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Hardware Development TEYES CC3

TEYES has released a new flagship, the CC3 with the following specifications.
UIS7862 (Unisoc ums512) SOC
8 core 12 nm big.LITTLE with 2 A75 and 6 A55 cores.
Up to 6 GB memory and 128 GB of storage.
9 and 10.1 inch 1280 x 720 QLED +2.5D screen.
Phillips NXP TEF6686 FM radio.
ST TDA 7851L amplifier.
3 x USB 2.0 ports.
Android 10.
2 DSP ADAU1701 + Rohm32107 27 EQ.
Optical + Coaxial output.
External mic. in.
2.4 and 5 GHz wifi.
Full hd rear view camera.
Built in 4G modem.
Gyroscope.
Navigation receives GPS,GLONASS and BEIDOU satellites.
A metal back case with a fan for the SOC.
Very shallow which is perfect for cars with undeep dashboards.
Multiple oem panels and canbus adapters available for different car brands and models.
Instructions : https://cc3.teyes.ru/en/index.html
Video's of Teyes Malaysia for settings CC3 in English : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0R6aqLJ7mIoEWfql87jnnw/videos
Factory password : 168
Developer acces : 7788
Teyes is quite popular in Russia and Malaysia .
Here is a short review of a Russian guy from Sound Life with the unboxing...
TEYES Advanced Car Audio Infotainment Multimedia Navigation Systems
Home of the best selling android car stereo head unit with touch screen systems for vehicles. Replace your existing head unit & dash with TEYES custom dash to keep your OEM look maintaining its aesthetics Advance your vehicles technology with our range of accessories that integrate together.
www.teyes.com.au
https://de.aliexpress.com/store/1980682?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.34e45016mWXdkH
https://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=Teyes+CC3
Notice that there is also a CC2 plus and a Spro plus, that have more or less the same specifications.
The Teyes CC2 plus and Spro plus, does not have the extra ADAU1701 DSP and no gyroscope..

Well, really interesting.
Did you get any answers from vendor?
Their website is in russian language only and no translators can be used as all text is hard written into verifica l graphics.
Buy how to fit it in a standard 7" 2 DIN hole?

There is no difference between CC3 and CC2+/SPRO+ besides the board layout and the added ADI 1701 DSP in addition to the existing ROHM32107. Also has a proper control for controlling the fan. The others you had to enable the amplifier to power it on. All this information can be found on 4PDA.

Can the firmware from cc3 be flashed on a cc2+?

no, but technically yes. Teyes has taken a new approach to DRM and have encrypted their app resources in .ogg containers. To decrypt them, it uses a key stored somewhere on the device, probably in a persistent partition, as a seed to generate the proper keys to unpack the .ogg. A member on 4PDA has already done this using partition dumps from another member's CC3 unit and has managed to decrypt all the apps. He has made a custom firmware with the apps already prepacked with decrypted resources and has some private testers. They all say it works for them minus some bugs which is also present in the original CC3 unit. It is claimed that the firmware was going to be released to the general public on 11/11/20 (today), but it's since been moved to "eventually". The only way to get the firmware now is by paying the guy. It's a shame that a community effort gets thrown behind a paywall.

gamer765 said:
no, but technically yes. Teyes has taken a new approach to DRM and have encrypted their app resources in .ogg containers. To decrypt them, it uses a key stored somewhere on the device, probably in a persistent partition, as a seed to generate the proper keys to unpack the .ogg. A member on 4PDA has already done this using partition dumps from another member's CC3 unit and has managed to decrypt all the apps. He has made a custom firmware with the apps already prepacked with decrypted resources and has some private testers. They all say it works for them minus some bugs which is also present in the original CC3 unit. It is claimed that the firmware was going to be released to the general public on 11/11/20 (today), but it's since been moved to "eventually". The only way to get the firmware now is by paying the guy. It's a shame that a community effort gets thrown behind a paywall.
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Ok the difference in price between CC2+ and CC3 is 50 euro (buying the modified firmware will be even less), if i want to buy one or the other unit I'll definitively go straight for CC3.
Not cheap but it seem very attractive.

gamer765 said:
There is no difference between CC3 and CC2+/SPRO+ besides the board layout and the added ADI 1701 DSP in addition to the existing ROHM32107. Also has a proper control for controlling the fan. The others you had to enable the amplifier to power it on. All this information can be found on 4PDA.
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I know 4PDA, but as you know, its all in Russian, not a language that everybody speak.
Here on XDA its English which the whole world understand.
I thought that they said on 4PDA,that the CC3 also has a Gyroscope, can you confirm that?
Google translate translate Russian into Dutch, but sometimes translate the sentences or words on an odd way.

Flemischguy said:
I know 4PDA, but is you know, its all in Russian, not a language that everybody speak.
Here on XDA its English which the whole world understand.
I thought that they said on 4PDA,that the CC3 also has a Gyroscope, can you confirm that?
Google translate translate Russian into Dutch, but sometimes translate the sentences or words on an odd way.
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Ah yeah, forgot about the gyroscope, but its only purpose is for the TeyesVision app. Its what makes the car model shift to the left/right. It's just a gimmick.

It might also work with Maps when gps signal is absent.
Buy the way, does Maps run smoothly or is it crappy like on any other Chinese unit?

I don't own one of those devices so I cant comment regarding that. I would assume it does since the CPU is supposedly faster. I dont think the gyroscope would work anywhere else except TeyesVision since the gyroscope is accessed via an APK, so I'm assuming the gyroscope is not using native android libraries and its probably some closed source proprietary interface.

Should receive my unit by Dec. I will give my impression as soon as I install. Hopefully we can get someone who already received theirs to chime in.

I would get it also, if I can confirm it can fit a standard 2 din that is 7"

ultradj83 said:
I would get it also, if I can confirm it can fit a standard 2 din that is 7"
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What for car and model do you have?

Flemischguy said:
What for car and model do you have?
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It's a Fiat Grande Punto (2008).
The board has been modified to support a 2 DIN car system.
At the moment I have Eonon 2169K installed.
It's a 10.1" screen but body is 7".

ultradj83 said:
It's a Fiat Grande Punto (2008).
The board has been modified to support a 2 DIN car system.
At the moment I have Eonon 2169K installed.
It's a 10.1" screen but body is 7".
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You can ask it on the Facebook page of TEYES, but as far i can see its only for the Fiat 500.

Flemischguy said:
You can ask it on the Facebook page of TEYES, but as far i can see its only for the Fiat 500.
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I dunno if Fiat 500's default screen is 7" or 10.1"

ultradj83 said:
It's a Fiat Grande Punto (2008).
The board has been modified to support a 2 DIN car system.
At the moment I have Eonon 2169K installed.
It's a 10.1" screen but body is 7".
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Have you checked their aliexpress store? They recently added the CC3 for my car.

ricanxd said:
Have you checked their aliexpress store? They recently added the CC3 for my car.
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I have to check measures...

ultradj83 said:
I have to check measures...
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Yeah I just looked, and like other person said I only see units for the 500. Try contacting them and see if those units work for yours. You can always go with a universal unit.

Well, I couldn't find the universal model in their shop on Aliexpress...

Question Are you satisfied with your FYT headunit? Buying advice needed!

After owning multiple rockchip devices (last a PX5 headunit), I'm now in theprocess of buying a new radio.
Initially I wanted to go for a MTCD radio with a PX6 cpu and 4GB of ram, but now also found the FYT devices with UIS7862, 6GB RAM and 128GB ROM.
(Mekede M600s)
And as "more RAM" is always very helpful with Android devices in the long term, I'm interested.
I saw that the community and ROM developement is not as big as for the MTCD devices, but I do not need to have that, if the devices itself are stable/good.
So I wanted to ask you guys, if you are satisfied with your decision and if you would buy it again?
Anything I need to know, coming from a MTCD device?
My main usage would be: Google Maps, Spotify, Bluetooth Connection to my phone for calls, Youtube, so nothing to fancy.

Yes. I've written about this a bunch. Look for my posts
You really don't need a modified "hal/mal" ROM with FYT.
Buggy MTCD is dead, long live MTCD

Very happy with my Navifly 7862 4gb. GPS is terrific and can't recall an unexpected reboot. Radio app is a bit naff but bang for buck, I would do it again in a heartbeat.
Bluetooth to phone is seamless and hotspot from phone via macro works like a charm.
If you are the sort of person who looks to find fault, you probably won't be happy. If you just want a system that works for the most part and you know the interface limitations, you will be fine.

Icefeldt said:
After owning multiple rockchip devices (last a PX5 headunit), I'm now in theprocess of buying a new radio.
Initially I wanted to go for a MTCD radio with a PX6 cpu and 4GB of ram, but now also found the FYT devices with UIS7862, 6GB RAM and 128GB ROM.
(Mekede M600s)
And as "more RAM" is always very helpful with Android devices in the long term, I'm interested.
I saw that the community and ROM developement is not as big as for the MTCD devices, but I do not need to have that, if the devices itself are stable/good.
So I wanted to ask you guys, if you are satisfied with your decision and if you would buy it again?
Anything I need to know, coming from a MTCD device?
My main usage would be: Google Maps, Spotify, Bluetooth Connection to my phone for calls, Youtube, so nothing to fancy.
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I've been kind of keeping my eye on this too, but so far (to me anyway) it looks like
"same sh*t, different pile".
Meanwhile I was pleasantly surprised in my shift from px5 to px6. Px6 seems to be a fairly large upgrade as compared to px5.... runs smoother with a lot fewer bugs. Bluetooth is still a problem when trying to connect devices other than phone though
For me, I have a lot of gadgets connected to my system (tv, front cam, rear cam, dash cam, siriusXM tuner, OBD bluetooth adapter, OBD USB adapter...etc), and I find FYT is more restrictive and locked up when it comes to connecting all these peripherals. That was the make/break for me and is what made me decide to stick with mtcd

Bob_Sanders said:
I've been kind of keeping my eye on this too, but so far (to me anyway) it looks like
"same sh*t, different pile".
Meanwhile I was pleasantly surprised in my shift from px5 to px6. Px6 seems to be a fairly large upgrade as compared to px5.... runs smoother with a lot fewer bugs. Bluetooth is still a problem when trying to connect devices other than phone though
For me, I have a lot of gadgets connected to my system (tv, front cam, rear cam, dash cam, siriusXM tuner, OBD bluetooth adapter, OBD USB adapter...etc), and I find FYT is more restrictive and locked up when it comes to connecting all these peripherals. That was the make/break for me and is what made me decide to stick with mtcd
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I respectfully disagree. Ex. MTCD hardware developer here.
Context is everything.
What FYT processor/MCU did you compare.
I have the opposite experience and find my 7862UIS/MCU 53 = YIN far superior and without any of the issues you mention.
On my FYT platform, it is FAR less restrictive. The bonus is the processor is superior and has 4g built in!
Then there is the audio quality, my FYT is simply amazing.
Back to MTCx, isn't it the reason so many mods / modded ROMs exist - again with their horrible problems and daily reports of issues - for the MTCx platform, to fix bugs and get around restrictions. But don't take my work for it, read the MTCD forums and compare.

marchnz said:
I respectfully disagree. Ex. MTCD hardware developer here.
Context is everything.
What FYT processor/MCU did you compare.
I have the opposite experience and find my 7862UIS/MCU 53 = YIN far superior and without any of the issues you mention.
On my FYT platform, it is FAR less restrictive. The bonus is the processor is superior and has 4g built in!
Then there is the audio quality, my FYT is simply amazing.
Back to MTCx, isn't it the reason so many mods / modded ROMs exist - again with their horrible problems and daily reports of issues - for the MTCx platform, to fix bugs and get around restrictions. But don't take my work for it, read the MTCD forums and compare.
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Yeah, Thanks.
I read your other thread on your switch-over from mtcd with great interest. The problem I'm having is that you jumped ship at the PX5 level. I on the other hand went on to px6 from the px5, and there is no comparison between the two (both were Dasaita). The px6 is light-years ahead of the px5 both in terms of speed and stability. I used to have to do full reboots on the PX5 pretty much weekly to clear up the bugs. With the PX6 I have had to reboot maybe twice in the last 6 months.
I think to sum it up best, comparing the px5 to the px6 is about the same as comparing a 1960's black and white tv to a 60 inch lcd tv of today.
And with Dasaita in particular, the choice of input/output ability simply can not be beat. I have not seen another head unit which supplies the number of input/output jacks and plugs that Dasiata does.
Dedicated inputs for tpms, dash cam, front cam, and TV so I don't have to use up my USB slots. It also has dual subwoofer outputs so I don't have to weaken the signal with a Y splitter for my dual amps.
Now that being said, the new FYT machines do seem to have a slightly brighter screen which is always welcomed, and some also have digital audio outputs but that's not really something I would ever use.

Bob_Sanders said:
Yeah, Thanks.
I read your other thread on your switch-over from mtcd with great interest. The problem I'm having is that you jumped ship at the PX5 level. I on the other hand went on to px6 from the px5, and there is no comparison between the two (both were Dasaita). The px6 is light-years ahead of the px5 both in terms of speed and stability. I used to have to do full reboots on the PX5 pretty much weekly to clear up the bugs. With the PX6 I have had to reboot maybe twice in the last 6 months.
I think to sum it up best, comparing the px5 to the px6 is about the same as comparing a 1960's black and white tv to a 60 inch lcd tv of today.
And with Dasaita in particular, the choice of input/output ability simply can not be beat. I have not seen another head unit which supplies the number of input/output jacks and plugs that Dasiata does.
Dedicated inputs for tpms, dash cam, front cam, and TV so I don't have to use up my USB slots. It also has dual subwoofer outputs so I don't have to weaken the signal with a Y splitter for my dual amps.
Now that being said, the new FYT machines do seem to have a slightly brighter screen which is always welcomed, and some also have digital audio outputs but that's not really something I would ever use.
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Youll find exactly the same input wise and more on the FYT platform.

marchnz said:
Youll find exactly the same input wise and more on the FYT platform.
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Not on Joying or navifly. I looked. Maybe I'm missing these inputs?
Here's Dasaita..... a second DEDICATED plug set for
DVR (C)
TV (E)
TPMS (H)
Dual sub outputs (A)
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Bob_Sanders said:
Not on Joying or navifly. I looked. Maybe I'm missing these inputs?
Here's Dasaita..... a second DEDICATED plug set for
DVR (C)
TV (E)
TPMS (H)
Dual sub outputs (A)
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Look a little more on the latest FYT platform models.
All of these inputs are present or catered for with USB or AUX inputs, TPMS is USB for instance.
Also, FYT feature an optical out, which MTCx does not have.
You still haven't said what FYT you owned, context/specifics is really important.
The point is, the newer FYT units blow the MTCx units away in nearly every aspect, especially sound, while providing for the same features and more than the MTCx platform.

marchnz said:
Look a little more on the latest FYT platform models.
All of these inputs are present or catered for with USB or AUX inputs, TPMS is USB for instance.
Also, FYT feature an optical out, which MTCx does not have.
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Well... that's exactly what I am saying. Because of the dedicated inputs I don't have to use up my USB inputs, or my AUX inputs. I can use those for other things (which I do). Also, the supplied software is completely built around those inputs. The software knows exactly where to go. The TV module for example is automatically turned on/off, and tuned up when I bring up the TV app. It all operates in one smooth motion. The FYT units are just plain lacking in this respect.
As for the digital outputs... if you are going to go digital you need high quality dacs... and I wouldn't exactly call the electronics inside these machines... "high quality"
You still haven't said what FYT you owned, context/specifics is really important.
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I haven't owned one.... but that's my point with your argument... you haven't owned a PX6. You are comparing PX5 technology to the FYT. A cardboard box probably has higher quality and better sound than the PX5.
I have looked at FYT and the lack of input/output ability is the dealbreaker for me. To me these things aren't just Head units. They are central control centers... or at least that's what I bank on them for. If I was looking for a typical head unit I would go with Pioneer or Kenwood.

Bob_Sanders said:
Well... that's exactly what I am saying. Because of the dedicated inputs I don't have to use up my USB inputs, or my AUX inputs. I can use those for other things (which I do). Also, the supplied software is completely built around those inputs. The software knows exactly where to go. The TV module for example is automatically turned on/off, and tuned up when I bring up the TV app. It all operates in one smooth motion. The FYT units are just plain lacking in this respect.
As for the digital outputs... if you are going to go digital you need high quality dacs... and I wouldn't exactly call the electronics inside these machines... "high quality"
I haven't owned one.... but that's my point with your argument... you haven't owned a PX6. You are comparing PX5 technology to the FYT. A cardboard box probably has higher quality and better sound than the PX5.
I have looked at FYT and the lack of input/output ability is the dealbreaker for me. To me these things aren't just Head units. They are central control centers... or at least that's what I bank on them for. If I was looking for a typical head unit I would go with Pioneer or Kenwood.
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I think I was highly skeptical like you initially, the chinese origin headunits appear to be largely copies and reuse, with little improvements between generations. I was surprised at just how good, at least my unit is.
Disappointing you couldn't find an FYT unit that meets your needs, they really are great.
At least the FYT unit I have, which is an YIN 53 / Mekede has inputs you mention. It's also listed on the schematic diagram obtained from 4pda.
Regarding the optical output, consider optical provides a multichannel noise immune method to connect a power amp via a single "cable."
Don't forget the MCUs on the MTCx platform are the same between processors, also bugs are widely reported in the MTCD forums, including PX6.
Maybe we agree to disagree.

marchnz said:
Disappointing you couldn't find an FYT unit that meets your needs, they really are great.
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Disappointing to this point anyway.... they'll probably come around though in time.

I have owned several Joying units over the last 5 years or so, with generally good experiences. Last July/Aug I installed an SC 9853i in my Kluger/Highlander.
Recently a couple of things have gone pear shaped.
1) The google play store needs "uninstall updates" to function (had this with the older devices as well)
2) Waze and google maps are "freezing" sometimes very quickly sometimes after an hour.
3) The built in 4G has disappeared and I now only get 3G/H+ (this is subsequent a firmware update, which installed older modem firmware)
I have been unable to resolve these issues with Joying unfortunately.
They (Joying) were very good in the past sending me a new unit when the screen got a white ring around it, but really have had no luck with them resolving these issues.
I would probably buy a new device off them, but not the same device, the only problem is their website doesn't really have detailed enough information to make an assessment/comparison of the underlying hardware in each of their different models.

Found yet another reason to buy an FYT 7862UIS unit - Bluetooth Low Energy support.
My unit seamlessly connects to my Valentine One gen 2 radar locator. Every time. No hiccups, or pairing required.

dbmgreen said:
I have been unable to resolve these issues with Joying unfortunately.
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Sorry for going slightly off thread topic...
Did you try a reset? and then a firmware reload/update?
I had your first problem until I wiped the system and flashed the latest firmware (which was the same)
The apps freezing might indicate a temperature issue. See if it runs warm/hot?
I never used the 3g 4g module since I hotspot.

Icefeldt said:
if you are satisfied with your decision and if you would buy it again?
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Yea. I'm on my 2nd joying for my 2010 Rav4. I highly recommend getting one with buttons/knobs. Its very annoying to change volume by screen touching (even if you have steering controls). It seems the devices go thru these rounds of improvement that go like
Version 1 : great new screen, no buttons, no knobs
Version 2 : same new screen, touch buttons
Version 3 : same new screen, knobs and actual buttons
My only gripe is lack of customization of radio app, and the icons on the launcher have stupid large borders (wish the app icon was simply displayed)
I think they are coming out with a whole new ui

forgivegod said:
Sorry for going slightly off thread topic...
Did you try a reset? and then a firmware reload/update?
I had your first problem until I wiped the system and flashed the latest firmware (which was the same)
The apps freezing might indicate a temperature issue. See if it runs warm/hot?
I never used the 3g 4g module since I hotspot.
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Nah all good, have reset a number of times, and reloaded every version of firmware available to me. I only got the device in 2020 AUG, I feel like it may have had slightly different firmware on it (to what is available for download) based on the screenshots I sent to Joying when I was initially trying to troubleshoot. Yes even wiped completely twip_all.
I think its is running hot 70-90 degrees but this is a recent problem, it ran fine for 12 months.
We use (did use) 4G module for a hotspot in the car for all the passengers, it had worked seamlessly up until joying sent me their firmware
I wish I could identify what model they are selling for the 2018 Highlander, I would just buy a new one. I do like their product, and I'm currently 1 of three dodgy products with no resolution --- Chinese vendors

marchnz said:
Found yet another reason to buy an FYT 7862UIS unit - Bluetooth Low Energy support.
My unit seamlessly connects to my Valentine One gen 2 radar locator. Every time. No hiccups, or pairing required.
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What "brand" are you looking at

dbmgreen said:
What "brand" are you looking at
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ro.build.fytmanufacturer=116
MCU = NOR
Seller was Mekede. There is no "brand" on Android head units, only factory. You would be taking a gamble buying from any seller without asking for screenshots of the system info, they might ship a unit from any number of factories and therefore variants.

Question to the Joying owners in here ... Some people were complaining about the old Intel-based chip units from Joying having buggy firmware, I haven't really read this about the new UIS-based units. Did you notice noteworthy bootloops, bugs etc.?

Bought a PX4, not happy. Looking for a replacement.

Hi there,
Recently I bought a PX4 to replace my PX5 radio in my car, a Fiat Punto Evo. The PX5 did work as it should, but I was looking for something new and fresh. Since the PX4 is based on newer technology, and Android 11, I thought this was a step forward. This is an Isudar unit by the way.
However. I noticed the headunit isn't that great. I usually use 2-3 apps (Spotify, Google Maps/Waze and Flitsmeister, a navigational tool for speedtraps and so on) and the radio doesn't perform well when I have these apps opened. Google Maps crashes a lot of times, Flitsmeister freezes and when I want to go back to the homescreen, the screen flickers a few times back and forth. Also, it does reboot all of a sudden.
There is not a possibility to flash or update it since there is zero to little knowledge of the PX4. I'm thinking of the following options:
- Buy a PX6 board and swap it in
- Buy a PX6 headunit
- Maybe there is an alternative
What is a reliable brand in this sector? I see a lot of brands but I don't see the difference...
Cheers,
Jacco

There is no px4 and you don't say if it really is an MTCD type because you haven't posted enough information such as MCU type.
Brands mean little to nothing as the all sell from various factories and are no real "brands" for these Chinese units, only factories.
You want a 7862UIS FYT (4gb+) unit such as what mekede / navifly sell (type 116) These are much less buggy than mtcd type units and you don't need hacky modded firmware to make them work.

Well, there is, it's a RK3566 based one, MTCH_GS_V3.80_3.
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005003076011564.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.3d87355fOPaJSb&algo_pvid=d3ae804c-2a61-4fd9-80ae-8d3578cec8c8&algo_exp_id=d3ae804c-2a61-4fd9-80ae-8d3578cec8c8-16
I will look into those, thanks for that one!

Fryslanboy said:
Well, there is, it's a RK3566 based one, MTCH_GS_V3.80_3.
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005003076011564.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.3d87355fOPaJSb&algo_pvid=d3ae804c-2a61-4fd9-80ae-8d3578cec8c8&algo_exp_id=d3ae804c-2a61-4fd9-80ae-8d3578cec8c8-16
I will look into those, thanks for that one!
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Just for clarity, there is no PX4. The unit linked clearly lists PX6.
I no longer recommend the MTCx platform.

marchnz said:
Just for clarity, there is no PX4. The unit linked clearly lists PX6.
I no longer recommend the MTCx platform.
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Well, actually the details list two options, a PX4 one and a PX6...
But @marchnz is correct in both accounts
1) PX4 is something this guys invented, and is not widely used/accepted (yet). Regarding the CPU they are using, seems to be a slightly improvement/update to the PX5... but very slight improvement (newer tech, more speed per CPU, but less CPUs overall)
2) Even if you go to PX6, those CPUs are old compared to 7862UIS... so buying today a PX6 would be a bad investment. If you really want to reuse the unit and only invest on a CPU board, the only option will be to wait for those manufacturers to adopt the latest chip RK3588 (which has a version RK3588S that looks a lot like a car-oriented chip, even with a CAN bus interface). Of course, you might wait for months and there is no assurance that your MTC-H mainboard will be compatible with it.
By the way, PX5 and PX30 were real Rockchip car-oriented official products. I have never seen any Rockchip original document referring to RK3399 as PX6. I only see this nomenclature on the Android-Auto chinese sites. So, don't kill us if in a few weeks every chinese vendor starts to call RK3566 as PX4

Indeed, I thought the PX4 would be a slight improvement because of the newer technology, but the opposite is true, it's horrendous.
No, a PX6 would be a bad choice. the 7862UIS option would be great but I see nothing which would fit in my car, and waiting for the RK3588 could last a while with the current chip troubles.
I'm not going to kill anybody, no troubles

Fryslanboy said:
Indeed, I thought the PX4 would be a slight improvement because of the newer technology, but the opposite is true, it's horrendous.
No, a PX6 would be a bad choice. the 7862UIS option would be great but I see nothing which would fit in my car, and waiting for the RK3588 could last a while with the current chip troubles.
I'm not going to kill anybody, no troubles
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So, if not reusing the MCU is not a problem for you...what about looking for a 7862UIS with a screen that has the same physical size as your current unit?
All the plastic fascias/stereo-fronts are made (most probably) by the same factory, and then distributed to different radio-manufacturers. Its a very low margin manufacturing business that only works if you do runs with thousands of units produced... is not a business large enough to have multiple providers. So, most probably you will be able to take the fascia of your PX4 and adapt it to any unit (MTC or FYT) as far as the screens are the same size

Question Canbus Decoder

Hi, I was just wondering if a canbus decoder made for my car will work on any android head unit. I want to get the Teyes cc3 but it’s not compatible with the trim of my car so would it be possible to use a decoder from AliExpress to make it work. For reference I have the 2013 Honda Accord 9th gen EX-L

Just buy an FYT uis7862 the likes of what mekede, navifly and others sell.
Teyes is a con.

Midnighter427 said:
Hi, I was just wondering if a canbus decoder made for my car will work on any android head unit. I want to get the Teyes cc3 but it’s not compatible with the trim of my car so would it be possible to use a decoder from AliExpress to make it work. For reference I have the 2013 Honda Accord 9th gen EX-L
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Why buy a Teyes if even the trim is not correct?
Anyway: Contact Teyes. All those FYT units support 7-8 (more?) types of CANbus decoders. Just ask them which CANbus decoder would suit best for your car.

surfer63 said:
Why buy a Teyes if even the trim is not correct?
Anyway: Contact Teyes. All those FYT units support 7-8 (more?) types of CANbus decoders. Just ask them which CANbus decoder would suit best for your car.
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I already contacted Teyes and they only said I can only try but they don’t know if it will work. They weren’t able to give me any information. I also want the Teyes one because I think they have the best UI. Ossuret sells the head unit compatible for my trim of car so I’m just curious as to whether I can use a decoder on the Teyes head unit.

marchnz said:
Just buy an FYT uis7862 the likes of what mekede, navifly and others sell.
Teyes is a con.
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What’s wrong with Teyes? I think the closest think to teyes that I’d get if I can’t make teyes work is Ossuret since they provide compatibility and it’s most similar in UI and specs.

A similar question. If I buy any canbus for my Mokka will it work with a Teyes cc3.

Nigel517 said:
A similar question. If I buy any canbus for my Mokka will it work with a Teyes cc3.
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I ordered a canbus for my car and it should arrive by the end of the week so I’ll let you know how my experience goes.

Midnighter427 said:
What’s wrong with Teyes? I think the closest think to teyes that I’d get if I can’t make teyes work is Ossuret since they provide compatibility and it’s most similar in UI and specs.
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Teyes = locked ecosystem.
for one only approved hardware will work with their devices .

faria said:
Teyes = locked ecosystem.
for one only approved hardware will work with their devices .
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What do you mean by approved hardware?

Midnighter427 said:
What do you mean by approved hardware?
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like only their branded obd dongles work with their devices, no others.
TEYES CC3
TEYES has released a new flagship, the CC3 with the following specifications. UIS7862 (Unisoc ums512) SOC 8 core 12 nm big.LITTLE with 2 A75 and 6 A55 cores. Up to 6 GB memory and 128 GB of storage. 9 and 10.1 inch 1280 x 720 QLED +2.5D screen...
forum.xda-developers.com

faria said:
Teyes = locked ecosystem.
for one only approved hardware will work with their devices .
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What do you mean by approved hardware
faria said:
like only their branded obd dongles work with their devices, no others.
TEYES CC3
TEYES has released a new flagship, the CC3 with the following specifications. UIS7862 (Unisoc ums512) SOC 8 core 12 nm big.LITTLE with 2 A75 and 6 A55 cores. Up to 6 GB memory and 128 GB of storage. 9 and 10.1 inch 1280 x 720 QLED +2.5D screen...
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yeah but most obd2 can connect to phones or have their own screen nowadays.

Midnighter427 said:
What do you mean by approved hardware
yeah but most obd2 can connect to phones or have their own screen nowadays.
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Not just obds dongles!
Teyes is pulling an" Apple" by locking their hardware and software.
By that logic why buy one of these units when most cars have screens "nowadays " or you can just plaster you phone into your dash ,my advice to you, do your research about the unit you want to buy so you don't regret Iater. If the teyes one is what you want by all means get it.

Midnighter427 said:
I ordered a canbus for my car and it should arrive by the end of the week so I’ll let you know how my experience goes.
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Cheers. I've been offered a cc3 but it for a different car. I can buy a dedicated canbus ,leads and dash kit for my car quite cheaply on Ali express. I'm just wondering if they will work with the cc3

faria said:
Not just obds dongles!
Teyes is pulling an" Apple" by locking their hardware and software.
By that logic why buy one of these units when most cars have screens "nowadays " or you can just plaster you phone into your dash ,my advice to you, do your research about the unit you want to buy so you don't regret Iater. If the teyes one is what you want by all means get it.
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Honestly, the only reason I'm really pushing for the CC3 is cuz the UI just looks more flush and better than all other FYT units. I also saw a thread on here that allows you developer access for the cc3 with the pin code provided by another member. The CC3 really has everything I'd see myself needing, Play Store with access to youtube netflix spotify, etc. Obviously the Apple Carplay + Android Auto. Other than those things, I don't see myself needing anything more than that. But out of curiosity, what would I be able to do by getting an open FYT unit as opposed to the CC3 being closed?

Midnighter427 said:
Honestly, the only reason I'm really pushing for the CC3 is cuz the UI just looks more flush and better than all other FYT units. I also saw a thread on here that allows you developer access for the cc3 with the pin code provided by another member. The CC3 really has everything I'd see myself needing, Play Store with access to youtube netflix spotify, etc. Obviously the Apple Carplay + Android Auto. Other than those things, I don't see myself needing anything more than that. But out of curiosity, what would I be able to do by getting an open FYT unit as opposed to the CC3 being closed?
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I'm not versed enough to answer your question directly but there are some things like this (which Might also work on cc3).
I personally would avoid teyes because i like as much control over devices as possible (adds to future proofing imo)
[AllAppUpdate] PeaceOS - FYT UIS7862(s)/UIS8581a only for 1280x720
I give out a joke of humor... PeaceOS (beta) - FYT UIS7862(s)/UIS8581a only for 1280x720. Hello everyone, I present my draft assembly for the FYT UIS7862(s) platform with a resolution of 1280x720. I'm a beginner modder so don't expect too much...
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Also this
Pretty sure this won't work with cc3
[KERNEL] FYT 7862 and 8581 kernel MD-EDITION with FMC
Hi community I'm happy to introduce Kernel MD-EDITION for FYT 7862 units. This firmware is built into the latest kernel released on 2022-12-09. Internal mods: Improved SPRD parameters to use more GPU to render instead of consuming CPU for...
forum.xda-developers.com

Midnighter427 said:
Honestly, the only reason I'm really pushing for the CC3 is cuz the UI just looks more flush and better than all other FYT units. I also saw a thread on here that allows you developer access for the cc3 with the pin code provided by another member. The CC3 really has everything I'd see myself needing, Play Store with access to youtube netflix spotify, etc. Obviously the Apple Carplay + Android Auto. Other than those things, I don't see myself needing anything more than that. But out of curiosity, what would I be able to do by getting an open FYT unit as opposed to the CC3 being closed?
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All the FYT 7862 units offer everything you mentioned. They all have access to the same developer options. They all have the Play Store, with access to the same apps. They all have the carlink app giving access to Carplay & Android Auto.
The only physical thing the CC3 has that the others don't is a gyroscope which is only really used to make the image of a car turn on 1 of their launchers. The gyro can be added to any unit.
The main difference with the Teyes is their locked down eco system and their UI. If you think their UI is worth so much more money then yes buy the CC3.
Teyes do their firmware/kernels in a unique way where the apps (usually inside the AllAppUpdate.bin file) are embedded within the 6315_1.zip kernel.
It means you can only install updates from Teyes and every update pretty much wipes the unit.
Teyes have been breaking more than they've been fixing with their recent updates, with 1 of the latest ones breaking WiFi and GPS.
I prefer to have the ability to customize my unit, including using Marios excellent MD Edition kernel. I like having the option of downloading the most recent kernel no matter what reseller released it.
I can easily customise my unit to look similar to Teyes if I wanted.
The CC3 was nearly twice the price of what I paid for my Mekede/Navifly unit. I could add 100 gyroscopes for that price.
Personally I wouldn't pay twice the price for what is essentially just a theme/skin, with added restrictions.
The good thing is there's plenty of info around about the differences between Teyes and non Teyes FYT units for you to make a comparison.
It's your money so you have the option to buy whatever 1 you want.

j0hn83 said:
All the FYT 7862 units offer everything you mentioned. They all have access to the same developer options. They all have the Play Store, with access to the same apps. They all have the carlink app giving access to Carplay & Android Auto.
The only physical thing the CC3 has that the others don't is a gyroscope which is only really used to make the image of a car turn on 1 of their launchers. The gyro can be added to any unit.
The main difference with the Teyes is their locked down eco system and their UI. If you think their UI is worth so much more money then yes buy the CC3.
Teyes do their firmware/kernels in a unique way where the apps (usually inside the AllAppUpdate.bin file) are embedded within the 6315_1.zip kernel.
It means you can only install updates from Teyes and every update pretty much wipes the unit.
Teyes have been breaking more than they've been fixing with their recent updates, with 1 of the latest ones breaking WiFi and GPS.
I prefer to have the ability to customize my unit, including using Marios excellent MD Edition kernel. I like having the option of downloading the most recent kernel no matter what reseller released it.
I can easily customise my unit to look similar to Teyes if I wanted.
The CC3 was nearly twice the price of what I paid for my Mekede/Navifly unit. I could add 100 gyroscopes for that price.
Personally I wouldn't pay twice the price for what is essentially just a theme/skin, with added restrictions.
The good thing is there's plenty of info around about the differences between Teyes and non Teyes FYT units for you to make a comparison.
It's your money so you have the option to buy whatever 1 you want.
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I 100% agree with this post.
No wrong: I 200% agree with this post.

Question Teyes CC3 Vs Mekede m700s

So I have done alot of RTFF... But I can't seem to get a good picture of what the best option is for my cars aftermarket head unit needs.
Alot of the posts are either pro Teyes or pro Mekede but mostly I am finding just vauge reasons why its not a good idea to go with the Mekede in the Teyes threads and vice versa.
From a hardware stand point it seems like m700s is the way to go (8gigs of ram vs cc3's 6 gigs). Though the m700s claims android 11 and that puts a negative light on it since thats untrue
The UI looks more polished in the CC3 and it seems like Teyes support their issues better. (Please correct me if they is incorrect)
Now on top of that, security is a bit of an issue to me. Are either of these units going to be calling home and dumping data to a server in China? I would assume teyes has the upper hand here as they wrote everything themselves. Am I off base with that?
I also know that teyes locks down their system and you have to pay for some extras if you want them. What kind of things do you have to pay for??
On the other side Mekede sees to have more bugs/issues.
I was hoping to hear from both sides with a little in depth detail of the pros and cons.
I should also note this is just for my car. I dont really have any intention right now of rooting and customizing what ever unit I get. But that could easily change if something pisses me off and suddenly I feel the need to root and make changes.
I would love to hear your thoughts.

You have already mentioned all arguments in your own post.
Alternet1 said:
Now on top of that, security is a bit of an issue to me. Are either of these units going to be calling home and dumbing data to a server in China? I would assume teyes has the upper hand here as they wrote everything themselves. Am I off base with that?
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I only want to make a few remarks on above statements.
To start with the second: T'eyes is FYT, just like Mekede. T'eyes does not write everything themselves. They do modify some of the apps, add some own apps and change the partition scheme, next to being a slightly more "closed" platform. That makes them the odd one out. Some think that is positive, some don't.
For the dumping of data on Chinese servers: On the Sofia units (2015-2016) we did analyze the software and found routines and server names that could dump data to that servers. When doing network sniffing on those units while on the bench in "some" network, there was no data going to these servers.
I personally did not check this anymore on the sc9853i and the uis7862. I guess it is not important enough.
Both reseller brand of units are good quality, when referring to Chinese low cost units.
If you want a good unit you should also look at Joying, next to Mekede and Teyes.
Do not only look at "fancy, shiny" launchers: Does it only look nice or is it also flexible in use? Some of those fancy launchers are very rigid in use. Take a good look at that.
But even more: look at one of those reseller that offers the best fit for your car and dashboard.
In the end it all comes down to personal taste.

surfer63 said:
You have already mentioned all arguments in your own post.
I only want to make a few remarks on above statements.
To start with the second: T'eyes is FYT, just like Mekede. T'eyes does not write everything themselves. They do modify some of the apps, add some own apps and change the partition scheme, next to being a slightly more "closed" platform. That makes them the odd one out. Some think that is positive, some don't.
For the dumping of data on Chinese servers: On the Sofia units (2015-2016) we did analyze the software and found routines and server names that could dump data to that servers. When doing network sniffing on those units while on the bench in "some" network, there was no data going to these servers.
I personally did not check this anymore on the sc9853i and the uis7862. I guess it is not important enough.
Both reseller brand of units are good quality, when referring to Chinese low cost units.
If you want a good unit you should also look at Joying, next to Mekede and Teyes.
Do not only look at "fancy, shiny" launchers: Does it only look nice or is it also flexible in use? Some of those fancy launchers are very rigid in use. Take a good look at that.
But even more: look at one of those reseller that offers the best fit for your car and dashboard.
In the end it all comes down to personal taste.
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Thank you for easing my mind about the security issues!

What kind of things need to be paid extra for on the CC3 (That you wouldnt have to on other systems)? Cant seem to find much of an answer on that.