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I am planning on buying a OP7 from a third-party seller in Canada, but I don't like my phones opened out of its factory packaging. Some people told me if I buy from this third-party seller, they get them from China and just change it to Oxygen OS, which would not be good for 2 reasons, 1) Since I live in Canada the Chinese version wouldn't work (I'm with Telus) and 2) I don't like my phones tinkered with as I mentioned before.
So do you guys know if OnePlus Hong Kong sells Global phones or Chinese phones? And if they do sell global phones, the third-party sellers usually wouldn't mess with them right? They wouldn't have a reason to?
Thanks a lot!
Minchan_5 said:
I am planning on buying a OP7 from a third-party seller in Canada, but I don't like my phones opened out of its factory packaging. Some people told me if I buy from this third-party seller, they get them from China and just change it to Oxygen OS, which would not be good for 2 reasons, 1) Since I live in Canada the Chinese version wouldn't work (I'm with Telus) and 2) I don't like my phones tinkered with as I mentioned before.
So do you guys know if OnePlus Hong Kong sells Global phones or Chinese phones? And if they do sell global phones, the third-party sellers usually wouldn't mess with them right? They wouldn't have a reason to?
Thanks a lot!
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I am also from Canada and all versions of this phone even the china models work in Canada on every network except freedom mobile.
rohaanS said:
I am also from Canada and all versions of this phone even the china models work in Canada on every network except freedom mobile.
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That's because they have the same hardware! Software is the only difference.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/330...&terminal_id=de458ebb0dce4d89b0355a0cd30df9d9
Hopefully this will entice developers to buy the phone and develop more ROMs and kernels for it. $385 is really cheap and to me, it's like a flagship killer all over again.
Only difference is in LTE bands between global and China/Indian variants
If anyone has friends in China, OnePlus China has the OnePlus 7 8GB/256GB for 2,500RMB.
You better buy from Gearbest - it's the same price using the code GBOP712256G. If you are from EU than you don't have any problem with the customs as if you buy from Aliexpress.
Just don't. Oneplus 7T is $415
Looks like it'll be $315USD on Singles Day! Solid price for a solid phone. Really tempted to get one now and replace my faulty OnePlus 5T.
keaheng said:
Just don't. Oneplus 7T is $415
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90Hz isn't worth extra $100
keaheng said:
Just don't. Oneplus 7T is $415
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Where is it available for that price and is it us compatible?
where do u see $315? im only seeing 375 for nov 11.
SeyMedia said:
You better buy from Gearbest - it's the same price using the code GBOP712256G. If you are from EU than you don't have any problem with the customs as if you buy from Aliexpress.
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Do you happen to know the difference between the $419 version and the $499 "international" version?
Seems like a steal at that price.
It's such a great phone I'd almost consider having a spare one.
Absolutely don't understand the appeal of the Pro — the battery is bigger but not better because of larger screen, and as a non-gamer the OP7 screen is way fast and accurate enough, wouldn't see the difference.
who ah way said:
Do you happen to know the difference between the $419 version and the $499 "international" version?
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If you post the links of those, i can check them out and tell you the difference.
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If you post the links of those, i can check them out and tell you the difference.
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Thank you.
$419 https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_009591521059.html?wid=1349303
$499 https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_009431793745.html?wid=1349303
who ah way said:
Thank you.
$419 https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_009591521059.html?wid=1349303
$499 https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_009431793745.html?wid=1349303
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It's the same version - GM1900 a.k.a. Chinese version with flashed global ROM, the only difference is the RAM: first has 8GB RAM, second has 12GB RAM.
https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_009591521059.html?wid=1349303 - this is what i bought a month ago, now it says i have an "email only price" (i think that you need to add it to favorites to get this offer) - $389.99. You can also buy it with a discount code - GBOP7GSBW - it should be $389.99.
Is there any difference in the OP7 models, 1900 vs. 1903? Isn't LTE band support the same?
mr3p said:
Is there any difference in the OP7 models, 1900 vs. 1903? Isn't LTE band support the same?
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There's a slight difference in LTE bands but the China/Indian variants support most LTE networks around the world. I updated the OP with a site for you to check the LTE bands and see if they work with your wireless network provider.
geokilla said:
There's a slight difference in LTE bands but the China/Indian variants support most LTE networks around the world. I updated the OP with a site for you to check the LTE bands and see if they work with your wireless network provider.
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I compared the 1903 (Global) vs. 1900 (China) on Kimovil and it looks like the Global version has support for a couple of extra LTE bands although according to OnePlus website there isn't any difference? If there really is any difference in LTE band support in 1903 vs. 1900, is it just a firmware difference or an actual internal hardware difference?
If there really are additional LTE bands supported in 1903, is there any way to know which model you get from Gearbest or you don't just get a 1900 loaded with a Global ROM? Based on some of the pictures posted in reviews, Gearbest appears to be selling 1900 although maybe they are all the same and it doesn't matter.
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is there any way to know which model you get from Gearbest or you don't just get a 1900 loaded with a Global ROM?
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I bought from GearBest. They are selling GM1900 with a global rom flashed(the GM57AA if not mistaken)... i flashed the latest(10.0.1.GM57BA) and it's working great.
Today's the day! Any developers buying it?
I also bought GM1900 variant of Oneplus 7 8GB RAM 256 GB ROM flashed with global ROM. I am now at 10.0.1 GM57AA Oxygen OS version. Phone works great and i saved around 80$ compared with the international version. I also checked the supported bands at the link provided by OP (thanks for that) and here are the differences in a brief summary for everybody who wonders.
4G (LTE) - Global version supports bands B25 (1900+) and B30 (2300) in addition to those supported also by the China version (GM1900). These two bands are exclusively used in USA and operators there support many more bands also. So the only case when you need international would be if you live in USA and are sure that your operator uses exclusively B25 and/or B30 LTE bands at your location. In all other cases you are safe with China GM1900 flashed with global ROM.
3G - China version (GM1900) supports band B9 (1800 Japan) which is not supported by Global. Everything else is the same.
2G - Same frequencies support for both China and Global versions.
To sum it up - GM1900 flashed with global ROM looks great deal to me.
I also bought the Red limited Chinese edition with 256GB and 8GB of RAM and I'm supper satisfied especially that I sold my 1 year old 6T for 370e and bought brand new OP7 for 396e!
Flashed EU Rom (BA) and everything works flawlessly. Also I have to say OP7 is a heck of an upgrade. FP sensor is miles better and works so fast no matter what. Speakers are better, touch responsiveness is better, camera is better, overall speed and fluidity is better. Design is the same but in my opinion it's still a nice looking phone and I think build quality seems better on OP7.
I'm still on Pie as the first builds of Android 10 are too buggy but if someone contemplates whether to upgrade or not I would really recommend it. All those little annoying things from 6T were fixed and this phone especially for that price has no match!
mlodykaras said:
I also bought the Red limited Chinese edition with 256GB and 8GB of RAM and I'm supper satisfied especially that I sold my 1 year old 6T for 370e and bought brand new OP7 for 396e!
Flashed EU Rom (BA) and everything works flawlessly. Also I have to say OP7 is a heck of an upgrade. FP sensor is miles better and works so fast no matter what. Speakers are better, touch responsiveness is better, camera is better, overall speed and fluidity is better. Design is the same but in my opinion it's still a nice looking phone and I think build quality seems better on OP7.
I'm still on Pie as the first builds of Android 10 are too buggy but if someone contemplates whether to upgrade or not I would really recommend it. All those little annoying things from 6T were fixed and this phone especially for that price has no match!
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Who told OP7 Android 10 is buggy?
Well OnePlus forums is flooded with people having issues all over. On top of that you can't hide the notch and there is no two button navigation on Android 10 which is something I use and I don't know if I can live without
Hello,
i would just like to know if OnePlus 8 (China version) is good enough to support 4G LTE in EU, does it have all the bands required? I've read about "band 28" which it lacks and that this will be used for 5G? I don't care for 5G (yet), so my question is, will it work for everything else, is it good enough, i'm from Slovenia if that helps, i've been checking the bands, but i'm too confused to know what to think about this, those are too confusing for me, i've been checking them, but i'm just not sure, i think it should be fine, but i'm not 100% sure, so if anyone who knows this stuff can tell me, or even better, someone who has that OnePlus 8 phone can tell me, that would be great (=
Greetings
I have just ordered a CN version for use in the UK and from what i have read it lacks 1 frequency (band 32 i think) which from what i'm aware o2 in UK doesn't use .... Is this correct anyone? (Sorry if this a thread hijack)
NaabKing said:
Hello,
i would just like to know if OnePlus 8 (China version) is good enough to support 4G LTE in EU, does it have all the bands required? I've read about "band 28" which it lacks and that this will be used for 5G? I don't care for 5G (yet), so my question is, will it work for everything else, is it good enough, i'm from Slovenia if that helps, i've been checking the bands, but i'm too confused to know what to think about this, those are too confusing for me, i've been checking them, but i'm just not sure, i think it should be fine, but i'm not 100% sure, so if anyone who knows this stuff can tell me, or even better, someone who has that OnePlus 8 phone can tell me, that would be great (=
Greetings
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Hi, just to be sure we're on the same page, I read that IN2010 is the international version (5 4gLTE bands support) and IN2020 is the Chinese one, which is missing one band used here in Europe.
Are you sure IN2010 is Chinese ?
Raiz said:
Hi, just to be sure we're on the same page, I read that IN2010 is the international version (5 4gLTE bands support) and IN2020 is the Chinese one, which is missing one band used here in Europe.
Are you sure IN2010 is Chinese ?
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IN2010 is the Chinese version of OP8 , while IN2020 is the chinsese version of OP8Pro
pantelis1867 said:
IN2010 is the Chinese version of OP8 , while IN2020 is the chinsese version of OP8Pro
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Oh thx, I didn't see that one coming , so I have 2 questions : where to search for those infos (regional variants numbers I mean) and is this a software matter or a hardware matter ? (Will there be missing/China specials bands in it or it's just software)
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Are there any global version of the OnePlus 8, if so what would be its regional variant name ?
Raiz said:
Oh thx, I didn't see that one coming , so I have 2 questions : where to search for those infos (regional variants numbers I mean) and is this a software matter or a hardware matter ? (Will there be missing/China specials bands in it or it's just software)
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I just use google to find out a variant. The main differences are hardware related, specifically the bands of the device. There is also a chinese version of Oxygen OS which is called Hydrogen OS , but this can change easily by flashing global unlocked OxygenOS without any compromises.
Here you can learn more about the bands in each version : https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/g1rm7e/oneplus_8_pro_versions_and_4glte_and_5g_nr/
Edit: I think there is not a global version bandwise. (US, Europe, India and China as far as i know )
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NaabKing said:
Hello,
i would just like to know if OnePlus 8 (China version) is good enough to support 4G LTE in EU, does it have all the bands required? I've read about "band 28" which it lacks and that this will be used for 5G? I don't care for 5G (yet), so my question is, will it work for everything else, is it good enough, i'm from Slovenia if that helps, i've been checking the bands, but i'm too confused to know what to think about this, those are too confusing for me, i've been checking them, but i'm just not sure, i think it should be fine, but i'm not 100% sure, so if anyone who knows this stuff can tell me, or even better, someone who has that OnePlus 8 phone can tell me, that would be great (=
Greetings
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Check this : https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-oneplus-8-12gb-cn. It mentions band compatibility with your country's carriers.
pantelis20 said:
I just use google to find out a variant. The main differences are
... https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-oneplus-8-12gb-cn. It mentions band compatibility with your country's carriers.
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Hi,
Thanks for all this clarification, indeed I've been kinda fooled by marketing speech...
I've bought the OnePlus 8 not on the OnePlus website but on another one, and the announce said "OnePlus International Version IN2010", I was like "cool, plus it's cheap, let's get this".
Now I understand the business behind the whole website (a French one): they buy in China, flash the global rom manually and sells it cheaper, but make a little margin on the final price. That's why they call it international, just because of the ROM!
I knew (but still wanted confirmation) about missing bands a HydrogenOS and now I fully understand the market scheme. So I'll be missing B28 band (used in France with my career for 4G LTE)and an EU-compatible charger. No big deal but I'm kinda disappointed in myself, not being able to see through marketing speech and candidly trusting attractive prices... Well, we learn as we make mistakes (and I'm not ready to forgot that one).
One last think, kil-movil had a section for the OnePlus 8 called "Global" with every bands marked as available, and the model number was still IN2010. I guess they're part of the deal, since when I clicked on "see offers" I was redirected to the website I bought it in.
Even the seller was lying as he said "compatible with every bands in France". And when people ask, he was denying it every single time
Thanks for your explanations tho, I'll be able to warn the next ones at least.
Raiz said:
Hi,
Thanks for all this clarification, indeed I've been kinda fooled by marketing speech...
I've bought the OnePlus 8 not on the OnePlus website but on another one, and the announce said "OnePlus International Version IN2010", I was like "cool, plus it's cheap, let's get this".
Now I understand the business behind the whole website (a French one): they buy in China, flash the global rom manually and sells it cheaper, but make a little margin on the final price. That's why they call it international, just because of the ROM!
I knew (but still wanted confirmation) about missing bands a HydrogenOS and now I fully understand the market scheme. So I'll be missing B28 band (used in France with my career for 4G LTE)and an EU-compatible charger. No big deal but I'm kinda disappointed in myself, not being able to see through marketing speech and candidly trusting attractive prices... Well, we learn as we make mistakes (and I'm not ready to forgot that one).
One last think, kil-movil had a section for the OnePlus 8 called "Global" with every bands marked as available, and the model number was still IN2010. I guess they're part of the deal, since when I clicked on "see offers" I was redirected to the website I bought it in.
Even the seller was lying as he said "compatible with every bands in France". And when people ask, he was denying it every single time
Thanks for your explanations tho, I'll be able to warn the next ones at least.
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That is unfortunate. Can't you claim RMA or something?
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That is unfortunate. Can't you claim RMA or something?
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Yup don't worry, I can return it and having all my money back but I don't think I will, my Nextbit Robin (daily driver) is dying and not having B28 4G out of 4 other antennas available isn't a big deal. I have only 50 Mo of data so I don't use 4G often. I would have been bothered by the charger but the seller claims (if it's not a lie) that he gives us an adapter. (Comments says he does, so hopefully he'll do)
Right now the only thing I have to do is getting past the disillusionment with some good music. Have you any title to recommend?
I have here listed supported 4G & 5G bands and Carrier Aggregation combinations of OnePlus 8:
China variant: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2010
Global variant: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2013
olkitu said:
I have here listed supported 4G & 5G bands and Carrier Aggregation combinations of OnePlus 8:
China variant: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2010
Global variant: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2013
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IN2013= EU version, not global, there is no global version.
But thx for the website, it's nice to have that tool
Is it possible to activate the VoLTE service (Vodafone ITA) with IN2010?
Hello, I have just ordered the oneplus 8 through Fnac and I think it is the version IN2010, seem like I cant find any EU version from fnac ( sorry im new in France )
My question is do you know any others site selling op8 EU version if not, does the IN2010 work fine in france?
Hey everyone
Before I buy the realme x50 pro, I would like to know if there is any difference between the "CN Global" version to the EU version of this phone.
The EU version costs significantly more money so... what is the pros&cons?
Thank you!
ShDorLq said:
Hey everyone
Before I buy the realme x50 pro, I would like to know if there is any difference between the "CN Global" version to the EU version of this phone.
The EU version costs significantly more money so... what is the pros&cons?
Thank you!
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Get the EU. I ended up selling my CN version. The software is not the same. Had I known, I would've bought the EU version.
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Get the EU. I ended up selling my CN version. The software is not the same. Had I known, I would've bought the EU version.
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The price of the EU version is so high so it's not a good deal.
In my country, the price is almost like the oneplus 8 pro so it's not really a "flagship killer".
Hello all,
I need to upgrade my current phone and I will probably be buying a OP8T, for my daily needs the 8/128 version is more then enough.
So i have a question about the differences between this version and the 12/256 regarding rooting/unlocking bootloaders/installing new roms.
Are the devices considered equal regarding the procedures for rooting/installing new roms, etc?
Im trying to find out if theres is more support for one version then the other so i can choose what to buy.
Thank you for the help.
systemcarrotpt said:
Hello all,
I need to upgrade my current phone and I will probably be buying a OP8T, for my daily needs the 8/128 version is more then enough.
So i have a question about the differences between this version and the 12/256 regarding rooting/unlocking bootloaders/installing new roms.
Are the devices considered equal regarding the procedures for rooting/installing new roms, etc?
Im trying to find out if theres is more support for one version then the other so i can choose what to buy.
Thank you for the help.
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There is no difference for rom support or unlocking/rooting between the 8/128 or 12/256 models from the same regions. Every device can easily be unlocked and converted between different rom versions as well.
Only difference is the TMobile locked version from USA that are more difficult to unlock and convert (need to be sim unlocked from T-Mobile first).
The only other hardware difference between models from various regions is that they support different LTE /5G bands and that can't be changed by the user in anyway. So might be worth looking into if you consider buying from another region. But for the same region there shouldn't be a difference between 8/128 or 12/256 versions the phones have the same hardware except ram and memory storage
Hi.
Thank you for the reply.
I was looking at the Chinese version 12/256 that is quite cheapper than the European version. But i found out about the LTE/5G bands as you say and i decided to go with the European version (or the version that Amazon sells in Europe).
I will be going with the 8/128 then.
Again, thank you for the help.
systemcarrotpt said:
Hi.
Thank you for the reply.
I was looking at the Chinese version 12/256 that is quite cheapper than the European version. But i found out about the LTE/5G bands as you say and i decided to go with the European version (or the version that Amazon sells in Europe).
I will be going with the 8/128 then.
Again, thank you for the help.
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Glad to be of help.
I bought a 8/128 GB EU version directly from oneplus before Christmas and haven't regretted it.
Right version is probably a more safe choice but I know people that have bought Chinese versions as well and is very happy with that. The phone will still work but you probably won't get the same coverage and speed if all band your provider used isnt supported.
I would compare the bands and see what suits you best.