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Returned To Stock-Rooted.. Is This The Perfect Blend?

I've Tried All The Major Custom ROM Players..
You know their names.
And for the most part.. they were "Glitch-Free" and fairly stable.
Lots of goodies to play with and adjust.. even one offering the "Pure" Experience.. for those that want it Bare-Boned.
And.. even though they were bloat-free, light in weight and smooth.. there were still complaints about this not working or that not working.. or, users asking if they could have Gestures working as smoothly as Stock.. both Camera lenses functioning etc.. etc.. :crying:
It's in EVERY thread.
I'd been mixing and matching so many Kernel's and ROM's trying to achieve... what?
That's when I decided to Re-Encrypt my software throw on 9.5.17.. and Re-Root the darn thing..
A Fresh Start..
Not only has everything been scrubbed clean.. but battery ( Greenified ) Smoothness ( Nova-Prime ) Customization ( Themes ) all really work better than I remembered.
Even with the bloat.. ( I could remove it.. ) everything transistions just as fast as it did with the customs.
I Can Always Go Back.. to C-ROM's and my Anti ( 3 ) is not an issue.. but,
I really don't see a need to.. Stock-Rooted ( IMO ) offers the best Stability / Customization Combo for the XRN5 / Pro.

For most people including me, it's just being close to raw aosp.
I admire the smoothness of miui edge gestures and some goodies that miui brings. But other than that, i just can't stand the ugly side of it, like why an oem will show ads when i download something with stock browser? I know i can use other browsers, but why would mi do that? Did i got the phone for free? So, they put ads to monetize?!
It's good that now i see threads for debloating miui easily but i don't see myself going back to miui anytime soon. Even now that mia2 Cam's been ported and working quite smoothly, i see no reason to go back.
Btw, it's just personal preference. And if stability is what's someone looking for, they should go stock. But it also can be achieved from aosp roms, no doubt. Highly depends on user and how/what they use it for. I have no major problems with the roms I've tried so far.
Aosip, havoc, dotos, now bootleggers. Aosip is the most perfect solution for me.
Cheers.

Understood..
Tisckkytt said:
For most people including me, it's just being close to raw aosp.
I admire the smoothness of miui edge gestures and some goodies that miui brings. i just can't stand the ugly side of it, like why an oem will show ads when i download something with stock browser? I know i can use other browsers, but why would mi do that?
Btw, it's just personal preference.
Aosip, havoc, dotos, now bootleggers. Aosip is the most perfect solution for me.
Cheers.
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Great Post..
Can't disagree with your opinion..
I have no issues either way as far as browsing is concerned.. even without the use of Adaway Rooted or Non-Rooted variants.
MIUI got the Gestures right... that's for sure. The Customs can't touch MIUI Smoothness and Sensitivity levels.
And Batterylife for me is 13% ( tested ) better going factory fresh as well.
Thank Goodness there is a road for each of us to get to our destination! :highfive:
Cheers.

Been there, done that. I remember the good old days when stock ROMs sucked big time. Not so long ago, I pretty much threw MIUI into oblivion on my RN3 because performance was sub-par. Now, it's a completely different world in which I find myself at home when using Oreo-based MIUI 9 and even 10.
All I need these days is the latest stable Android release, Magisk (+ a couple Modules), Nova Launcher, my apps and I'm good to go.
Gone are the days when I tweaked and tweaked the hell out the HW and SW to get decent performance.

I totally agree with the OP. I tried few of the major custom roms and while they were mostly bug free and stable, oreo based stock miui 9 and 10 beta is simply awesome. Miui 10 beta is giving me the best battery life and the most smooth performance, even with tons of bloatware.

Yeah this is the setup I have used since I got this phone. Stock os is stable and fast. Haven't tried any custom Roms yet . If things go south in miui 10 only then will i switch to other roms

I am waiting to get my bootloader unlocked and want to root stock.
Will I be able to OTA upgrade without losing root? Or what's the process here.

Wish there was a tweaked, debloated, zip aligned stock rom..

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I too think miui is better suited for our device.. btw how to get greenify working on stock miui?

rohanvaja said:
I too think miui is better suited for our device.. btw how to get greenify working on stock miui?
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Do you really need greenify with miui? It has some background and memory management itself, i think greenify is more suited for AOSP LOS etc. But thats just my opinion.

rohanvaja said:
I too think miui is better suited for our device.. btw how to get greenify working on stock miui?
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I agree what Incogn said. MIUI doesn't need Greenify as it is pretty aggressive. But if you want it there is a Magisk module you can download from Magisk Manager itself. It makes Greenify perform way better like it works with Xposed.

jaidev.s said:
Wish there was a tweaked, debloated, zip aligned stock rom..
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Farhadul Haque said:
I totally agree with the OP. I tried few of the major custom roms and while they were mostly bug free and stable, oreo based stock miui 9 and 10 beta is simply awesome. Miui 10 beta is giving me the best battery life and the most smooth performance, even with tons of bloatware.
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Can u suggest me miui 9 or 10 with anti 3 for good battery and pubg

I am using the same setup of stock miui 10 and magisk root can anyone please suggest me a kernel with wireguard support and good performance and battery life for miui

Why u want a chinese spy rom? Every custom rom is better than miui.

RheinPirat said:
Why u want a chinese spy rom? Every custom rom is better than miui.
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Can you point me to a custom ROM which has everything including front and back camera working flawlessly?

deathbearer said:
Can you point me to a custom ROM which has everything including front and back camera working flawlessly?
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Every single rom has back and front camera working. It's the Google camera, that's still partially broken. Use Mi A2 port and everything is going to be fine
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RheinPirat said:
Why u want a chinese spy rom? Every custom rom is better than miui.
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If its spy rom and you are concerned why are you using google apps? The biggest data stealers there are. Im quite sure you also use facebook, so hipocricy here is very high. Even if it was spy rom(which is utter nonsense), they cant steal anything from you that google or facebook already didnt.
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Every single rom has back and front camera working. It's the Google camera, that's still partially broken. Use Mi A2 port and everything is going to be fine
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Stock custom rom camera compared to stock miui SUCKS. Gcam doesnt work on global, and Mi A2 port has 50 pages of user reported bugs, so no, its quite far from fine if you want stability.

Incogn said:
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Stock custom rom camera compared to stock miui SUCKS. Gcam doesnt work on global, and Mi A2 port has 50 pages of user reported bugs, so no, its quite far from fine if you want stability.
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Mi A2 Port works without any Problem on Resurrection Remix 2018.07.23

is general gsi roms good enough

is general gsi roms good enough for our device or is it better to wait for specific rom that is well modified for our device??? In other words is there any general gsi rom that is good enough and has major hardware parts working (camera, wifi, hotspot, brightness, bluetooth... Etc) ???
Thanks

Has anyone tried Havoc OS ROM ?

Generally speaking they're good enough to use assuming you can get them installed on you phone. I was using Phh's unofficial Ressurection Remix Rom for a while, and the biggest issue I had was the fingerprint sensor acting as a mouse button when the screen was on. Otherwise everything was very smooth and worked like what I expected them too. Battery life might have been a bit worse than it was on MIUI. I've had similar results on all of Phh's ROMs, although I haven't really tried images from too many other developers.
Installing them can be a struggle. It seems like half of the time I try to flash one I need to wipe everything on the phone to get it to work, but other times I can flash them with no issues. That's not specific to GSI images though. I've probably wiped my phone (system and storage contents) half a dozen times because I accidentally soft bricked my phone trying to flash something. That's probably more user error more than anything else.
I have also never been able to get gapps to flash on a GSI ROM. I've always had to use ones with them built in.
I ended up going back to MIUI because the GCam mod wasn't working properly, and a large reason for buying the phone was for the camera. I'll probably go back to Treble images once the major ROMs start releasing Pie variants, assuming we don't get some native ROMs first.

Anyone else get a trebble rom to work yet?

merlin21 said:
Anyone else get a trebble rom to work yet?
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I flashed a lot of them. Most have bugs as you can imagine e but that's not the rom's or devs fault.
I had installed
Official Resurrection ReMix
Phh treble AOSP
Pixel Experience version 8.1 and 9
Polaris Pixel experience
Google extended
All with similar bugs/features. The 8.1 versions work pretty well, the pie versions have all the same bugs. But they are daily driver material in my opinion if you can do without some functions. Some of them have enough no working camera, others have trouble with NFC and bluetooth.
Others have distorted sounds (which can be easily fixed).
Just browse the treble development thread and find out what fits best for you.
I'm using pixel experience official 8.1 and 9 unofficial (on two separate MiMix2S) and so far it works for me.
I think the best by now is the official 8.1 PE rom. Most of the things I'm using do work really well. Now I'm eagerly waiting for the Polaris Pixel Experience Pie rom...hope it will arrive soon.
I think we own a not very popular device so devs are rare but there are some of them doing a great job and working on those issues. Maybe some could donate some bucks like I did to keep them motivated and show some appreciation for their hard work.

I've had the best experience with the Benzo 9.0 ROM.

How is the camera on GSI roms? One of the reasons I updated from the mix 2 to the mix 2s was for the camera.
Is it comparable to MIUI?, or total ****?

I am using the AOSP 9.0 rom by @phhusson: https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases
Apart from the camera, I'm not aware of any known issues. Bluetooth, NFC, Sound and Calling issues have all been resolved (thank you very much @phhusson). I guess there are other issues I did not hit yet
The camera app I use is from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...ed-p-mix2s-t3838406/post77529938#post77529938
Its possible to take good pictures (without color issues) but some feature like HDR, portrait don't work.
As a base for this rom, I use the most current global beta from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-mix-2s/how-to/miui-based-android-9-pie-t3826402

Firipu said:
How is the camera on GSI roms? One of the reasons I updated from the mix 2 to the mix 2s was for the camera.
Is it comparable to MIUI?, or total ****?
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It's definitely a step down.

Guys check this out!
http://en.miui.com/thread-4114962-1-1.html
I think I should try it!
Any1 tried it? Please confirm if so

jouid33 said:
Guys check this out!
http://en.miui.com/thread-4114962-1-1.html
I think I should try it!
Any1 tried it? Please confirm if so
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So it's basically a link to a ROM we already know...or is there any device specific features included?
If it's the aosp ROM by phhusson it's stock Android and works smooth but lacks some features IMHO. Nothing fancy but a great leap forward in treble development. Great guy developing good and stable roms.

jouid33 said:
is general gsi roms good enough for our device or is it better to wait for specific rom that is well modified for our device??? In other words is there any general gsi rom that is good enough and has major hardware parts working (camera, wifi, hotspot, brightness, bluetooth... Etc) ???
Thanks
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Install this and be a happy little camper:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...pie-testing-pixel-experience-polaris-t3855036
Using it as my daily driver now. Almost all bugs sorted out that bothered me with the gsi images.

kleinholzinferno said:
Install this and be a happy little camper:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...pie-testing-pixel-experience-polaris-t3855036
Using it as my daily driver now. Almost all bugs sorted out that bothered me with the gsi images.
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Thanks for sharing ill sure try it out

guys check this out!
https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=polaris

jouid33 said:
guys check this out!
https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=polaris
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Please anyone willing to try it give us feedback of how stable is it and what is not working

jouid33 said:
Please anyone willing to try it give us feedback of how stable is it and what is not working
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Why don't you try it for yourself and report how it's working? I'm interested too, maybe this has some features I could use.

kleinholzinferno said:
Why don't you try it for yourself and report how it's working? I'm interested too, maybe this has some features I could use.
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Im seeing that they are updating it daily so i said ill wait 1 week and then try it.

Which rom is the most popular? (Poll)

I was wondering what the most popular ROM was and in general what are ROM usage stats.
Currently I've been using CrDroid but I keep eyeing other ROMs so this might help me jump ship and try something new

Why are there not a choice of Arrow OS, maintained by lovely @TH779 ? It's stable and updates frequently, and it has been on the top of roms forums recently. I strongly condemn this behavior of ignoring contributions of some hardworking maintainers.

It wasn't the point to ignore any rom, I tried to add as many as I could but this was the limit allowed. Can't add anymore

GameNCode said:
It wasn't the point to ignore any rom, I tried to add as many as I could but this was the limit allowed. Can't add anymore
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Jan 17, 2021 at 2:04 PM
MSM Xtended rom has been discontinued

Pixel experience, too. There isn't a public LTS copy of PE now.

Msmx here. I know about is discontinued, but for me the 5th January build is perfect.

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Jan 17, 2021 at 2:04 PM
MSM Xtended rom has been discontinued
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Pixel experience, too. There isn't a public LTS copy of PE now.
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Should I remove both and add Arrow OS?
Edit: NVM can't change the poll

I do love LineageOS and it's so much easier to spell than when it was called cyanogenmod. Though I always found the lack of customizations a let down, such as just battery bar settings and back button kill among other things. I found CrDroid is basically similar, but has these options built in along with signature spoofing that LineageOS doesn't have either. So I've stuck wit CrDroid lately and it's been great

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I do love LineageOS and it's so much easier to spell than when it was called cyanogenmod. Though I always found the lack of customizations a let down, such as just battery bar settings and back button kill among other things. I found CrDroid is basically similar, but has these options built in along with signature spoofing that LineageOS doesn't have either. So I've stuck wit CrDroid lately and it's been great
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ANCIENT OS have more options especially AOD brigtness setting(like MS EXTENTED).

As I was already on MiUi 12 Android 11 on Stock until I unlocked the bootloader, previously, so I was only looking for a stable A11 AOSP based ROMs.
I literally kicked the tyres on every one of them here and...
Forgetting the subjective, personal, opinion-based customisation & theming, things I have to say that...
Ancient ROM is head & shoulders above everything else here in terms of stability, the usual custom-rom bugs, things not working etc.
In all honesty, I've found Ancient Official to be more stable & bug-free than stock MiUi 12(Although that's not hard is it?!)
I've always been a happy user of RR or Havoc on most of my devices for many years & been flashing custom roms almost 10yrs, if that helps getting my perspective, but most of the ROMs on herefor our device(even official)have been a bit of a mess frankly...
By all means if you want, kick the tyres like I did, but I wouldn't waste your time.
My only quibble is that, currently, Ancient only comes with GAPPS pre-installed & there's no Vanilla version, so I had a bit of de-bloating to do after flashing...

Question Which is the best performance roms for OP 9?

I wonder what is the best room for performance in OP9 even optimization?

There is not a huge difference it's all personal preference.

Stock rom

Debloated OOS and some magisk mod tweaks.

I've tested custom rom my choice is Syberia

Stock or AOSPA imo

OOS

*Syberia is the most customisable and so far seems very snappy.
*Elytra OS The most aesthetic UI and fast kernel
These two ROMs are my choice for #bestROM.
*Pixel extended is the perfect Google experience
*CRDroid is also another one worth mentioning and the Dev is very friendly.
*Stag OS was the first 13 rom and is very stable also
*lineage OS is the most basic Custom rom and easy to flash.

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*Syberia is the most customisable and so far seems very snappy.
*Elytra OS The most aesthetic UI and fast kernel
These two ROMs are my choice for #bestROM.
*Pixel extended is the perfect Google experience
*CRDroid is also another one worth mentioning and the Dev is very friendly.
*Stag OS was the first 13 rom and is very stable also
*lineage OS is the most basic Custom rom and easy to flash.
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thank you!

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There is not a huge difference it's all personal preference.
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Exactly this. They're all pretty great.
For A12, any ROM with OOSCAM and a current security update is amazing.
For A13, ElytraOS is very impressive, and the maintainer is very active in what feedback is given. StagOS As well, but that maintainer is/was supporting A12 and 13 while ElytraOS came in on A13, so has just had more time to focus just on it. Both are great.
And now with Syberia (one of my favorite OP6 roms) on the scene, It seems you literally can't pick incorrectly, all are winners.
All my issues have always come from incorrect OOS update prior to flashing a ROM (see: PEBKAC), Android and/or its various changes itself effecting the Apps I use itself or an underlining bug that's from lineage (that all start with as a base, at least on every OP devices I've run with an android OS) that's out of the maintainers control.
For now, I'm back on Pixel Experience A12, but will return to A13 ROMs once it matures a little further and apps stabilize on it (preferably one with Google AI call screening enabled by default.)
I'd also take note of the few ROMs that offer vanilla builds that allow you to manage your own exposure to GApps, or none at all (ex: CRDroid)

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OOS
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OOS13 is so damn beautiful but hate the idea of trying to root, remove bloat/spyware, optimize it all while in Beta.
I need to try it at least once for a week or so.

nothing beats the stability of OOS.
i use some filming ang photography apps. i have tested these apps with most of the popular custom roms. the apps develop issues that do not happen in OOS.

jmadiaga said:
nothing beats the stability of OOS.
i use some filming ang photography apps. i have tested these apps with most of the popular custom roms. the apps develop issues that do not happen in OOS.
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im not saying you are wrong (im not you, im a nobody), but i would assume this is a place where the majority would probably disagree with that, lol.

applyscience said:
im not saying you are wrong (im not you, im a nobody), but i would assume this is a place where the majority would probably disagree with that, lol.
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ikr
but i can only spek fom my experience.

General Best Custom Rom for Pixel 6a

Hello there people of XDA, below, I've compiled a list of the best custom roms with GAPPS from my experience of flashing roms the past few months. If there are any roms I've missed, let me know. I probably won't try them all though. As for what rom I'm currently using, it would be stock android. The custom roms for this phone still seem like they're all in Alpha stage. Yes, the customization is great, but I can get similar options using root. It's hard for me to flash roms over and over for a update. I would come back only when the roms have all matured, and when an update can be done over OTA. (EvolutionX has OTA, the other roms, I'm not so sure.)
RisingOS: It's basically the only rom so far that I've found that actually works with Google Pay, but currently it seems like it's still in alpha or beta stage due to the amount of bugs so far. But it runs fine, and the battery drain isn't too much. I will revisit this rom in the future, when the bugs get ironed out.
EvolutionX: I mean, it's stable... but battery life takes a huge hit. I don't know if the kernel is overclocked or what is going on, but the phone gets warm (99-105F) with light usage (30mins on youtube). Would only recommend if you're a gamer and want the best FPS out of games, since you seem to get better sustained performance with this rom.
Project Elixir: It's basically EvolutionX, but with less customization features, and the battery drain isn't high. I would daily drive this rom, if Google Pay worked. But like EvolutionX, I can set it, but it'll have me re-add my card over and over. (Revisiting this Rom reveals that apps like Facebook and Instagram has issues 6/24/23)
DerpFest Tango: This rom is basically stock android with some tweaks. I joined the Telegram and it seemed dead, but it's a decent rom. It seems like battery life is similar to stock, and the phone runs fine. Google Pay seems broken for me though.
StagOS: Has a lot of customization options, and not a large userbase. Similar to DerpFest Tango, the Telegram seems dead, and Google Pay is broken for me.​

Not on your list, I've been pretty happy with LineageOS since it went Official. OTA works, but can be slow to install.
Far from perfect, but suits my (minimalist) needs with NeoLauncher.

Which ROM has the unlimited google photos?

Used all the above roms and they are all pretty solid. My daily driver and go-to if I don't like how a certain rom works I the Velocity Rom-Maxium Velocity kernel. He was on xda up till about 6 months ago but now he's on telegram.
Good features but no fluff - speedy as hell - battery standby is great and no heat to speak of. Comes preloaded with root so you just download magisk and that's it. Really good rom.

You should try out LineageOS and crDroid. Those 2 roms are the best ones I've tried so far. As for Gpay/Google Wallet, I got it working with most of the custom roms I've tried. You just have to use "safetynet v2.3.1-MOD_3.0."
LineageOS doesn't come with GAPPS but it includes instructions on how to flash it.

The unofficial build of risingOS 1.0 ran great for me, but when trying to switch to the official version, it wouldn't flash the product partition.
Generally, I carry 2 phones. One with GAPPS as some stuff requires it, and one without (the phone I use the most). Pixel has gapps, oneplus 8t has microG. Overall, any rom I'd recommend on the 6a, its either rising or lineageOS. If you want customization, go crDroid

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Most roms have it baked in. Project Elixir (enabled by default), Evolution X, and RisingOS. As for the other two, I used them for a week and I didn't see a toggle.

TechIngest said:
Most roms have it baked in. Project Elixir (enabled by default), Evolution X, and RisingOS. As for the other two, I used them for a week and I didn't see a toggle.
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Its also not very hard to add it to a rom. There's a Magisk Plugin for it