better gesture navigation - 3rd party launchers? - Samsung Galaxy S9+ Guides, News, & Discussion

hi, i'm still on stock oneui 2.5, and the 3rd party gesture implementation is so bad that bugs the hell out of me constantly. it's just so much bugged that i wonder how did they come to the conclusion that it was a nice idea to upload it as ready.
has it got any better in 3.0? in that case i might look for roms, otherwise, have you found a workaround or a fix of any genre?
i tried onehand operation+ and task changer but it's totally another thing; they don't feature quick switch by swiping up-right nor all the fluidity that comes in the stock launcher.
any ideas?

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Dominicjobs said:
I have also searched and I have not achieved
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so sad that they released something that feels more like a beta than a release and stopped the updates there

You might find FNG (fluid navigation) to be a great alternative.

Rule #1 never update an OS that is fast, stable and is fulfilling its mission.
My 10+ is still running on Pie and it's original OneUI version. No issues.
3rd party launchers are not as stable, are slower, use more battery and are an apk that can boot loop the phone just like that.
Been there, done that.

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Honor 10 LAG here and there after 9 pie update

Some lag in:
scrolling lost calls and calls (very huge lag)
swipe left notifications
swipe right a menu (note application for example)
graphical glitch when exit from software and hardware battery usage
scrolling app notification menu
Most of them gone with performance mode, but none of these was in 8.1, so I reverted back.
Anyone notice these lags?
Hi,
You are not alone. I had the same problems.
Which I did was disable some Huawei system apps including the launcher after installing Nova launcher and Fluid navigation gestures.
Follow this thread for list of app, but remember to see this one for safety. Disabling apps is much safety than uninstalling them.
After doing that, the lag has been almostly gone. You will come back to Android Oreo style multitasking cards and maybe can not use the ultra power saving mode. And, with an option in Fluid now your fingerprint also works as a home button (you still can use the scan function). I choose the option to run app from lockscreen, it helps hide permanently the navigation bar (before that it takes part of second), however the lockscreen clock will be cut parly at bottom.
duanpv said:
Hi,
You are not alone. I had the same problems.
Which I did was disable some Huawei system apps including the launcher after installing Nova launcher and Fluid navigation gestures.
Follow this thread for list of app, but remember to see this one for safety. Disabling apps is much safety than uninstalling them.
After doing that, the lag has been almostly gone. You will come back to Android Oreo style multitasking cards and maybe can not use the ultra power saving mode. And, with an option in Fluid now your fingerprint also works as a home button (you still can use the scan function). I choose the option to run app from lockscreen, it helps hide permanently the navigation bar (before that it takes part of second), however the lockscreen clock will be cut parly at bottom.
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does disabling stock launcher really reduce lags? I delete some stock apps, but not the launcher since I dont like oreo style, and still got the lags here and there.
cacingbesar said:
does disabling stock launcher really reduce lags? I delete some stock apps, but not the launcher since I dont like oreo style, and still got the lags here and there.
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That what happened in my phone. You can try.
maRRRco89 said:
Some lag in:
scrolling lost calls and calls (very huge lag)
swipe left notifications
swipe right a menu (note application for example)
graphical glitch when exit from software and hardware battery usage
scrolling app notification menu
Most of them gone with performance mode, but none of these was in 8.1, so I reverted back.
Anyone notice these lags?
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can you tell me how you revert back to 8.1? or share link even i need to revert back.
my COL-L29 hasn't unlocked, yet huawei already stopped the support to give the unlock code. found a way to get that but it cost a decent money (since i choose android because i thought IT WAS FREE TO CUSTOMIZE MY OWN PHONE. so far i think only huawei that make this nonsense decision). can i borrow any of your account and the unlock code as well? if anyone could do that i will be very very happy :'')
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my COL-L29 hasn't unlocked, yet huawei already stopped the support to give the unlock code. found a way to get that but it cost a decent money (since i choose android because i thought IT WAS FREE TO CUSTOMIZE MY OWN PHONE. so far i think only huawei that make this nonsense decision). can i borrow any of your account and the unlock code as well? if anyone could do that i will be very very happy :'')
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STOP crossposting. You are breaking the rules. The same post on 3 threads. READ THE RULES and try using some common sense when asking others for their account data.
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STOP crossposting. You are breaking the rules. The same post on 3 threads. READ THE RULES and try using some common sense when asking others for their account data.
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oh i'm sorry, if didn't do that my post will get ignored everytime. i thought it was okay to ask anyone for their huawei account, as i will open to others if i could get my own code (yes, seriously). becasue i think huawei account isn't a big deal, google account is
cacingbesar said:
does disabling stock launcher really reduce lags? I delete some stock apps, but not the launcher since I dont like oreo style, and still got the lags here and there.
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I just moved to Nova and disabled the stock launcher and the performance boost is out of the roof! I'm curious what will the impact of this for the battery life.
Rapid81 said:
I just moved to Nova and disabled the stock launcher and the performance boost is out of the roof! I'm curious what will the impact of this for the battery life.
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Can you explain what you mean by "performance boost"? Higher benchmark score? More fluid operations? Or something else?
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Can you explain what you mean by "performance boost"? Higher benchmark score? More fluid operations? Or something else?
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Everything is more fluid than before. Applications starts faster and operates faster. Not experienced any lag since the change. Before that, I had a lot. Never ran any benchmark ever, so I cannot say anything about that.
Rapid81 said:
Everything is more fluid than before. Applications starts faster and operates faster. Not experienced any lag since the change. Before that, I had a lot. Never ran any benchmark ever, so I cannot say anything about that.
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If you said higher benchmark score, I will totally skip it. But since you said a more fluid operations, I will disable that stock launcher very soon.... Thanks a lot for your info.
update after disabling stock launcher :
great news for third party launcher, disabling stock launcher will solve the black/empty recent app.
and yes, its a bit more fluid. how much? I dunno....its just a feeling, no benchmark or any other measurement.

Vertical recent apps Android 10?

Is there any way to get vertical recent apps on Android 10 open beta? The horizontal recent is pretty much useless as it only shows one app on the screen.
Normally you install another launcher (Apex Classic as an option) and you have it (back).
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Normally you install another launcher (Apex Classic as an option) and you have it (back).
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Tried. But didn't work. I also tried old OnePlus launcher, that didn't work either.
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Tried. But didn't work. I also tried old OnePlus launcher, that didn't work either.
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Hmm try using an alternative launcher and freezing/disabling the oneplus launchers
If freezing / disabling is what it takes, that is a pity for bon-rooters. That would really be customer unfriendly. I hate this whole gesture based thing because I use my fix gestures since 2014 when I started using Apex launcher. It would mean I need to reprogram my brains.
Freezing also breaks gestures
Perhaps soon it'll be introduced:
]https://www.xda-developers.com/late...t-third-party-launchers-already-live-pixel-4/
Here's hoping anyway!
I disabled the horizontal recents in pie.
Now after the update to 10, I don't have recents at all.
I reinstalled the oneplus Launcher. Still no recents.
Any ideas?
Is there any solution for this, the recent apps on the oneplus 7 pro is just horrible
Although the 7 pro is a brilliant phone, Oxygen isnt that great : I come from a Samsung with goodlock and i have to say that i am disappointed at the lack of options in oxygen.
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Is there any solution for this, the recent apps on the oneplus 7 pro is just horrible
Although the 7 pro is a brilliant phone, Oxygen isnt that great : I come from a Samsung with goodlock and i have to say that i am disappointed at the lack of options in oxygen.
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Not that I know of, unfortunately. I've actually just forced myself to get used to it....
There is no vertical recents provider in Android 10.
I have looked all over the playstore for an app that can do something like this but sadly nothing.
As an alternative i am using Jina sidebar and sort the apps there by last used.
Everyone complains about samsung's UI and raves about oxygen, but now that i have it i feel very much opposite
Oneplus 7 pro hardware is fantastic certainly for the price i paid for it, but the software leaves a lot to be desired. Sadly the country i live in has no possibilities for returning your purchase, otherwise i would run back to samsung.
Come on oneplus, make some software !
Any updates on this matter ?
When hell freezes over I'll get used to this stupid horizontal app switcher
If at least I could remap that button to one of those third party recent apps, but not even that.
Once ago (android P) I could freeze the default launcher, and things went back to normal. Now, if I freeze the launcher, nothing comes up.
I think back then the default provider was replaced by an alternative provider, which I would gladly download again if I remembered the name. Something with "quick" on it.

Lag in recent apps overview

I'm on a Pixel 3 XL with the latest Android update (not rooted, no custom ROM, or anything like that). I am using Nova Launcher. When I try to switch to a recent app, there is a long lag time. It doesn't happen all the time, but it happens more often than not.
In the video link below, I have the "show taps" on so you can see what is going on. I clear all the recent apps. Open just 4 apps. And then try to switch to the most recent app. I tap two times, and nothing happens. But the screen is not frozen since I can still scroll through the recent apps. I tap one last time and there is still no response. And after a while, the app finally opens.
Is this a common issue on Pixels. Is there anything that can improve this? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
https://youtu.be/Z37r_Vd32sg
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I'm on a Pixel 3 XL with the latest Android update (not rooted, no custom ROM, or anything like that). I am using Nova Launcher. When I try to switch to a recent app, there is a long lag time. It doesn't happen all the time, but it happens more often than not.
In the video link below, I have the "show taps" on so you can see what is going on. I clear all the recent apps. Open just 4 apps. And then try to switch to the most recent app. I tap two times, and nothing happens. But the screen is not frozen since I can still scroll through the recent apps. I tap one last time and there is still no response. And after a while, the app finally opens.
Is this a common issue on Pixels. Is there anything that can improve this? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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It's a pretty common issue with third party launchers. Try using the stock launcher to see if the issue persists
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It's a pretty common issue with third party launchers. Try using the stock launcher to see if the issue persists
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Tried it with the stock launcher and it did not happen. This is super frustrating. Pixel phones are becoming iPhones now, limiting our choice. I don't know how they haven't fixed this issue yet, despite having Android 10 out for so long.
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Tried it with the stock launcher and it did not happen. This is super frustrating. Pixel phones are becoming iPhones now, limiting our choice. I don't know how they haven't fixed this issue yet, despite having Android 10 out for so long.
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It has to do with everything being built into the launcher now, including animations. If it makes you feel better this seems pretty much completely fixed in Android 11. Are you rooted? There is a magisk module that fixes this completely on Android 10 as well.
Edited to add: it's called quickstep switcher I believe in case you're wondering
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It has to do with everything being built into the launcher now, including animations. If it makes you feel better this seems pretty much completely fixed in Android 11. Are you rooted? There is a magisk module that fixes this completely on Android 10 as well.
Edited to add: it's called quickstep switcher I believe in case you're wondering
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Thanks! I'll look into it. This is the first phone I haven't rooted or had a custom ROM on, mainly because of the ease of monthly OTA updates. But now I am leaning towards rooting. I'll have to research a bit about how to deal with monthly updates while rooted.
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Thanks! I'll look into it. This is the first phone I haven't rooted or had a custom ROM on, mainly because of the ease of monthly OTA updates. But now I am leaning towards rooting. I'll have to research a bit about how to deal with monthly updates while rooted.
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Root it but keep the old boot image. Flash the original boot image before taking the OTA. Then download the fastboot files for the new OTA from the Android site, patch that new boot image and flash that.
Feel free to PM me anytime you need any help, I'll even patch the boot image for you if you like.

Launchers and gestures problems

Pixel launcher has the annoying search bar on its home screen which is irremovable.
Nova launcher is arguably the best for customizability. But there's something that ticks me off when using Nova. Whenever you open recent apps the transition isn't smooth as with Pixel. It has a small hiccup.
(See https://imgur.com/a/lewvZu3 for what I mean)
I tried almost every launcher on the market and they all had the same problem.
So I contacted Nova's development team to give them my feedback. This is what they had to say:
"Hello,
PLEASE READ THIS RESPONSE IN FULL!
You can read Google's official statement and our statement about the issues you and anyone else using Android 10 and Android 11 are experiencing. Please take note that Google admits to this being broken on their end of things and that a fix will be coming in a future update to Android(Stated March 2019.).
However, it's now well over a year later and there are still many issues with full system gestures and 3rd party launchers on both Android and Android 11. These issues will remain for the foreseeable future as Google has no plans to completely fix their full system gestures.
This includes things such as the CLOSE ALL/CLEAR ALL button not showing up when you access the Recent Apps screen. As well as a delay of being able to tap on app icons when returning to the home screen from another app, from viewing the Recent Apps screen or anything similar.
These problems will still be there when Android 11 is released in its final form as Google has made it clear it's not going to fix/change things any time soon.
Please understand, there is absolutely NOTHING WE CAN DO TO FIX OR CHANGE THIS IN ANY WAY! Contact Google or your device OEM directly with these issues as contacting any launcher developer isn't the correct thing to do and isn't going to accomplish anything.
SAMSUNG USERS: Samsung has enabled full system gestures to be enabled within 3rd party launchers with their One UI 2.5 update. This means you can enable those gestures, but things are still very broken, especially when it comes to animations and how smooth the gestures work. This is NOT something Nova, or any other 3rd party launcher can fix. Only Google can fix it.
In the end, none of this is something we(Nova) can fix or change in any way and neither can any other 3rd party launcher for that matter. It is ultimately up to Google and only Google to fix full system gestures completely. Though they have made it clear that full system gestures will remain broken even with the final release of Android 11 and likely well beyond that.
We understand that this statement was made during a beta version of Android 10. However, as is stated in the below URL, this issue will remain broken even after Android 10, and now Android 11, is released in its final form. What this means is that Google knew well ahead of time that they had no plans to fix this until much later so it's still a relative issue today.
GOOGLE'S STATEMENT:
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2019/07/android-q-beta-5-update.html
OUR STATEMENT:
https://help.teslacoilapps.com/faq/gesture-navigation
As of the December 2019 Security Patch from Google, you can now enable full system gestures within 3rd party launchers. However, please note, there are still a lot of issues with the gesture system such as animations not working, Close All button not showing up and several other things. This is not something any launcher developer, including us here at Nova, can fix or change in any way.
This is still all up to Google to fix at some point in the future and to get things working 100% the way everyone expects them to be.
If you experience any issues at all while using full system gestures, it is highly suggested that you contact Google directly and/or file bug reports with them directly so that your voice can be heard by them directly.
ACTION LAUNCHER'S FALSE CLAIMS: Action Launcher made an announcement back in late December 2019, is actually misleading and 100% incorrect. They are referring to the back swipe edit zones and similar stuff. Full system gestures are completely controlled by Android and not something a launcher can just suddenly add support for or change in any way.
If you actually try to use the full system gestures in Action Launcher, you'll see they are still as broken as they have been and will remain that way until Google fixes things themselves."
Edit: uploaded an animated gif of the example but XDA converted it to a still image, so I had to upload on imgur.
I'm using Nova as well. Have you also had an issue when swiping up and holding to access recent apps, the apps fill the entire screen instead of showing the smaller preview window?
Wulfegang said:
I'm using Nova as well. Have you also had an issue when swiping up and holding to access recent apps, the apps fill the entire screen instead of showing the smaller preview window?
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Just updated to A11 beta and the bugs are gone. It's working smoothly now.
The gestures work fine if you're willing to root and use QuickSwitch with a supported launcher. (No third party launchers support A11 with QuickSwitch yet though)
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using XDA Labs
i have this problem on a oneplus ,Do you have enable the navigation with gestures?
when i use navigation bar this issue solve it most of the times its a common problem on nova for not having all the code for android 10 as nova tell that navigation gestures on android 10 are not totally compatible with the launcher
M0shi said:
Pixel launcher has the annoying search bar on its home screen which is irremovable.
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Search bar can be removed and more options.
See this thread
Just make sure you get the right files for A10, I have not tested on A11 yet.
kc6wke said:
Search bar can be removed and more options.
See this thread
Just make sure you get the right files for A10, I have not tested on A11 yet.
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Awesome! Thanks!

[Gesture navigation problem on android 11]

Hello, I recently had on my poco F2 pro european version, the update to android 11. Since this update (12.2.1.0) gesture navigation on nova laucher bug while on android 10 there was no problem. Gesture bugs occur on all alternative launchers. Only back gestures work, and Home and Recent App only works on the Home page. It is impossible to go to home when I am on facebook for example. I don't know where it comes from, after the advice on xiaomi after-sales service I carried out a factory restore but without success. Thank you in advance for your answers.
Same as you, only I'm on the global version. Tried the factory reset as well.
For me just recents don't work.
Read the link for more info
MIUI 12 issues still exist with Nova, Lawnchair, & other 3rd-party launchers
Xiaomi's MIUI 12 still casues issues with thrid-party launchers like Nova, Lawnchair, and more as per the latest user reports.
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Same here, 'recents' don't work with Smart-Launcher'
Okay, from what I can see I'm not alone. Do you think this will be resolved with future updates or is android blocking this?
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Okay, from what I can see I'm not alone. Do you think this will be resolved with future updates or is android blocking this?
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It's probably MIUI issue, because it works in AOSP ROMs.
Ah okay I thought the problem was similar to that android 10 at launch. What surprises me is that miui 12 under android 10 did not have this problem ...
same, i'm using lawnchair launcher. need to use default launcher for the time being.
Qrtb41 said:
Hello, I recently had on my poco F2 pro european version, the update to android 11. Since this update (12.2.1.0) gesture navigation on nova laucher bug while on android 10 there was no problem. Gesture bugs occur on all alternative launchers. Only back gestures work, and Home and Recent App only works on the Home page. It is impossible to go to home when I am on facebook for example. I don't know where it comes from, after the advice on xiaomi after-sales service I carried out a factory restore but without success. Thank you in advance for your answers.
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Try on Nova 7 beta
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Try on Nova 7 beta
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Does it work? I wait with the update till it's working. I love Nova Launcher.
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Does it work? I wait with the update till it's working. I love Nova Launcher.
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I don't know, some say it works
Just don't update to latest "stable", it's not worth it.
In addition to lack of gesture support for 3rd party launchers (a huge annoyance, since if they don't restore these, I'll probably ditch F2 and move on to something more useable, besides Poco's launcher is a proper eyesore with that big bar at the bottom). Also I've been having issues with performance, lack of smoothness & often times Youtube crashing for no reason (when I'm not using it etc.).
Holy ****! So it's not just me.. Guess it's time to root my phone
ok, i have not found a working launcher! (i have tried 12x different apps!)
btw:
Nova 7 beta has the same problem!
no way out!
btw.
i have written to nova dev. They have answered they could not do anything against that behavior because xiaomi have to do that.
Must be a Poco F2 Pro specific issue..
i have seen, that the size of newer versions of poco launcher (>v. xxx.10) was reduced more than 10mb against older versions. No wonder, that we got problems.
no differences in behaviors if miui optimization is switched to on or off. Same result!
so wie have to wait for newer firmware fixes.
I have same problem, i cant open recents, and cant use gestures with other launchers.
Can some of you recommend custom rom with "swipe gestures" and "wake up on taking up" the fone features?
Moribus said:
I have same problem, i cant open recents, and cant use gestures with other launchers.
Can some of you recommend custom rom with "swipe gestures" and "wake up on taking up" the fone features?
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If 12.2.4. This update ends all the access to other 3rd party launcher
NOSS8 said:
If 12.2.4. This update ends all the access to other 3rd party launcher
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Yeah, I just updated to 12.2.4 today.
Moribus said:
Yeah, I just updated to 12.2.4 today.
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You would have looked here before. https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/xiaomi-poco-f2-pro-redmi-k30-pro-questions-ans.10679/
There are many posts in this version(bugs)

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