You should've bought an unlocked S8. I have unlimited data on AT&T with an unlocked S8 and the hotspot works just fine.
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These carriers need a swift kick in the ass for disabling features on these phones.
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I never run out of reasons to ensure any phone I buy has root.
Does this method show as you using hot spot and they charge you for using it? I have the unlimited data plan but I am not paying the extra for the hotspot feature because I think it is dumb and should be free anyways as a feature of the phone so I refuse to pay for that service. I have ATT.
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Does this method show as you using hot spot and they charge you for using it? I have the unlimited data plan but I am not paying the extra for the hotspot feature because I think it is dumb and should be free anyways as a feature of the phone so I refuse to pay for that service. I have ATT.
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Nope! I've been doing this for over a year now, and I've never gotten any notice, warning, or anything from AT&T. I use AT LEAST 100GB of data every month, and several months I've used over 200GB. They haven't charged me a dime even though I'm not supposed to have the hotspot with my unlimited data plan! And I don't use a VPN or anything...
ldog3211 said:
Nope! I've been doing this for over a year now, and I've never gotten any notice, warning, or anything from AT&T. I use AT LEAST 100GB of data every month, and several months I've used over 200GB. They haven't charged me a dime even though I'm not supposed to have the hotspot with my unlimited data plan! And I don't use a VPN or anything...
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Well cool. I got it to work. I haven't had much time to test it but it seems great.
On Verizon s8 anyone figure out how to get this working. Can't find app "TetheringProvision" or anything similar to disable on my VZ s8 phone.
I found "TetheringAutomation", and "com.qualcomm.qti.tetherservice" and disabled. It still checks subscription and fails.
Thanks!
Solution: Switch to Tmobile
Yianaki said:
On Verizon s8 anyone figure out how to get this working. Can't find app "TetheringProvision" or anything similar to disable on my VZ s8 phone.
I found "TetheringAutomation", and "com.qualcomm.qti.tetherservice" and disabled. It still checks subscription and fails.
Thanks!
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You can get your hotspot working by popping sim tray, unlock phone, open up stopwatch, insert sim tray and start stopwatch at the same time, when the stopwatch hits 8 seconds turn on hotspot from the pull down menu.
I know it takes some work but works every time for me. I will try to post a video for anyone who wants. Working on my verizon s8+. Thanks!
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You can get your hotspot working by popping sim tray, unlock phone, open up stopwatch, insert sim tray and start stopwatch at the same time, when the stopwatch hits 8 seconds turn on hotspot from the pull down menu.
I know it takes some work but works every time for me. I will try to post a video for anyone who wants. Working on my verizon s8+. Thanks!
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I thought for sure that this was going to be a joke to see how long I would sit there popping my sim and launching apps and such, but WOW.
It actually worked on my third attempt ( VZ S8+)
Thanks again for posting this!:good:
Too easy I just went to Settings > Apps clicked the
overflow menu to show system apps and forced stop tetheringprovision and tetheringautomation. I also disabled tethering provision's access to change system settings.
My hotspot worked right away I'm on ATT UDP
has this stopped working after the lastest ATT update
Is anyone else using the Smart Lock feature and does it work for you?
If I enable On-body detection, that seems to work correctly. Trusted devices I haven't tried as I don't have any free BT devices to link to that aren't already paired with something else.
Trusted places however doesn't seem to work at all. It found my Home location that I have configured in Google Maps and I've enabled it, but no matter where I am around my home (inside or out), I'm still forced to unlock the device after swiping up. The radius is huge around the trusted location, so I can't imagine that it's an issue with GPS drift.
Op9 here and works perfectly on trusted devices . Quick as I hop in my car and it connects. I'll try trusted places and report back later tonight
Having the exact same issue, device and on body work. location does not.
Personally never thought location was a good idea. Other people you don't want in your phone can be in the same location. Just my 2 cents
nujackk said:
Personally never thought location was a good idea. Other people you don't want in your phone can be in the same location. Just my 2 cents
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This is true. However my phone receives incoming messages frequently throughout the day and the device is always on my desk in my home. It doesn't seem like much, but it's a bit of a pain to have to enter a code or even lean over for face detection to work.
Edit: Plus, face detection won't work if you're wearing a mask.
I was able to get it working.
Had to go into settings and give Google, Home and Maps apps Location access all the time.
Then clear storage on Google Play Services
And lastly if using a home saved location in google maps delete it and re add it.