convert micro USB to USB C and add a larger battery - General Questions and Answers

Ok, I have a realme 1 that is dying, I have posted on the new phone thread but I do not expect to get a phone that meets my needs better in all aspects.
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The issue is that the micro USB connector is getting worn down and the battery discharges in a few hours. Even new I used to have days on which my battery 3950mAH would be exhausted by the end of the day.
I want to do the following thing
Replace the micro USB port with a USB C port. physically my phone is a plastic fantastic and I plan to carve/shave out the few mm with a knife/scalpel and fill any voids with a combination of expoy putty and expoxy glue. My problem is how to do the internal wiring. I have done some soldering but nothing on a PCB. The most fine work I have done is patch speaker wires. Every repair person i have talked to says that it is absolutely impossible to do. I would appreciate it if someone could walk me through it.
Realme has now released phones with a 6000 mAH battery, So I propose to separate the back cover, carve any obstructions, create any posts needed with epoxy putty, and fix the battery with hot glue. Again the problem is the connections. I realize that the thickness of the phone will increase due to this and plan to fill the gap with epoxy and hot glue.
Yes, I realize that my phone is going to be a Frankenstein's monster. As long it works well I don't care.
I would appreciate it if someone could guide me

amartsg852 said:
Ok, I have a realme 1 that is dying, I have posted on the new phone thread but I do not expect to get a phone that meets my needs better in all aspects.
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The issue is that the micro USB connector is getting worn down and the battery discharges in a few hours. Even new I used to have days on which my battery 3950mAH would be exhausted by the end of the day.
I want to do the following thing
Replace the micro USB port with a USB C port. physically my phone is a plastic fantastic and I plan to carve/shave out the few mm with a knife/scalpel and fill any voids with a combination of expoy putty and expoxy glue. My problem is how to do the internal wiring. I have done some soldering but nothing on a PCB. The most fine work I have done is patch speaker wires. Every repair person i have talked to says that it is absolutely impossible to do. I would appreciate it if someone could walk me through it.
Realme has now released phones with a 6000 mAH battery, So I propose to separate the back cover, carve any obstructions, create any posts needed with epoxy putty, and fix the battery with hot glue. Again the problem is the connections. I realize that the thickness of the phone will increase due to this and plan to fill the gap with epoxy and hot glue.
Yes, I realize that my phone is going to be a Frankenstein's monster. As long it works well I don't care.
I would appreciate it if someone could guide me
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You know you can get a USB C chip for really cheap (compatible with the processor)? All youd have to do then is attach the ribbon cables, enlarge the port hole and test to see if power passes through with a cable. Make sure not to use too much glue, however, because when the phone heats up the glue may melt and run over the motherboard, resulting in a ruined phone.

Varis2X21 said:
You know you can get a USB C chip for really cheap (compatible with the processor)? All youd have to do then is attach the ribbon cables, enlarge the port hole and test to see if power passes through with a cable. Make sure not to use too much glue, however, because when the phone heats up the glue may melt and run over the motherboard, resulting in a ruined phone.
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I was already prepared to enlarge the opening, please tell me about this chip. where Can i find more information on that?

amartsg852 said:
I was already prepared to enlarge the opening, please tell me about this chip. where Can i find more information on that?
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There is actually a YouTuber that I conveniently forgot the name of... But he does DIY projects like this, like adding a headphone jack to iPhone 7s and stuff. Call if modding. But his parts come from Chinese marketplaces. I would suggest you research a USB C component chip. Not sure how old your phone is but they are basically universal depending on the OS supported hardware (like Android 9+ supporting QC3.0).

Thank you again for replying. I do not need quick charge. It came with 2A 10 W chip, and that's enough. Cannot I connect the USB C port to the input on my phone. Most USB C implementations are USB 2.0, SO that SHOULD be 4 pins and 5v at max 2 A.
Problem is that that the repair centers are assuring me that is not the case.

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USB connection, wear and tear

So after so many flashes of custom roms, kernels, modem, and etc.
Are you guys finding it harder for the micro-usb connector to actually get a tight fit into the phone? Mine's so loose that the slightest tug or movement will disconnect it from powering or connecting to my PC.
I slighlty fixed it with needle nose pliers , a more efficient fix anyone?
Im having the same issue
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Definitely noticed this too. I notice my usb cord after a minute of being plugged looks like it's coming out a little.
I actually don't have this issue. I don't know how much you guys flash but I am doing something daily beyond just charging. I don't move my phone around much when it is plugged in.
On my phone, thin plastic piece around the usb port is cracked and i sometimes confuse that with the sliding usb door and tries to close it until i looked down to notice that it's not the door that i'm trying to close
I've noticed this recently too (I've had mine since July). On mine, when holding the phone normally, if I push the cable toward the center of the phone and it comes loose. If I push it outward (toward the volume buttons), it doesn't really move.
If I open the usb door all the way, plug the cable in, then close the door *slightly*, it holds the cable a lot better. Not like it did when it was new though.
Has anyone diagnosed the cause of this yet?
Xstop said:
I slighlty fixed it with needle nose pliers , a more efficient fix anyone?
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What exactly did you do? I was a little hesitant to try bend anything - I didn't want to make things worse.
tdogz said:
-What exactly did you do? I was a little hesitant to try bend anything - I didn't want to make things worse.
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Actually I do not recommend doing it this way until other means are available, remember, ruin your usb connection = your screwed.
But it's the sides of the usb connection I'm trying to tighten up. Where it forms / \
Mines so loose, that if I do a simple reboot and move the wires too much it will give me the: ! to android guy pic.
If it's becoming loose its due to the plastic bezel around mini usb port. Eventually it will crack at where the door hinge has to pass through the part just before the door becomes secure when set to open position. Not sure if it's a plastic quality problem with a certain batch just order a replacement.
Secondly the usb cord supplied is not flexible at the handle for the miniusb connector. Flex it to much you will dislodge the data + - wires. Took it apart and inspected. You'll need to resolder to fix it.
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If it's becoming loose its due to the plastic bezel around mini usb port. Eventually it will crack at where the door hinge has to pass through the part just before the door becomes secure when set to open position. Not sure if it's a plastic quality problem with a certain batch just order a replacement.
Secondly the usb cord supplied is not flexible at the handle for the miniusb connector. Flex it to much you will dislodge the data + - wires. Took it apart and inspected. You'll need to resolder to fix it.
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Thanks for that post
I have a question though: When you say order a replacement, do you mean a new phone or the little plastic bay that holds the charger?
I also bought this phone at launch, and I'm sure that means I am out of any kind of warranty.
UNLESS!
Is there a year warranty on hardware defects?
You're still under warranty (1 year). You'll have to deal with a AT&T DSC for replacement.
norcal einstein said:
You're still under warranty (1 year). You'll have to deal with a AT&T DSC for replacement.
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So does that mean I should back up with Titanium Backup and flash back to stock?
cracks
My cappy has 2 tiny cracks on the top of it. One where you posted ( between the charging port and the back of the phone ) and another between the headphone jack and the back of the phone. They are so small no one would notice them unless looking. Returning the phone would be too much of a hassle for me ( I'm lazy ).
My idea was if the plastic began to chip or crack anywhere else I would just buy a bodyglove case and voila - no more cracks. And I didn't have to talk with an AT&Tard to fix it.
daleaf said:
So does that mean I should back up with Titanium Backup and flash back to stock?
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If you actually have physical damage to your USB port to warrant a replacement phone, yes...I'd say flash back to stock.
If you're trying to address any problems you have with the USB slider door, I doubt they'll replace your phone. You'll probably have to have it sent in to Samsung for repair, and shipped back to you. Of course if your phone goes to Samsung, you had better flash stock.
norcal einstein said:
If you actually have physical damage to your USB port to warrant a replacement phone, yes...I'd say flash back to stock.
If you're trying to address any problems you have with the USB slider door, I doubt they'll replace your phone. You'll probably have to have it sent in to Samsung for repair, and shipped back to you. Of course if your phone goes to Samsung, you had better flash stock.
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It's not the slider door. That is broken now too, but it isn't a problem for me. It is the USB cord won't stay in the charing port anymore. It is a bit of a hassle to wake up in the morning and my phone didn't charge.
For each usb wire that I use, I am now gently crimping the top and bottom of the usb connector to get a tighter fit. DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK THOUGH
It seemed to help me to get a tighter fit and now I don't have to check if the sucker is charging or not.
But yea, I was at the point where it would not charge my phone if I did not get it right, sucks I know.
Xstop said:
For each usb wire that I use, I am now gently crimping the top and bottom of the usb connector to get a tighter fit. DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK THOUGH
It seemed to help me to get a tighter fit and now I don't have to check if the sucker is charging or not.
But yea, I was at the point where it would not charge my phone if I did not get it right, sucks I know.
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^^^I also did that and it helps^^^
And, on the usb wires I use, there are little prongs, or tabs, that I gently pulled up with a tiny flathead screwdriver, actually a clean razor blade worked better... But I pulled those tabs up, and now I have a pretty snug fit.
And of course, do that at your own risk.
I started having this issue too where the lightest touch on the sides would bump it loose from the connector. In my case though I noticed that I did not have the door open completely all the way (yeah DUH). Once I pushed it completely open it fit much better.
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So after so many flashes of custom roms, kernels, modem, and etc.
Are you guys finding it harder for the micro-usb connector to actually get a tight fit into the phone? Mine's so loose that the slightest tug or movement will disconnect it from powering or connecting to my PC.
I slighlty fixed it with needle nose pliers , a more efficient fix anyone?
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I have flashed a lot and my phone is repeatedly connected and disconnected from USB at my desk all day at work and my usb still fits snug. But about 2 weeks ago the little plastic sliding door started sticking as I was opening and closing it and yesterday it finally just fell out of my cappy. Bought on release day last July.
I had this problem too, but it was the cable, not the phone.
Got a new OEM cable off of Amazon, and now it's nice and snug. Maybe not 100% like new, but pretty close.
Because of the little metal hooks on them, Micro USB cables tend to wear out much faster than the Mini USB cables of old.
I swapped mine out last week for another refurb (number two) because of this. It got to the point that I had to make sure the cable was in precisely the right spot otherwise out wouldn't charge.
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XOOM 2 Battery Problems and Bypass Fix needed

Hi
I have major problem with my tablet and usb socket has been pried from board have taken a quick look at damage and a replacement or solder of new one is out of question and metal contacts on pcb has been damaged also.
I am wondering if anyone knows a way of bypassing so I can still charge.
Can I bypass the small circuit board where USB connector is and hard wire battery connections directly onto USB itself.
This tablet has always served me so well dont want to give up on it just yet as cant afford a new one.
Fairly confident with soldering etc just curious as to whether it will work and best way to wire it up

Golden battery holder wire is cut. Need to turn on for recovery

Hi guys. This is gonna sound awkward. I'm having issues in my personal life and I was talking on whatsapp with brother when I got angry and threw my nexus. the screen is broken like colors and stuff and lines so I tries to turn the phone off by touching where the power off button appears on screen butI couldn't.
since I was angry I removed the back cover and cut the golden wire at the bottom point where it turn. I've tried turning it on by holding the cut ends but no luck. tried charger too but nope. All I wanna do is get into recovery somehow (TWRP) and dump my internal storage.
Thank you.
After some thought about your description.... I wonder if you have actually cut the main ribbon cable from the microphone/speakers/USB assembly this is the one that runs down the side of your phone. your best bet will be to purchase another cable assembly.. since you are dealing with a multi conductor ribbon cable.
I really doubt that you will be able to repair and re-connect the cable without some pretty highly skilled soldering ability.
The battery cable is very short and comes directly out of the battery itself... it is not likely that you actually cut it but did cut the main circuit cable. Too Bad, but this will be a real problem for a repair.
no joy... but you might want to investigate a reputable repair shop.
paultbear said:
After some thought about your description.... I wonder if you have actually cut the main ribbon cable from the microphone/speakers/USB assembly this is the one that runs down the side of your phone. your best bet will be to purchase another cable assembly.. since you are dealing with a multi conductor ribbon cable.
I really doubt that you will be able to repair and re-connect the cable without some pretty highly skilled soldering ability.
The battery cable is very short and comes directly out of the battery itself... it is not likely that you actually cut it but did cut the main circuit cable. Too Bad, but this will be a real problem for a repair.
no joy... but you might want to investigate a reputable repair shop.
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Thanks so much for replying. Yes indeed I cut the ribbon cable. I'm in no position of buying a new one. I guess I'm gonna take it to someone with high soldering skill. Before that I'm gonna try tape too
Xami said:
Thanks so much for replying. Yes indeed I cut the ribbon cable. I'm in no position of buying a new one. I guess I'm gonna take it to someone with high soldering skill. Before that I'm gonna try tape too
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Question: if this ribbon isn't battery wire then why the phone doesn't start
main connection cable ( do NOT cut)
Xami said:
Question: if this ribbon isn't battery wire then why the phone doesn't start
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That ribbon cable is the one that interconnects the working boards in your phone, Microphone, Speakers, buttons. Unlike the battery cable you probably won't be able to fix it... it is pretty much a replacement only part.
this part is called -- LG Nexus 5 D820 D821 Charging Port Flex Cable Dock Connector USB Port With Mic Microphone Flex Cable Repair Part (amazon.com)
you will have to source a supplier close to you... but the good news is that it is relatively inexpensive... Ebay has it listed for $10USD or so.
not trying to be the bearer of bad tidings... but I've spent 20 odd years repairing computers and associated devices. It is always best if you don't cut ribbon cables.

Blu Pure XL Replaceable Parts? (USB Port)

Hello everyone, I've been looking for 2 days now on Parts for the Blu Pure XL (Gionee Elife E8) and I've came up with nothing...
I have a damaged USB Port and I know this cause I've tried every charger in my home and I've cracked it open to take a look and the prongs that connect it to the board are bent. If anyone could give me a source that sells Blu Pure XL parts that would be incredibly helpful!
Please reply URGENTLY.......
DJLinx said:
Hello everyone, I've been looking for 2 days now on Parts for the Blu Pure XL (Gionee Elife E8) and I've came up with nothing...
I have a damaged USB Port and I know this cause I've tried every charger in my home and I've cracked it open to take a look and the prongs that connect it to the board are bent. If anyone could give me a source that sells Blu Pure XL parts that would be incredibly helpful!
Please reply URGENTLY.......
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Just my thought, but aren't microUSB ports just... microUSB ports? It's not like the ports on different devices differs physically from others. You can use any microUSB cable on any phone with a microUSB port, can't you?
As for replacement parts, I'm not an expert on electronics (perhaps you're more knowledgeable than me), but can't you just swap in any new female microUSB port (or maybe even a USB Type C port, if you have the knowledge and if it fits)?
I'm not sure how the microUSB port is hooked up since I don't have the guts to open up my own Pure XL, but can't you unsolder/cut off your old port and solder in a new one (provided you have the knowledge)?
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Short Circuit said:
Just my thought, but aren't microUSB ports just... microUSB ports? It's not like the ports on different devices differs physically from others. You can use any microUSB cable on any phone with a microUSB port, can't you?
As for replacement parts, I'm not an expert on electronics (perhaps you're more knowledgeable than me), but can't you just swap in any new female microUSB port (or maybe even a USB Type C port, if you have the knowledge and if it fits)?
I'm not sure how the microUSB port is hooked up since I don't have the guts to open up my own Pure XL, but can't you unsolder/cut off your old port and solder in a new one (provided you have the knowledge)?
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MicroUSB ports are not just... MicroUSB ports, there are different types of pin variations (But all are 4 pins) to fit certain types of boards.
I never thought of actually replacing the USB Port. It might actually work, but I'm a little hesitant since I paid $350 for my phone.
Thank you for the reply back and I will try this. By the way, USB Type-C has 24 pins and a MicroUSB has 4; it's possible to use the USB-C, but Id only be able to charge my phone and it would take QC capability away from my phone. If anyone could direct me to the actual PCB Board with the USB and the Speakers for the Blu Pure XL that would be awesome! (Until then I guess this solution will have to do.)
Crude Solution, but works.
So what I did what get into my phone and remove the Non-Removable Battery, spliced an old microUSB cable and connected the Red & Black wires to the P+ & P- of the Lithium Ion Battery. Seems to charge the phone fast, bust remember to keep an eye on it and to not let it overheat... Here is a picture of the outcome: http://imgur.com/98Zolef
DJLinx said:
MicroUSB ports are not just... MicroUSB ports, there are different types of pin variations (But all are 4 pins) to fit certain types of boards.
I never thought of actually replacing the USB Port. It might actually work, but I'm a little hesitant since I paid $350 for my phone.
Thank you for the reply back and I will try this. By the way, USB Type-C has 24 pins and a MicroUSB has 4; it's possible to use the USB-C, but Id only be able to charge my phone and it would take QC capability away from my phone. If anyone could direct me to the actual PCB Board with the USB and the Speakers for the Blu Pure XL that would be awesome! (Until then I guess this solution will have to do.)
Crude Solution, but works.
So what I did what get into my phone and remove the Non-Removable Battery, spliced an old microUSB cable and connected the Red & Black wires to the P+ & P- of the Lithium Ion Battery. Seems to charge the phone fast, bust remember to keep an eye on it and to not let it overheat... Here is a picture of the outcome: http://imgur.com/98Zolef
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Having the same problem but for mine it seems like the metal connector on the outside protrudes whenever I plug a cable into the port... pretty loose by the looks of it.
Methinks I might see if BLU can fix it though.
Ashalinia said:
Having the same problem but for mine it seems like the metal connector on the outside protrudes whenever I plug a cable into the port... pretty loose by the looks of it.
Methinks I might see if BLU can fix it though.
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did you contact BLU?
were they any help?
my phone will only charge if the plug is held at a specific angle.
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sensorsweep said:
did you contact BLU?
were they any help?
my phone will only charge if the plug is held at a specific angle.
Sent from my PURE XL using XDA-Developers mobile app
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They weren't able to fix it so they sent me a new Energy XL instead. Slightly inferior specs but battery is outstanding.
Also ported CM 12.1 rather easily to it. But yeah, you're either going to have to fix it yourself or get a replacement Energy XL (they might allow you to get a Pure XR as well, not sure.)
Not to dredge up a old thread; But I still need a charge board for my pure xl; I posted something months ago; and shelved the phone until recently; and I would love to find a source of parts for this.
hi
guys blupohoneparts now has the usb pcb is arround 27 dlls with shipping
i got mine there
jelo1 said:
guys blupohoneparts now has the usb pcb is arround 27 dlls with shipping
i got mine there
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I got mine from betterdeals4u.com (email [email protected]) for 19.99 shipped...
finally after several months!
Hate to bring up an old post but can anyone direct me to a "how to" on installing a new usb pcb? I've disassembled my phone and it seems the only solder point is the lower left hand portion.. I don't see any way of disconnecting otherwise. Ought I un-solder whatever it may be? or is there another method. Sorry btw.
x_dread_x said:
Hate to bring up an old post but can anyone direct me to a "how to" on installing a new usb pcb? I've disassembled my phone and it seems the only solder point is the lower left hand portion.. I don't see any way of disconnecting otherwise. Ought I un-solder whatever it may be? or is there another method. Sorry btw.
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I'll take some pics, but honestly if you cant tell the disconnection points (they are VERY obvious on this phone)
then maybe you should hand this repair off to someone more experienced...
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Does the USB PCB also have the rear speaker on it aswell?
mutation101 said:
Does the USB PCB also have the rear speaker on it aswell?
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no, speakers are part of the back panel, it does drive the speakers though, the just are not attached to the board (spring connections)
tbirdguy said:
no, speakers are part of the back panel, it does drive the speakers though, the just are not attached to the board (spring connections)
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Thanks for your reply, do you know where to get the panel, as my speakers are shot.
Thanks
M
mutation101 said:
Thanks for your reply, do you know where to get the panel, as my speakers are shot.
Thanks
M
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I haven't seen it anywhere; but maybe try taking it apart and checking to see if the spring connections are making good contact...
So what is that big round thing the two wires are going to? My soldering skills aren't the greatest, so I want to make sure I'm not totally screwed if that's not connected.
Ogre6473 said:
So what is that big round thing the two wires are going to? My soldering skills aren't the greatest, so I want to make sure I'm not totally screwed if that's not connected.
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Its the vibrator motor
All these boards seem to be out of stock
All the replacement USB pcba boards seem to be out of stock. I tried to purchase a USB port to replace the USB with but it's really difficult. Anyone know of a place I could buy the USB pcba board that has them in stock?
Replacement PCBA with USB
I also see it sold out at both Better deals and Blu phone parts.
I am asking (Allview) support in Europe but I don't hold much hope. Anyone else found these anywhere?
I bought mine in AliExpress but I think is out of stock. I found it as" Gionee s8 loud speaker "and the PCB from bluphoneparts

Micro USB caused short in Fire 10 HD 9th

Fire HD 10 Tablet (64 GB) Without Lockscreen Ads (2019 Release)
Been using and loving Fire Toolbox since January 2020 or 2021.
I had an old micro-USB port wire connected to my computer. I still use it for a music player. I couldn't remember if it was my usb-c for my newer devices (wasn't wearing my glasses), so I tried to plug it into my Fire 10 HD to see if it fit.
I might have pushed a little bit, but not with any force. But my Kindle will not turn on. Tried various combinations of buttons I read about to restart, reboot, etc.
Can old micro-USB cord cause a short if pressed into a USB-c device? The answer must be yes.
What are my options? Thanks
Will someone send me a Darwin Award cap. I'm willing to wear it around my house for a few days.
Figure out what was damaged. Inspect C port for damage. Replace C port pcb if this is an option. May have damaged the mobo...
It seems like I should be seeing more posts from a few years ago where people damaged usb-c devices trying to plug them into micro-usb chargers. And it wan not a force thing; it was a soft but firm, is this the right charger press.
It also seems like this would have been accounted for when the usb-c was designed, making it so that the previous standard, if used by accident, would not damage anything.
I am not able to see any damage. Maybe a magnifying glass will help.
I'm not sure if there is a tech repair section on the forum here, or if it is mostly software and mods.
If I search for a cheap, used, replacement, 32GB with adds, for example, is there any way to swap out internal parts and make it 64GB no adds.
Is there anything salvageable inside?
Thanks
Use a bright led flashlight or sunlight and a magnifying aid of some type.
That's a mistake I never made. Inserting a micro usb upside down... yes, well. C ports are more robust as well.
The C port can be replace but it requires a skilled tech as that mobo mounted one can easily be damaged from inept desoldering attempts. Most Samsung phones use a separate C port daughter pcb so no need to solder to replace it.
A local tech shop might do it for $30-50, the part itself is like $2.35

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