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I own the Moto Z that came with Motorola 15w Turbo Charger (the grey turbo writing on the USB-C end, it's also the All-in-one charger too) but I wanted a substitute incase anything were to happen to it so
I purchased a bunch of USB-C to USB-A Cables, I also purchased two quick chargers. The first being the:
Tronsmart Rapid Wall Charger QC 3.0 18W, which is supposed to output 3.6V-6.5V/3A, 6.5V-9V/2A, 9V-12V/1.5A. And the second, the:
Motorola Turbo Charger QC 2.0 15W, which outputs Standard: 5V / 1.67A (8W) TurboPower 1: 9V / 1.67A (15W) TurboPower 2: 12V / 1.2A (15W)
Neither of these two chargers managed to trigger the "TurboPower Connected" pop up, I also downloaded Ampere and did some tests on them, but they show that the amperage caps at 1500mAh. Is there a reason for this and also could somebody suggest a guaranteed substitute charger that triggers the pop up?
Kibu21 said:
I own the Moto Z that came with Motorola 15w Turbo Charger (the grey turbo writing on the USB-C end, it's also the All-in-one charger too) but I wanted a substitute incase anything were to happen to it so
I purchased a bunch of USB-C to USB-A Cables, I also purchased two quick chargers. The first being the:
Tronsmart Rapid Wall Charger QC 3.0 18W, which is supposed to output 3.6V-6.5V/3A, 6.5V-9V/2A, 9V-12V/1.5A. And the second, the:
Motorola Turbo Charger QC 2.0 15W, which outputs Standard: 5V / 1.67A (8W) TurboPower 1: 9V / 1.67A (15W) TurboPower 2: 12V / 1.2A (15W)
Neither of these two chargers managed to trigger the "TurboPower Connected" pop up, I also downloaded Ampere and did some tests on them, but they show that the amperage caps at 1500mAh. Is there a reason for this and also could somebody suggest a guaranteed substitute charger that triggers the pop up?
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Are you using a Motorola turbo charge brick? Like the one in the box with the Nexus 6. If not then there's your issue. You can only acquire turbo charging speed through one of those and it'll turbo charge your phone through any USB cable since the cable is only a vessel used to flow voltage. Hope this helps!
Motorola SPN5864A TurboPower 15 Charger with Original Data/Charging Cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01012U6D2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_T1QQybJJS0ZW5
I have the first turbo charger (QC2) and it didn't work on my Moto Z. I think that Z isn't compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge technology; Moto probably uses USB-C capabilities for the Turbo Charge.
(haha sorry for my bad english)
galopez783 said:
I have the first turbo charger (QC2) and it didn't work on my Moto Z. I think that Z isn't compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge technology; Moto probably uses USB-C capabilities for the Turbo Charge.
(haha sorry for my bad english)
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Thank you for your response, I found out that using a fast charger that has a USB-C output on the charger, triggers the TurboPower Charge. So you would need a USB-C to USB-C cable with an Output Fast Charger of USB-C, as the charging current is higher.
galopez783 said:
I have the first turbo charger (QC2) and it didn't work on my Moto Z. I think that Z isn't compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge technology; Moto probably uses USB-C capabilities for the Turbo Charge.
(haha sorry for my bad english)
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majidjaxn said:
Are you using a Motorola turbo charge brick? Like the one in the box with the Nexus 6. If not then there's your issue. You can only acquire turbo charging speed through one of those and it'll turbo charge your phone through any USB cable since the cable is only a vessel used to flow voltage. Hope this helps!
Motorola SPN5864A TurboPower 15 Charger with Original Data/Charging Cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01012U6D2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_T1QQybJJS0ZW5
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Thank you for your response, I bought a fast charger with a USB-C output, that came with a USB-C to USB-C cable and it triggered the TurboPower pop up.
If you can get to a Verizon Wireless store or just want to hit them up on their website, the TurboPower 30 is currently on sale for $19.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/motorola-turbopower-30-usb-type-c-wall-charger/
Check this out:
Replacement turbo charger
Hey derdjango, did you order and test this charger? Is it original or at least compareable to the stock charger?
Location is China - maybe this is a fake/replica.
Thanks!
Same charger for even less: http://www.ebay.de/itm/152549160402 / http://www.ebay.com/itm/152549160402
Ordered one today. In a month or so I can give you guys feedback.
Hey Weirdos,
left replacement, right out of the box charger (EU).
TurboPower connected :good:
USB-C charging cable supports 3A current while normal micro USB charging cable only supports 1.8A current, so you need an Original Data/Charging USB-C cable.
I lost my turbo charger and yesterday i charged Moto Z with the original charger from my Zuk z1. And guess what...turbo charging enabled. Then i tried the Zuk Z2 charger and it also turbo charges. I know that Zuk and Moto are both Lenovo, but i did not expect it to work with a charger from 2015.
Maybe comes handy if someone has those lying around. I pressume chargers from Zuk Edge and 2 Pro should also be turbocharging the Z
Does turbo charging require anything special?
Or are these normal chargers with 3A/USB C?
chbla said:
Does turbo charging require anything special?
Or are these normal chargers with 3A/USB C?
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Charger with hardwired USB C cable or charger with USB C port with an USB C to C cable. And rated for 3A. As far as I know that would be the things needed.
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Is charging Moto by old chargers unrecommended (1A, 5V)? I've read, that fast charging kills our batteries faster than normal
Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
CorruptedSanity said:
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
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Most electronics with a USB port will only be rated for say 5v, or maybe 6v to allow for naughty USB power supplies. 9v is nearly double 5v, and on sensitive low-tech chargers, like resistive ones that charge 18650 or whatever, you could expose the battery to a much higher voltage than what it should have, which could cause an explosion or whatever. I used a fan since it should be able to handle the extra voltage quite happily.
What do you mean fan?
Used a fan to cool what?
Michaelflat1 said:
Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
pmj_pedro said:
There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
Michaelflat1 said:
what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
alvinlwh said:
I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
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Luckily (for me at least!), I do not normally carry my M5 around and therefore do not need quick charge on it. Even if taken on holiday, it can charge overnight in the hotel. However this put me off Huawei (and OnePlue, Oppo and any other brands that do not use QC standards) for my future purchase.
Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
StephenMSmith said:
Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
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Sorry, Huawei does not use QC standards but their own FCP/SCP instead. QC chargers will not fast charge Huawei gear but Huawei charger MAY charge QC gear fast.
So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
StephenMSmith said:
So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
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No it doesn't, as confirmed by a V/A USB meter. It will only top out at 5V/2A.
I repeat again, Huawei does NOT use QC3 technology, but FCP/SCP technology. If you are looking for a charger that can do both QC and FCP from the same socket, read through the tread again as I had already posted a brand and model that had been tested and confirmed to do both.
Ah, sorry, me dumb and had in my head that M5 was QC3. Now I get it -- FCP, not same as QC3. OK, I see your link and several other chargers compatible w/QC3 and FCP. Thanks!
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
sz.hatef said:
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
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I had used USB PD adaptors on the M5 before and it charges fine, but not quickly.
My Pad (M5 10.8 WiFi) charges via USB PD with 18 Watts using the 9 Volt Profile. What doesn't work is Quick Charge. Power delivery works fine
Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
reubenray said:
Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
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Nothing whatsoever
But get a good one that supports high wattage.
Some cables only transmit 5 watts
Meaning 5v and 1 amp
Technology from 2005
Hi,
Is it possible to get the Turbo-Charging (30W) With other PD Chargers?
I got a 30W Blitzwolf charger (20V1.5A) with PD3.0 protocol, a 60W usbc to usbc cable,
and I only get 18W "Fast charging" in the phone. Where's the problem?
This phone is 10V3A. 30W may not compatible with pd.
as writen on gsmareana (SEE PIC) the mi note 10 uses the usb PD standard.
https://ibb.co/k5fp9tk
So why isn't PD chargers working at full speed ??
Also,
Where Can I buy the original Charger and Cable?
Again, PD's 30W is 20V1.5A, but Xiaomi's 30W is 10V3A. They are not fully compatible.
I guess PD support is limited to 18W or 27W.
Does anyone know if Xiaomi has a car charger that is 30W 10V3a?
sanoayyk said:
Again, PD's 30W is 20V1.5A, but Xiaomi's 30W is 10V3A. They are not fully compatible.
I guess PD support is limited to 18W or 27W.
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Yah, you're right ... (I'm getting 18W MAX)
Weird thing is I can't find the original charger anywhere online !
I checked the original and PD charger. Original gives you 20 watts and PD 17 watts, so the difference is quite marginal. Interesting enough the only difference is amps, they both give out around 9 Volts but from PD it only draws 1,9 A even though it can give 3A (mine is rated 20V/3A). Also most USB PD chargers out there support 5-20V output with stepless adjustment but I don't think they take advantage of that.
I would have pictures to attach but for some reason can't on this forum.
so any way to get that 30, or at least 27W charging?
like even buying a new charger
or maybe flashing a custrom ROM/kernel?
ond96 said:
so any way to get that 30, or at least 27W charging?
like even buying a new charger
or maybe flashing a custrom ROM/kernel?
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Bet it would be possible but requires action from xiaomi or at least custom rom at the moment. I don't get why they advertise it falsely. It would be even possible to get more from USB PD as they don't draw the same power as from their own charger, even though it would be completely possible by the specifications.
Hello
So a couple of weeks back I upgraded to the Poco F2 Pro 6/128GB from my Mi 9T.
I have been using a magnetic charging cable with my Mi 9T, with a little magnetic part permanently in the usb port for convenience with a standard QC3.0 charger. Worked great and charged fast at 18W.
I wanted a similar solution for my Poco F2 Pro.
So I tried using the same cable (USB-A to Type-C) I have used with the Mi 9T with the original Poco F2 charger, which also uses the USB-A to Type-C with no success. The phone only charges at 18W. No Mi Turbo Charging at 30W.
I then went out to buy a 60W PD 3.0 charger and a USB-C to USB-C magnetic cable, but no success again. Standard fast charging, no Mi Turbo 30W rapid charging.
I have also ordered multiple PD chargers and tried many different magnetic USB-C cables but I can't get any of them to charge the phone at 30W. The only way to charge the phone at full power is with the charger and cable that comes in the box.
What I'm I doing wrong? Is it the magnetic aspect of the USB cables that prevents the Rapid 30W charging?
All the chargers I have bought are legit of Amazon with good reviews, not some cheap Chinese knockoffs as well as the USB-C cables. They were all advertised as PD 3.0 3A/5A max current.
Any help?
Ive tried all kinds of chargers pd/qc, the only combination i can charge the poco "rapidly" is with the original in the box charger and cable.
I can load it fast with 18 watts with almost every qc/pd charger i own, but only the 27 watt Note 8T charger and the original 33 watt charger will charge it faster than 18 watts.
Xiaomi Turbo charge is 33W, as in 11 volts by 3 amps. I guess you will not get any of those values from 3rd party chargers.
The best you can do it 9 volts by 3 amps as 27W charge with a QC 4 or 4+ ( I do not remember exactly) capable charger.
For both cases above your cable must be rated 3A or more and charger to have listed the values at output.
From what you are telling ( capable of doing 18W) your cable might be 2A max rated, as in 9x2.
But are you sure the charging is 9x2 or it is actually 9x3?
only xiaomi pd charge can 33w。others can only 27w max.
Ugreen magnetic charger cable was able to charge mine (crdroid 6.11) with 33w on original power supply. Non original power supplys charging speed was only 7.5w (5v 1.5amp) independent of charging cable. Tested using a passtrough meter.
romabah said:
Ugreen magnetic charger cable was able to charge mine (crdroid 6.11) with 33w on original power supply. Non original power supplys charging speed was only 7.5w (5v 1.5amp) independent of charging cable. Tested using a passtrough meter.
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have you a link for this cable?
cosminnn said:
Xiaomi Turbo charge is 33W, as in 11 volts by 3 amps. I guess you will not get any of those values from 3rd party chargers.
The best you can do it 9 volts by 3 amps as 27W charge with a QC 4 or 4+ ( I do not remember exactly) capable charger.
For both cases above your cable must be rated 3A or more and charger to have listed the values at output.
From what you are telling ( capable of doing 18W) your cable might be 2A max rated, as in 9x2.
But are you sure the charging is 9x2 or it is actually 9x3?
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This charger USB-C port 1 can charge at 11v/3A (from specs) I just ordered it, I'll let you guys know if this hold of true.
I use magnetic cable too with my Poco F2 Pro (before MI 9 Pro 5G "same cable") and works very well, as long as use Xiaomi original chargers (with other charger not work on Poco F2 and neither on MI 9 Pro).
Nintendo Switch charger and the Galaxy S9+ stock charger only charge at 5W. Kinda expected though.
geminikanon said:
I use magnetic cable too with my Poco F2 Pro (before MI 9 Pro 5G "same cable") and works very well, as long as use Xiaomi original chargers (with other charger not work on Poco F2 and neither on MI 9 Pro).
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Which magnetic cable do you have, could you post a link?
Does it turbo charge?
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/33005...er_id=b9b79bf2756c43f7ae40d85b15e1eb8d&is_c=N
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Yes, it has
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/33005...er_id=b9b79bf2756c43f7ae40d85b15e1eb8d&is_c=N
Hello
So a couple of weeks back I upgraded to the Poco F2 Pro 6/128GB from my Mi 9T.
I have been using a magnetic charging cable with my Mi 9T, with a little magnetic part permanently in the usb port for convenience with a standard QC3.0 charger. Worked great and charged fast at 18W.
I wanted a similar solution for my Poco F2 Pro.
So I have done some testing and the results might surprise you.
Poco supports 30W Mi Turbo Charge which seems to be a custom Xiaomi charging protocol and does not seem to play nice with standard USB PD3.0 Protocol.
I have done charging tests from ~5-20% battery for maximum charging speeds and tested the actual charge rates with a USB Voltmeter
Voltmeter:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-Mete...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648
Test 1: Original Charger and Cable
Result: 30W Mi Rapid Charging (~9.6V, 3.1A) As Expected
Even tho the original charger is rated at Max 33W, Poco only charges at 30W Max.
Test 2: 60W USB PD3.0 Charger + 5A Type C to Type C Cable
Charger: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0824S38VC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Cable: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07QPNRGYH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Result: 18W Standard Fast Charging (~9.2V, 1.9A)
I did multiple tests to check if the charger is legit (which it is, many of my friends use it with different devices and it works great) with my brothers Pixel 4XL, and my friend Xiaomi Mi 9.
Pixel Charged at 18W, Mi 9 at 27W.
The phone did not charge at 27W (~9V 3A), even to it does support PD 3.0 charging.
Test 3: Original Charger with a 3A Ugreen Magnetic Cable
Cable: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ugreen-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648
Result: ~25W Mi Turbo Charging (~9.6V, 2.6A)
This is very interesting since it does trigger the Mi Turbo Charge, it is not the full speed charge like with the original setup.
Original setup also has a charging animation, with the % increasing at a steady speed.
With the Ugreen Cable, there was no animation.
Test 4: Original Charger + 40W Huawei Supercharge Cable
Cable: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08CR7W2T1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Result: ~25W Mi Turbo Charging (~9.6V, 2.6A)
The original Xiaomi Cable is a 5A Cable, so I thought id try a Huawei Supercharge Cable, but it ended up charging the same as a 3A Ugreen Cable
Test 5: 60W USB PD3.0 Charger + 5A Magnetic Type C to Type C Cable
Charger: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0824S38VC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Cable: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08HLN27DP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Result: 18W Standard Fast Charging (~9.2V, 1.9A)
Again, standard 18W fast charging, not 27W as you would expect.
Conclusion:
From my testing, the only way to charge the Poco at Maximum speed of 30W is with the charger and cable which I find very strange. Does the original Xiaomi cable have a custom Xiaomi chip which handshakes with the charger to get the full 30W Mi Turbo charge?
With a PD3.0 Charger, I was only able to achieve 18W of fast charging, again very strange, since Poco should support 27W (~9V 3A) charging with any PD3.0 Charger.
I have settled for a setup with the Ugreen Magnetic Cable and the Original Charger for convenience, ease of use and preventing the USB port from being worn out. I am loosing about 5W of speed, which does slightly increase the charging time. (I charge my phone to ~85% max)
(If there is something wrong with my methodology let me know and I will re-test if needed)
I approved with an Aukey 29w Fast Charging charger (model pa-y7) and the same charge at 18W, even with the type-c cable on both sides (Baseus brand cable up to 60W)
It seems like Xiaomi cable and charger have an extra pin. That might trigger and power the turbocharge
osvaldo.17 said:
This little pin makes the difference.!
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I've tried this one:
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I don't know at which rate it charges but it triggers Charge turbo animation with the % increasing at a steady speed with almost any proper USB-C to USB-C cable.
I've also found that if you launch the CIT on the phone by tapping on kernel version 3 times on settings->About this phone->All specs
and go to the charging test (number 24) you can check which protocol is being used
If you use any QC3.0 charger it says USB_HVDCP, which triggers fast charging but not the charge turbo animation.
If you use a regular PD charger it says USB_PD which also triggers fast chargingbut also not the charge turbo animation.
If you use the original setup it also says USB_PD which means that extra pin it has on the USB-A connector is wired in a weird way it actually negotiates usb PD protocol, which I can also confirm because I connected it to a Thinkpad T480 and with the Lenovo Vantage software gets 27W charging, which is not possible with any USB-A to USB-C cable and QC3.0 charger.
Which may mean that maybe Xiaomi didn't want to pay for the QC4.0+ chipsets or something and did some weird stuff to get PD through QC3.0 by that pin and through the F2s software reducing the cost of the charger in the box and whatever else. As for this GaN 65W charger I have no idea on how they pull that off but is a proper PD charger
Since the update to Android 11, a set of cables that previously triggered the Turbo Charge, now suddenly work only as Fast Charge.
They were a bit slower than original before, but now they are a lot slower.
I only have the Accubattery measurements:
cca 4000 mA average on Android 10,
cca 3000 mA average on Android 11.
While the original charger + cable shows about 4500-5000 mA average.
They really managed to screw this device.
On ArrowOS my device charging at 1.8A and 7.5V with original charger and wire... so it depends on software. But anyway I don't want to downgrade from perfect OS to buggy MIUI only because of that.
I also have seen a weird change in charge speeds..
Used to be totally fine but it seems that for a while now the speeds are very slow and quickcharge isnt working anymore..
shicomm said:
I also have seen a weird change in charge speeds..
Used to be totally fine but it seems that for a while now the speeds are very slow and quickcharge isnt working anymore..
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hey have the same problema. here. teh only way to get fast chager is with the original charger al cable. PD charger give me fast charge. but all my other chargers that gives me fast charger in other devices gives me NOTHING now.
original charger 4300 ma,
PD: 1200 ma
fast chargers QC 3 and others: 230 ma !!
****ty old chargers : 230 ma.
so what the hell? I was thinking that I screwed the port of the phone with magnetics cables before read this.
Just my 2 cents here. Don't try to charge this phone with super fast chargers. Mine developed the well known fault that you needed to press the corner of the phone to get it to start charging. I even opened it and put a bit of a tape behind the ribbon cable connector (as some guy suggested on YT). It started charging again and then after a couple of weeks and a few more quick charges it stopped charging at all. I guess heat affects the connector or some element on the board. I've just ordered a new usb board and ribbon cable from Ali and if the phone comes back to life again I will never ever use the original rapid charger that came with the phone.