Question ANT+ support missing?! - Samsung Galaxy S21+

Hello,
I just received my new S21+ and transferred all data and applications to it. All good, but when I tried to start ANT+ connectivity... to my dismalness, I noticed that support seems to be missing:
ANT Tester reports that built-in ANT was NOT detected, so it's missing built-in firmware or ANT HAL service (!!!) And yes, I do have installed ANT Radio service and ANT+ plugins.
Anyone else can see that? This is a complete deal braker for me, as I use my phone often to connect to cycling sensors.

Hola
You are not alone. Sammy removed Ant+ support on the S21 series. I am into home cycling as well and I am now forced to change a few of my monitors to Bluetooth. Luckily my Tacx smart trainer supports Bluetooth and Ant+, if that wasn't the case I too would have been mad.
It took me a while to find out about this as it is not clearly articulated online about this missing feature.

Damn, that's pretty disappointing. Yes, I have sensors with Bluetooth support, but it's finicky when I switch between PC (for Zwift) BT and my phone BT. It works better when I'm able to use PC BT and phone ANT+. Oh well.

catastrat said:
Hello,
I just received my new S21+ and transferred all data and applications to it. All good, but when I tried to start ANT+ connectivity... to my dismalness, I noticed that support seems to be missing:
ANT Tester reports that built-in ANT was NOT detected, so it's missing built-in firmware or ANT HAL service (!!!) And yes, I do have installed ANT Radio service and ANT+ plugins.
Anyone else can see that? This is a complete deal braker for me, as I use my phone often to connect to cycling sensors.
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Hi
I have an S20 FE and there's no ANT + here either.
From what I've read because there is no HAL service.
however the phone is listed on the ANT website as being compatible.
I've tweeted and messaged Samsung , Google and Android developers but had no reply.
Same as you I use my phone with Cycling apps so it's really annoying.

I was planning to add custom rom support for S21 devices and while looking into firmware, I found, all stuff related to ANT was removed.(I was looking s21 ultra firmware specifically) So probably it's been removed from s21 devices

You *should* be able to use your Ant+ devices *IF* you plug an OTG USB dongle into your phone, and then plug an Ant+ dongle in it.
I used to use my Poco F1 for my rides outdoor, with my Ant+ devices (powemeter, cadence, HR monitor) when it was under Android 8.x. Since I upgraded it to Android 9.x, then Android 10.x, Ant+ is not enabled anymore. The trick with OTG/Ant+, works.

kennygwood said:
Hi
I have an S20 FE and there's no ANT + here either.
From what I've read because there is no HAL service.
however the phone is listed on the ANT website as being compatible.
I've tweeted and messaged Samsung , Google and Android developers but had no reply.
Same as you I use my phone with Cycling apps so it's really annoying.
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New S20FE owner here.
One of the reasons (but not the only reason!) I picked the S20FE was most mobile phone spec websites (GSM arena etc..) list the S20FE as including ANT+!
Checking again the ANT certified list they ONLY mention certified:
"Meet Galaxy S20, S20+ and S20 Ultra."
Not the FE!!
And also checking samsung.com for the specs; under Connectivity; S20 clearly states ANT+ YES - BUT this is missing in the S20FE and all the later S21 series phones!
I imagine of the millions of phones sold - actual ANT+ users are a small %! shame.

Samsung appear to have dropped Ant+
I now have a newer S21 plus 5g (so not an FE version) and Ant+ doesn't appear.
I can now do wahat I need, use a cycling smart trainer and HR monitor, using bluetooth.

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[Q] Possibility of ANT+ via USb OTG?

I currently have the Samsung Galaxy S2 which supports USB OTG, I'm trying to figure out a way to enable ANT+ for fitness apps. Their are several USB adapters such as the Suunto Movestick Mini. I was thinking I could hook up this usb stick and enable ANT+. Does anyone know if this is possible? I currently have ICS installed.
Has anyone done this on other USB OTG enabled phones?
anyone know of anything?
ANT+ via USB OTG
There was an officail anouncment about this from the ANT people the other day. With a siutable phone it should be now possible. I have made a release of my IpBike app today which in theory should work but I don't have a suitable device to test with so would be very interested in anyone getting it to work.
I would put some suitble linkes here but it looks like I can not. I have added some details to iforpowell.com
ifor said:
There was an officail anouncment about this from the ANT people the other day. With a siutable phone it should be now possible. I have made a release of my IpBike app today which in theory should work but I don't have a suitable device to test with so would be very interested in anyone getting it to work.
I would put some suitble linkes here but it looks like I can not. I have added some details to iforpowell.com
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I've just upgraded my SGS2 to ICS and connected a Suunto Movestick Mini Ant+ adapter using an USB OTG cable in order to be able to use my fitness sensors (HR belt and speed/cadence sensors from Garmin) and it works like a charm thanks to the great softwares created by ifor.
But be careful because after rooting my phone the new kernel was unable to handle the ANT USB driver and therefor it stopped working. After a few attempts i found that using a Siyah kernel (currently v4.0.1) will restore the ability to use again my Ant adapter and sensors.

[Q] Bluetooth stack vs samsung

Afternoon all.
I love my N5 and am keen to stick with it - however I have an issue with Bluetooth.
I am a keen runner and user a Garmin Forerunner 220 GPS. This has the ability to pair with a Garmin app using BTLE to transfer run data. However, Garmin are saying that there are underlying issues with the N5 implementation of BTLE that makes this unreliable - resulting in a need to re-pair the devices in the app everytime I turn BT off, or reboot the phone. Due to where I work, I have to do this every day and its a pain!
More details here: https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?75976-Compatible-Devices
and some of the reasons for the issues here (I was pointed to this link by Garmin in the thread above): http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/533189/20140107/nexus-5-7-android-4-kitkat.htm#.UxCieF5yFvY
So my question.... is there a ROM available that would give me the same underlying bluetooth stack as the Samsung phones that Garmin declare as compatible (S3/S4, Note2/Note3) ? Would this mean trying to put a pre-KitKat ROM onto the N5 (is this even possible?), or is there a KitKat based ROM that has the same underlying bluetooth stack as the Samsung devices ?
(ps I'm happy flashing ROMs etc. The Samsung devices I have had in the past had a different ROM most weeks! N5 is currently stock but unlocked and rooted).

Bluetooth issue (Nikon SnapBridge)

Hello all.
I use Nikon SnapBridge to control my Nikon DSLR.
It connects over Bluetooth from within the app.
It does not add a paired device in android itself.
The problem i have when pairing is after accepting the security keys on the Camera and the S7.
After that the name of the camera dissapears and connection fails from that point.
At first i thought it might be an issue with compatibility because its not one of the most stable apps out there.
But when trying it on my friends stock s7 it worked.
Is there any thing i can do to fix this or am i overseeing something?
mine started doing this after the nougat update, I suspect there is an issue with how nikon creates the connection in snapbridge that no longer works in nougat
yesterday I updated my Note 5 from 6.0.1 to 7.0 and can confirm that the snapbridge app is not longer connecting with the phone. after checking the pairing code on both devices the app stops with pairing failed while the cam D5600 still thinks everything is alright. hope there is an app fix soon.
greets
Timo
It does the same thing on my LG G6. The reviews for SnapBridge are dreadful. I have not been able to make it work at all with a couple of different android devices. And based on reviews online, the app is basically a failure.
Ok same here with galaxy s8. Still no solution?
Nikon snapbridge is fixed. Finally
KhaosDrone said:
Hello all.
I use Nikon SnapBridge to control my Nikon DSLR.
They updated the firm ware to 1.12. This worked and fixed all the issues I was having
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Bluetooth Issue
KhaosDrone said:
Hello all.
I use Nikon SnapBridge to control my Nikon DSLR.
It connects over Bluetooth from within the app.
It does not add a paired device in android itself.
The problem i have when pairing is after accepting the security keys on the Camera and the S7.
After that the name of the camera dissapears and connection fails from that point.
At first i thought it might be an issue with compatibility because its not one of the most stable apps out there.
But when trying it on my friends stock s7 it worked.
Is there any thing i can do to fix this or am i overseeing something?
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Hey can you try doing what I did with my problem and see if it works? That is, disabling the Google App. Let me know if it did something.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/google-app-causing-problems-galaxy-s7-t3632503
Hey guys,
I know this thread was originally focusing on issues with snapbridge and Bluetooth, but I am wondering if anyone knows if Snapbridge doesn't support wifi on Android Nougat? Phone is Note 8.
I can't get my camera to connect over wifi at all. Every time I try to connect Nikon D5600 to wifi I get "this option is not available at current settings or in cameras current state." I tried updated camera to firmware 1.02 because it said it had some Android fixes but so far I still get that same error.
Thanks in advance.
I just bought a d850 and at first attempt to connect snapbridge, phone, and camera, it worked on my s7 however after 20 min it completely dropped the wifi not the Bluetooth. I pain stakenly tried to reconnect wifi but was unsuccessful. At this point it was time for an upgrade so I got the S9+ and the app did the same exact thing, no wifi, only Bluetooth. The odd thing is that it works on my Asus tablet and worked at first connection on the s7. I am left baffled and would like to enjoy full res and remote control with phone to my d850. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do?

problem android auto ...

Good morning to all, first of all I introduce myself to you. My name is Juan Manuel, I live in Buenos Aires Argentina and I work in a NOC of a telecommunications company.
The reason for my consultation is as follows. I honestly don't know what to do anymore.
I have a Pioneer AVH-Z5050TV stereo and a Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Plus Cellphone. And there is no way to run Android Auto properly since I bought both computers. No one gives me a single answer. Neither Samsung, nor Pioneer, nor Google.
When I connect the cell phone via USB cable to the stereo it lifts me for 5 seconds Android Auto and automatically disconnects and closes the application, I have to reconnect it so that the same thing happens. I did a lot of tests.
1. I did a factory reset. IT DID NOT WORK !!
2. Update the Stereo Firmware. IT DID NOT WORK !!
3. Buy 2 original Samsung data cables. IT DID NOT WORK !!
4. I lowered the Waze, so that it does not automatically lift the Google Maps and see if that was the problem and it persists.
A possible solution that you find is not the best thing to do. It was to grab an old Samsung J5 cell phone and with my Note 10 Plus give it internet through the Network Anchor and thus lift Android Auto from the J5. It works super slow but it works.
Something similar happened to this Google service and this cell phone? If so, sorry for creating this post but I didn't find it.
Thank you all for your time and I await everyone's answers.
Greetings.

Is it possible to install NFC to non-NFC smartphones?

I found it very usefull on my old phone (galaxy s9). My current smartphone is Samsung Galaxy A10s which is the low end smartphone and ofcourse no nfc on my current phone. Is it possible to install like an NFC tools or something? (Does that tools actually exist?)
NFC is a radio technology that generates its data stream via a magnetic field. Knowing this you easily can see that a device not having related hardware implemented never will be NFC capable.
jwoegerbauer said:
NFC is a radio technology that generates its data stream via a magnetic field. Knowing this you easily can see that a device not having related hardware implemented never will be NFC capable.
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Which means it is impossible to do?

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