Hi total noob here
Like the title says i was wondering why other operating systems like sailfish arent more popular amongst people on this forum or people who are into the modifiing of os for smartphones in generall?
since u can also run adroid apps on it u can stil use it as a daily without sacrificing anything compared to android.
Is there a barrier why there isnt a interest for it forexample is it difficult to program or something ? or people just arent intersted in it?
same for other linux projects that want to put linux os from the computer to the smartphones seems very interessting to me. like update wise.
Looking forward to your reply
Related
Hello,
I been around for some while on this website and tried one and other with my phones, now I have a very complex question bcuz I dont know the ins and outs some of ya`ll might think its silly but please respond with serious feedback as I am very exited about it.
My questions:
Is it possible to install a (example) Iphone Os on a (example) HTC Dream? or other phones/ Os (you get the point)
Where do I need to start, to design and OS? Is that even possible for one person to do?
I have no degrees in making/installing/playing with software.
All I do is in my freetime as a hobby. But I spend about 4 hours a day minimum playing around with my phone and reading the internet about possibilities.
Thank you for your feedback in forward!
Greetz
Dizzy
dizzydix said:
Hello,
I been around for some while on this website and tried one and other with my phones, now I have a very complex question bcuz I dont know the ins and outs some of ya`ll might think its silly but please respond with serious feedback as I am very exited about it.
My questions:
Is it possible to install a (example) Iphone Os on a (example) HTC Dream? or other phones/ Os (you get the point)
Where do I need to start, to design and OS? Is that even possible for one person to do?
I have no degrees in making/installing/playing with software.
All I do is in my freetime as a hobby. But I spend about 4 hours a day minimum playing around with my phone and reading the internet about possibilities.
Thank you for your feedback in forward!
Greetz
Dizzy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hi dizzydix,
so you want to design your own OS? Have Fun! (and a few years of time)
Is that even possible for one person to do
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no, i don't think so!
and now to your original question, whether it's possible to install another OS on your device:
The OS have to be on the mainor partition of your device and is isntalled as your firmware, every device with own OS has it's own drivers that way, so NO it's not possible so far to install another one, MAYBE in a while there can be some ports for some devices, but not now
the_boogyman
"Is it possible to install a (example) Iphone Os on a (example) HTC Dream? "
no not unless you had enough skillz with a hex editor you could put all the correct hw drivers into the iphone image and after that make it into an image which would
be compatible with the wm device
would take as much time as making your own os which would be years even if
you were a good software developer
Rudegar said:
no not unless you had enough skillz with a hex editor you could put all the correct hw drivers into the iphone image and after that make it into an image which would
be compatible with the wm device
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Very, very big mistake... You never programming anything in hex editor!!! No matter is PDA prog or PC prog. Nobody on that world is programing in hex editor. Who plays (at least) with bulding software knows that thing is possible in programming languages. You could only apply patch, crack an so on in a hex editor, but even then you do it based on hex code cpu instructions...
Regarding what dizzydix says I think there is another point of view of the problem. Generally speaking, no manufacturer makes special pieces of hardware for one type of phone (or smartphone).
So, if there is a puzzle of hardware pieces who has hw drivers already developed in another phones why it can't be put togheter in a different one?
More clear... HTC Magic has Android OS. Could it be ported to WM?
This ideea came into my mind right now
Why not??? HW specifications does'n reveals anything special. It seems that HW chips are not different from other WM mobiles...
So what is the solution? Cook a version of WM who contains hw drivers already builded for that chips... You don't need to 'hex editing' drivers but just to adapt existing drivers to your phone.
OK, there are more problems regarding organizing memory...and so on...
You get the ideea...
The problem is very, very complex but not impossible. It's up to your brain!
On Mio A701 a group of smart guys tried to install Linux on it (it cames with WM5.5) based on HTC universal drivers!
Hi
Wow thanx guys,
Its starting to get clear.
MoshPuiu thank you for you clear answer, this is what I have been looking for.
Real nice, explination.
I like the thought: Complex, but not impossible!
Anyways, I was coming across this tought when people tried to port Iphone os to a Hero. Read it somewhere on the net.
So then I tought, maybe I can buy me a remake of an Iphone and then put android on it. (I like the look of the iphone, but the interface sucks..way too boring if you compare Android and WM.
Nevertheless, I like playing around with interfaces, but an OS is a whole other level I understand. I while leave that on the shelf.
Ok so have a good day bye guys!
Dizzy
Good Luck and let us know your progress!
Hello all
first of all , i m new to this forum.
Well i m looking forward to develop a mobile operating system, maybe a small one, with limited functionalities, but i want to get started with my own custom mobile OS,
doesnt matter if it is based on linux kernal or my custom kernal..
i just want to know what do you guys suggest in order to get started and pre requisites for developing an OS, and other related stuff..
because for now, its just an idea to me.
b.t.w i hv stronge grip over C, C#, Java, Php, Little bit of assembly and Microprocessor architecures and other related stuff.. and yeah basic knowledge of OS Designs..
so any help would be very beneficial for me.
looking forward to hear from you soon.
I recommend a visiting an OS developer forum.
Use plain C (gcc) for best results and look up some OS code for machine dependent parts.Try to find out your CPU and get developer manuals and spec updates from the chip manufacturer.You need a lot of time for debugging.
I recommend a visiting an OS developer forum.
will ios or windows will ported in android
So many discussions about this. People say no just cause they think android a better os and has more possibilities, and better customization. All in all, it would most likely be reversed.
Sent from Mount Olympus via Hermes
If you want wm buy the HD2....you got winmo 6.5 and 7, android and other os
I saw that iOS was running on HD2 but im not sure.....but some groups are tryin to put iOS but they need to rewrite all folders and scripts cause its not open-source like android.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk 2
:angel:use BOCHS ...
It can be, because if Android was ported on MeeGo, than why not ios on android?
Had you guys searched you would have learned the answer to this in one of the hundreds of threads about this very subject.
IOS is too closed source as is WP. Want more info then refer to the older threads.
Thread closed
Sent from the Bat Cave
I had great roms for windows phone 7.8 for almost all the windows phone's. now what happen? where all the developers go?
with a custom rom, one can easily incorporate the features that are not available in the region or even for the particular model.
what's the problem here? bootloader's cannot be unlocked? as far as i know, window's is an open source like android. rom development is started with windows mobile and android took it from there and now windows is becoming blind like IOS.
not a very good news. hope windows phone will not die on development only went into hibernation.
jacktackl:) said:
I had great roms for windows phone 7.8 for almost all the windows phone's. now what happen? where all the developers go?
with a custom rom, one can easily incorporate the features that are not available in the region or even for the particular model.
what's the problem here? bootloader's cannot be unlocked? as far as i know, window's is an open source like android. rom development is started with windows mobile and android took it from there and now windows is becoming blind like IOS.
not a very good news. hope windows phone will not die on development only went into hibernation.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, WP7 has old WinCE kernel like all WMs. WP8 has the new WinNT kernel like Win8. We (xda devs) know much more about WinCE things than WinNT, so it wasn't really hard to cook WP7 ROMs, but WP8 is an absolutely new story.
I'm sorry to say this, but WP isn't open source, it's closed source.
Microsoft could help a lot by putting WP under open source, but they won't do that (i think).
I think I've answered your question
Have a nice day m
Hi,
I am due to purchase new smartphone and interested in Maru OS. Most probably I am looking at devices from Xiaomi, Innjoo or Oppo (due to spec-to-cost ratio) depending how much friendly it is for porting Maru OS.
1) Can anyone advise which will be the best device for this purpose? I understand major problem will come due to non-availability / locked bootlooders, drivers and working kernel.
2) Also, I am not experienced in mobile development and not a pro/full-time programmer (but can learn as I have been using Gentoo and Arch Linux, plus studied programming during school days), if anyone experienced can help me in getting started, it will be a good start for me.
Thank you.
EDIT:
Marked 'Useless' ... thanks to everyone for not responding.
^bump
If no one is interested in responding to OP, can anyone point me to how to extract device drivers from stock ROM for use with custom ROM I intend to compile? [I mean use working ROM as a base then customize it for Maru OS adoption].