Hi folks,
What is a good diagnostic software package I can run to see if I have a memory or other hardware problem?
My Tab 2 10.1 p5113 has been glitchy for more than six months. I initially blamed it on the horrible software update late last year, but even after taking the subsequent update (MK3) this thing still has force closes all over the place and reboots often. My other identical 5113 has been rock steady since the MK3 update.
I've wiped the tab, installed several different custom ROMs. OMNIROM was much less glitchy, but it still would die after a while and reboot. I would also see some graphic artifacts on the screen, sort of in a line from left side about mid-way down the screen. This persisted over a few different roms I've tried, coming and going.
Eventually I wiped everything and did an Odin-to-stock MK3. The tab is still unstable, even before installing any non stock apps. IT rebooted while doing its initial setup (right after entering Google account), then again during the first app update once playstore realized it was a year out of date for the apps.
If it were a PC, I would be running memtest and other utilities to troubleshoot memory and "hard drive" communications.
What's the best thing to try here? I'm thinking to sell it on the Swappa Boneyard, but interested to do full diagnostics first...
Marc
If you were not pleased with your PC, you could already for a few decades put a bootable OS installation media to your PC, press a key in boot (F12), etc.. then choose to boot from this media, press the enter key couple of times, choose a setting here or there and tadaaa..., you have a new fresh PC without all the bull****, ready to run as brand new and with pretty much standardized user experience .
After 10 years of Android development we are still not there and the platform is still fragmented as hell with serious fundamental problems. User experience and battery life of hundreds of device models are ruined by unneccessary bloatware
What makes Android so different that you could not boot from OTG USB stick by a standardized button combination (e.g. power button and volume down), or by just having the choice in the menu that usually comes from pwr-button up or pwr-button down...? And after that just install a new OS like windows 7 for PC without the complex process of first rooting a kernel, then installing CWM, then doing zillion things in CWM, and then installing customROM, and keeping your fingers that it works and you dont need to do extra factory reset, dalvik cache wipe, etc..etc....
Why it needs to be so much more complicated than with PC.....?
And why cant you disable manufacturer bloatware in android (like you can win winphone)...? If Google really wanted unfragmented platform could it not just put requirements for the manufacturers that if they want the next version of Android or Google Apps, then android needs to be easily reinstallable to the device from USB-stick, and the used needs to have the option to be able to remove all bloatware and return the original vanilla android experience to the device...? Or could it not require that there is a standardized way to boot from external media connected by USB OTG cable.
Other serious problems that still exist in 2015. Audio latency is still a joke that prevents a real interactive gaming or music composing experience.
Touch latency is also still behind IOS and Windows phone.
I have not tried to use a mouse in android but 2 years ago when I did, it was totally unusable experience with horrible latency. Is it still nowadays like this?
How about a bluetooth keyboard? Can you use it as smoothly as a bluetooth keyboard in ios...?
golemus said:
If you were not pleased with your PC, you could already for a few decades put a bootable OS installation media to your PC, press a key in boot (F12), etc.. then choose to boot from this media, press the enter key couple of times, choose a setting here or there and tadaaa..., you have a new fresh PC without all the bull****, ready to run as brand new and with pretty much standardized user experience .
After 10 years of Android development we are still not there and the platform is still fragmented as hell with serious fundamental problems. User experience and battery life of hundreds of device models are ruined by unneccessary bloatware
What makes Android so different that you could not boot from OTG USB stick by a standardized button combination (e.g. power button and volume down), or by just having the choice in the menu that usually comes from pwr-button up or pwr-button down...? And after that just install a new OS like windows 7 for PC without the complex process of first rooting a kernel, then installing CWM, then doing zillion things in CWM, and then installing customROM, and keeping your fingers that it works and you dont need to do extra factory reset, dalvik cache wipe, etc..etc....
Why it needs to be so much more complicated than with PC.....?
And why cant you disable manufacturer bloatware in android (like you can win winphone)...? If Google really wanted unfragmented platform could it not just put requirements for the manufacturers that if they want the next version of Android or Google Apps, then android needs to be easily reinstallable to the device from USB-stick, and the used needs to have the option to be able to remove all bloatware and return the original vanilla android experience to the device...? Or could it not require that there is a standardized way to boot from external media connected by USB OTG cable.
Other serious problems that still exist in 2015. Audio latency is still a joke that prevents a real interactive gaming or music composing experience.
Touch latency is also still behind IOS and Windows phone.
I have not tried to use a mouse in android but 2 years ago when I did, it was totally unusable experience with horrible latency. Is it still nowadays like this?
How about a bluetooth keyboard? Can you use it as smoothly as a bluetooth keyboard in ios...?
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Well see that's the thing, you can. All you have to do is build an aosp based rom and flash it. You have to remember that each device is very different and unlike a pc is programmes to work with a set os made to work with it.
And as far as bloat you are mistaken even WI does is now excluding bloat that can't be removed and even 32 bit computers have locked bootloaders.
Hi!
I desperately address you today to ask you for help with my Huawei G615 (U9508; 1GB Version so it’s not Honor2/U9508B, but shouldn’t make a difference).
Problems:
- Phone won’t turn on (seems to be a bootloop).
- Phone won’t charge.
- Can’t find many of the needed files for flashing. So I need working mirrors or would appreciate uploads.
History:
Early 2013: Bought, standard Android 4.0.4 version, rooted by myself.
April 2015: Updated/Flashed to official (?) 4.2.2 with EmotionUI 1.6, rooted afterwards. Since then (not sure, maybe it’s unrelated to the update), I had multiple, annoying error messages when Wi-Fi got (re-)connected, but ignored it for months for not finding a solution.
Indeterminate timespan: State of battery charged wasn’t shown correctly, phone shut off too early. Used app “Battery Recalibrator” to fix this, needed some attempts but finally worked.
16th Feb. 2017 (Day X): Accidentally dropped phone (1-meter drop height, good TPU/silicon phone case cushioned it; no visible damage to phone or battery, no software-crash). Phone continued to work normally. Charged it to 100% before sleeping.
X+1: Phone was 99% after waking up, then suddenly 12%, shut down on 10%. Showed 0% afterwards, plugging it in to charge didn’t help. Despite charging it says 0%, powering on (only possible when charger plugged in) leads to bootloop (Huawei Logo, Android Logo, Huawei Logo (because it restarts)). Decided to put the phone on the cool window board over night without charging it.
X+2: Tried again to turn it on, after many attempts it magically turned on. Worked for the whole day, I still tried to flash the phone to get rid of my other Wi-Fi error log problem (and to prevent other possible problems by doing a fresh new start), didn’t seem to work. Charged it to 100%.
X+3 (today): Phone was already powered off when I woke up. Still can’t turn it on.
What I also tried continually:
- Tried charging with different power adapters or directly from USB. Still 0%.
- Tried wiping cache, wiping/factory reset.
- Flashing it to official 4.0.4. and 4.2.2., seemed not to work because it was over after some seconds, but the SDROOT/dload folder is ~1GB (although it said it worked, see spoiler).
Spoiler
When in recovery and choosing “apply update from external storage”, and then “dload” it says it failed to mount /sdcard (E:; “no such file or directory”).
Then error to open /sdcard/dload (“no such file or directory”)
Then
“Install from SD card complete.
cust copying files.
copy cust files succeeded.”
But as I said, that's possibly not true that 1GB gets copied in some seconds.
Status now (as I remember from Day X+2 when it worked):
- 4.2.2
- EmUI 1.6
- Android system recovery <3e>
- USB-debugging should be turned on (not sure) and phone should be rooted (Superuser was still installed after wiping, but it said it needed an update, so it might not fully work).
- Kernel and other software stuff: Can’t remember, can’t turn on the phone. And don’t know what they all mean tbh, I’m glad I know a little about the differences of Android official and custom ROMs and what a recovery is (and that I may need the Chinese recovery for flashing I cannot find online).
Further Details:
I personally don’t think the fall caused my problems because it continued to work for the whole day and the drop was cushioned. What I suspected: It could be an extreme case of the battery charge status problem. The phone thinks the battery is still 0% although it’s not. So it shuts itself off. Or the bootloop is caused by faulty software/ROM, although I didn’t change anything before the problems appeared.
I’ve read through several manuals and now get some sense of the topic, but I still don’t know everything relevant. Also, most of the links to important files are dead.
In addition, a problem I have is that despite reading through lots of threads, they require me to have a working phone, but mine is stuck in a bootloop.
What I want:
A clear, new phone software. Doesn’t matter which Android version or if official or custom ROM. Just want a working phone without the Wi-Fi error, so a fresh new start, a clean flash.
So: How do I do it, and importantly, where can I find the needed files?
(Even though I might buy a new phone next month, I want this one to be fixed so I can gift or sell the phone.)
Software I already have:
HiSuite, HuaWei_USB_Driver.exe, Android SDK, dload-B115 (folder, should be official Android 4.0.4), dload-B703 (folder, should be official Android 4.2.2), cm-10.1-20131006-EternityProject-hwu9508.zip (CyanogenMod 10.1 from Eternity Project); already rescued my data, so I’m ready to wipe.
Software that might be missing:
Chinese recovery, fastboot mod (what for?), CWM (what’s this, what for?), TWRP (what for?).
Many thanks in advance!
EDIT:
As recovery mode (Power + VolumeUp) works and the phone can be on for hours when in this mode (as long as it's plugged in), I assume that it's not the battery but a soft/firmware problem.
Zockerfreak112 said:
Hi!
I desperately address you today to ask you for help with my Huawei G615 (U9508; 1GB Version so it’s not Honor2/U9508B, but shouldn’t make a difference).
Problems:
- Phone won’t turn on (seems to be a bootloop).
- Phone won’t charge.
- Can’t find many of the needed files for flashing. So I need working mirrors or would appreciate uploads.
History:
Early 2013: Bought, standard Android 4.0.4 version, rooted by myself.
April 2015: Updated/Flashed to official (?) 4.2.2 with EmotionUI 1.6, rooted afterwards. Since then (not sure, maybe it’s unrelated to the update), I had multiple, annoying error messages when Wi-Fi got (re-)connected, but ignored it for months for not finding a solution.
Indeterminate timespan: State of battery charged wasn’t shown correctly, phone shut off too early. Used app “Battery Recalibrator” to fix this, needed some attempts but finally worked.
16th Feb. 2017 (Day X): Accidentally dropped phone (1-meter drop height, good TPU/silicon phone case cushioned it; no visible damage to phone or battery, no software-crash). Phone continued to work normally. Charged it to 100% before sleeping.
X+1: Phone was 99% after waking up, then suddenly 12%, shut down on 10%. Showed 0% afterwards, plugging it in to charge didn’t help. Despite charging it says 0%, powering on (only possible when charger plugged in) leads to bootloop (Huawei Logo, Android Logo, Huawei Logo (because it restarts)). Decided to put the phone on the cool window board over night without charging it.
X+2: Tried again to turn it on, after many attempts it magically turned on. Worked for the whole day, I still tried to flash the phone to get rid of my other Wi-Fi error log problem (and to prevent other possible problems by doing a fresh new start), didn’t seem to work. Charged it to 100%.
X+3 (today): Phone was already powered off when I woke up. Still can’t turn it on.
What I also tried continually:
- Tried charging with different power adapters or directly from USB. Still 0%.
- Tried wiping cache, wiping/factory reset.
- Flashing it to official 4.0.4. and 4.2.2., seemed not to work because it was over after some seconds, but the SDROOT/dload folder is ~1GB (although it said it worked, see spoiler).
Spoiler
When in recovery and choosing “apply update from external storage”, and then “dload” it says it failed to mount /sdcard (E:; “no such file or directory”).
Then error to open /sdcard/dload (“no such file or directory”)
Then
“Install from SD card complete.
cust copying files.
copy cust files succeeded.”
But as I said, that's possibly not true that 1GB gets copied in some seconds.
Status now (as I remember from Day X+2 when it worked):
- 4.2.2
- EmUI 1.6
- Android system recovery <3e>
- USB-debugging should be turned on (not sure) and phone should be rooted (Superuser was still installed after wiping, but it said it needed an update, so it might not fully work).
- Kernel and other software stuff: Can’t remember, can’t turn on the phone. And don’t know what they all mean tbh, I’m glad I know a little about the differences of Android official and custom ROMs and what a recovery is (and that I may need the Chinese recovery for flashing I cannot find online).
Further Details:
I personally don’t think the fall caused my problems because it continued to work for the whole day and the drop was cushioned. What I suspected: It could be an extreme case of the battery charge status problem. The phone thinks the battery is still 0% although it’s not. So it shuts itself off. Or the bootloop is caused by faulty software/ROM, although I didn’t change anything before the problems appeared.
I’ve read through several manuals and now get some sense of the topic, but I still don’t know everything relevant. Also, most of the links to important files are dead.
In addition, a problem I have is that despite reading through lots of threads, they require me to have a working phone, but mine is stuck in a bootloop.
What I want:
A clear, new phone software. Doesn’t matter which Android version or if official or custom ROM. Just want a working phone without the Wi-Fi error, so a fresh new start, a clean flash.
So: How do I do it, and importantly, where can I find the needed files?
(Even though I might buy a new phone next month, I want this one to be fixed so I can gift or sell the phone.)
Software I already have:
HiSuite, HuaWei_USB_Driver.exe, Android SDK, dload-B115 (folder, should be official Android 4.0.4), dload-B703 (folder, should be official Android 4.2.2), cm-10.1-20131006-EternityProject-hwu9508.zip (CyanogenMod 10.1 from Eternity Project); already rescued my data, so I’m ready to wipe.
Software that might be missing:
Chinese recovery, fastboot mod (what for?), CWM (what’s this, what for?), TWRP (what for?).
Many thanks in advance!
EDIT:
As recovery mode (Power + VolumeUp) works and the phone can be on for hours when in this mode (as long as it's plugged in), I assume that it's not the battery but a soft/firmware problem.
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Greetings and welcome to assist. Have you tried this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039998
it should have all the files you need
Good Luck
Sawdoctor
So few years ago I bought a Windows tablet to serve as a second Windows portable device. It served its purpose and now I am upgrading the WT8-A to an Android. So far, I am close. But there seems to be one last major hurdle preventing this from being a success and I would love to be pointed in the right direction for some help.
What I have achieved so far: I installed android fully and it is/was fully functional. However a few major issues have sprung up.
1) I can not reboot the tablet back into Android. The only way possible is to run it "live" (but then I can't save anything) or re-install it. How do I get around the boot issue and where do I start?
2) At first, the entire platform seemed to work perfectly except for a few minor glitches. I couldn't get Bluetooth to work (no biggie, I never use Bluetooth on this tablet anyway) and the camera wouldn't work (also not a biggie, the camera stopped working in a Windows 10 upgrade so no loss there).
3) I left the tablet on and after a few hours the touch screen stopped responding. I could still access everything if I used mouse and keyboard through USB. So I did. Then Android loaded the "Android loading screen" and things went back to normal for a short while. The same thing has continued to happen over and over. The touch screen stops responding, eventually and somehow (still unsure how) Android seems to reload and it all works again.
4) WiFi has stopped working. WiFi worked perfectly in the first day and then by the second day no WiFi networks are being found.
So, I am left with a semi working, non-WiFi capable, non-rebootable ex-Windows now Android tablet and I admit I am stuck at this point.
What is the very first thing I can do at this point to take it one step further and closer to being a success?
Since I have had this tablet remote it has behaved completely erratically. I thought maybe a software update would fix the issue but it is still the same POS as day one. Constant reboots. Always goes through an optimizing apps process. (for a different number of apps each time). It doesn't always complete the optimizing process before it reboots so now it usually just goes into a weird boot loop 95% of the time. I have done a factory reset on the device many times and it always goes back to the same behavior. Everything points to a corrupt install of whatever pos vizio android rom came installed. I was hoping someone out there had a good install and could create a rom image for me to flash on this pos before I just break the damn thing.
And what I have been using in the meantime is my phone with the vizio smartcast app.