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Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
CorruptedSanity said:
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
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Most electronics with a USB port will only be rated for say 5v, or maybe 6v to allow for naughty USB power supplies. 9v is nearly double 5v, and on sensitive low-tech chargers, like resistive ones that charge 18650 or whatever, you could expose the battery to a much higher voltage than what it should have, which could cause an explosion or whatever. I used a fan since it should be able to handle the extra voltage quite happily.
What do you mean fan?
Used a fan to cool what?
Michaelflat1 said:
Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
alvinlwh said:
I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
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Luckily (for me at least!), I do not normally carry my M5 around and therefore do not need quick charge on it. Even if taken on holiday, it can charge overnight in the hotel. However this put me off Huawei (and OnePlue, Oppo and any other brands that do not use QC standards) for my future purchase.
Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
StephenMSmith said:
Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
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Sorry, Huawei does not use QC standards but their own FCP/SCP instead. QC chargers will not fast charge Huawei gear but Huawei charger MAY charge QC gear fast.
So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
StephenMSmith said:
So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
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No it doesn't, as confirmed by a V/A USB meter. It will only top out at 5V/2A.
I repeat again, Huawei does NOT use QC3 technology, but FCP/SCP technology. If you are looking for a charger that can do both QC and FCP from the same socket, read through the tread again as I had already posted a brand and model that had been tested and confirmed to do both.
Ah, sorry, me dumb and had in my head that M5 was QC3. Now I get it -- FCP, not same as QC3. OK, I see your link and several other chargers compatible w/QC3 and FCP. Thanks!
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
sz.hatef said:
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
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I had used USB PD adaptors on the M5 before and it charges fine, but not quickly.
My Pad (M5 10.8 WiFi) charges via USB PD with 18 Watts using the 9 Volt Profile. What doesn't work is Quick Charge. Power delivery works fine
Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
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Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
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Nothing whatsoever
But get a good one that supports high wattage.
Some cables only transmit 5 watts
Meaning 5v and 1 amp
Technology from 2005
The 7 Pro is supposed to support 5v/3A, 15W charging from a Power Delivery charger, but I'm only seeing 4.5v/1.8A, which is about 8W slow charging.
Am I reading this wrong? What's the best/highest/fastest charging you've seen from a PD charger?
Charger used: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H9WMW6N/ USB C PD Charger with GaN Tech, RAVPower Wall Charger Adapter 45W Type-C Power Delivery
Cable used: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y25Y6WX/ Anker Powerline+
Your battery is above 50% and charging speed slows with increasing battery percentage. To determine maximum speed of USB PD for the OP7Pro you need to check at a lower charge level. Warp charge will also not charge with 30W all the way.
What battery app is that?
Even with the OP charger once you get to 50-70% changing rate slows down by at least 50%, try when the phone is at 10% and then watch it for a couple minutes, that will tell you the max for that particular charger
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What battery app is that?
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It's the built in diagnostics. Dial *#808# in the OP Phone app.
Swipe to the second screen, "Device debugging", and there's one test for Normal Charger, and one for Fast Charger.
Harry Pothead said:
Your battery is above 50% and charging speed slows with increasing battery percentage. To determine maximum speed of USB PD for the OP7Pro you need to check at a lower charge level. Warp charge will also not charge with 30W all the way.
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Even with the OP charger once you get to 50-70% changing rate slows down by at least 50%, try when the phone is at 10% and then watch it for a couple minutes, that will tell you the max for that particular charger
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That's a great point, thanks! I'll try again from a lower charge state!
OnePlus has said it supports 15w PD while screen is off and 5v 1.5a while display is on.
parsa5 said:
OnePlus has said it supports 15w PD while screen is off and 5v 1.5a while display is on.
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Link?
338lm said:
That's a great point, thanks! I'll try again from a lower charge state!
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Basically no change when the battery was much lower :crying:
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OnePlus has said it supports 15w PD while screen is off and 5v 1.5a while display is on.
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Relatively no change between screen on vs off
338lm said:
Link?
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Question: Do the OnePlus 7 and 7 Pro supportpower
338lm said:
Basically no change when the battery was much lower :crying:
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I'm seeing the same thing. I tried three different USB PD chargers that I used on my Pixel XL. The highest charge current I saw was 1980mA. The battery was in the low to mid 30% range. I used the Ampere app. To check the accuracy of the app, I tried two things. 1. I used the stock Oneplus Warp charger and Ampere showed 5740mA (wow, 5.7A is kicking some butt!). 2. While using my Belkin USB-PD car charger, I noted the voltage and current coming from my bench power supply. The bench supply was outputting about 10W so an Ampere reading of about 8W of energy into the phone made sense. I used three different cables too.
All my cables are USB-C to USB-C since all my PD chargers have a USB-C port on them. I see the standard for USB 3.1 has a max rating of [email protected] which can be done over a USB-A to USB-C cable. I wonder if the only way to get 15W into the phone (besides the Oneplus chargers) is to use a USB-A to USB-C cable with a charger that has a USB-A port and can support 3A? Edit: No, more research shows there there should be no problems with C-C. The Belkin PD car charger I have doesn't specifically say it supports [email protected], but the Anker AC USB charger does list [email protected] I can't get more than about 1900mA out of it even with the battery low.
I basically support all the users that OP failed this point to include proper USB PD function. Only 7.5w to 10w is supported without any dash or warp charger. Confirmed
should be fixed with 10.0.2
Power Delivery (PD) is very complex. For example the USB PD Revision 3 specification is 657 pages. Much of the complexity involves the negotiation protocols between chargers and phones or other devices. In cases where a compatible protocol can't be negotiated between a charger and phone the page 242 of the spec says: "Shall supply the default [USB 2.0], [USB 3.2], [USB Type-C 2.0] (USB Type-C®) or [USBBC 1.2] voltage and current to VBUS when a Contract does not exist (USB Default Operation)." That's my guess why people are seeing lower charging currents than advertised by the chargers.
The OP's charger has this interesting cryptic note on their Amazon page: "Rapid charge: USB-C charger delivers 45-watts of power to charge and recharge all of your important devices at a high speed with PD 3. 0 (5V/ 3a, 9V/ 3a, 12V/ 3a, 15V/ 3a, 20V/ 2. 25a) Note: USB adapter will not be able to trigger the PD protocol
Specifications are at https://www.usb.org/document-library/usb-power-delivery
Hello
So a couple of weeks back I upgraded to the Poco F2 Pro 6/128GB from my Mi 9T.
I have been using a magnetic charging cable with my Mi 9T, with a little magnetic part permanently in the usb port for convenience with a standard QC3.0 charger. Worked great and charged fast at 18W.
I wanted a similar solution for my Poco F2 Pro.
So I have done some testing and the results might surprise you.
Poco supports 30W Mi Turbo Charge which seems to be a custom Xiaomi charging protocol and does not seem to play nice with standard USB PD3.0 Protocol.
I have done charging tests from ~5-20% battery for maximum charging speeds and tested the actual charge rates with a USB Voltmeter
Voltmeter:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-Mete...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648
Test 1: Original Charger and Cable
Result: 30W Mi Rapid Charging (~9.6V, 3.1A) As Expected
Even tho the original charger is rated at Max 33W, Poco only charges at 30W Max.
Test 2: 60W USB PD3.0 Charger + 5A Type C to Type C Cable
Charger: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0824S38VC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Cable: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07QPNRGYH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Result: 18W Standard Fast Charging (~9.2V, 1.9A)
I did multiple tests to check if the charger is legit (which it is, many of my friends use it with different devices and it works great) with my brothers Pixel 4XL, and my friend Xiaomi Mi 9.
Pixel Charged at 18W, Mi 9 at 27W.
The phone did not charge at 27W (~9V 3A), even to it does support PD 3.0 charging.
Test 3: Original Charger with a 3A Ugreen Magnetic Cable
Cable: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ugreen-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648
Result: ~25W Mi Turbo Charging (~9.6V, 2.6A)
This is very interesting since it does trigger the Mi Turbo Charge, it is not the full speed charge like with the original setup.
Original setup also has a charging animation, with the % increasing at a steady speed.
With the Ugreen Cable, there was no animation.
Test 4: Original Charger + 40W Huawei Supercharge Cable
Cable: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08CR7W2T1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Result: ~25W Mi Turbo Charging (~9.6V, 2.6A)
The original Xiaomi Cable is a 5A Cable, so I thought id try a Huawei Supercharge Cable, but it ended up charging the same as a 3A Ugreen Cable
Test 5: 60W USB PD3.0 Charger + 5A Magnetic Type C to Type C Cable
Charger: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0824S38VC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Cable: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08HLN27DP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Result: 18W Standard Fast Charging (~9.2V, 1.9A)
Again, standard 18W fast charging, not 27W as you would expect.
Conclusion:
From my testing, the only way to charge the Poco at Maximum speed of 30W is with the charger and cable which I find very strange. Does the original Xiaomi cable have a custom Xiaomi chip which handshakes with the charger to get the full 30W Mi Turbo charge?
With a PD3.0 Charger, I was only able to achieve 18W of fast charging, again very strange, since Poco should support 27W (~9V 3A) charging with any PD3.0 Charger.
I have settled for a setup with the Ugreen Magnetic Cable and the Original Charger for convenience, ease of use and preventing the USB port from being worn out. I am loosing about 5W of speed, which does slightly increase the charging time. (I charge my phone to ~85% max)
(If there is something wrong with my methodology let me know and I will re-test if needed)
I approved with an Aukey 29w Fast Charging charger (model pa-y7) and the same charge at 18W, even with the type-c cable on both sides (Baseus brand cable up to 60W)
It seems like Xiaomi cable and charger have an extra pin. That might trigger and power the turbocharge
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This little pin makes the difference.!
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I've tried this one:
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I don't know at which rate it charges but it triggers Charge turbo animation with the % increasing at a steady speed with almost any proper USB-C to USB-C cable.
I've also found that if you launch the CIT on the phone by tapping on kernel version 3 times on settings->About this phone->All specs
and go to the charging test (number 24) you can check which protocol is being used
If you use any QC3.0 charger it says USB_HVDCP, which triggers fast charging but not the charge turbo animation.
If you use a regular PD charger it says USB_PD which also triggers fast chargingbut also not the charge turbo animation.
If you use the original setup it also says USB_PD which means that extra pin it has on the USB-A connector is wired in a weird way it actually negotiates usb PD protocol, which I can also confirm because I connected it to a Thinkpad T480 and with the Lenovo Vantage software gets 27W charging, which is not possible with any USB-A to USB-C cable and QC3.0 charger.
Which may mean that maybe Xiaomi didn't want to pay for the QC4.0+ chipsets or something and did some weird stuff to get PD through QC3.0 by that pin and through the F2s software reducing the cost of the charger in the box and whatever else. As for this GaN 65W charger I have no idea on how they pull that off but is a proper PD charger
Since the update to Android 11, a set of cables that previously triggered the Turbo Charge, now suddenly work only as Fast Charge.
They were a bit slower than original before, but now they are a lot slower.
I only have the Accubattery measurements:
cca 4000 mA average on Android 10,
cca 3000 mA average on Android 11.
While the original charger + cable shows about 4500-5000 mA average.
They really managed to screw this device.
On ArrowOS my device charging at 1.8A and 7.5V with original charger and wire... so it depends on software. But anyway I don't want to downgrade from perfect OS to buggy MIUI only because of that.
I also have seen a weird change in charge speeds..
Used to be totally fine but it seems that for a while now the speeds are very slow and quickcharge isnt working anymore..
shicomm said:
I also have seen a weird change in charge speeds..
Used to be totally fine but it seems that for a while now the speeds are very slow and quickcharge isnt working anymore..
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hey have the same problema. here. teh only way to get fast chager is with the original charger al cable. PD charger give me fast charge. but all my other chargers that gives me fast charger in other devices gives me NOTHING now.
original charger 4300 ma,
PD: 1200 ma
fast chargers QC 3 and others: 230 ma !!
****ty old chargers : 230 ma.
so what the hell? I was thinking that I screwed the port of the phone with magnetics cables before read this.
Just my 2 cents here. Don't try to charge this phone with super fast chargers. Mine developed the well known fault that you needed to press the corner of the phone to get it to start charging. I even opened it and put a bit of a tape behind the ribbon cable connector (as some guy suggested on YT). It started charging again and then after a couple of weeks and a few more quick charges it stopped charging at all. I guess heat affects the connector or some element on the board. I've just ordered a new usb board and ribbon cable from Ali and if the phone comes back to life again I will never ever use the original rapid charger that came with the phone.
Hi All,
I am not an expert and hence seeking suggestions.
I have Xiaomi 120W Power Adapter (with wireless which can also be used as wired) and wondering if I can use for the S22 Ultra (Snapdragon version).
Thanks
If the power supports USB PD PPS it will charge at up to 45 W. If it only supports USB PD it will charge up to 15 W. And if it doesn't support USB PD at all, it will charge between 5 and 10 W.
It should be noted on the power adapter itself whether it supports PPS
My Huawei 65W USB-C PD charger used with the Honor Magicbook 14 charges at a report "Superfast" rate but that means anything above 20W. Of course there isn't a measured difference between a 25W and a 45W charger according to GSM Arena so YMMV.
Thanks all. As per this article it does
Xiaomi 120W Power Adapter Supports QC5 and USB PD + PPS Over USB-A Port
Xiaomi 120W Power Adapter Supports QC5 and USB PD + PPS Over USB-A Port
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Hopefully no damage to the phone.
Does "Super Fast Charging 2.0" mean it's charging at 45W?
What is it if it's just "Super Fast Charging"?
Only one of my many third party chargers seems to show 2.0
chistery said:
Does "Super Fast Charging 2.0" mean it's charging at 45W?
What is it if it's just "Super Fast Charging"?
Only one of my many third party chargers seems to show 2.0
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Superfast 2.0 means anything above 25W I believe.
Super Fast Charging I think is between 15 and 25W.
Both of these would be potential speeds, as the phones won't charge at max rate from 0-100%. The rate starts slow at 0%, rises slowly to max, then starts dropping between 60 and 80%, falling to 0 charge rate as the battery reaches 100%
vpr5703 said:
Superfast 2.0 means anything above 25W I believe.
Super Fast Charging I think is between 15 and 25W.
Both of these would be potential speeds, as the phones won't charge at max rate from 0-100%. The rate starts slow at 0%, rises slowly to max, then starts dropping between 60 and 80%, falling to 0 charge rate as the battery reaches 100%
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Thanks. All these different standards get very confusing!
I would have expected my "Anker Powerport III 65W PPS charger" to show 2.0, but it doesn't. The "MINIX 66W Turbo 3-Port GaN Wall Charger" does.
chistery said:
Thanks. All these different standards get very confusing!
I would have expected my "Anker Powerport III 65W PPS charger" to show 2.0, but it doesn't. The "MINIX 66W Turbo 3-Port GaN Wall Charger" does.
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I just learned this myself, - but check your cables. The S22U is rated for 20V input, so it checks with the cable to make sure the cable can supply the correct power. USB-C cables have chips in them to identify the cable and its capability. If you use the cable that came with the phone you might get different results. I did for sure.
The PowerPort II also doesn't output the right voltage for the S22 from what I can understand. So there is that.
Hi,
Does the USB cable which is inside the box, support fast charge or I need to buy a new cable to enjoy 45w power delivery fast charge?
Thanks for your reply
It does. it might be a hit and miss unless a Samsung charger
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It does. it might be a hit and miss unless a Samsung charger
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I'm not buying a Samsung charger, so should I buy a new cable?
Actually, I am planning to buy one of these chargers, which one do you think is better? more powerful?
https://www.aukey.com/products/omnia-duo-65w-dual-port-pd-charger-with-dynamic-detect
https://www.ravpower.com/products/rp-pc133-pd-gan-65wusb-c-wall-charger#!
https://ldnio.com/products/a2620c-65w-pd-qc-3-0-usb-type-c-high-power-charger-adapter
https://www.aukey.com/products/aukey-pa-b3-omnia-65w-fast-usb-c-charger
Any charger that supports PPS will do fine. The USB cable should have an emarker circuit (the boxed cable does).
SloPoke23 said:
Any charger that supports PPS will do fine. The USB cable should have an emarker circuit (the boxed cable does).
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I couldn't find whether the adaptors above, do support pps or nor! Have you got any suggestions?
I suppose you could look for reviews or discussions on those particular adapters or search for detailed specifications. Or search Amazon or generally for adapters with keywords PD 3.0 and PPS. Most modern power adapters usually specifically point out PPS support in their specs.
SloPoke23 said:
I suppose you could look for reviews or discussions on those particular adapters or search for detailed specifications. Or search Amazon or generally for adapters with keywords PD 3.0 and PPS. Most modern power adapters usually specifically point out PPS support in their specs.
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The links above do not include any information whether these chargers support pps, although they are good gadgets.
I have had issues with trying to find a 45watt charger which will charge the S22u at the Super Fast Charge 2.0 rate. I probably ordered 5 different chargers and none of them would work @45 watts even though they supported the PD 3.0 PPS standard. When I contacted one company support team they said Samsung tweaked the PPS standard for the S22u.
As it turned out, I had an Elecjet 65w charger that charges my S22u at the 45w Super Fast Charge 2.0 rate. While they no longer sell that charger, they have a newer 45w version that does support the S22u (several Amazon reviews confirmed this).
https://www.amazon.com/ELECJET-Charging-Charger-Compatible-Samsung/dp/B084Q2CZG6/ref=mp_s_a_1_11_sspa?crid=1TAJ5U5PIBF89&keywords=65w+phone+charger+elecjet&qid=1655176242&sprefix=65w+phone+charger+elecjet%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-11-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFOVFcxMEYwMjBSOTgmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAzOTAyMzYxUlJDM0ZGUk1ZUzI4JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3MTI5MzIyTjE2VzRCQVZCTktQJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Links to a car charger with PD + PPS would be good
7 And Still Growing said:
Links to a car charger with PD + PPS would be good
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I have this charger and it's fantastic; I get super fast charging through the usb c port, and regular fast charging through the usb a port.
AUKEY CC-A3 Dual-Port(USB-C/USB-A) Car Charger - 30W
Buy Our High-Speed Charging-Powerful Single Port 30w Charging for Smartphones, Tablets, and Even Small Laptops. Free Shipping on All Orders Over $25
www.aukey.com
I've got 2 of these chargers which do Samsung Super Fast charging (25watt) from the Usb-c port and Fast Charging from the Usb-A port.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08YWLW6B2?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
jasin91 said:
I'm not buying a Samsung charger, so should I buy a new cable?
Actually, I am planning to buy one of these chargers, which one do you think is better? more powerful?
https://www.aukey.com/products/omnia-duo-65w-dual-port-pd-charger-with-dynamic-detect
https://www.ravpower.com/products/rp-pc133-pd-gan-65wusb-c-wall-charger#!
https://ldnio.com/products/a2620c-65w-pd-qc-3-0-usb-type-c-high-power-charger-adapter
https://www.aukey.com/products/aukey-pa-b3-omnia-65w-fast-usb-c-charger
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The cable should be fine. The cables I'm still using that was included with my s21 and LG V60 both provide Super Fast Charging when paired with a capable charging block. Anything from aukey, ugreen, ravpower rated for PD 3.0 and Super Fast should be fine. Samsung has a conservative charging system compared to the Chinese brand phones from Hauwei, Xiaomi, and Realme.
I have a BASEUS 100W GAN charger that works with the Samsung S22U. It's standard PPS. Also some noname 120W GAN charging hub I bought from AliExpress. Both indicate Superfast Charging 2.0 on the S22U when I plug them in.
SloPoke23 said:
I have a BASEUS 100W GAN charger that works with the Samsung S22U. It's standard PPS. Also some noname 120W GAN charging hub I bought from AliExpress. Both indicate Superfast Charging 2.0 on the S22U when I plug them in.
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Can you leave the link to your Baseus charger?
mc_365 said:
The cable should be fine. The cables I'm still using that was included with my s21 and LG V60 both provide Super Fast Charging when paired with a capable charging block. Anything from aukey, ugreen, ravpower rated for PD 3.0 and Super Fast should be fine. Samsung has a conservative charging system compared to the Chinese brand phones from Hauwei, Xiaomi, and Realme.
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I was going to buy either Aukey or RavPower but the PPS is not mentioned in the specifications!!!! What should I buy?!
Rubby1025 said:
I have had issues with trying to find a 45watt charger which will charge the S22u at the Super Fast Charge 2.0 rate. I probably ordered 5 different chargers and none of them would work @45 watts even though they supported the PD 3.0 PPS standard. When I contacted one company support team they said Samsung tweaked the PPS standard for the S22u.
As it turned out, I had an Elecjet 65w charger that charges my S22u at the 45w Super Fast Charge 2.0 rate. While they no longer sell that charger, they have a newer 45w version that does support the S22u (several Amazon reviews confirmed this).
https://www.amazon.com/ELECJET-Charging-Charger-Compatible-Samsung/dp/B084Q2CZG6/ref=mp_s_a_1_11_sspa?crid=1TAJ5U5PIBF89&keywords=65w+phone+charger+elecjet&qid=1655176242&sprefix=65w+phone+charger+elecjet%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-11-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFOVFcxMEYwMjBSOTgmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAzOTAyMzYxUlJDM0ZGUk1ZUzI4JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3MTI5MzIyTjE2VzRCQVZCTktQJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
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That seems to be a good charger, but I cannot find one in my country, Iran. There are some good adaptors including Anker, Baseus, Aukey, Ravpower, Mcdodo, and so on but I could not find whether they do support PPS.
jasin91 said:
Can you leave the link to your Baseus charger?
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002037978734.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.3e9518024NsdU7
It's not exactly cheap but it supports every charging protocol that I know of.
Also available at US site, unless you want white: https://us.baseus.com/p/baseus-gan2-pro-quick-charger-2c-2u-100w-9
Update: Amazon too.
SloPoke23 said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002037978734.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.3e9518024NsdU7
It's not exactly cheap but it supports every charging protocol that I know of.
Also available at US site, unless you want white: https://us.baseus.com/p/baseus-gan2-pro-quick-charger-2c-2u-100w-9
Update: Amazon too.
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Thanks for the link, but I could find the following charger available in the market:
Baseus GaN2 3 Ports Fast Charger 65W
Baseus 65W 3 Port foldable USB C charger is 3x faster than original 5W charger while supporting 8 kinds of fast-charging protocols including 45W Samsung Super Fast Charging.
us.baseus.com
It is not cheap, but I think it's good. Should I buy this one? (And not the ones I provided the link in my first message? I mean Aukey or RavPower)
jasin91 said:
Thanks for the link, but I could find the following charger available in the market:
Baseus GaN2 3 Ports Fast Charger 65W
Baseus 65W 3 Port foldable USB C charger is 3x faster than original 5W charger while supporting 8 kinds of fast-charging protocols including 45W Samsung Super Fast Charging.
us.baseus.com
It is not cheap, but I think it's good. Should I buy this one? (And not the ones I provided the link in my first message? I mean Aukey or RavPower)
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Does this Baseus GaN2 Pro support SUPERfast charging? Because I heard that superfast charging is different from fast charging.
jasin91 said:
I was going to buy either Aukey or RavPower but the PPS is not mentioned in the specifications!!!! What should I buy?!
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The reality is a 100% fully supported charging brick and cable will only get you a < 10 min decrease in charging from 0 - 100%. With most of the speed gains in the 0 - 50% time being reduce by like 6 minutes and then being pretty much negligible after, as the phone throttles to protect the battery from overheating.
To get everything you probably would need to go with the Baseus.
https://a.co/d/17Oxq7U
and
https://a.co/d/7OIbSPf
or get the most purchesd (implying some reliability) 100w PD 3.0 charger and use the cables you have and get 90% the same results with Superfast Charge vs Superfast Charge 2.0