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Now that the Android P preview is out and we developers start seeing the consequences of the upcoming hidden API remove, i wonder if everyone is fully aware of the profound paradigm shift this will be!?
Going through my app Automate, i can say it will be painful. A lot of common Android features, excepted by users for years, will likely cease to function, or have to be reverted back to buggy behavior.
I expect and accept (my app users will not) that features requiring a rooted device will no longer be accessible, like toggling tethering, NFC, mobile data, etc.
But a lot of harmless hacks will also stop working, and the Play Store is full of innovative apps using them, like audio routing, BT utilities, whatever.
The more dire consequence is for working around current and future bugs. My app is has implemented a lot of workarounds relying on reflection for Android versions going back to 4.0. Even Google does this, like the PRNGFixes a few years ago.
In the future such workarounds may not be possible! Expecting Google to start fixing bugs is a pipe dream. I've report ~30 issues myself, starred 300+, and the majority of them are ignored, or has been flagged "Assigned" for years, "WontFix" or "Obsolete".
The proper solution for preventing use of the hidden APIs are to protect the "dangerous" ones with permissions, not blocking us from accessing them altogether.
We developers are battling Android fragmentation with every new release, often using reflection, so claiming to do this for "Improving Stability" is an insult.
I was hoping XDA developers, and others with influence, could get Google to listen, like with the Accessibility API usage ban.
I don't think a single article, which seems to overlook the serious consequence, will suffice.
Developers need to revolt, or if you've already conseede, at least report your hidden API usage here.
PS. Please, anyone with a rooted Android P, could you help me with some tests?
ballzak said:
I expect and accept (my app users will not) that features requiring a rooted device will no longer be accessible, like toggling tethering, NFC, mobile data, etc.
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Not sure this part is true. According to Quinny899:
"I've just noticed when poking around in P that the warning toast for reflection doesn't fire when the code is run as root
They're not blocking root
That's why my apps still work then"
Let me see what joaomgcd has to say. He's still going through the P release IIRC.
MishaalRahman said:
Not sure this part is true. According to Quinny899:
"I've just noticed when poking around in P that the warning toast for reflection doesn't fire when the code is run as root
They're not blocking root
That's why my apps still work then"
Let me see what joaomgcd has to say. He's still going through the P release IIRC.
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I'm only seeing the warning dialog in debug builds.
Everything still works in my app as well, since Google doesn't enforce the blacklisting yet.
Them excluding root processes gives some encouragement, but the most serious consequence remain.
ballzak said:
I'm only seeing the warning dialog in debug builds.
Everything still works in my app as well, since Google doesn't enforce the blacklisting yet.
Them excluding root processes gives some encouragement, but the most serious consequence remain.
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Yes, I agree with you that this is a serious change. Our very own One-Handed Mode app will cease functioning in the final P release. There's nothing we can really do about that.
MishaalRahman said:
Yes, I agree with you that this is a serious change. Our very own One-Handed Mode app will cease functioning in the final P release. There's nothing we can really do about that.
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That's sad. As i said, there's lots of innovative apps that will be affected.
Hence my wonderment for lack of outrage, we must make Google listen!
ballzak said:
That's sad. As i said, there's lots of innovative apps that will be affected.
Hence my wonderment for lack of outrage, we must make Google listen!
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The problem is that we need developers to be outspoken about what will be broken in their apps because of these changes. If developers are upfront about what will happen, it will encourage users to get involved too. Right now, I only have my own example to share. And you are sharing your example. What are apps will be affected, and how will they be affected? Knowing that is key for getting support on this issue.
MishaalRahman said:
The problem is that we need developers to be outspoken about what will be broken in their apps because of these changes. If developers are upfront about what will happen, it will encourage users to get involved too.
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Let's hope so, that's why i posted.
I fear developers are underestimating the consequences, once Android P goes live, and the blacklist kicks in, it's too late!
Hi there.
I too have this issue regarding some of my app's functionalities. What I'm doing is reporting any hidden API I use here. They seem to respond pretty quickly, at least they did with my last submission.
Did you try that? Thanks!
joaomgcd said:
Hi there.
I too have this issue regarding some of my app's functionalities. What I'm doing is reporting any hidden API I use here. They seem to respond pretty quickly, at least they did with my last submission.
Did you try that? Thanks!
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I've reported 9 requests thus far, no response.
ballzak said:
I've reported 9 requests thus far, no response.
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Interesting. I've reported 2 (one just today) but for the first one I got a response right away. I'm still figuring out how it'll affect my apps exactly.
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Interesting. I've reported 2 (one just today) but for the first one I got a response right away. I'm still figuring out how it'll affect my apps exactly.
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Are you reporting "light graylist", "dark graylist", or both?
I'm currently only reporting the "light graylist" cases, since Google already decided to block the "dark graylist".
What Priority are you reports flagged as, P2 or P3?
I got to contact Google through some other channel if they're ignoring/binning my requests.
ballzak said:
Are you reporting "light gray", "dark gray", or both?
I'm currently only reporting the "light gray" cases, since Google already decided to block the "dark gray".
What Priority are you reports flagged as, P2 or P3?
I got to contact Google through some other channel if they're ignoring/binning my requests.
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I reported one that isn't in those "gray" lists: RCS support. It's assigned a P3 priority.
I added another one (Bluetooth Tethering) which is light gray and is assigned a P3 priority as well.
joaomgcd said:
I reported one that isn't in those "gray" lists: RCS support. It's assigned a P3 priority.
I added another one (Bluetooth Tethering) which is light gray and is assigned a P3 priority as well.
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Just added another request, for a bug workaround, all assigned P3.
Probably wont get a response on this one either. :crying:
Let us know if they ever respond and I'll do the same.
They've responded to another one of my requests now!
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They've responded to another one of my requests now!
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Yey, 3 of 10 requests got a response now.
Seems like the intern on bug tracker duty has awaken. :fingers-crossed:
Did any of the bugs change to a "planned" status or something similar?
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Did any of the bugs change to a "planned" status or something similar?
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No, two lesser issue seems to have been added to a "hotlist".
Enable "Full history" in the upper right corner on an issue page.
Check out a reply to one of my bugs
For future planning, I think we may want to consider some 'device automation' permission bucket.
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All my reported APIs are now "assigned". Seems like good progress.
Hi,
some time ago, I had a functionality in stock camera that estimated your age (see example here). Since the update to MIUI Global 9.6.4.0 (ODGMIFD) the functionality seems to be gone. Any idea if I'm just too stupid to find it? I attached a settings screenshot, hope this helps. This is how I think the camera settings looked like before, with the age detection.
If Xiaomi removed the functionality, any idea why and if it is still on their roadmap?
Here is someone asking the same question about MIUI10.
Also, is it possible that the camera app now stores pictures in DCIM/Camera and not in DCIM directly? And I can't change the storage folder?
Thanks!
Who the hell uses that useless feature anyway??
Great reply, thanks for the valuable input!
No, really - I'm little concerned that Xiaomi removes functions from my device without being transparent about that.
Also, I guess selfie addons are really popular functions for some people just as things like bluetooth audio is completely useless for others.
Hello everyone!
Recently I bought a Redmi S2 (my first Xiaomi) and I was really shocked that there are advertisements just everywhere.
I followed a lot of tips to get rid of this pest but nothing seems to work effectively.
Has anyone found a way to stop MIUI showing ads on this model?
Best regards
Stephan
I updated to the last beta and the ads are no longer a problem
Thank you very much for this hint.
I'll try if it works for me too and give feedback.
there's a slider named "show recommendation" in the built-in apps (xiaomi's) ...make sure it's turned OFF, slider should be greyed when it's off. there'll be less ads shown....
I already hat tried any setting or slider or option.
After all the failures a factory reset and setting up the phone like a new device solved the problem.
Advertisements are gone for now.
Nevertheless Xiaomi is no longer an option for me as I know all these advertisements are built into their MIUI. It seems obvious what future MIUI will have.
Thanks to everyone who tried to help.
A custom rom will help all issues,
*No ads
* A 64bit os
*In built root (lineage os & others)
2816Stephan said:
Hello everyone!
Recently I bought a Redmi S2 (my first Xiaomi) and I was really shocked that there are advertisements just everywhere.
I followed a lot of tips to get rid of this pest but nothing seems to work effectively.
Has anyone found a way to stop MIUI showing ads on this model?
Best regards
Stephan
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Root it and use adblock, if want olay safe without root, flash Xiaomi.Eu
Hello,
Not sure if it's the right place, but I'm getting depressed with my Xiaomi 12 behaviour. Since last update, MIUI global 13.2.4, the phone keeps killing apps, even if I set those with :
- not battery restriction
- auto startup
I tried a factory reset, I unlocked it, rooted it. It keeps killing apps. It's annoying, because I use Vivid and removed the navigation buttons. I let you imagine how I can be stuck sometimes when Vivid is killed. Yet, Vivid is locked... So MIUI regurlaty kills it, and sometimes, it even loses the accessibility autorisation.
How can I know what's killing it ? Obviousily, I'm not in Eco mode, and this behaviour also occurs in performance mode. Everything worked very fine until last update.
Sirguda said:
Hello,
Not sure if it's the right place, but I'm getting depressed with my Xiaomi 12 behaviour. Since last update, MIUI global 13.2.4, the phone keeps killing apps, even if I set those with :
- not battery restriction
- auto startup
I tried a factory reset, I unlocked it, rooted it. It keeps killing apps. It's annoying, because I use Vivid and removed the navigation buttons. I let you imagine how I can be stuck sometimes when Vivid is killed. Yet, Vivid is locked... So MIUI regurlaty kills it, and sometimes, it even loses the accessibility autorisation.
How can I know what's killing it ? Obviousily, I'm not in Eco mode, and this behaviour also occurs in performance mode. Everything worked very fine until last update.
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Maybe a bug in the rom which is a stable beta.
The ROM is official, it's been deployed in France last week.
Sirguda said:
The ROM is official, it's been deployed in France last week.
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And so, Xiaomi has been deploying beta roms on stable channels for a long time.
Xiaomi 12 EEAStable BetaRecoveryV13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM13.04.8 GB2022-12-01
If it worked before this update, you have the answer.
NOSS8 said:
And so, Xiaomi has been deploying beta roms on stable channels for a long time.
Xiaomi 12 EEAStable BetaRecoveryV13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM13.04.8 GB2022-12-01
If it worked before this update, you have the answer.
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OTA update for an entire country are with beta ? If so, this is a joke. How can I report this to Xiaomi ?
Sirguda said:
OTA update for an entire country are with beta ? If so, this is a joke. How can I report this to Xiaomi ?
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You are not the only one to have had problems following updates, the solution if it worked before, is to flash the previous rom or to use a Xiaomi EU rom.
Sometimes Xiaomi renames a Stable Beta to stable without fixing anything.
NOSS8 said:
You are not the only one to have had problems following updates, the solution if it worked before, is to flash the previous rom or to use a Xiaomi EU rom.
Sometimes Xiaomi renames a Stable Beta to stable without fixing anything.
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Previous ROM is in Android 12. Downgrading won't be a problem ? Keeps root ? EU Roms seem far behind.
Sirguda said:
Previous ROM is in Android 12. Downgrading won't be a problem ? Keeps root ?
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Downgrading requires a clean flash and the root is lost along with your data.
Use this tool:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/flash-tool-guide-use-xiaomi-flash-tool.4262425/
And disable the update.
EDIT:
I use a Xiaomi EU rom on my 12 pro and I have several apps that must remain in the background, works very well.
With a Xiaomi EU rom you will have the certified play store without root and lots of extra options.
This is happening to me also and many other people. Fun times waking up to find that your alarm clock hasn't gone off because it was killed in the background.
There doesn't seem to be a workaround yet. There's several posts on the mi.com forums regarding it:
Xiaomi Community
new.c.mi.com
People there have discussed making a bug report via the feedback app (Settings->"Services & Feedback") might garner some support for Xiaomi to fix the issue... one can only hope.
All I can say is if you're thing of updating to V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM OTA then DONT! Teach me to apply an update without checking on it first.
bunklebeard said:
This is happening to me also and many other people. Fun times waking up to find that your alarm clock hasn't gone off because it was killed in the background.
There doesn't seem to be a workaround yet. There's several posts on the mi.com forums regarding it:
Xiaomi Community
new.c.mi.com
People there have discussed making a bug report via the feedback app (Settings->"Services & Feedback") might garner some support for Xiaomi to fix the issue... one can only hope.
All I can say is if you're thing of updating to V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM OTA then DONT! Teach me to apply an update without checking on it first.
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Go to this site if you need anything, the updates with beta roms on the stable channel do not date from today, many threads on this subject have been created without change since today the problem persists.
Reporting bugs via Services & Feedback hasn't changed anything either.
Note that since the redesign of their site, important threads have disappeared and even some devices.
As a reminder, it is the moderators of this site who report information, well that's just theory because in practice, nothing happens.
If you want answers from Xiaomi, tell them you want to buy a new phone because that's what they're interested in, selling.
I tell you this because at a certain time, I was active on this site, but some of my posts were deleted because I explained how to solve or work around the problem.
Sometimes by checking the hash of a beta rom and the following stable, it was the same.
The solution is to unlock the bootloader and downgrade or install a Xiaomi EU rom.
bunklebeard said:
This is happening to me also and many other people. Fun times waking up to find that your alarm clock hasn't gone off because it was killed in the background.
There doesn't seem to be a workaround yet. There's several posts on the mi.com forums regarding it:
Xiaomi Community
new.c.mi.com
People there have discussed making a bug report via the feedback app (Settings->"Services & Feedback") might garner some support for Xiaomi to fix the issue... one can only hope.
All I can say is if you're thing of updating to V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM OTA then DONT! Teach me to apply an update without checking on it first.
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I'm kind of relieved that's I'm not the only one with this issue. For sure I dont take a xiaomi anymore. I had doubt about MIUI, and gesture unavailable with 3rd party launcher + this killing app bug, makes me regret not have taken a Samsung S22.
" I had doubt about MIUI, and gesture una aimable with 3rd party launcher"
Xiaomi blocks this function with third-party apps (not new).
NOSS8 said:
" I had doubt about MIUI, and gesture una aimable with 3rd party launcher"
Xiaomi blocks this function with third-party apps (not new).
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Not new, but it's a detail you have trouble knowing before buying. With Vivid Gesture, I was plainly satisfied, but this new bug is really frustrating.
Regarding "Xiaomi EU rom", how well tested is it? Do they have an issue tracker and a list of known bugs?
I've rooted and flashed community ROMs in the past only to find out they are poorly tested / have horrible QA and although superficially they work fine other aspects didn't like Bluetooth, Android Auto or certain camera modes etc.
It has been a while though since I last attempted one, maybe things have moved on since then?
Xiaomi has removed so much of the Google framework that even push notifications isn't working. Take note that the Global ROM is based on the CN variant which is known for aggressive background killing of apps.
In Xiaomi's defense, they are "freeing up" up to 800mb of your internal storage by removing most of Google's API but in the expense of all the issues encountered by Global ROM users.
So if anyone is interested, I'm trying to see if disabling com.miui.powerkeeper works round this issue of background apps being killed in V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM .
I followed this tutorial:
How to disable any pre-installed system app bloatware on Android without root
If you hate the bloatware or pre-installed apps on your Android smartphone, here's how to disable them even if Android doesn't normally let you.
www.xda-developers.com
Will report back if I notice any improvement.
Maybe someone more knowledgable might be able to tell me if there are any downside to disabling this package?
I am suffering the exact same problem with my device since the 13.2.4 update, what i nightmare to use the device since then ! As the other users already reported, it s even killing the alarm app which prevents it to ring ! But it also impacts all app notifications, like whatsapp, outlook, etc. After being killed I don't get the new notifications for those.
I can't believe that they are pushing such an update globally, they are gonna lose a lot of customers which such a poor strategy, as this is not just a "little" bug.
I am interested in the Xiaomi.EU rom, looks like they released one 2 days ago with version number 13.2.6, but I have to investigate if we can install that over our official version on an original EU device, and if it requires a full data wipe or not.
kalhimeo said:
I am suffering the exact same problem with my device since the 13.2.4 update, what i nightmare to use the device since then ! As the other users already reported, it s even killing the alarm app which prevents it to ring ! But it also impacts all app notifications, like whatsapp, outlook, etc. After being killed I don't get the new notifications for those.
I can't believe that they are pushing such an update globally, they are gonna lose a lot of customers which such a poor strategy, as this is not just a "little" bug.
I am interested in the Xiaomi.EU rom, looks like they released one 2 days ago with version number 13.2.6, but I have to investigate if we can install that over our official version on an original EU device, and if it requires a full data wipe or not.
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Welcome to XIAOMI.
You can check below the version of the rom proposed for the update, before performing it.
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/archive/miui/cupid/
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You can either update the rom with the update.bat file included in the Fastboot.zip folder but since it is an A13 version, it is preferable to format the data with the first install.bat file .
Obviously the bootloader must be unlocked.
Also remove the security from the lock screen and restart the system.
Hello. I have exactly the same problem. I just bought the phone, after a week I got that update and it made me completely regret that I bought it. Is there any "clean" way to return to the version of MIUI I bought the phone with?
Would a reset return me to the old version? Since i got almost nothing important in the phone, it wouldnt be a big deal.
zazajin said:
Hello. I have exactly the same problem. I just bought the phone, after a week I got that update and it made me completely regret that I bought it. Is there any "clean" way to return to the version of MIUI I bought the phone with?
Would a reset return me to the old version? Since i got almost nothing important in the phone, it wouldnt be a big deal.
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Bootloader must be Unlocked.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/miui-keeps-killing-apps.4529641/post-87852189
Most people seem fairly happy with the stock pixel user experience, after all a main reason we purchase pixels is because of it's software.
in your experience, is there any benefit to any of the currently available custom roms that would increase performance and battery? I mean something bigger than just customisability and tinkering
I've been debating this too. I haven't rooted a device in 4 years. No real reason to anymore. I'm on the fence because I'm hoping for a true blackout theme and better animation transitions on a custom rom. Haven't pulled the trigger yet.
Performance, efficiency, and control over fast more than what Google chooses to provide.
ctfrommn said:
Performance, efficiency, and control over fast more than what Google chooses to provide.
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What roms are you referring to?
It has been scientifically proven that running custom kernels and/or roms helps to minimize E.D.
Mainly battery life. I have to charge my phone once every 1-1.5 weeks or so, vs every or every other day like most people.
*Keeping the screen brightness only as bright as you need it (i.e. not ecessively set or maxxed out--I keep mine around 1/4 maybe touch more, on the brightness slider.
smokejumper76 said:
I have to charge my phone once every 1-1.5 weeks or so
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Bruh, do you even use your phone at all? What ROM makes such a huge difference for your use to extend your battery life from 1 day to over 7 days?
fix-this! said:
What roms are you referring to?
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Literally any?
GrapheneOS gets rid of all Google Services, thus (and overall) it's a lot more privacy-focused.
Performance isn't a huge issue on Pixel devices (imo), because the ROM they come with isn't super bloated, but you can always just use LineageOS, or any other barebones ROM if you don't need any fancy features, only sleek (slick?) performance.
I have always been a fan of ResurrectionRemix/crDroid, which are filled with TONS of features. Sure, depending on who you are, you might not care for most/some of them (double tapping on statusbar to lock the screen, changing the animation of quick settings tiles when you tap on them, blinking the flashlight when you receive a call, and many, many other small things).
Nowadays, even ROMs like this aren't hogging up your performance or ruin your battery life.
Besides flashing custom ROMs, rooting is still useful for me.
Yeah, getting SafetyNet to pass can be a bit of a hassle, but in exchange I get to use ACC to prolong my battery's health, I can get rid of the navbar pill, and I can use an lsposed module to disable secure flag in my transportation app, so I can take a screenshot of my ticket (should the inspector come when there's no cellular connection (and the app doesn't properly cache the ticket, because of great programming )).
None of these are deal-breakers, but as long as there's still an option for doing these, I wouldn't want to miss out.
Radjah2001 said:
in your experience, is there any benefit to any of the currently available custom roms that would increase performance and battery? I mean something bigger than just customisability and tinkering
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Battery life and performance is pretty good as is. The stock rom on Pixels isn't super bloated, so it's not like it has much of an effect on battery or the performance of your phone. With the stock kernel I lost about 0.6% of battery every hour overnight, with MVK kernel that number got reduced to about 0.4%. Does it make a difference? Not at all.
I guess you could root and use a kernel manager to downclock the CPU to gain some extra SoT, but that's about it. If you're not much of a tinkerer, and content with your current setup, there's no real reason to switch to something else.
Lada333 said:
Bruh, do you even use your phone at all? What ROM makes such a huge difference for your use to extend your battery life from 1 day to over 7 days?
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Not really. I have no friends. <s>
I'll use it outside/on road but even then, phone conversations and internet browsing is not very much. Here and there, etc. Mostly texts or instant msgs.But calls here and there. I have it set to charge max 75% and will recharge when it gets to around 20%. Running LineageOS w/ the kernel it comes with it. Nothing fancy. I don't use any social media app (or social media or that matter), so I don't have to worry about that stuff draining the battery. WiFI and/or VPN will so I tend to keep them turned off until I need them. If I used phone more regularly, I could see myself having to recharge it maybe every 3-4 days maybe, I dunno.
Battery life can actually be worse on custom ROMs that do not have Google Play Services. When an app uses Play Svcs to handle push notifications, things like notification pushes get are managed and batched together by Play Services. If a phone does not have Play Svcs, apps that use cloud notifications may have to register their own persistent polling services which can chew up battery. And then you have to disable battery optimization for that app so it doesn't get dozed.
I've at least heard anecdotal evidence that battery life suffers on GrapheneOS because of this. Say, if you have an email client and messaging apps that require a persistent polling service to look for new messages.
Nowadays when I look up reasons to use ROMs or root, I get annoyed when articles list modules or features that serve to fix the issues that the act of making these changes cause (eg- hide root from other apps, force apps to doze, magisk bootloop saver, etc). I mean now you're spending the time managing the problem you've created for yourself. It's silly. Unless there are practical reasons to customize, I see no compelling reason to do so.
jawz101 said:
Battery life can actually be worse on custom ROMs that do not have Google Play Services. When an app uses Play Svcs to handle push notifications, things like notification pushes get are managed and batched together by Play Services. If a phone does not have Play Svcs, apps that use cloud notifications may have to register their own persistent polling services which can chew up battery. And then you have to disable battery optimization for that app so it doesn't get dozed.
I've at least heard anecdotal evidence that battery life suffers on GrapheneOS because of this. Say, if you have an email client and messaging apps that require a persistent polling service to look for new messages.
Nowadays when I look up reasons to use ROMs or root, I get annoyed when articles list modules or features that serve to fix the issues that the act of making these changes cause (eg- hide root from other apps, force apps to doze, magisk bootloop saver, etc). I mean now you're spending the time managing the problem you've created for yourself. It's silly. Unless there are practical reasons to customize, I see no compelling reason to do so.
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Very well said. I've been thinking the same. Google does there optimizations pretty well and they have given even more options to even tinker with a lil more effecient as per your need. There's no need to go out of the way replace the whole rom. even if you do you should have a very good reason and it should have some very noticable difference that can be seen to any one... Though i always have a soft corner for the modding community. Because of their push oems are stepping up their game.
Interesting. I do have Gapps installed and regarding polling the servers, while I myself haven't had battery drain, I can definitely attest to custom roms possibly messing with polling. On my old M8 (which also had Lineage), if the phone was on standby for a long time, I would not get ANY text or IMs unless I turned on the screen, THEN I'd get a bunch of messages. Or even if the phone was on, I would have to send a text message to myself and then I'd get a bunch back from people. So, yes at least on that phone there was serious polling issues I opened myself up with.
Currently I am on the newer phone(s), which I don't experience those issues, but you are absolutely right about them.
smokejumper76 said:
if the phone was on standby for a long time, I would not get ANY text or IMs unless I turned on the screen, THEN I'd get a bunch of messages.
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I've also experienced that issue on my 3T running.. any custom ROM, basically. I think it's mostly fixed on newer ROMs though. YMMV.
Radjah2001 said:
Most people seem fairly happy with the stock pixel user experience, after all a main reason we purchase pixels is because of it's software.
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Speak for yourself. I bought pixel for the HARDWARE, and specifically the fact that it isn't crippled (locked) and is properly supported in AOSP. The factory prebuilt software is utter trash with one purpose and one purpose ONLY: To track everything you do.
In order to safely use the hardware, it is NECESSARY to wipe the spyware from it. Either build AOSP from source yourself, or use a security focused distribution like GrapheneOS.
Lada333 said:
Besides flashing custom ROMs, rooting is still useful for me.
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Add possibly Viper4Android on A13 some day and its perfect.
Safetynet / play integrity & hide root is pretty easy on stock, but did you have success on custom Roms?
My banking app doesnt even rely on Safetynet / play integrity and checks for root itself, but shamiko takes care of that, but I suspect it would detect a custom Rom and refuse to work.
An entire Rom would probably much harder to hide than just root.
G5-User7080 said:
Add possibly Viper4Android
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Never really saw the need/use for v4a.
G5-User7080 said:
Safetynet / play integrity & hide root is pretty easy on stock, but did you have success on custom Roms?
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Sure. Never had issues. Besides adding my banking apps to the DenyList, I also had to hide the Magisk app. What I've found is that some apps may look for the Magisk app being installed on your device (you don't even necessarily need to be rooted, just have Magisk installed).
Love the warped perspective a few posts up. Reminder to all on the risks of oxygen deprivation at birth
Lada333 said:
Never really saw the need/use for v4a.
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I really hope someone finds out how to make it work on A13 soon, luckily my music app has an eq so its not like it sounds bad, but what I mostly miss is replay gain ig, when I'm outside music with a wider dynamic range is a bit of a problem, the quieter parts just drown in the outside noise.
Sure. Never had issues. Besides adding my banking apps to the DenyList, I also had to hide the Magisk app. What I've found is that some apps may look for the Magisk app being installed on your device (you don't even necessarily need to be rooted, just have Magisk installed).
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yes, mine do, hideMyApplist takes care of that, for some reason when I hide magisk App, it gets picket up by AppListDetector (well not by my banking app at least).
I kinda wanna try a custom ROM but flashing an entire new ROM is a lot scarier than just rooting stock, like some apps might not be working cause they rely on google services etc, maybe when I buy a new phone in a few years and this one doesnt get updates anymore I could try that.
DB126 said:
Love the warped perspective a few posts up. Reminder to all on the risks of oxygen deprivation at birth
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With all the scandals involving big tech all the time, do you really wonder why people distrust google & co?
In the end it's probably never as bad as you fear and never as good as you hope.
A13 has some nice privacy protecting features built in, like Android System Intelligence all happens on device, then again, gboard, google app, etc don't, ig u get a little bit of everything.
You can never be completely private, and for that reason some of my friends say "Well then it doesn't matter anyway, just know everything about me idc" and some others be like "ill just stop using all their services alltogether"
In the end everyone can do what they want cant they?
G5-User7080 said:
like some apps might not be working cause they rely on google services etc
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um, so?
Even if the ROM of your choice doesn't come with GApps preinstalled, you can always just sideload MindTheGapps.