I was looking through the video quality settings on my A71 and there doesn't seem to be a 4K 60fps option. If i'm not mistaken, the 765g is capable of 4k 60 and I know the camera hardware surely does so what's up with that?
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Hi All, what makes the 4K content that your phones camera better? does the Snapdragon 805 provide better 4K capture than the 801?
Also is there a third party stable 4K Video recorder apk for android phones? (Assuming the phone its used on actually supports 4k)
Will the Galaxy Note 3 4K recording be worse than the Note 4's 4K Recording?
Just in case anyone is woundering, my phone is the Oppo find 7a, though my questions are aimed at the broader picture of 4K, not 4K on my phone so i thought it would be best placed in the general forum.
Thanks!
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Xiaomi Mi 9 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Coming from a Mi Mix 2S I can not stress enough how great the Video quality is on this Phone. Smooth 60FPS in a 4K Video and very fast and crisp autofocus makes this camera a joy.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kE1YdfFzzhJZKdLAA
The Mi 9 does suffer from judder in 4K 30fps which are a result of missed frames.
This has also been confirmed on dxomark review
Hopefully this can be fixed in a software update
mulkman said:
The Mi 9 does suffer from judder in 4K 30fps which are a result of missed frames.
This has also been confirmed on dxomark review
Hopefully this can be fixed in a software update
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Yeah, a lot of my 4k 30 fps videos have this problem
Gokh said:
Yeah, a lot of my 4k 30 fps videos have this problem
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We need to hit up the xiaomi forum and get some confirmations on my thread.
https://en.miui.com/thread-6006991-1-1.html
Register and reply back to the thread and give a confirmation that you experience the same issue. This will make them investigate the issue
A video recorded by me from Xiaomi Store in London in 4K 30fps with stabilisation (judder / dropped frames)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYCKvPU-ir4
I have same issue with my brand new mi9..
johnnyman25 said:
I have same issue with my brand new mi9..
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For some reason the videos look worse on YouTube then on my 4K Samsung TV. This may due to the way YouTube processes those dropped frames, during its conversion process.
This needs to be fixed as its a big disappointment.
The Snapdragon 855 has more than enough power to handle 4K at 30fps with AI stabilisation but the Mi 9 lack of OIS could be the reason why it struggles during panning
The video is EXTREMELY SHAKY - EIS seems nonexistant.
- Audio is 14/20 (concert recording ok, quieter scenes a bit less nice)
EDIT:
- This is due to limitations on 4K60
- EIS is good on 4K30 - but then there are dropped frames.
I dislike the EIS implementation of Xiaomi (so called stabilization) on the Mi 9. It crops the image and you loose sharpness over stabilization. If you turn it off you also have a wider view.
My other phone (Mi 9 SE) the EIS is less agressive, so the crop is less perhaps due to the lesser cpu. The actual image looks better because it is sharper, detailed and has a wider view. The problem is that EIS causes judder when panning because the software is not optimized and more judder with lesser cpu. I actually prefer that they implemented the EIS on the Mi 9 with less cropping.
Strange is that I disable stabilization on both Mi 9 and Mi 9 SE but the video is still sharper and more detailed on the Mi 9 SE.
Androidzor said:
I dislike the EIS implementation of Xiaomi (so called stabilization) on the Mi 9. It crops the image and you loose sharpness over stabilization. E.
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To be noted that now Gcam supports EIS in 4k 30 fps and 60 fps with much less cropping.
meroupow said:
To be noted that now Gcam supports EIS in 4k 30 fps and 60 fps with much less cropping.
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The stabilization is not as slider smooth as MIUI cam, though. I'd still prefer to disable EIS and have my gimbal for serious video recording.
Its excellent actually thanks to the new GCAM mod by urnyx05. It supports 100Mbits 4K 60fps videos with working video stabilization!! Working video stabilization on 4k 60fps is really uncommon. Non of the flagships have it nor even iPhones support it.
AdrixStrife said:
Its excellent actually thanks to the new GCAM mod by urnyx05. It supports 100Mbits 4K 60fps videos with working video stabilization!! Working video stabilization on 4k 60fps is really uncommon. Non of the flagships have it nor even iPhones support it.
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Actually, many of today's flagship can stabilize [email protected] including but not limited to iPhone 11 series, Samsung S20 series, even OPPO Find X2 Pro can do it as well. Xiaomi isn't left behind as Mi 10 series can do it, unfortunately as typical Xiaomi, they don't backport many features to older devices.
AdrixStrife said:
Its excellent actually thanks to the new GCAM mod by urnyx05. It supports 100Mbits 4K 60fps videos with working video stabilization!! Working video stabilization on 4k 60fps is really uncommon. Non of the flagships have it nor even iPhones support it.
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Hi, can you please point out which version of the GCam you're talking about? I've been looking for ways to get at least 1080p 60fps with EIS on my Mi9 but no luck so far..
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Hi, can you please point out which version of the GCam you're talking about? I've been looking for ways to get at least 1080p 60fps with EIS on my Mi9 but no luck so far..
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https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-urnyx05/
Besides the 5 minute recording length limitation and the increased file size, is there any reason not to use the 4k 60fps setting if I know the video will be under 5 minutes? (I can't last that long [just kidding])
For example is the stabilization worse? Would the quality be worse than native 1080p if it were to be downscaled?
I believe 4K 60fps uses only OIS and not EIS. 4K 30fps uses both.
I believe it to be true because in my own testing, 4K 30fps seems to be more stable, even though 4K 60fps looks more stable while recording (in the viewfinder).
Secondly, many people simply do not like the extra smooth effect 60fps provides, which is why they stick to 30.
And finally, I'm not too sure about downscaling as I've never done that myself. I prefer to keep my videos at their highest quality/resolution possible.
HI, people, Realme 5 Pro owner here.
The highest video resolution on my Gcam is 1080p and I don't have an option for 4K video.
How to get the 4K option?
I tried installing Gcam v6 and Gcam v7 - same deal on both. They both do not offer 4K video.
By the way, is there any app out there that would allow me to have EIS on 4K video?
Anyone with an answer?
I was just wondering how do most people get 4K video on their Gcams with Realme 5 Pro.
Do I have to mess with root access? Anything that I am missing here?
Also, my Gcam does not support 48 Megapixel photos... The largest I can go on the rear camera is 8 Megapixel. It also crashes when I try to shoot slow motion.
What a mess! There are so many problems with this thing... I am starting to regret buying the phone.
Same question here. ?
I always used Gcam for photography and videos because it enhances photos and stabilize videos but the most important feature for me was recording 4K videos at 60 fps, originally the MIUI cam can't record at that fps but somehow
Gor the Gcam it's possible. Today i just switched to a custom ROM wich is Corvus OS, i installed Gcam but i was surprised it can't record at 60 fps cuz it's showing error.
It's 89% something related to software a.k.a the custom rom, becs when i switch to the stock rom, the [email protected] is working perfectly.
Anyone has an idea about this, is it possible to enable 4K @60fps without switching to Stock ROM ?
Adameur said:
I always used Gcam for photography and videos because it enhances photos and stabilize videos but the most important feature for me was recording 4K videos at 60 fps, originally the MIUI cam can't record at that fps but somehow
Gor the Gcam it's possible. Today i just switched to a custom ROM wich is Corvus OS, i installed Gcam but i was surprised it can't record at 60 fps cuz it's showing error.
It's 89% something related to software a.k.a the custom rom, becs when i switch to the stock rom, the [email protected] is working perfectly.
Anyone has an idea about this, is it possible to enable 4K @60fps without switching to Stock ROM ?
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It's because of sensor, not software. IMX 682 sensor supports maximum 4K 30fps & it's slightly worse version than IMX 686 sensor which supports 4K 60fps.
That means that it's hardware issue, not software.
SkaboXD said:
It's because of sensor, not software. IMX 682 sensor supports maximum 4K 30fps & it's slightly worse version than IMX 686 sensor which supports 4K 60fps.
That means that it's hardware issue, not software.
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So how tf i was able to record at 60fps on 4K when I was on MIUI ?
And i even did a fps meter test ro check and it was between 58_59 fps
SkaboXD said:
It's because of sensor, not software. IMX 682 sensor supports maximum 4K 30fps & it's slightly worse version than IMX 686 sensor which supports 4K 60fps.
That means that it's hardware issue, not software.
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Thats weird, that was what i thought until i saw these phones specs.
Realme GT
Realme X7 Max
ZTE Axon 30
Xiaomi Mi 10T
All say they use the IMX 682 and all support 4K/60
So what is going on here? Is it the sensor? Is it the soc? Is it just marketing? Did some manage to overcome the harware limitations?
Assuming the sony specs are true. The only thing i can think of is :
a) If imx682 its capable for 1080p /120 then theoretically it could record 2k/60? and then use an upscale trick or something?
b) Using a trick in realtime or in post-process to convert 30 to 60fps with a fast soc (MEMC style)
(i don't know if or how how pixel binning can be applied in video recording so i'm leaving this out)
I have so many questions
EDIT: there is a discussion about the IMX582/586 here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4k-60fps-with-gcam.4265067/
psychorat said:
Thats weird, that was what i thought until i saw these phones specs.
Realme GT
Realme X7 Max
ZTE Axon 30
Xiaomi Mi 10T
All say they use the IMX 682 and all support 4K/60
So what is going on here? Is it the sensor? Is it the soc? Is it just marketing? Did some manage to overcome the harware limitations?
Assuming the sony specs are true. The only thing i can think of is :
a) If imx682 its capable for 1080p /120 then theoretically it could record 2k/60? and then use an upscale trick or something?
b) Using a trick in realtime or in post-process to convert 30 to 60fps with a fast soc (MEMC style)
(i don't know if or how how pixel binning can be applied in video recording so i'm leaving this out)
I have so many questions
EDIT: there is a discussion about the IMX582/586 here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4k-60fps-with-gcam.4265067/
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4K and 60 FPS works in GCam in Custom ROMs.
ArrowOS 20210601, Aspen GCam 8.1.200
Noter2017 said:
4K and 60 FPS works in GCam in Custom ROMs.
ArrowOS 20210601, Aspen GCam 8.1.200
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Have you verified with MediaInfo that it's 60fps? Because I can select that too but it still outputs 4k 30fps.
psychorat said:
Thats weird, that was what i thought until i saw these phones specs.
Realme GT
Realme X7 Max
ZTE Axon 30
Xiaomi Mi 10T
All say they use the IMX 682 and all support 4K/60
So what is going on here? Is it the sensor? Is it the soc? Is it just marketing? Did some manage to overcome the harware limitations?
Assuming the sony specs are true. The only thing i can think of is :
a) If imx682 its capable for 1080p /120 then theoretically it could record 2k/60? and then use an upscale trick or something?
b) Using a trick in realtime or in post-process to convert 30 to 60fps with a fast soc (MEMC style)
(i don't know if or how how pixel binning can be applied in video recording so i'm leaving this out)
I have so many questions
EDIT: there is a discussion about the IMX582/586 here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4k-60fps-with-gcam.4265067/
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In the time of the posting I thought like that, but still, POCO F3 with IMX582 can record 4k 60fps with Gcam, but it has some micro stuttering. Which also could mean that sensor is not fully capable of it. It can be the same case here.
SkaboXD said:
Have you verified with MediaInfo that it's 60fps? Because I can select that too but it still outputs 4k 30fps.
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You are absolutely right, sorry.
Recording doesn't start when I select 4K and 60 FPS
SkaboXD said:
In the time of the posting I thought like that, but still, POCO F3 with IMX582 can record 4k 60fps, but it has some micro stuttering. Which also could mean that sensor is not fully capable of it. It can be the same case here.
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So i guess it kinda works if your SOC is able to handle 4k60
psychorat said:
So i guess it kinda works if your SOC is able to handle 4k60
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S870 can handle it, so it's not because of that. Camera sensor probably misses the buffer power to deliver 100% smooth 4k 60fps. But it's better still than 30fps.
SkaboXD said:
S870 can handle it, so it's not because of that. Camera sensor probably misses the buffer power to deliver 100% smooth 4k 60fps. But it's better still than 30fps.
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Yes i mean it works with some dropped frames but you also need a SOC that can do it. I have seen that Poco X3 Pro can do it but on Poco X3 with 732G it seems a no go because of the SOC limitation.
Sorry for my bad English.