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I've looked through other posts about this and nothing seems to help. I went to actually UNroot my Xoom so I can install the latest update because I had no use for a root, but when I went to do fastboot flash system system.img with the stock .img file, it takes forever then gives me an error... I don't know how to get past this. I just want my Xoom back to normal, even if I can get it back to a rooted normal I can live with that.
(Also, the first first time I tried unrooting, I realized I used the wrong device files. I used the Verizon ones, when I only have WiFi.)
Somebody please help me, or I feel like I have an expensive paperweight.
Also, whenever I go to restart, I'm stuck at the boot logo screen and no matter which boot.img I flash, it won't go past it.
hocplyr98 said:
I've looked through other posts about this and nothing seems to help. I went to actually UNroot my Xoom so I can install the latest update because I had no use for a root, but when I went to do fastboot flash system system.img with the stock .img file, it takes forever then gives me an error... I don't know how to get past this. I just want my Xoom back to normal, even if I can get it back to a rooted normal I can live with that.
(Also, the first first time I tried unrooting, I realized I used the wrong device files. I used the Verizon ones, when I only have WiFi.)
Somebody please help me, or I feel like I have an expensive paperweight.
Also, whenever I go to restart, I'm stuck at the boot logo screen and no matter which boot.img I flash, it won't go past it.
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Did you have ClockworkMod recovery installed? If so, do you know how to boot into CWM recovery? Disconnect from thr computer if connected, and press power and volume up to hard reboot and when you get to the dual core image, wait about three seconds, then press volume down and you should see android recovery in upper left corner, then press volume up and press power to select it.
I'm suggesting this in the hope that you did a nandroid backup before you decided to mess around and that you could somehow still access it.
If not, do you now have the correct system image files in your platforms or tools folder in order to flash from fastboot? Can you get to the "starting fastboot protocol?"
Look for your correct 3.2 wifi images here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080963
Commands:
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot erase cache
Good luck!
okantomi said:
Can you get to the "starting fastboot protocol" screen?
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yes if you somehow get into fast boot your problems can be solved.
I do not know whether by pressing vol up at boot time you can go to fastboot protocol screen.
okantomi said:
Did you have ClockworkMod recovery installed? If so, do you know how to boot into CWM recovery? Disconnect from thr computer if connected, and press power and volume up to hard reboot and when you get to the dual core image, wait about three seconds, then press volume down and you should see android recovery in upper left corner, then press volume up and press power to select it.
I'm suggesting this in the hope that you did a nandroid backup before you decided to mess around and that you could somehow still access it.
If not, do you now have the correct system image files in your platforms or tools folder in order to flash from fastboot? Can you get to the "starting fastboot protocol?"
Look for your correct 3.2 wifi images here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080963
Commands:
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot erase cache
Good luck!
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Not sure if I have CWM installed, but I can access fastboot and that's not really helping. I'll try again with the link you provided, but I'm able to flash everything BUT system.img. I'll try again and get back to you.
UPDATE: Yeah... It's doing the exact same thing. It's stuck at fastboot flash system system.img. It just says that it's sending it and it takes a long time before an error message pops up saying that there are too many links.
UPDATE UPDATE: Okay, now, even in fastboot, it doesn't let me flash boot.img. I don't know what to do anymore
hocplyr98 said:
Not sure if I have CWM installed, but I can access fastboot and that's not really helping. I'll try again with the link you provided, but I'm able to flash everything BUT system.img. I'll try again and get back to you.
UPDATE: Yeah... It's doing the exact same thing. It's stuck at fastboot flash system system.img. It just says that it's sending it and it takes a long time before an error message pops up saying that there are too many links.
UPDATE UPDATE: Okay, now, even in fastboot, it doesn't let me flash boot.img. I don't know what to do anymore
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This is where you need to talk to the experts. Go to #xoom at freenode.net and get some assistance.
okantomi said:
This is where you need to talk to the experts. Go to #xoom at freenode.net and get some assistance.
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Not very much help from the "experts" there. I was completely ignored, and nobody responded to me...
hocplyr98 said:
Not very much help from the "experts" there. I was completely ignored, and nobody responded to me...
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It's impossible to brick a Xoom. You can make or buy a factory cable and flash stock images from Motorola and follow up with OTA upgrades or flash whatever custom stuff you desire. The below links should save your Xoom. Don't forget to hit the thanks button
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077414
http://developer.motorola.com/products/software/?pubid=987654
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108518
Although if you're going to give up and aren't comfortable to continue working with it I would be very interested in purchasing it, you can PM me if interested.
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Although if you're going to give up and aren't comfortable to continue working with it I would be very interested in purchasing it, you can PM me if interested.
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Keep an eye out on ebay, I just got a xoom on there with launcher force closing repeatedly for $264
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davidsos said:
It's impossible to brick a Xoom. You can make or buy a factory cable and flash stock images from Motorola and follow up with OTA upgrades or flash whatever custom stuff you desire. The below links should save your Xoom. Don't forget to hit the thanks button
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077414
http://developer.motorola.com/products/software/?pubid=987654
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108518
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Not impossible but not as likely as you would think with the 100 "I think I bricked My xoom threads floating around.
To the OP...if you do not even know whether clockwork modified recovery is installed on your device then I am not sure you have the knowledge necessary to be messing with your device...I guess most people need to learn the hard way...
- This is pretty much an exact duplicate of a thread I posted on Xoomfoums, but I think it maybe better here...
Anyway, really looking for a miracle!! I got my xoom back from Moto yesterday for the 4G upgrade and I tried to root the device the same way I have done before. I got as far as unlocking it. The last thing I flashed was a “bootloader_patch” from a guide on Xoomforums. Now I’m stuck and I only found one person who had this issue …… he returned his device for a new one
So summary thus far.
- I can get into Fastboot support and flashing always yields “success”.
- I seem to have no ADB connectivity. (don’t know if I really need it for fixing this issue since I can fastboot and flash).
- I have tried, stock images, CWM recoveries, rogue recoveries, also some HLK75 imgs, etc!! All leave me at the same place.
Where am I stuck:
- I reboot and let it go normally and she hangs at “Moto screen”
- I reboot and tap the “volume down” leaves our three choices….
-- Android recovery -> tried to enter recovery and sits at the famous “Reading ODM fuse:1”
-- Fastboot -> That works, I can flash from here OK
-- RSD support -> Haven’t played with that, I have read people going to dark places when they screw with this. If I have to I’ll do so carefully.
All the methods of going back to OEM are epic fails. Nothing new happens, but I am always left with the same result.
Any help you could lend would be greatly appreciated!! I really would rather truck through this than return it however I’m afraid if I don’t get rid of it soon it will be harder for me to make an excuse to the retailer.
Thanks - John
jadkar said:
- This is pretty much an exact duplicate of a thread I posted on Xoomfoums, but I think it maybe better here...
Anyway, really looking for a miracle!! I got my xoom back from Moto yesterday for the 4G upgrade and I tried to root the device the same way I have done before. I got as far as unlocking it. The last thing I flashed was a “bootloader_patch” from a guide on Xoomforums. Now I’m stuck and I only found one person who had this issue …… he returned his device for a new one
So summary thus far.
- I can get into Fastboot support and flashing always yields “success”.
- I seem to have no ADB connectivity. (don’t know if I really need it for fixing this issue since I can fastboot and flash).
- I have tried, stock images, CWM recoveries, rogue recoveries, also some HLK75 imgs, etc!! All leave me at the same place.
Where am I stuck:
- I reboot and let it go normally and she hangs at “Moto screen”
- I reboot and tap the “volume down” leaves our three choices….
-- Android recovery -> tried to enter recovery and sits at the famous “Reading ODM fuse:1”
-- Fastboot -> That works, I can flash from here OK
-- RSD support -> Haven’t played with that, I have read people going to dark places when they screw with this. If I have to I’ll do so carefully.
All the methods of going back to OEM are epic fails. Nothing new happens, but I am always left with the same result.
Any help you could lend would be greatly appreciated!! I really would rather truck through this than return it however I’m afraid if I don’t get rid of it soon it will be harder for me to make an excuse to the retailer.
Thanks - John
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When it sits at "Reading ODM Fuse1" can you press power to see if it will select that option and take you into CWM recovery (assuming you have that installed)?
When you say you are flashing from fastboot protocol, are you connected to your pc? What are you flashing? I'm a bit lost with your description...
^^^
Thanks for the reply. Good suggestion on the power button.. press as its sitting at "Reading ODM fuse:1" but....... not good
So I didn't list all the things I have flashed because I tried many many fixes from multiple guides. I could look through all the links if you want the exact names but none of the made a difference. Yes, flashing from my PC connected via USB.
So after the first root guide blew it up I tried to flash a bunch of recoveries and system images. I also tried to bring her all the way back to OEM using the appropriate guide. No matter what I flashed I was given a successful message but it still gets stuck at the same screens. Nothing gives me any different results. I'm wondering if the actual bootloader is hosed. If so can you flash a new bootloader?
Here's some stuff I have flashed along with some links....
recovery-Tiamat-R4c-100611-1150-cwm.img
MZ600_HRI66_OEM_Image
how to root guide that I origianlly followed.... http://www.xoomforums.com/forum/mot...ow-root-3g-4g-wifi-only-xoom-stock-3-1-a.html
Someone got the build img after the LTE upgrade, so I tried this....
http://www.xoomforums.com/forum/xoo...rade-stuck-recovery-reading-odm-fuse-1-a.html
I also tried from fastboot erasing all the partitions before I flashed them and that didn't help.
Thanks for your time!!
jadkar said:
^^^
Thanks for the reply. Good suggestion on the power button.. press as its sitting at "Reading ODM fuse:1" but....... not good
So I didn't list all the things I have flashed because I tried many many fixes from multiple guides. I could look through all the links if you want the exact names but none of the made a difference. Yes, flashing from my PC connected via USB.
So after the first root guide blew it up I tried to flash a bunch of recoveries and system images. I also tried to bring her all the way back to OEM using the appropriate guide. No matter what I flashed I was given a successful message but it still gets stuck at the same screens. Nothing gives me any different results. I'm wondering if the actual bootloader is hosed. If so can you flash a new bootloader?
Here's some stuff I have flashed along with some links....
recovery-Tiamat-R4c-100611-1150-cwm.img
MZ600_HRI66_OEM_Image
how to root guide that I origianlly followed.... http://www.xoomforums.com/forum/mot...ow-root-3g-4g-wifi-only-xoom-stock-3-1-a.html
Someone got the build img after the LTE upgrade, so I tried this....
http://www.xoomforums.com/forum/xoo...rade-stuck-recovery-reading-odm-fuse-1-a.html
I also tried from fastboot erasing all the partitions before I flashed them and that didn't help.
Thanks for your time!!
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Well, you are flashing wildly but not well, (JK)
This thread should help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1299485
Here is a great post by Saintfyre (I think it fits the bill):
"Yeah join the FUBAR Club.
I was in the same boat as you did the same thing.
I now have my Xoom back to HLK75C and have 4G/3G and Wifi connectivity again so all is not lost!
What I did to fix my situation:
-I wiped the Device and just went through Solarnz's Root Method here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074979.
-Download the HLK75C (This is the build the 4G Xoom's shipped back with) file that AceXMachine provided here, post #6
-Extract the File to your Android SDK Platform-Tools folder, password is AceXMachine
-Follow his instructions to apply the images. I copy pasted but all credit goes to him for putting this out there.
On Windows shift and right click the Platform-Tools folder -> Open Command Window here.
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot reboot
After following all of this I had my Xoom back just like it had come back from Moto after the upgrade. I've since then flashed the Tiamat Tachi OC GPU Kernel to have Overclocking again. No issues since then, have full 4G/3G Connectivity and Wifi has no issues as well."
From this thread:
Yup.....I tried that one as well, it didn't work either.
I really think the bootloader is shot. Is there a way to repair it? I think what killed this was the last .zip file I updated as part of the root guide I was using, it was "bootloader_patch.zip" found here..... Bootloader_patch Does anyone know what this does??
**edit: Is the boot.img the bootloader?? If so ... forget it as I already tried flashing a couple new ones during my attempts to bring it back to OEM.
So my logic now is rather than keep flashing like crazy let me try and get recovery working. For this I will try and erase everything using fastboot (my only option) and then flash a boot.img and a recovery.img
Questions:
- Will keeping everything earsed from the device except for a boot.img and a recovery.img allow me to get into recovery? I want the minimum amount of partitions flashed. I want to just work slowly and systematically trying to get into recovery first.
- I do not have ADB support, can this be a hint? Shouldn't adb support be working or do you need to have somthing in the system / app partition for ADB to communicate with. I know its called Android debugging bridge so the name makes me believe that I need an android OS loaded and this is why my ADB doesn't work.
Please take a look below and let me know if anyone has any suggestions on different boot.img or recovery.img Ihave not tried. Also, I'm wodnering which ones I should try in combination.
Going forward I'm going to keep track of each combination I try as to avoid duplicated / wasted effort.
recoveries I have tried:recovery-Tiamat-R4c-100611-1150-cwm.img
recovery image from steady Hawkin (3g/4g Stock Images for HR166)
Rogue-recovery image from rogue-recovery-1.2.0
Boot images I have tried:boot from steady Hawkin (3g/4g Stock Images for HR166)
boot from AxeMachine HLK75Csystemboot
boot from AxeMachine HLK42Bsystemboot4g
jadkar said:
So my logic now is rather than keep flashing like crazy let me try and get recovery working. For this I will try and erase everything using fastboot (my only option) and then flash a boot.img and a recovery.img
Questions:
- Will keeping everything earsed from the device except for a boot.img and a recovery.img allow me to get into recovery? I want the minimum amount of partitions flashed. I want to just work slowly and systematically trying to get into recovery first.
- I do not have ADB support, can this be a hint? Shouldn't adb support be working or do you need to have somthing in the system / app partition for ADB to communicate with. I know its called Android debugging bridge so the name makes me believe that I need an android OS loaded and this is why my ADB doesn't work.
Please take a look below and let me know if anyone has any suggestions on different boot.img or recovery.img Ihave not tried. Also, I'm wodnering which ones I should try in combination.
Going forward I'm going to keep track of each combination I try as to avoid duplicated / wasted effort.
recoveries I have tried:recovery-Tiamat-R4c-100611-1150-cwm.img
recovery image from steady Hawkin (3g/4g Stock Images for HR166)
Rogue-recovery image from rogue-recovery-1.2.0
Boot images I have tried:boot from steady Hawkin (3g/4g Stock Images for HR166)
boot from AxeMachine HLK75Csystemboot
boot from AxeMachine HLK42Bsystemboot4g
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How have you flashed zip files without ClockworkMod recovery? It's hard to brick a Xoom but you may be close.
If there is anyway to flash your device's stock images through fastboot, that is your best hope at this point.
okantomi said:
How have you flashed zip files without ClockworkMod recovery? It's hard to brick a Xoom but you may be close.
If there is anyway to flash your device's stock images through fastboot, that is your best hope at this point.
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Yeah, so I have another thread running on xoomforums and I have explained over there that just about 30 minutes ago I erased everything and reflashed the "HRI66" files. I used everything from that build so there was just the stock recovery, etc. I even did a fastboot oem lock. This didn't work either.
After this I was able to return to fastboot and "unlock", so now I am just back to where I was before.
Me and one other dude think I have a corrupetd / damaged partition or semi-destroyed bootloader. The thing is I can't get an answer to a real simple question.....
is the bootloader a "flashable" component?? I'm not sure if the boot.img IS the bootloader or the bootloader is something else that's not flashable at all. If the later is true then maybe my bootloader is FUBAR.
Thanks!! John
I'm the other guy jadkar was referring to from Xoomforums. He's pretty much put it succinctly but here's my version
ggrant & fish over at Xoomforums suggested we PM solarnz (etal) or post over here for help. I am writing this for myself and another Xoom user. We've both sent our Xoom's to Moto for the 4G upgrade, received them back with 3.2.2, and then proceded to root the wrong ROM over the top. The result was a hang at the red Logo. In hindsight, we should have used Universal Root.
We've both exhausted the experience at Xoomforum (hence our plea here Anything you can suggest would be most appreciated. Personally, I think something is awry in the recovery partition size (perhaps changed by Moto at the upgrade?):
To save the basic suggestions off the bat, we've done the expected already: Installed moto's drivers, tried new cables, AND an entirely different computer. We've tried completely erasing boot, system, recovery, cache and userdata partitions, and flashing back the stock HRI66 images with fastboot.
ADB doesn't recognize the 'devices' command, only fastboot see's the Xoom. Accordingly, the only way to get into fastboot protocol is to Vol Up + power, and wait the three seconds and toggle. We can both toggle (with Vol) into Recovery, RSD and Fastboot). After flashing MULTIPLE flavours of Recovery images, the result is always the same: Recovery hangs reading fuse: 1. There's never the Recovery menu or graphic of the the Droid robot.
As for RSD, I've tried all the way through RSD Lite 5.0 with the thought of using solarnz' (I think) recovery.SBF. The result there is always the same as well: By toggling into RSD mode (Vol+Power into RSD), RSD Lite see's the device OK, but shows an error stating initialization values cannot be read. Note this occurs immediately upon plugging the Xoom in, even before TRYING the SBF file, which BTW, fails even if you try.
Via fastboot, we can oem lock and unlock (note however that in the command window, it states that it failed due to too many links, the the action seems to have worked on the Xoom anyway.)
So, it's down to THIS; the common thread for both of us is that we cannot successfully get into recovery, no way, no how. Again, ADB won't recognize the Xoom, only Fastboot
Any help would be APPRECIATED!
P.S. John, if we don't get help here, I have a 9mm with two spare rounds (for the Xoom's, not us!)
^^^
Thanks .... we'll see if anyone bites.... I hope so
As for the 9mm ........ Thanks but I have a flight this morning and I'm seriously thinking about dropping the Xoom out my plane from lets say 3500ft!!
LOL! Safe flight.
Guys, you all are crazy!
I appreciate your resourcefulness, but it sounds like you're almost out of options, lol.
If you can get to 'starting fastboot protocol' you are not bricked. If you cannot connect your Xoom via adb while your Xoom is in fastboot, it usually indicates that there is something wrong /missing from your setup.
Are you sure you have all your moto drivers installed and the proper image files in your platform tools (or tools folder) and you are actually in the right directory when opening the command window?
Please try to follow the instructions in the following
thread before you commit mayhem on your innocent Xooms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798 for setting up everything you need to ensure that adb will work and a proven method to install cwm recovery and root once you have been able to get back to a proper stock image. What I can't find at this moment are the 4G stock image files. You need the following to flash through adb/fastboot: system.img, boot.img, recovery.img, and userdata.img.from the Honeycomb 3.2.2 4G Xoom.
Commands to use:
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot reboot
Don't give up...good luck!
Found out another guy tried 2 different PC's and it did the same thing. He even reloaded android sdk. He decided to try a 3rd PC that he had to load sdk to. It worked! So he found there is an issue somewhere with his 2 PC's sdk or windows install. When I got my xoom in June sdk would see it, but I never rooted at that time. However I did update and install all the new stuff for sdk.
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okantomi said:
Guys, you all are crazy!
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Probably... That's half the fun!
okantomi said:
Are you sure you have all your moto drivers installed and the proper image files in your platform tools (or tools folder) and you are actually in the right directory when opening the command window?
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Most assuredly. I develop Android apps with Eclipse. I know how to use SDK.
okantomi said:
Please try to follow the instructions in the following
thread before you commit mayhem on your innocent Xooms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798
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Too late, mayhem already commited!
okantomi said:
What I can't find at this moment are the 4G stock image files.
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That would be the ONLY thing we haven't tried. I know how to lock/unlock, flash images, etc. We've both done all of your above instructions to the letter. I've already replaced my Xoom and it's at Moto having 4G surgery, so I can't do any more of this now. John will have to try again, but as (I hope) you've already read above, the status quo techniques are not working.
Any clues about why a successfully flashed recovery image isn't working?
okantomi said:
..... If you cannot connect your Xoom via adb while your Xoom is in fastboot, it usually indicates that there is something wrong /missing from your setup.
Are you sure you have all your moto drivers installed and the proper image files in your platform tools (or tools folder) and you are actually in the right directory when opening the command window?
Please try to follow the instructions in the following
thread before you commit mayhem on your innocent Xooms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798 for setting up everything you need to ensure that adb will work and a proven method to install cwm recovery and root once you have been able to get back to a proper stock image. What I can't find at this moment are the 4G stock image files. You need the following to flash through adb/fastboot: system.img, boot.img, recovery.img, and userdata.img.from the Honeycomb 3.2.2 4G Xoom.
Commands to use:
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot reboot
Don't give up...good luck!
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Lots of stuff to answer back here, please don't mind the bullet points....
from your guide... "Did your device not show up? Make sure that you have USB debugging enabled in Settings/Applications/Development on your Xoom."
- I have no devices connected when typing ADB devices and based on the above how can I make sure I have USB debugging enabled if I can't even get to the Android OS??? I have fastboot support that's it, I don't think its possible for me to get ADB to connect with all the partitions erased. ADB or "Android Debugging Bridge", the name implies you NEED android on the device to use it. I don't have android since the system partition was erased.
- I have two different 4g images from AceXMachine's posts. However his build posts only have system.img and boot.img. So based on your instructions I need to know what userdata.img and recovery.img I should use.
- I keep asking and I will continue until I get an answer on the next question..... I think the bootloader is screwed up. I want a new one (or at least the one that came from my 4g upgrade). Where can I find one? How do I flash it? Is this synonymous with the boot.img?
Thanks!!!
Well, your issues are way, way, way beyond the scope of my limited knowledge, lol!
Have you tried to chat with the developers on #Xoom on freenode.net? Bigrushdog and solarnz are both really nice and so is SteadyHawkin, if he's on there. Someone may be able to help.
Good luck!
Flash it back to stock moto!!!! Then start over with bringing your xoom to 3.2.2!!!! That is why you can't get anywhere! You keep killing off everything! AceXMachine did the same as you and he has his xoom back to 3.2.2. Or send it to moto and pay them to flash you back. You are not doing it right period! You have posted the same issue and people have tried helping, but you seem to want to keep going into rsd and other crap you don't need. The baseband is in the boot.img. Flash the hir66 then update to the hlk75c.
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hammer4203 said:
Flash it back to stock moto!!!! Then start over with bringing your xoom to 3.2.2!!!! That is why you can't get anywhere! You keep killing off everything! AceXMachine did the same as you and he has his xoom back to 3.2.2. Or send it to moto and pay them to flash you back. You are not doing it right period! You have posted the same issue and people have tried helping, but you seem to want to keep going into rsd and other crap you don't need. The baseband is in the boot.img. Flash the hir66 then update to the hlk75c.
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mmmkay... well THAT was a little terse. Don't you think returning to the HRI66 stock was the FIRST thing we tried? We downloaded the stock images from the provided links, checked the MD5, and then did this:
adb reboot bootloader
Xoom will then reboot into bootloader screen
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash userdata userdata.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem lock
Use volume rocker to select ok and then xoom will reboot. At this point you should be back to a factory state which includes being locked and unrooted.
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Isn't THAT what you suggested? Yes? No?
^^Hammer....
I know this threads is really long and probably didn't read all of it (don't blame you) but a while back I explained that I did try and flash everything in Steadyhawkn' HIR66 build. I flashed the 4 images included (boot, system, userdata, recovery) I also went as far as an OEM lock at the end. This did nothing. I tried this a couple times.
Can someone lead me to the patience pool; I need a drink.
I flashed a CM based ROM, and decided to get back to Slimkat. Opened my recovery ( Philz CWM ) wiped everything, and now tried to restore my nandroid ! And suddenly Im on Can't mount /sdcard ! I can't even flash a new ROM or do anything, I get stuck on Google's boot logo if I want to get to the ROM.
Let's note that I had no USB debug checked as I was only checking out the newly flashed ROM. So am I literally in a dead situation? Anyone please may help ?
Ensifolk said:
I flashed a CM based ROM, and decided to get back to Slimkat. Opened my recovery ( Philz CWM ) wiped everything, and now tried to restore my nandroid ! And suddenly Im on Can't mount /sdcard ! I can't even flash a new ROM or do anything, I get stuck on Google's boot logo if I want to get to the ROM.
Let's note that I had no USB debug checked as I was only checking out the newly flashed ROM. So am I literally in a dead situation? Anyone please may help ?
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Clean fastboot install :/ Solved the issue for me
try and format cache. If still no luck, fastboot flash cache cache.img
rootSU said:
try and format cache. If still no luck, fastboot flash cache cache.img
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Can I still fastboot even if I have no USB debugging enabled? The phone will interact with the commands normally? ( Since as I mentioned before I flashed the ROM only to check out and played with no settings at all, didnt know this is going to happen )
Ensifolk said:
Can I still fastboot even if I have no USB debugging enabled?
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fastboot commands are done in the bootloader. USB debugging is an Android setting. The 2 are not related even in the slightest.
rootSU said:
fastboot commands are done in the bootloader. USB debugging is an Android setting. The 2 are not related even in the slightest.
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Thank you sir ! Im sorry to go further saying that I have never used fastboot even thought this is my third nexus device, the regular way of me having a Nexus is using a toolkit on day one to Unlock/Root and then the rest is always done to me on a Recovery !
I am currently downloading the Factory Image to flash it via fastboot ( There are instructions on how to do that ) But will delete everything on my phone.
Is there a way I can save myself right now without any loss? Via fastboot commands? And how can I do it? ( Im really sorry for taking your time and mixing my inexperience )
You'd be a life saver hehe
Ensifolk said:
Thank you sir ! Im sorry to go further saying that I have never used fastboot even thought this is my third nexus device, the regular way of me having a Nexus is using a toolkit on day one to Unlock/Root and then the rest is always done to me on a Recovery !
I am currently downloading the Factory Image to flash it via fastboot ( There are instructions on how to do that ) But will delete everything on my phone.
Is there a way I can save myself right now without any loss? Via fastboot commands? And how can I do it? ( Im really sorry for taking your time and mixing my inexperience )
You'd be a life saver hehe
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Dont flash the entire factory image.
just use the
fastboot flash cache cache.img
Then you won't wipe the device.
This is why not to use toolkits. fastboot is essential basic knowledge and using toolkits means you dont get to learn it
rootSU said:
Dont flash the entire factory image.
just use the
fastboot flash cache cache.img
Then you won't wipe the device.
This is why not to use toolkits. fastboot is essential basic knowledge and using toolkits means you dont get to learn it
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You are totally right about that I should learn about it ! Hahaha. Okay, I opened a command promt and I am in the bootloader, where should I get the cache.img from? And should I place it in a certain folder? cause apparently I tried doing this command and it didn't work, I guess i have to get the cache.img from somewhere ( Im really sorry mate...Thanks again )
Ensifolk said:
You are totally right about that I should learn about it ! Hahaha. Okay, I opened a command promt and I am in the bootloader, where should I get the cache.img from? And should I place it in a certain folder? cause apparently I tried doing this command and it didn't work, I guess i have to get the cache.img from somewhere ( Im really sorry mate...Thanks again )
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Have a read of the "how to flash a factory image" thread in general. Just remember, dont follow it blindly as you'll flash the whole factory image.
rootSU said:
Have a read of the "how to flash a factory image" thread in general. Just remember, dont follow it blindly as you'll flash the whole factory image.
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Promise this is the last question I hope. I am actually on that page. I have downloaded the factory image BUT when I extract it via Winrar I only get a one file as an output (hammerhead-kot49h-factory-02006b99)
EDIT: I renamed the extracted file to .zip and extracted again, now I have the files displayed on that page...Trying to figure out now how to flash the cache.img
Ensifolk said:
Promise this is the last question I hope. I am actually on that page. I have downloaded the factory image BUT when I extract it via Winrar I only get a one file as an output (hammerhead-kot49h-factory-02006b99)
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Extract it again.
Ensifolk said:
Promise this is the last question I hope. I am actually on that page. I have downloaded the factory image BUT when I extract it via Winrar I only get a one file as an output (hammerhead-kot49h-factory-02006b99)
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Its a .tar file. Extract it again
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I successfully flashed cache.img But the problem is still there in my recovery, can't mound /sdcard
Think I have to flash the whole factory image ? :-/
Ensifolk said:
I successfully flashed cache.img But the problem is still there in my recovery, can't mound /sdcard
Think I have to flash the whole factory image ? :-/
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Maybe. Can you mount /data?
If so you can adb pull your photos etc off there from data/media/0 - otherwise no such luck
You can find instructions here if you need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534010
Ensifolk said:
I successfully flashed cache.img But the problem is still there in my recovery, can't mound /sdcard
Think I have to flash the whole factory image ? :-/
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I think you'v nothing to loose by flashing the whole factory image. If /sdcard can't be mounted in this situation, I think that's because you did (or a toolkit) did something wrong and break it. I don't think that you'll be able to save anything.
(It's my point of view. Maybe somebody else has an idea ?)
rootSU said:
Maybe. Can you mount /data?
If so you can adb pull your photos etc off there from data/media/0 - otherwise no such luck
You can find instructions here if you need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534010
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I cannot mount /data even after flashing cache.img - Hence I think I am dead by this stage and I can no more recover whatever I have on the phone. Factory image flashing then ?
Yep, I would
And there we go, I did it, phone back to life. Thank you guys ! A LOT! Appreciated ! pretty much !
Allow me to recall the scenario : I was on Slimkat, decided to try Mahdi Rom ( CM Based ), Backup before flashing, flashed, wanted to revert back. And this can't mount /sdcard there. No idea what could be it...
What recovery you guys recommend me to use ? - Lesson I learned today? I should know how to use fastboot and ditch the Toolkit galore.
Well, seems that you did'nt do anything wrong. Maybe a problem with the rom or something else occur.
Next time, maybe, do a backup and, then, copy it to your computer
For the recovery, I use CWM 6.0.0.4
Hey everyone,
I've been tearing out my hair for the past 34 hours (with the exception of sleeping). I restarted my phone yesterday and it got stuck in the boot animation, for hours.
I have never unlocked my bootloader, or flashed any custom rom on this phone, so I was really shocked when this happened. So I took to these forums, because lurking here usually solves all my issues (thanks awesome people), and flashed the stock image as recommended-> bootloop -> factory reset in recovery mode -> bootloop-> repeated this all night and today with multiple flashing methods (fastboot using flash-all and flashing individually, no dice.
I was wondering if I was out of luck, seeing as though my phone just randomly did this to itself, without prior tampering, or if there was something I could try doing. I haven't tried any custom recoveries as I don't really know how that would help me if I am willing to flash back to stock and lose all my data.
I am able to boot into fastboot mode and go to recovery mode, so this indicates to me that my hardware is fine, unless I am wrong
Thanks, I would appreciate all the help I can get
Was fast boot one of those multiple flashing methods?
theesotericone said:
Was fast boot one of those multiple flashing methods?
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Yeah, both using Flash-all and flashing each individual, Ill update post
ChunksOfLemon said:
Yeah, both using Flash-all and flashing each individual, Ill update post
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And you didn't receive any errors at all while flashing them individually? If that's the case I'd fastboot format each partition first then flash it. If that doesn't work you're pretty much out of luck. Just so where on the same page it would go like this:
Code:
fastboot format system
fastboot flash system system.img
Then just repeat that for everything.
theesotericone said:
And you didn't receive any errors at all while flashing them individually? If that's the case I'd fastboot format each partition first then flash it. If that doesn't work you're pretty much out of luck. Just so where on the same page it would go like this:
Code:
fastboot format system
fastboot flash system system.img
Then just repeat that for everything.
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I'll try this now and let you know
theesotericone said:
And you didn't receive any errors at all while flashing them individually? If that's the case I'd fastboot format each partition first then flash it. If that doesn't work you're pretty much out of luck. Just so where on the same page it would go like this:
Code:
fastboot format system
fastboot flash system system.img
Then just repeat that for everything.
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Yeah, no luck there either
I guess I'll call LG in the morning
ChunksOfLemon said:
Yeah, no luck there either
I guess I'll call LG in the morning
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First reboot to recovery and wipe cache.
theesotericone said:
First reboot to recovery and wipe cache.
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Nothing is working, I'll check to see how much it'll be to repair
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Nothing is working, I'll check to see how much it'll be to repair
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Have you tried -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/guide-to-fix-persist-partition-t2821576 ?
beekay201 said:
Have you tried -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/guide-to-fix-persist-partition-t2821576 ?
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OMG YES THIS WORKS! Thank you, I read that thread in my initial search, but it didn't seem to apply. But I just tried it and my device booted in like five minutes.
Thanks for helping me guys, don't need to buy another phone
I own a 3T currently and am planning to get an 8T as it is getting good custom rom traction. One thing I am really confused about the is the new partitioning scheme. Can someone please link me an article where I can read more about it? Also what's with the specific twrp's and installer zips for each rom and how does one flash magisk, xposed and other things?
What I am used to doing on my 3t is, wipe data, system, cache and then flash rom zip + gapps + magisk. I would really appreciate it if anyone can explain the additional steps that would be required to do this on the 8T
It's a very different world with the 8T (I also come from a 3T).
The 8T has A/B partitions as well as virtual A/B partitions. It also supports streaming OTA and seamless OTA updates. It has fastboot and fastbootd.
There's lots of good information on all of this in:
Virtual A/B Overview | Android Open Source Project
source.android.com
A/B (Seamless) System Updates | Android Open Source Project
source.android.com
platform/system/update_engine - Git at Google
Moving Fastboot to Userspace | Android Open Source Project
source.android.com
And more on this at the same site.
And, if you get into serious trouble, the unbricking tool is really easy to use and works wonderfully.
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I own a 3T currently and am planning to get an 8T as it is getting good custom rom traction. One thing I am really confused about the is the new partitioning scheme. Can someone please link me an article where I can read more about it? Also what's with the specific twrp's and installer zips for each rom and how does one flash magisk, xposed and other things?
What I am used to doing on my 3t is, wipe data, system, cache and then flash rom zip + gapps + magisk. I wouls really appreciate it if anyone can explain the additional steps that would be required to do this on the same thing on an 8T.
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I'm going to try to give you a brief, yet precise enough guide to doing the basics on a device with partitions like the 8T.
Okay, so basically, the 8T custom ROMs, when flashed, are going to consist of the following partitions:
boot
dtbo
system
system_ext
product
recovery
vendor
odm
vbmeta
vbmeta_system
So when performing fastboot/adb commands with these newer devices, you're going to start off in the normal bootloader (i use the volume +/- and power at the same time command to enter this from a powered off state).
Now there's also a mode called fastbootd mode. It's often just called fastboot, especially when booting from bootloader (fastboot reboot fastboot now takes you to this fastbootd mode). This is where you're going to do the majority of flashing/modding from.
So to start off, enter bootloader, then perform this command in terminal to do a wipe of data:
fastboot -w
Then, flash recovery partition:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img (this is the recovery.img from the ROM zip you are attempting to flash)
Then, reboot to fastbootd:
fastboot reboot fastboot
Next, I like to make sure I'm on partition A for flashing. This is just something I've been told to do and it works so I stick with it. So do this by:
fastboot set_active a
Now you can start flashing the paritions:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash dtbo dtbo.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash system_ext system_ext.img
fastboot flash product product.img
fastboot flash vendor vendor.img
fastboot flash odm odm.img
fastboot flash vbmeta vbmeta.img
fastboot flash vbmeta_system vbmeta_system.img
Then, boot up the ROM:
fastboot reboot
So that's the basic rundown.
Now for a few things to keep in mind:
Always make sure you're on the latest version of OxygenOS before doing any of this. I like to start off by unlocking bootloader, then setting up phone. Then I do an update to both partitions to the latest version of OOS (must be on both partitions. Not just on one). So I just put the latest OOS zip on my phone via USB transfer from PC, do an upgrade with that file (Settings > System > Update > Top right menu button > Select Internal Storage or whatever it says like that, then select the file (make sure the OOS zip file is in the MAIN root directory of your phone. So basically, the folder that contains the Pictures, Downloads, Music, etc. folders.
So after you do this system update, it will prompt you to reboot phone. Do this. Then, go to settings and do the same thing again. Select the OOS zip and do an internal storage update, let it do its thing, it'll ask to reboot, go ahead and do so. Now this second update you do will either start from 0% and go to 100% like the first time, or it will go from 0% directly to 99%, then 100% after a few seconds. This is okay, it just means you already had the latest OOS on one of your partitions. So anyway, go ahead and do that reboot when it tells you. Now you are unlocked and on the latest firmware and ready to flash.
Oh, and btw, to unlock bootloader, do the normal steps through developer options, then reboot to bootloader and this is the command used:
fastboot flashing unlock
That will let you confirm to unlock bootloader, etc. like I'm sure you've done on the 3T.
So anyway, after unlocking and updating to latest OOS (Open Beta or Stable usually both work fine btw), you can reboot to bootloader, then do the steps I told you above for wiping, flashing recovery, flashing partitions, booting, etc.
Oh, and to get these partition images from the custom ROM zip you choose to flash, you need to first unzip the ROM zip file, then take the payload.bin file that will result of the unzip, and use a payload_dumper script. Those are linked all over or can be found on a google search or Github. It'll take your payload.bin and turn it into these .IMG files that I list in the flashing steps. Each partition will have a file named PARTITIONNAME.img. These are all you need to flash a custom ROM over OOS.
To flash an update to a rom, do all the same stuff but don't do the
fastboot -w
and you also don't need to do the
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
part because the recovery partition is already there from the ROM when you originally flashed.
I realize this is all a bunch of random notes and guides, and my brain kind of works in a weird way, but it's pretty much all there I think. If you need help clarifying any of this or just have any questions in general, PM me or respond back here and tag me. I'll help as much as I can or point you to someone who can help if I can't.
Hope this helps. Take care.
dpryor88 said:
I'm going to try to give you a brief, yet precise enough guide to doing the basics on a device with partitions like the 8T.
Okay, so basically, the 8T custom ROMs, when flashed, are going to consist of the following partitions:
boot
dtbo
system
system_ext
product
recovery
vendor
odm
vbmeta
vbmeta_system
So when performing fastboot/adb commands with these newer devices, you're going to start off in the normal bootloader (i use the volume +/- and power at the same time command to enter this from a powered off state).
Now there's also a mode called fastbootd mode. It's often just called fastboot, especially when booting from bootloader (fastboot reboot fastboot now takes you to this fastbootd mode). This is where you're going to do the majority of flashing/modding from.
So to start off, enter bootloader, then perform this command in terminal to do a wipe of data:
fastboot -w
Then, flash recovery partition:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img (this is the recovery.img from the ROM zip you are attempting to flash)
Then, reboot to fastbootd:
fastboot reboot fastboot
Next, I like to make sure I'm on partition A for flashing. This is just something I've been told to do and it works so I stick with it. So do this by:
fastboot set_active a
Now you can start flashing the paritions:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash dtbo dtbo.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash system_ext system_ext.img
fastboot flash product product.img
fastboot flash vendor vendor.img
fastboot flash odm odm.img
fastboot flash vbmeta vbmeta.img
fastboot flash vbmeta_system vbmeta_system.img
Then, boot up the ROM:
fastboot reboot
So that's the basic rundown.
Now for a few things to keep in mind:
Always make sure you're on the latest version of OxygenOS before doing any of this. I like to start off by unlocking bootloader, then setting up phone. Then I do an update to both partitions to the latest version of OOS (must be on both partitions. Not just on one). So I just put the latest OOS zip on my phone via USB transfer from PC, do an upgrade with that file (Settings > System > Update > Top right menu button > Select Internal Storage or whatever it says like that, then select the file (make sure the OOS zip file is in the MAIN root directory of your phone. So basically, the folder that contains the Pictures, Downloads, Music, etc. folders.
So after you do this system update, it will prompt you to reboot phone. Do this. Then, go to settings and do the same thing again. Select the OOS zip and do an internal storage update, let it do its thing, it'll ask to reboot, go ahead and do so. Now this second update you do will either start from 0% and go to 100% like the first time, or it will go from 0% directly to 99%, then 100% after a few seconds. This is okay, it just means you already had the latest OOS on one of your partitions. So anyway, go ahead and do that reboot when it tells you. Now you are unlocked and on the latest firmware and ready to flash.
Oh, and btw, to unlock bootloader, do the normal steps through developer options, then reboot to bootloader and this is the command used:
fastboot flashing unlock
That will let you confirm to unlock bootloader, etc. like I'm sure you've done on the 3T.
So anyway, after unlocking and updating to latest OOS (Open Beta or Stable usually both work fine btw), you can reboot to bootloader, then do the steps I told you above for wiping, flashing recovery, flashing partitions, booting, etc.
Oh, and to get these partition images from the custom ROM zip you choose to flash, you need to first unzip the ROM zip file, then take the payload.bin file that will result of the unzip, and use a payload_dumper script. Those are linked all over or can be found on a google search or Github. It'll take your payload.bin and turn it into these .IMG files that I list in the flashing steps. Each partition will have a file named PARTITIONNAME.img. These are all you need to flash a custom ROM over OOS.
To flash an update to a rom, do all the same stuff but don't do the
fastboot -w
and you also don't need to do the
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
part because the recovery partition is already there from the ROM when you originally flashed.
I realize this is all a bunch of random notes and guides, and my brain kind of works in a weird way, but it's pretty much all there I think. If you need help clarifying any of this or just have any questions in general, PM me or respond back here and tag me. I'll help as much as I can or point you to someone who can help if I can't.
Hope this helps. Take care.
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I cannot thank you enough for taking out so much time and explaining everything in detail. I really appreciate it and this will be very very helpful for me.
Unfortunately, I purchased the 8T from OnePlus' official website and they sent me a refurbished piece with a cracked back panel and scratched screen. I was stupid to opt for OnePlus' site just because there was a small discount, now to get a replacement I have to go through a painful process of contacting their incompetent support and an eternal wait until they decide to revert. I'm glad that I recorded the unboxing video, so at least they cannot blame this on me.
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I cannot thank you enough for taking out so much time and explaining everything in detail. I really appreciate it and this will be very very helpful for me.
Unfortunately, I purchased the 8T from OnePlus' official website and they sent me a refurbished piece with a cracked back panel and scratched screen. I was stupid to opt for OnePlus' site just because there was a small discount, now to get a replacement I have to go through a painful process of contacting their incompetent support and an eternal wait until they decide to revert. I'm glad that I recorded the unboxing video, so at least they cannot blame this on me.
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Ah man! I'm so sorry to hear that! Their support is horrible I must admit. Not as bad as Google Fi's support haha (that's another story), but it's bad yeah.
I got mine from the OP website also (North America model as I live in California) but I got it shortly after the phone was released. I can't believe they're selling refurbished, broken devices now. That's horrible. The company has been going a bit downhill with some aspects I've realized in the past few years.
Anyway, I really hope you get that sorted out (sooner than later hopefully). It's a nice device. Software support/updates are a little iffy with OP these days, but no one's perfect. But once you start flashing some custom goodness on the phone, it really shines. Nothing wrong with Oxygen in my opinion, but choice is nice
Let me know if/when you get the device if you need any help with anything.
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Ah man! I'm so sorry to hear that! Their support is horrible I must admit. Not as bad as Google Fi's support haha (that's another story), but it's bad yeah.
I got mine from the OP website also (North America model as I live in California) but I got it shortly after the phone was released. I can't believe they're selling refurbished, broken devices now. That's horrible. The company has been going a bit downhill with some aspects I've realized in the past few years.
Anyway, I really hope you get that sorted out (sooner than later hopefully). It's a nice device. Software support/updates are a little iffy with OP these days, but no one's perfect. But once you start flashing some custom goodness on the phone, it really shines. Nothing wrong with Oxygen in my opinion, but choice is nice
Let me know if/when you get the device if you need any help with anything.
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Thanks mate, I won't hesitate to ask if I need help once I get the new device
@dpryor88 Finally after a 21 day battle with the OnePlus support, today I received my replacement device.
It happens to have LPDDR5 ram. I checked this xda article where they mentioned that the unbrick tool fails on this variant.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8t-oneplus-9r-shipping-faster-ram/amp/
Which variant do you have? Also, did you try using the unbrick tool?
pratyush28 said:
@dpryor88 Finally after a 21 day battle with the OnePlus support, today I received my replacement device.
It happens to have LPDDR5 ram. I checked this xda article where they mentioned that the unbrick tool fails on this variant.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8t-oneplus-9r-shipping-faster-ram/amp/
Which variant do you have? Also, did you try using the unbrick tool?
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I have the other model. Unbrick tool works fine on mine.
pratyush28 said:
@dpryor88 Finally after a 21 day battle with the OnePlus support, today I received my replacement device.
It happens to have LPDDR5 ram. I checked this xda article where they mentioned that the unbrick tool fails on this variant.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8t-oneplus-9r-shipping-faster-ram/amp/
Which variant do you have? Also, did you try using the unbrick tool?
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My 8T has ddr_type of 1 and I've had no problems using the unbrick tool (and I've used it a lot as I've been testing/learning lots of stuff with TWRP) on my KB2000.
BillGoss said:
My 8T has ddr_type of 1 and I've had no problems using the unbrick tool (and I've used it a lot as I've been testing/learning lots of stuff with TWRP) on my KB2000.
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That's some good news, mine is KB2001 I wonder if that will make a difference. Also, have you tried flashing custom roms? If yes, was there any firmware incompatibility?
pratyush28 said:
That's some good news, mine is KB2001 I wonder if that will make a difference. Also, have you tried flashing custom roms? If yes, was there any firmware incompatibility?
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Yes, I installed a couple of custom ROMs and they were fine.
The only place I know that matters is the xbl and xbl_config partitions. The full OOS ROMs have an extra -lp5 set of files that get flashed on lp5 phones instead of the "normal" xbl files.
But since this only applies to firmware and the xbl partitions are never touched by custom ROMs, there cannot, therefore, be incompatibilities due to lp4 vs lp5.