Diff between Samsung hide & ADB uninstall - General Questions and Answers

Hi,
After a very basic understanding of the diff between performing an ADB uninstall following this post and that of more simply going through the process to just 'hide' the app within the Samsung's app settings like here?
Both sound to basically do the same thing, no? Both sound to really just safely hide and not have the apps consume resources. And, can easily be brought back from the dead to use if again ever desired.
Goal I'm after are performance/battery life gains, not having these bloatware apps.
thanks for your insight.

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How To Guide [ADB DEBLOAT] [OOS 12, 11 & Custom ROMs] [2022.10.06 - v2.2] Extreme debloat your OnePlus 9

EXTREME DEBLOAT
Code:
I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
thermonuclear war, asphyxiation due to lack of Oxygen,
ColorOS and OxygenOS migration,
existential crisis,
or you getting fired because the alarm app failed.
YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
Hi!
First of all, this debloat.txt is heavily based on the work of SirTAVARES, but since his thread is no longer available i thought i might improve it and share.
This debloat file will wipe out almost everything from your phone. I use this debloat for daily usage and i don't see any problems.
Android 11
Support for Android 11 is discontinued.​Get the v1.4 list here for Android 11 if the attachment below does not work.​
v1.4 - Tested with rooted OnePlus 9 running OxygenOS 11.2.9.9 LE25BA, Paranoid Android Ruby Alpha 2 and crDroid 20210716 build.
​Known issues:
- If you have a WiFi network saved, using this debloat will make your phone forget the network.
Fix: If you connect to the network after using these, it won't forget it again.
- Phone lags for 10 seconds and a message with "Settings isn't responding" shows up whenever you open/go back to Bluetooth & Device Connection setting. However if you tap on "Wait" it'll go away, the setting will open and no problem. AFAIK it does not affect the actual functionalities of the settings.
*Changelog*
v1.0 - Release
v1.1 - Added oemtcma, Factory Mode, and Factory Mode Specialtest to the list.
v1.2 - [Comptible with up to OOS 11.2.7.7] Added Cloud Services, Charging Pilar, OnePlus Roaming, Membership, Secure Payment (experimental), Work-Life Balance to the list.
v1.21 - [Comptible with Paranoid Android Ruby Alpha 1] Added Abstruct from Paranoid Android.
v1.3 - [Comptible with Paranoid Android Ruby Alpha 2] Added Paranoid FaceSense to the list (experimental)
v1.4 - [Comptible with latest crDroid & OOS up to 11.2.9.9] Added LogCat, Jelly, Calendar, AudioFX, crDroid Music, Updater, Omni stuff, and some other apps to the list.
[DISCONTINUED]
Android 12​​v2.1 - Tested with rooted OnePlus 9 running OxygenOS 12.C60, LineageOS 19.1 (2022.06.12 build), and AOSPA Sapphire Beta (2022.06.11 build), and Pixel Extended 5.0 (2022.10.04 build)​​Get the list here if the attachment below does not work.​
Yes, it's extreme. I use this for my liking, check the list before uninstalling!
Use at your own risk!
Features:
- Over 100 apps removed. Contains debloat for Google, OnePlus, and other apps
- Experimental Debloat:
GPS & Location
Always-on Display
- Almost everything can be downloaded from the Play Store if you accidentally removed something you didn't want to
(I recommend using the latest platform-tools for ADB)
Usage:
- Turn on USB Debugging
- In cmd type adb devices, and allow adb authorization on device
- Type adb shell
- (Optional) Type su
- Copy & paste the lines starting with "pm uninstall" to the cmd and press Enter. (You can select all or one-by-one too)
- Reboot & Enjoy
For reinstalling accidentally removed apps, try using
adb shell cmd package install-existing <package_name>
To do list:
Find other apps to remove
Known issues:
- Same as Android 11, see above
*Changelog*
v2.0 - Update to Android / OOS 12
v2.1 - [Comptible with latest LineageOS, AOSPA & OOS up to 12.C60] Added apps for OOS, LOS and AOSPA debloat.
v2.11 - Removed DocumentsUI from the list. (Some app depends on it)
v2.2 - [Comptible with Pixel Extended Android 13] Added Security stuff from Google to the list (i find it annoying). Removed Styles & wallpaper as some ROM customization depends on it.
*This could work with other devices with OOS / PA / crDroid running. Try and let me know*
First bit of development for our beloved op9. Fantastic
why llist all those app in your other stuff section? samsung, omnirom, mii, and various other OEM apps not on any OP phone. did you forget to clean up from a list? that paired with using pm uninstall instead of disable doesn't scream "run my script with confidence"
you say "Almost everything can be downloaded from the Play Store " but , not only is thats not true. many are OEM, you extreme debloating almost everything google but keep play store and services?, GPS, AR core,, location services and even webviewer. uninstalling the webviewer will break a a few settings that rely on it, as well as any application that decides to call on it for web content. webviewer is something that should be replaced, not removed.
just root and use magisk moduals made just for desires like that. google replicates uninstalled apps to the secondary slot for reboots in A11, thats why terminal de-bloater tricks it by removing the program but keeping files in the place google checks before deciding to repair itself.
PS check out ADB AppControl with built in de bloating. even offers to backup the programs for you prior (not the data, just apk but its better than nothing)
lastly, i tried to address your flair usage of how-to guide and authoritive writing but re-reading what i said just made me sound like a jerk. i just see someone googling this in the future and getting screwed, by them. Dont be afraid to ask questions when you are unsure about something and workshop initial builds with other members before throwing it out there as a guide.
applyscience said:
why llist all those app in your other stuff section? samsung, omnirom, mii, and various other OEM apps not on any OP phone. did you forget to clean up from a list? that paired with using pm uninstall instead of disable doesn't scream "run my script with confidence"
you say "Almost everything can be downloaded from the Play Store " but , not only is thats not true. many are OEM, you extreme debloating almost everything google but keep play store and services?, GPS, AR core,, location services and even webviewer. uninstalling the webviewer will break a a few settings that rely on it, as well as any application that decides to call on it for web content. webviewer is something that should be replaced, not removed.
just root and use magisk moduals made just for desires like that. google replicates uninstalled apps to the secondary slot for reboots in A11, thats why terminal de-bloater tricks it by removing the program but keeping files in the place google checks before deciding to repair itself.
PS check out ADB AppControl with built in de bloating. even offers to backup the programs for you prior (not the data, just apk but its better than nothing)
lastly, i tried to address your flair usage of how-to guide and authoritive writing but re-reading what i said just made me sound like a jerk. i just see someone googling this in the future and getting screwed, by them. Dont be afraid to ask questions when you are unsure about something and workshop initial builds with other members before throwing it out there as a guide.
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1. You don't need to use it, all i can say is that because it works for me, i thought i'd share it.
2. "Almost" means most of them, of course there are some that cannot be downloaded.
3. I clearly state in the file that removing stuff can be risky, i didn't say that it can be used with confidence
Mh, always, when I use it, the abdroid calendar storage is no longer available...any ideas? And my calendar app stopps working...
AxelM said:
Mh, always, when I use it, the abdroid calendar storage is no longer available...any ideas? And my calendar app stopps working...
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The phone works normally without it, and because i don't use it this list will remove those apps.
You can try using adb shell cmd package install-existing <package_name> to reinstall them.
AxelM said:
Mh, always, when I use it, the abdroid calendar storage is no longer available...any ideas? And my calendar app stopps working...
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this is the situation i was trying to show concern about arising. part of me sympathizes with users who just want better performance and what not and I still do feel OP should have worded this less vague and authoritative because I feel most replies will be from users who assume this is a fleshed out guide and not something slapped together hastily and contains some mis-truths, applicable situations and errors.
That all being said, OP did title it extreme debloat, which is a pretty clear and easy to comprehend so anyone just running this without a considerable understanding of what it does or how it does it is just shooting themselves on the foot.
Don't run extreme de-bloats blindly and don't assume what one user is fine with removing is what you'll be ok with. Also, dont run pm uninstall on anything unless you are 100% sure you know exactly what it is, you will never need it again and if so, know how to install it again. pm disable exists for a reason and more should be aware of it.
If you find yourself habitually dealing with situaitons of something you need or not working, you should probably reinstall the OS. this is a extreme debloat and removes many things that arent easy to just reinstall on their own. (cant state this enough, OP did title it extreme debloat)
If people still want to run this and arent 100% sure they want to commit to the same level of debloat as OP, do yourselves a favor and copy the commands into a word processor and find and replace pm uninstall with pm disable-user --user 0.
OP says "
For reinstall accidentally removed apps, use
adb shell cmd package install-existing <package_name>"
but did you make a copy of the apk before running the script? do you know where its located to point the command to? many of the apks this removes arent even accessible without root folder access. some also cant just be downloaded so if you need something back, you will more than likely be reinstalling the OS.
OP, unless you enjoy replying to people asking how to get "X" back or wondering why "Y" is gone, maybe re-word some things and clarify some of the comments you made. Im not out here trying to belittle you or make you feel any type of way. i guarantee theres millions of things you know and do better than i and thats amazing, thats what makes people coming together and working on outcomes so awesome. or if you are someone who sees anyone offering suggestions/corrections as a personal attack and just want to run a thread with you constantly on the defensive, thats fine too. I really am just trying to prevent people breaking their phones (regaurdless if they deserve it or not becuse, in the end, its titled extreme debloat, come on people lol)
@applyscience: I totally understand your concerns. I checked all the names of the the unistalled files beforehand, but misinterpreted this one. It costs me some time, but fortunatly I work with titanium and so I was able within 3h to get everything to normal.
@_MartyMan_ : I just change the code to my goals and now everything works fine.
Did you know the code, where the files are just frozen, because than you can try it out first and than delete them...
just use
[TOOL] ADB AppControl 1.8.0 🚀 Ultimate App Manager & Debloat Tool + Tweaks
ADB AppControl 🚀 Root is not required. Works with any Android device. Can do almost everything you dreamed about with applications. ADB AppControl - the desktop program, that will allow you to easily manage applications on your android device...
forum.xda-developers.com
Thanks for the list, OP. Always nice to have a breakdown of the debloat apps.
Just as a suggestion to those who do not want to uninstall and feel more comfortable just disabling the apps, you can replace the first part of the commands in the ADB script from:
Code:
pm uninstall --user 0
to:
Code:
pm disable-user
Doing this will also save the state of the app even after doing an OS update.
@_MartyMan
THANK YOU for this guide. I'm rocking the OP 9 5g Pro. My first Oneplus device I decided upon because Facebook does NOT ship with it. And the camera.
As a root enthusiast (Privacy concerns), removing the absolute trash apps embedded in carrier-sponsored Android in the U.S. MUST be done before my device gets it's data turned on.
And your delightful list (All Uninstall) is just what I needed. None of the apps I deleted are ever going to be needed in my life.
Slightly more privacy, and my battery idled on 100% for 5 hours.
I'm off to F-Droid for my usual lineup.
Thank You Again!!!
Updated for OOS 12
Does this actually remove the package/application from the phone, i.e. I get the storage space back that the app was taking up? Or does it only disable the app from 'user 0' and the storage space is unnaffected? I want to permanently remove some packages and so far everything I have seen regarding ADB is that it doesnt remove the pacakge/app, it merely disables it from the primary user.
I am considering rooting and using TWRP or Magisk to permanently remove the packages, but if ADB actually removes them, and I get my storage space back, then I will stick to ADB.
Also, why not remove com.oneplus.brickmode? Its OnePlus's Zen Mode as far as I can tell and is completely worthless. If I am wrong please correct me so I can re-enable this package.
RonnieDoitch said:
Does this actually remove the package/application from the phone, i.e. I get the storage space back that the app was taking up? Or does it only disable the app from 'user 0' and the storage space is unnaffected? I want to permanently remove some packages and so far everything I have seen regarding ADB is that it doesnt remove the pacakge/app, it merely disables it from the primary user.
I am considering rooting and using TWRP or Magisk to permanently remove the packages, but if ADB actually removes them, and I get my storage space back, then I will stick to ADB.
Also, why not remove com.oneplus.brickmode? Its OnePlus's Zen Mode as far as I can tell and is completely worthless. If I am wrong please correct me so I can re-enable this package.
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I'm unsure. Your correct looked it up it's Zen mode your probably fine. I uninstalled Zen mode through titanium it shows this now.
RonnieDoitch said:
Does this actually remove the package/application from the phone, i.e. I get the storage space back that the app was taking up? Or does it only disable the app from 'user 0' and the storage space is unnaffected? I want to permanently remove some packages and so far everything I have seen regarding ADB is that it doesnt remove the pacakge/app, it merely disables it from the primary user.
I am considering rooting and using TWRP or Magisk to permanently remove the packages, but if ADB actually removes them, and I get my storage space back, then I will stick to ADB.
Also, why not remove com.oneplus.brickmode? Its OnePlus's Zen Mode as far as I can tell and is completely worthless. If I am wrong please correct me so I can re-enable this package.
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It's still there, it's only removed for the current user. All i know is that is does not show up in Greenify so i think it's not running in the background.
What would be the command to delete red cable pro?
Updated with new apps for OOS, AOSP, and LOS. Enjoy
Can this be used for Oos 12 c62?
paz999 said:
Can this be used for Oos 12 c62?
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Very likely - not tested though. Not much changed since C60

Question De-Samsungize?

Hi everyone,
My previous phone was Stock Android, and I rooted the one before that and used Lineage. I recently bought the A52, and decided to stay with the stock ROM for the warranty period, just in case (one year).
There's a lot of Samsung stuff and services running on the A52. I'm no strange to adb, and I'm aware some application can be removed using adb, but most of the stuff I found online was just "how to remove things with adb". I'm looking for a "this and that - can be safely remove without breaking the ROM". Was a list of sort for samsungs devices exists somewhere? or I basically need to check all the installed apps and google what the do each and if they are safe to remove?
Thanks!
Try this
[2022-07-03] [v0.5.1] Universal Android Debloater
Universal Android Debloater This is a complete rewrite in Rust of the UAD bash script. DISCLAIMER : Use this software at your own risk. I am not responsible for anything that could happen to your phone. Summary I try to maintain a...
forum.xda-developers.com
Thank you! Sounds a bit overkill running an Sh script to delete bunch of stuff, but this:
lists/Samsung.sh · master · W1nst0n / Universal Android Debloater · GitLab
Bash script using ADB to debloat rooted and non-rooted android devices. Improve your privacy, the security and battery life of your device.
gitlab.com
Is exactly what I was looking for. I can easily just check the file now, and install the stuff the doesn't sound important to me. Thanks!
Okiba said:
Thank you! Sounds a bit overkill running an Sh script to delete bunch of stuff, but this:
lists/Samsung.sh · master · W1nst0n / Universal Android Debloater · GitLab
Bash script using ADB to debloat rooted and non-rooted android devices. Improve your privacy, the security and battery life of your device.
gitlab.com
Is exactly what I was looking for. I can easily just check the file now, and install the stuff the doesn't sound important to me. Thanks!
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Even I want to debloat my A52(4G). Could you please list the steps to run this script by a layman?
You need to review each apk you are going to disable as some are useful and some have dependencies that you will learn of latter
Each user and device have different needs; one size doesn't fit all!
You should take the time to develop your own app management strategy like the creators of these lists have.
Using a package disabler works a lot better because some you want to be able to easily toggle on/off.
It's also useful for troubleshooting... including the issues you create by inadvertently blocking an apk you need
Could you please list the steps to run this script by a layman?
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I probably not going to run the script as I mentioned, I'm going to manually remove the packages I want and use this script as reference. BUT, I had a quick-look, and it seems seems to be an easy way doing it. The script is written in "Bash". Windows doesn't support Bash by default, so you have to install a third party utility to be able to run it. So you probably need to play around with it. What I did found was that:
[TOOL] ADB AppControl 1.8.0 🚀 Ultimate App Manager & Debloat Tool + Tweaks
ADB AppControl 🚀 Root is not required. Works with any Android device. Can do almost everything you dreamed about with applications. ADB AppControl - the desktop program, that will allow you to easily manage applications on your android device...
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It might be more friendly, and can be combined.
Using a package disabler works a lot better because some you want to be able to easily toggle on/off.
It's also useful for troubleshooting... including the issues you create by inadvertently blocking an apk you need
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You right, that's probably a more saner solution. Try to disable the applications first. If I recall correctly, you can't disable a lot of the Build-in stuff. I wonder if that's a UI thingi that block you from doing it - as you can uninstall the APK.
Okiba said:
Thank you! Sounds a bit overkill running an Sh script to delete bunch of stuff, but this:
lists/Samsung.sh · master · W1nst0n / Universal Android Debloater · GitLab
Bash script using ADB to debloat rooted and non-rooted android devices. Improve your privacy, the security and battery life of your device.
gitlab.com
Is exactly what I was looking for. I can easily just check the file now, and install the stuff the doesn't sound important to me. Thanks!
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No problem!
Okiba said:
Hi everyone,
My previous phone was Stock Android, and I rooted the one before that and used Lineage. I recently bought the A52, and decided to stay with the stock ROM for the warranty period, just in case (one year).
There's a lot of Samsung stuff and services running on the A52. I'm no strange to adb, and I'm aware some application can be removed using adb, but most of the stuff I found online was just "how to remove things with adb". I'm looking for a "this and that - can be safely remove without breaking the ROM". Was a list of sort for samsungs devices exists somewhere? or I basically need to check all the installed apps and google what the do each and if they are safe to remove?
Thanks!
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Using ADB I've removed ~80% of the Samsung apps on my S10e, leaving mostly the camera, calculator, gallery and backends. I also removed all google services except for the GSF, for notifications.
I use apps from F-Droid and Aurora store for browsing, chat, email, productivity etc.
My battery life is at least 50% better due to the lack of background processes and apps I'd never use anyways. If you have the ability to flash a ROM (my snapdragon doesn't) I highly recommend installing a de-googled ROM and setting up MicroG.
But for your current situation, ADB is a no-brainer.
Can you remove the Google Store service? I was sure it breaks the ROM?

Question Remove Blotware

How can I get rid of the preinstalled apps I do not want (Like Facebook)
Thank you ....Tom
Simply rooting your device would do. Then there are enough programs to assist
odatkid said:
How can I get rid of the preinstalled apps I do not want (Like Facebook)
Thank you ....Tom
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1. Setup adb
2. Insert "adb devices" to verify that the device is connected properly.
2. Uninstall app using this list ( You can copy-paste these commands and run in command prompt individually. ): https://raw.githubusercontent.com/khlam/debloat-samsung-android/master/commands.txt
Overall guide is here : https://www.naldotech.com/remove-bloatware-samsung-galaxy-a32-5g/
I have rooted phone for multiple reasons, one is to be able to uninstall bloatware.
Experimenting little bit with some apps claiming they are able to uninstall bloatware (Titanium, well... surprised badly, while so many good references I heard, Magisk module debloat, Root uninstaller).... but to be honest, I have no clue which apps/modules I can uninstall without consequences, there are so many of them.
Sure, I uninstall those, I know and wish to uninstall - FB, Instagram, Carrier apps and then what?
My intention was to disable whole Knox and ..... well am not sure, its good approach just select to uninstall those item having knox in name.
Any tips or whats yours typical choose to uninstall?
wizzROM Creator a12
wizzROM a12 Creator for Samsung a125 Turn any stock or custom OneUI into a QwizzROM or RwizzROM Also see the Magisk module in post#2 OneUI 2.0 will become QwizzROM OneUI 3.1 will become RwizzROM Debloated ROM with Extras Extras: Battery...
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If you want to keep it stock and debloat it the easiest way is to use a Package Disabler.
You can enabled/disabled real time. Useful for troubleshooting. Uses little resources and battery. After activating it you can firewall block if desired ie with Karma Firewall for example.
blackhawk said:
If you want to keep it stock and debloat it the easiest way is to use a Package Disabler.
You can enabled/disabled real time. Useful for troubleshooting. Uses little resources and battery. After activating it you can firewall block if desired ie with Karma Firewall for example.
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Nice
blackhawk said:
If you want to keep it stock and debloat it the easiest way is to use a Package Disabler.
You can enabled/disabled real time. Useful for troubleshooting. Uses little resources and battery. After activating it you can firewall block if desired ie with Karma Firewall for example.
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So that method requires the user to have some knowledge of which apps can be safely deleted.
My method allows them to debloat without that worry
physwizz said:
So that method requires the user to have some knowledge of which apps can be safely deleted.
My method allows them to debloat without that worry
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I've never boot looped any phones using this kind of app in 6 years. Some apps like One UI Home or Galaxy Graphics Driver shouldn't be disabled.
Other times apps you normally wouldn't disable you want to because it's using excessive battery or misbehaving like Playstore or Google backup Transport.
blackhawk said:
I've never boot looped any phones using this kind of app in 6 years. Some apps like One UI Home or Galaxy Graphics Driver shouldn't be disabled.
Other times apps you normally wouldn't disable you want to because it's using excessive battery or misbehaving like Playstore or Google backup Transport.
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As I told my students over many years.
There is never ever only one way to do anything.
What is great for one person may not suit another
Just don't use stock at all, some apps like ONE UI home you might be able to get a workaround. There is always a workaround for anything. There use to be workarounds and probably they still exist but in some other way then before, I use to do.
You can remove at least some of the bloatware just by flashing a PNG (Papua New Guinea) or some other financially-unpromising country stock firmware. Just look at the size of the CSC image file, it must be about 64 MB. For example, prism.img in the PNG firmware is absolutely minimal and completely devoid of the "app" dir, so you'll get no forcefully installed "partner" applications. Many other unneeded apps are either uninstallable or blockable in Android 11. Even Google Services are blockable, you'll only get two extra warning notifications after a phone reboot but otherwise no other functionality lost (in case you're using Aurora Store instead of Google Play that is). But actually it will be a pretty privacy-lame system, because there's still a lot of Samsung's and Google's stuff left in the system. So basically, to achieve at least some kind of actual degooglification you have to root it with Magisk, and then uproot all the Samsung's and Google's apps via "adb shell pm uninstall".

Question Xperia 5 iii experiences?

Hi I have a concern about my next phone purchase (hopefully an Xperia 5 III).
I currently have an Xperia XZ2C that I'm looking to replace.
The main concern/frustration with it is a few pre-loaded apps that I don't want kept trying to load and also update (e.g. Facebook and Sony News)... it took a long while and lots of searching, but Sony was blocking users from uninstalling these and the only option I found was to completely root it, which I don't especially want to do as I'm tryign to leave my daily driver stock... or to mark them as disabled - they stop wasting battery or annoying me with update requests, but still waste storage space.
I mentioned this to a friend who has the Xperia 5 II and apparently this problem has got a lot worse as it now includes mandatory games that cannot be uninstalled (e.g. Call of Duty - which is over 2Gb + 3Gb for the first update!!).
Apparently these apps and games wasted nearly 10% of his phone - more than the entire operating system. Are these apps able to be properly uninstalled on the Xperia 5 III or is this unwanted bloat still stuck on the devices?
I actually like that game, but I'll stick to my PC / consoles.... maybe a tablet at a stretch.... no way I ever want it even installed on my daily driver phone!
Or failing that, I abandon the plans to keep it stock.... So how long before there is a stock+root for this phone? So I can start trying one of those bloatware removers?
I have a 5II, and I can deactivate unused system apps. They don't use that much space once they are deactivated. Also, if you really need them gone, you can always use ADB. It doesn't need root.
How to uninstall carrier/OEM bloatware without root access
If you want to get rid of carrier/OEM apps from your phone, here's how you can uninstall bloatware from your device without root access!
www.xda-developers.com
EDIT: Ok, just saw that pm uninstall also needs root if you want to do it for more than user0. Sorry for not realising.
"Ok, just saw that pm uninstall also needs root if you want to do it for more than user0. Sorry for not realising."
This is true but at least it will uninstall it for you the end user. The only way it will show up again is if you do a factory reset. So technically yes it will still be there, but they don't take up that much room and at least they're gone from trying to do anything in the background. Also, if this will not uninstall it, you can also do the command to disable said bloat if you cannot disable it in settings.
Coirpre said:
I have a 5II, and I can deactivate unused system apps. They don't use that much space once they are deactivated. Also, if you really need them gone, you can always use ADB. It doesn't need root.
How to uninstall carrier/OEM bloatware without root access
If you want to get rid of carrier/OEM apps from your phone, here's how you can uninstall bloatware from your device without root access!
www.xda-developers.com
EDIT: Ok, just saw that pm uninstall also needs root if you want to do it for more than user0. Sorry for not realising.
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Thanks for this - as per Jaseman's comment, this won't FULLY uninstall apps, but it's a great start as some "system" (bloatware) apps can't even be disabled is settings or if disabled will resurrect and re-enable themselves every time there's a system update ("Sony News", GRRRRRR!!!!)..... at least this way if it has something utterly ridiculous on a high-end "professional" phone, like Call Of Duty Warzone, then it will stop it from doing the 4Gb update!

Rooted Android Security Measures. What are they?

I've never rooted an Android. One of the warnings I see over and over is that rooted devices are more vulnerable to malware. I don't see any solutions for this though.
What extra measures will I need to take to keep my Android safe?
I use Norton 360 on my PC and Androids. Will this be of any help?
Are there any apps I can install to help with this issue?
Are there any system settings I should use for this particular problem?
Thank you
With stock or rooted the biggest threat is the user themselves. Most either install or download the malware themselves. A fully updated stock Android isn't invulnerable; there's no saving dumb bunnies...
Side loaded apps are high risk; at the least scan with online Virustotal and consider the results before installing. Keep email in the cloud and be careful if you choose to download anything.
All downloads stay in the download folder until vetted. Jpeg's and png's are suspect; open them there first before moving them and watch for strange behavior in that folder. Check the download folder daily for anything you didn't download, if found do not open, delete.
Keep thrash social media apps off the phone, all of them. They are targets and vectors for malware of all types.
Use a good firewall and police what apps are doing. Revoke internet access to all apps that don't need it. Know what apps have run at start permissions; do they need it? Updates and upgrades can cause more lost time then malware trying to find work arounds. Lock auto updates down, and download them only if needed. Updates and firmware upgrades can and do break things...
Most importantly cover your six and be prepared.
Critical data can not be lost, protect it!
Redundantly backup all critical data to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC. Be ready to do a full reload if needed.
If malware is found or suspected, isolate the phone and if it can't be completely deleted in an hour or two, nuke that load. Be ready to change passwords and secure accounts.
Never trust antivirus apps to detect malware or save you, mostly they just waste resources on an Android.
Thank you!
I'm already doing a lot of those things, especially social media apps.
One of the reasons I want to root my phone is that I can't uninstall, force stop, disable or take away permissions for some apps, like Facebook, Facebook App installer, FB app manager Google, ad nauseum. The same goes for the millions of preinstalled Samsung bloatware apps. They dont stay disabled and routinely restore permissions. Im sick of having to routinely check them all. I'll never buy another Saamsung again.
You're welcome. Welcome to XDA
I run 2 stock N10+'s, one on Pie, the other on 10.
I use package disabler to kill bloatware and services I don't want to run at bootup. You can also use a adb editing app to disable apks. Don't go too nuts; be wary of disabling any Samsung system apps. Most of these apps just sit unless needed. Dependencies... actions have consequences; understand what the app does and what other apps, services or UI functions are dependent on it!
Google play Services can be disabled when not needed; disable find my device as System Administrator first.
On Pie Karma Firewall is fully functional but not on Android 10 and up, although it will still block access. It uses virtually no battery.
Once you sort it out (learning curve ahead) stock Samsung's especially older ones like the N10+ are easy to run. They are the most customizable stock Android on the planet with an excellent UI. The current load on this one will be 2 yo this June; still fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. Security is simply not an issue.
blackhawk said:
You're welcome. Welcome to XDA
I run 2 stock N10+'s, one on Pie, the other on 10.
I use package disabler to kill bloatware and services I don't want to run at bootup. You can also use a adb editing app to disable apks. Don't go too nuts; be wary of disabling any Samsung system apps. Most of these apps just sit unless needed. Dependencies... actions have consequences; understand what the app does and what other apps, services or UI functions are dependent on it!
Google play Services can be disabled when not needed; disable find my device as System Administrator first.
On Pie Karma Firewall is fully functional but not on Android 10 and up, although it will still block access. It uses virtually no battery.
Once you sort it out (learning curve ahead) stock Samsung's especially older ones like the N10+ are easy to run. They are the most customizable stock Android on the planet with an excellent UI. The current load on this one will be 2 yo this June; still fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. Security is simply not an issue.
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The more annoying Samsung apps I was referring to are the Bixby apps, AR doodle, Smarter things... those kind of apps. If they didn't re-enable themselves restore permissions, I wouldn't mind them so much. But they DO.
I won't be using that phone much longer anyway. I'm going back to Motorola.
I always buy factory or globally unlocked phones. That helps some. But Motorola recently started forcing FB. I can uninstall it, however I have to review updates to make sure it doesn't end up on my phone again. But then I review all updates before installing them anyway..
I always look up the system apps before making any changes. Like Google Easter Egg. Everything I could find says it's unnecessary.
All those mentioned apps can be safely disabled.
Bixby Vision is used for barcode scanning though.
Try the free Galaxy store icon packs, themes and the Good Lock family of apps including One Handed Operation plus.
Chose theme>icon pack>whatever wallpaper you want. The native high contrast theme looks good.
Play with it...
blackhawk said:
All those mentioned apps can be safely disabled.
Bixby Vision is used for barcode scanning though.
Try the free Galaxy store icon packs, themes and the Good Lock family of apps including One Handed Operation plus.
Chose theme>icon pack>whatever wallpaper you want. The native high contrast theme looks good.
Play with it...
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I actually already ordered a new Moto. It will be here tomorrow. Well, it's after 1am, so I guess it'll be here later today.
I've disabled multiple Samsung apps, restricted data and battery, taken away permissions, not just in app settings, but in permissions setting, special access permissions... And all the other weird ways I keep finding out about that you wouldn't think would be a place to remove permissions. When my phone starts to slow down, or the battery isn't lasting very long, sure enough, Samsung has gone behind my back and reset my preferences again. I never had issues like this any of the Motorola phones I've had.

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