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Where to buy outside of China

Since its sold in China, how can others living in Europe, etc buy it? We can maybe use this thread and list reliable resellers here

Always choose GeekBuying to buy my Xiaomi stuff. Placed my preorder of 32GB version last week, hope it will arrive soon. Will show my feedback here.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiao...-Core-1-8GHz-13-0MP-5-0MP---White-354226.html

Trusted sellers that I have had experience of include:
http://www.honorbuy.com/
https://ibuygou.com/
http://firstchinaphone.com/
http://beexz.com/
http://hotmid.com/
http://shop.gizchina.com/

Check out the following 2 sites as well:
http://www.oppomart.com/
http://merimobiles.com/
Cheers

This will not support ATT LTE or HSPA bands will it?

shaxs said:
This will not support ATT LTE or HSPA bands will it?
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Just HSPA+, no LTE
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi4

Ulver said:
Just HSPA+, no LTE
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi4
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Im actually okay with that....when will the 3gb version be available?

I want to buy Xiami Mi4c. I live in INDIA.
Does anyone know if this device will be launched in INDIA or not ? Any info on this will be appreciated.
Also my colleague is travelling to China, so will it be a good idea to get the phone from China ? Will it have international warranty ?

Any support for 4g in the uk?

Anyone tried buying from the actual mi site and getting delivered to a chinese shipping address?
All those resellers have a significant mark up and/or limited color choice.
I thought I might get someone I know who speaks chinese to do it, I cant see much downside but ... you never know.
I think the phone would be the same right? Its not like theres an english version.
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Efox is good
Also cect-shop, but i would go with efox

if I buy this phone from Oppomart (for ex) the apps will be in chinese and no google play? thats what i understood.

fancccc said:
if I buy this phone from Oppomart (for ex) the apps will be in chinese and no google play? thats what i understood.
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The Chinese version should be no google play included. You can get your device rooted and download a "谷歌安装器" app to install google play services. That's how chinese users install google play services.

ermacwins said:
Any support for 4g in the uk?
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Yes, it supports bands 3 and 7 but not 20 (so no dice on Vodafone)

4g support
on ibuygou they state on the product page that the phone supports both 4g networks (FDD and TDD)
Does anyone know whether it's supports both lte-FDD and lte-TDD?
I know it's dual sim, but do not know whether there is only 1 version of the phone that supports both 4g standards or that there is a specific version of the phone for FDD and a specific version of the phone for TDD.

schaap23 said:
on ibuygou they state on the product page that the phone supports both 4g networks (FDD and TDD)
Does anyone know whether it's supports both lte-FDD and lte-TDD?
I know it's dual sim, but do not know whether there is only 1 version of the phone that supports both 4g standards or that there is a specific version of the phone for FDD and a specific version of the phone for TDD.
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Yes, it supports both FDD-LTE and TDD-LTE per the official specs page (in the Mainland China part of the site): http://www.mi.com/mi4c/specs/

wingsfortheirsmiles said:
Yes, it supports both FDD-LTE and TDD-LTE per the official specs page (in the Mainland China part of the site)
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Ah thank you. I cannot read chinese so I couldn't figure that out from the product page.
In that case it's a really nice phone. Snapdragon 808, FDD and TDD.

Any of these companies have warehouses in Europe to save on custom charges and a better returns service if needed?

Here in Italy I know at least two well estabilished web-stores that import China devices (not only Xiaomi) and sell them with a "proprietary" warranty service.
They are TopResellerStore.it and SmartyLife.net, while both have excellent feedbacks I personally purchased from the former with good satisfaction.
Hope this helps.

Giocarro said:
Here in Italy I know at least two well estabilished web-stores that import China devices (not only Xiaomi) and sell them with a "proprietary" warranty service.
They are TopResellerStore.it and SmartyLife.net, while both have excellent feedbacks I personally purchased from the former with good satisfaction.
Hope this helps.
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Im looking at TopResellerStore but cant make it out if they have stock or not. Can you find out if they ship to UK and if so, the cost please?

Buying Mix3 in China

Hello everyone.
I want to buy Mix3 in online chinese markets as soon as it's available, I don't want to wait January when it will be available in Italy.
The question is: can I buy the Mix3 online in China and flash xiaomi.eu ROM or another i want? Or the Chinese Xiaomi phones are locked?

same here!
i have a friend in China for a couple of weeks. wanting him to buy there and bring back to USA for T-Mobile use. Can i get a global version or flash a global ROM to a Chinese version phone. I would assume an unlocked phone from a store there could work just fine. That is my hope.

lanceamoss said:
i have a friend in China for a couple of weeks. wanting him to buy there and bring back to USA for T-Mobile use. Can i get a global version or flash a global ROM to a Chinese version phone. I would assume an unlocked phone from a store there could work just fine. That is my hope.
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You need to make sure that he is grabbing the right model for Tmo bands. Then it will work. No global rom as of yet, so you are stuck on the CN rom for a bit (a la no Google out of the box)

idkwhothatis123 said:
You need to make sure that he is grabbing the right model for Tmo bands. Then it will work. No global rom as of yet, so you are stuck on the CN rom for a bit (a la no Google out of the box)
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thanks. that makes me kinda want to wait. If looking at the GSMArena specs, its got most of T-Mobiles bands...but If sometime later there may be a UK/Global model maybe its best not to grab one from China quite yet. But that is a gamble weather it would even support those 2 missing T-Mobile bands anyways, but at least there would be a better ROM for it.

Ya, I want the phone for the L1 + L5 GPS GNSS but it lacks Band 71. Google always tries to copy Apple too much and cannot put GNSS bands into their pixel 3. You would have thought they would have done that (besides I hate the stupid chin-pull out speakers would be awesone though). What I can tell the 256GB has B66 while the 128GB lacks B66. If anyone would confirm that?? Sounds like GNSS phones are MIA except by China.

vq8acsxht said:
Ya, I want the phone for the L1 + L5 GPS GNSS but it lacks Band 71. Google always tries to copy Apple too much and cannot put GNSS bands into their pixel 3. You would have thought they would have done that (besides I hate the stupid chin-pull out speakers would be awesone though). What I can tell the 256GB has B66 while the 128GB lacks B66. If anyone would confirm that?? Sounds like GNSS phones are MIA except by China.
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That's what I'm seeing on their China site. I'm needing Band 13, only on the 256 from what I can see. Which sucks ass because I wanted the Jade Green color, but 256 is only in black

alberto8523 said:
Hello everyone.
I want to buy Mix3 in online chinese markets as soon as it's available, I don't want to wait January when it will be available in Italy.
The question is: can I buy the Mix3 online in China and flash xiaomi.eu ROM or another i want? Or the Chinese Xiaomi phones are locked?
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you need unlock BL
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idkwhothatis123 said:
That's what I'm seeing on their China site. I'm needing Band 13, only on the 256 from what I can see. Which sucks ass because I wanted the Jade Green color, but 256 is only in black
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You can change the back cover of your phone

I'm considering getting this phone next

I was surprised how well this phone is supported on XDA and it looks quite good on paper, i have 1 question i cannot find answer to:
Does this phone support Carrier Aggregation in Europe? (4G+)

It you buy EU version then yes. If you buy India, China (RMQ) or any other version than EU then definitely not. So I heard.

greenys' said:
It you buy EU version then yes. If you buy India, China (RMQ) or any other version than EU then definitely not. So I heard.
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It's a small world.. lol.

k3lcior said:
It's a small world.. lol.
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I am also planning buying this mobile in Pakistan. Here mostly Global Version are released. Is eu global version?

waqar bukhari said:
I am also planning buying this mobile in Pakistan. Here mostly Global Version are released. Is eu global version?
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Yes i think so, homever i got Mi 9 Lite (got really nice deal 6/128GB variant for $205)

k3lcior said:
Yes i think so, homever i got Mi 9 Lite (got really nice deal 6/128GB variant for $205)
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Nice. But in my country mi 9 lite 6gb and realme xt 8gb are similarly priced. If I decides to increase my budget then I will go for realme xt. Sd712 over sd710.

According to realme support no it doesn't.
Also I'm based in Italy and can confirm you there is no sign of 4g+ even though I live near a Tri-Band bts (3-7-20) and my place is full of two and three bands bts.
Considering to return the phone for exactly this reason. My old op3t had full 4g+ in the same position

k3lcior said:
It's a small world.. lol.
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Indeed, friend.
Ormad said:
According to realme support no it doesn't.
Also I'm based in Italy and can confirm you there is no sign of 4g+ even though I live near a Tri-Band bts (3-7-20) and my place is full of two and three bands bts.
Considering to return the phone for exactly this reason. My old op3t had full 4g+ in the same position
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I still can't believe eu version doesn't support 4g+. I mean did you check sites if they show whether or not this device supports it or not? I mean I definitely did before buying but I only see which bands does the device support. Not the technology (3g and 4g is present but I don't see 4g+). If you didn't check for it then why did you buy? If you did check but it was written to be present but it is not, shouldn't you get s full refund or device return + refund??

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I still can't believe eu version doesn't support 4g+. I mean did you check sites if they show whether or not this device supports it or not? I mean I definitely did before buying but I only see which bands does the device support. Not the technology (3g and 4g is present but I don't see 4g+). If you didn't check for it then why did you buy? If you did check but it was written to be present but it is not, shouldn't you get s full refund or device return + refund??
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I can't believe it either, it was a BIG surprise to see it lacks it. In 2019, ANY and i mean ANY device you buy got a form of CA, even a Huawei MTK I just bought for dad for 99 euros. Of course this is also specified, for example as you can see there is mention for LTE-A (which is LTE+)
https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_5_pro-9801.php
I couldn't believe it so I sent an email to Realme customer service asking if the phone indeed supported LTE-A like specified and like supported by its chipset (snapdragon 712 is a 3*20mhz capable chipset) and they replied "realme 5 pro doesn't support LTE+"
Then, after more than TEN days, they replied again to the same email by saying that they were sorry for the previous reply and that the phone DOES support LTE+ (is this a professional service?)
I asked them how I can check which bands gets aggregated and why there is no sign of a 4g+ or lte+ icons like all other phones and... they never replied
I've read around that Realme support is a total crap, but I really tried and hoped they can answer about specs of a phone they produce and sell directly.
To dig further another guy here on xda sent some network guru screenshots where it is clearly shown that it only can catch a single band and not multiple.
So at this point I'm thinking about it. I've got until 31/01/2020 to be able to get a full refund but kinda I still like the phone speed, but this network problem and the camera (which is the worst 48Mpixel sensor I've ever tried, but it seems to be a software issue) kills my willingness to keep it. I was also waiting if any new update can fix either of the problems so I guess I'll wait a lil more, but still I can't advice to buy this phone. Xiaomi on the same price level doesn't have any of these major issues even though their chipsets are a little behind.

Ormad said:
I can't believe it either, it was a BIG surprise to see it lacks it. In 2019, ANY and i mean ANY device you buy got a form of CA, even a Huawei MTK I just bought for dad for 99 euros. Of course this is also specified, for example as you can see there is mention for LTE-A (which is LTE+)
https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_5_pro-9801.php
I couldn't believe it so I sent an email to Realme customer service asking if the phone indeed supported LTE-A like specified and like supported by its chipset (snapdragon 712 is a 3*20mhz capable chipset) and they replied "realme 5 pro doesn't support LTE+"
Then, after more than TEN days, they replied again to the same email by saying that they were sorry for the previous reply and that the phone DOES support LTE+ (is this a professional service?)
I asked them how I can check which bands gets aggregated and why there is no sign of a 4g+ or lte+ icons like all other phones and... they never replied
I've read around that Realme support is a total crap, but I really tried and hoped they can answer about specs of a phone they produce and sell directly.
To dig further another guy here on xda sent some network guru screenshots where it is clearly shown that it only can catch a single band and not multiple.
So at this point I'm thinking about it. I've got until 31/01/2020 to be able to get a full refund but kinda I still like the phone speed, but this network problem and the camera (which is the worst 48Mpixel sensor I've ever tried, but it seems to be a software issue) kills my willingness to keep it. I was also waiting if any new update can fix either of the problems so I guess I'll wait a lil more, but still I can't advice to buy this phone. Xiaomi on the same price level doesn't have any of these major issues even though their chipsets are a little behind.
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Wow... Just wow. All these bits and pieces of info are priceless and shocking to me. Thank you. Me too, I prefer the speed of the phone, the battery and ufs file storage, furthermore vooc charging. Amazingly conformable for my hand as well. Overall I'm really in love with it but kind of hate it at the same tine. My major problems are camera and connectivity. Both are extremely crucial when you take a look at a smartphone. Btw even oneplus uses the same sensor as our device. A developer of rm5p guessed that perhaps the difference is using different lens, not the sensors. I'm not sure. Anyway, we know more now at least. It's a start.

waqar bukhari said:
Nice. But in my country mi 9 lite 6gb and realme xt 8gb are similarly priced. If I decides to increase my budget then I will go for realme xt. Sd712 over sd710.
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They are not similarly priced at all, mi 9 lite was on sale for 45,000 which is much cheaper than xt 54,000, sd712 vs sd710 very slight difference but 9 lite has its own advantages such as better selfie cam.
If you are looking to buy mi 9 lite box pack you can contact me, I can get you a good deal.

find x2 pro uk

Hello I need to know if the uk version of x2 pro is dual, or single sim?
Thank you.

koloure2211 said:
Hello I need to know if the uk version of x2 pro is dual, or single sim?
Thank you.
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Hello, it's pretty simple in this case.
512 GB version is available internationally, is single-SIM, has fully working VoLTE and VoWi-Fi, has firmware named PCH and its global ROM is vastly superior to the Chinese one (less bloatware, very little restrictions about customization).
256 GB version is available only in China, is dual-SIM, has neither VoLTE nor VoWi-Fi, has firmware named PDEM and its Chinese ROM has some bloatware and more importantly unpleasant and incovenient restrictions for the user.
Hope that helps
More advanced answer:
Currently there's a battle on two fronts:
users try to flash the much more user-friendly Global ROM on the Chinese device but without success so far; it seems that an unlocked booloader might be required which is still a long way to go
users try to make the Global model work as dual-SIM as it actually physically has a double SIM-card tray so there is a tiny possibility that it's a very weird software limitation (breakable in the future) but I would't have high hopes

Thank you, I want / need dual sim, (work etc) so will probably have to give this a "miss" unless.......

koloure2211 said:
Thank you, I want / need dual sim, (work etc) so will probably have to give this a "miss" unless.......
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No problem, glad I could.. "help".
No one has a clue why Oppo made this limitation, both phones (CPH and PDEM) are identical (hardware-wise), both have dual SIM-card tray but only the Chinese software is capable with working with two SIMs.
The phone is so great I might let go of dual-SIM requirement but I understand it's the decisive factor for many. Oppo has surely cut their profits by doing this and I've never seen anything like this before (phone hardware supporting it but an artificial software change blocking it).

I agree totally, it's ludicrous that this should be the case?
If only they gave users the choice? After all it's £1099 phone, it should be!?

Apparently Clove, (UK) has the dual sim version. Ceramic black only though, at the moment.

koloure2211 said:
Apparently Clove, (UK) has the dual sim version. Ceramic black only though, at the moment.
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It's either a typo (misleading information), or they're offering the Chinese model with Chinese software and 256 GB storage (the latter option is very unlikely).
Remember, technically the phone is always dual-SIM. That might be the source of their information.

I have emailed them for clarification, awaiting reply!

Got the reply!
Hope this helps ?

Just for clarity...

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Got the reply!
Hope this helps ?
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Ok, that sounds strange (or interesting, depending on the point of view). Currently, as the international CPH version of Find X2 Pro doesn't support dual-SIM, there are two possibilities:
- they're still sharing misleading information (deliberately or not) and the phone will be single-SIM
- the phone will come with a brand new version of Global ROM firmware which somehow enables dual-SIM (and which hasn't been released yet), which would give hope to other users of international CPH version.
Hardware-wise the version you're ordering is 99% the same as the ones already released in countries like Netherlands, Germany.

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Got the reply!
Hope this helps ?
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they are wrong. the orange model is a carphone warehouse exclusive. carphone warehouse don't sell locked phones

daindian said:
they are wrong. the orange model is a carphone warehouse exclusive. carphone warehouse don't sell locked phones
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Actually Amazon, (UK) are selling the orange one also.

koloure2211 said:
Actually Amazon, (UK) are selling the orange one also.
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yeh again unlocked. carphone warehouse is the exclusive seller on contract I should of clarified

Yes this is very odd...not sure what game they are playing. Why would the UK get dual SIM, or some specific market. This is driving me nuts.
Maybe I'll contact oppo directly.
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Ok, that sounds strange (or interesting, depending on the point of view). Currently, as the international CPH version of Find X2 Pro doesn't support dual-SIM, there are two possibilities:
- they're still sharing misleading information (deliberately or not) and the phone will be single-SIM
- the phone will come with a brand new version of Global ROM firmware which somehow enables dual-SIM (and which hasn't been released yet), which would give hope to other users of international CPH version.
Hardware-wise the version you're ordering is 99% the same as the ones already released in countries like Netherlands, Germany.
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Killer007TV said:
Ok, that sounds strange (or interesting, depending on the point of view). Currently, as the international CPH version of Find X2 Pro doesn't support dual-SIM, there are two possibilities:
- they're still sharing misleading information (deliberately or not) and the phone will be single-SIM
- the phone will come with a brand new version of Global ROM firmware which somehow enables dual-SIM (and which hasn't been released yet), which would give hope to other users of international CPH version.
Hardware-wise the version you're ordering is 99% the same as the ones already released in countries like Netherlands, Germany.
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I might add, that until this question is clarified? I will not be ordering,
Single SIM?
Dual SIM??
it's just all over the place at the moment??

I thought i posted this here also :
Ok after some research, and reading another post in the forum, i can mostly confirm that there ARE 2025 GLOBAL models with dual sim around. Apparently the Clove is getting the dual sim.
Clove find x2 pro
and i confirm this is correct by going to the UK site of oppo...
Oppo official site
This means that's even crazier than i thought... some markets, even in the EU get the dual sim and others dont....
but just to make you laugh check this out :
Oppo says ALL their phone are dual SIM
koloure2211 said:
I might add, that until this question is clarified? I will not be ordering,
Single SIM?
Dual SIM??
it's just all over the place at the moment??
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Is it a physical dual SIM or SIM and...
e-sim?

koloure2211 said:
Is it a physical dual SIM or SIM and...
e-sim?
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I stand corrected!!! Oppo is really not clear on this.
As this is very WRONG
on the top of their site : it says "dual 5G" which can make one believe that it's dual SIM. But when you scroll down to "network" it clearly says "Single sim".
Uk Oppo site
So why do they mention dual 5G ?(maybe the two 5G (mmWave and the other one).
I sent an email to Oppo asking for some clarfication.
I checked all around the world which markets have dual sim (outside of China) and apparently none have it.
So i'm waiting on feedback from another member who has a 2025 but dual SIM... this is all very confusing.

just to add some more confusion (salt into wounds, so to speak) into this... Amazon UK also claims "dual-sim" in their pre-order for June 10th release. Also Orange version, 12GB 512GB.... sold and dispatched by Amazon... :crying: :fingers-crossed:
I loved this phone in PDEM version but the lockdown of the software made me switch to Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro (plus I can use custom roms). Dual SIM especially since this is band capable for TMobile and Verizon in the states. I love dual sim... if dual sim is confirmed, i'm switching back in a heartbeat... just given the facts though, I think it is sellers typo in their information. Oppo clear states on UK site, CPH2025 model, Single SIM.
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I sent an email to Clove UK and Amazon to clarify their listings for these phones... I'll wait to see reply..

EU model on Verizon?

Hey guys I just bought a OnePlus 8 off Amazon to replace my Pixel 2 XL. However today I noticed it's the EU model IN2013, NA is IN2015, I already knew not to buy IN2010 the Chinese version however I didn't know the US unlocked was a different model because nowhere I looked online mentioned it. I looked at the LTE bands before purchasing it and saw it supports all of Verizons bands (especially the critical band 13) so in theory it should still work right? My fear is when I give them the IMEI to enable CDMA Less on my line they will notice its an EU model that's "not approved on their network" and thus that will prevent it from working even though it supports all their bands.
Now to answer some questions:
Why did I buy this from Amazon instead of OnePlus?
Because it was $100 cheaper and the only way to get the Onyx Black color
Why didn't I buy the Verizon version?
Because it's $100 more expensive than the unlocked and it has a locked bootloader like all of Verizons phones

3mutts said:
Hey guys I just bought a OnePlus 8 off Amazon to replace my Pixel 2 XL. However today I noticed it's the EU model IN2013, NA is IN2015, I already knew not to buy IN2010 the Chinese version
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Because it's $100 more expensive than the unlocked and it has a locked bootloader like all of Verizons phones
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Hi,
I don't think they won't approve your device. I'm living in France so I don't know much about the Verizon Politics about that. But if they have common sense, they won't refuse just because it's not one of their devices, they may lose a lot of customers if they did so. There's a Verizon model to support their 5G, but for LTE it's all good.
In France, no carrier would dare doing that, because everybody buys their phones on internet, already unlocked and stuff...
There's a huge competition between carrier so they won't dare to be so restrictive on who can use their network or not. It'd be like "if you want to give me money, you have to pay me at least 600$+60$/month, who do you think I am, I'm not accepting just 60$ every single month", that makes no sense, only Karens thinks like that.
So LTE is cool, but I can't say that for the Verizon 5G
Hope this helped

I already knew 5g wasnt going to work but I don't care because Verizon uses mmwave 5g and that's not coming to my area any time soon. I just want to make 100% sure LTE works, right now I'm 90% sure but that IMEI thing has me worried, Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (absolute BS imo, if it supports all your bands it should just work). I don't know if they support only the American OnePlus 8 (IN2015) if so that would suck because hardware wise the IN2015 and IN2013 are virtually identical from what I could find with only a few bands missing from the IN2013 but they don't matter for Verizon