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I bought an ATT frequency compatible NS (from negri) before it was available on ATT. Everything works as expected on ATT. However, the other day I removed my SIM, did a factory wipe, and then rebooted back into the bootloader and noticed that it reported "ATT" as my network even without the SIM installed. Does this mean my phone is somehow locked to ATT now? I don't care for my personal use but when I end up selling this thing later my expectation was that the next owner could use whichever frequency compatible carrier they choose. I don't have a way to test this with a different SIM. What's the deal here?
If you bought it from AT&T then it can only use AT&T's data networks. T-Mo and AT&T both use SIM so you can switch them out, but only shfor 2g/edge and voice.
That's just carrier info, if it wasn't a Google Nexus phone it would have influence on the phone. There's no downside of having a ATT in the bootloader carrier info.
Some ppl spread rumors that only "free", eg EUR (for Europe), phones get updates via Google, but it has yet to be proofed.
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I bought an ATT frequency compatible NS (from negri) before it was available on ATT. Everything works as expected on ATT. However, the other day I removed my SIM, did a factory wipe, and then rebooted back into the bootloader and noticed that it reported "ATT" as my network even without the SIM installed. Does this mean my phone is somehow locked to ATT now? I don't care for my personal use but when I end up selling this thing later my expectation was that the next owner could use whichever frequency compatible carrier they choose. I don't have a way to test this with a different SIM. What's the deal here?
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No nexus phone is sold sim locked, even the carrier subsidized versions.
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andythefan said:
If you bought it from AT&T then it can only use AT&T's data networks. T-Mo and AT&T both use SIM so you can switch them out, but only shfor 2g/edge and voice.
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I said where I bought it (negri electronics) before it was even available from ATT.
The 9020a is frequency compatible with ATT, Canadian carriers, some others elsewhere in the Americas, and will do 2G/gprs in nearly every region.
My question was about the phone reporting ATT as the carrier info in the bootloader w/out a sim. Phone has zero relation to att other than it happens to support UMTS on the same bands.
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No nexus phone is sold sim locked, even the carrier subsidized versions.
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I realize this from reading it everywhere. I just find it odd for att to show even with no SIM. Maybe it just reports whatever the last installed sim was?
ellesshoo said:
I realize this from reading it everywhere. I just find it odd for att to show even with no SIM. Maybe it just reports whatever the last installed sim was?
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The carrier info is independant from your last SIM card. Atm there's no hint to what the carrier info in bootloader is used for. For the European version (VDF, O2, EUR) you can change them around as you please via Odin w/o any effect on your phone.
krohnjw said:
No nexus phone is sold sim locked, even the carrier subsidized versions.
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If I understand that correctly: Any Nexus S, in its AT&T version bought at any Best Buy store in the USA is 100% SIM unlocked, correct?
But, what about the Operating system itself, Android: Does a Nexus S AT&T version bought at a Best Buy store has the pristine original version of Android as Google intended, with all its features (and describes on www (dot) google (dot) com/nexus/#/tech-specs ) ?
I have read of cases that, for instance, Nexus S AT&T phones from Best Buy had its tethering feature disabled ? If so, is this a tinkering of the OS by the carrier or store no matter the SIM (i.e. if I put in a SIM from my country's carrier, it'd still have tethering blocked)? or this presumed "disablement" of tethering is SIM/carrier dependent (i.e., not an Android alteration per se)?
Any comments on this are well appreciated. I plan on buying soon a Nexus S on Best Buy during a next trip to the USA. The phone will be used in Mexico where my carrier uses the same frequencies as AT&T or 3g.
Thanks in advance.
I know what you think, go phone sucks, not enough data blah blah blah. But AT&T recently upgraded their gophone data plan to 1GB from 500 mb. Honestly 1GB for me is more than enough cause I use wifi at home, wifi at work, I live in the Washington dc area and there's wifi everywhere so I barely even use my data. Do you think I'll be able to buy the one XL ( off contract of course) or will AT&T give me a hard time cause I'm a gophone customer? I'm just worry about the fact that it's LTE.
You might get some pushback from the rep or manager, but there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to get it. You will just have to change your APN, as the only one that works with prepaid is "wap.cingular"
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mosesman86 said:
You might get some pushback from the rep or manager, but there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to get it. You will just have to change your APN, as the only one that works with prepaid is "wap.cingular"
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Thanks for the reply, I guess I'll buy it from amazon mobile that way I won't have to deal with the store reps and managers.
I don't know.... they might auto switch you. I would try to ask customer service
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barondebxl said:
Thanks for the reply, I guess I'll buy it from amazon mobile that way I won't have to deal with the store reps and managers.
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Typically, Amazon mobile or other 3rd party retailers, will charge more for non-contract phone than AT&T because they can't get any payback from AT&T.
Your biggest problem will be microSIM activation. You may have to buy a microSIM cutter to trim your current go phone SIM yourself. AT&T won't be thrilled to activate One X for a Go phone plan.
There is also a chance that AT&T will stop your data service once it detects that you are using a 4G smartphone (it has the IMEI number on database) on a Go Phone plan. Yes, it happened to others before.
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Typically, Amazon mobile or other 3rd party retailers, will charge more for non-contract phone than AT&T because they can't get any payback from AT&T.
Your biggest problem will be microSIM activation. You may have to buy a microSIM cutter to trim your current go phone SIM yourself. AT&T won't be thrilled to activate One X for a Go phone plan.
There is also a chance that AT&T will stop your data service once it detects that you are using a 4G smartphone (it has the IMEI number on database) on a Go Phone plan. Yes, it happened to others before.
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Thanks for the advice. I already have a micro sim cutter so I'm good on that end. I'm using a galaxy nexus on my go phone for about 3 weeks and no problem at all. It isn't 4G though so I don't know.
barondebxl said:
Thanks for the advice. I already have a micro sim cutter so I'm good on that end. I'm using a galaxy nexus on my go phone for about 3 weeks and no problem at all. It isn't 4G though so I don't know.
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The difference here is that AT&T has no idea what Galaxy Nexus is because it doesn't have the IMEI number on file because it is not an AT&T branded phone. It does have all IMEI# of AT&T branded phones on file.
foxbat121 said:
The difference here is that AT&T has no idea what Galaxy Nexus is because it doesn't have the IMEI number on file because it is not an AT&T branded phone. It does have all IMEI# of AT&T branded phones on file.
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True. I'll call an AT&T store and ask them just to make sure.
It's a lot easier to do something like that with T-mobile's monthly 4g pre-paid plans. All you need to do is order a sim online from them. They don't care what you use with their plan.
If I recall correctly u need a special lte sim to use lte.
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I don't really need lte, if I pop up my sum can I use hspa+?
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Your phone won't get hspa+ or lte on prepaid service. In fact, you won't get any data until you change your apn to wap.cingular, which is a 3G apn. If you need a microsim, just go to the at&t store and tell them you don't have your phone but you want to activate a prepaid plan. Be sure to specify that you need a microsim and they will just put a dummy IMEI consisting of all 1111111.
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mosesman86 said:
Your phone won't get hspa+ or lte on prepaid service. In fact, you won't get any data until you change your apn to wap.cingular, which is a 3G apn. If you need a microsim, just go to the at&t store and tell them you don't have your phone but you want to activate a prepaid plan. Be sure to specify that you need a microsim and they will just put a dummy IMEI consisting of all 1111111.
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I have hspa+ speeds on my nexus with my go phone plan.
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barondebxl said:
I have hspa+ speeds on my nexus with my go phone plan.
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Despite the US Carrier's "4G" (fauxG) marketing blitz, HSPA is actually 3G. The LTE build out is a proper 4th generation network.
If you do not care about LTE why not import an international version and not have to worry? Also you might be able to buy one from Rogers in Canada it is the same device but AT&T shouldn't have the IMEI number
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If you do not care about LTE why not import an international version and not have to worry? Also you might be able to buy one from Rogers in Canada it is the same device but AT&T shouldn't have the IMEI number
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I've actually thought about buying one from rogers. Like the fact it doesn't have a
carrier logo, but I don't know of any shops that sells them to ship in the states.
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If you do not care about LTE why not import an international version and not have to worry?
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AT&T version has 1-year warranty while imported version likely has zero warranty. If you bricked your phone one way or another, a warranty is probably quite important to most of us.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but unlocking bootloader on newer HTC phones is done via HTC Dev, and that voids your warranty automatically ( as in they have your IMEI and know you rooted with them)?
If so, then don't worry about having warranty for bricking the device, you lost it when bootlader was unlocked.
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If so, then don't worry about having warranty for bricking the device, you lost it when bootlader was unlocked.
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When your phone is bricked, e.g. can't boot up, there is no way AT&T can tell which version or unlocked boot loader you are using. At least not for the clerks at warranty center. If your bootloader is still functioning. Chances are you can still manage to load another ROM on to it.
Besides, there could be other hardware defacts that you may need to exchange. A warranty is always welcome.
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If you do not care about LTE why not import an international version and not have to worry? Also you might be able to buy one from Rogers in Canada it is the same device but AT&T shouldn't have the IMEI number
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Because I rather have the snapdragon S4 processor than the tegra 3. Also the international versions as a crapload of issues right now.
I use At&t carries.
I want to buy a Moto G MOT1031ABB or MOTXT1028PP that only 99$.
But I don't know it can use as GSM with At&t or wwithout.
Can you have me?
Lee Chen Lua said:
I use At&t carries.
I want to buy a Moto G MOT1031ABB or MOTXT1028PP that only 99$.
But I don't know it can use as GSM with At&t or wwithout.
Can you have me?
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No I can't have you, as I'm not interested in a relationship right now. But the moto g for $99 is the verizon model (CDMA) last time I checked. ATT is not compatible.
wolfen69 said:
No I can't have you, as I'm not interested in a relationship right now. But the moto g for $99 is the verizon model (CDMA) last time I checked. ATT is not compatible.
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thank guy
MOTXT1028PP of Verizon, also MOT1031ABB of Boost Mobile?
who can help me
Verizon and Boost versions are both CDMA and not compatible with AT&T.
I have the Boost version and flashed to Verizon version to use on PagePlus which runs on Verizon Wireless
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Verizon and Boost versions are both CDMA and not compatible with AT&T.
I have the Boost version and flashed to Verizon version to use on PagePlus which runs on Verizon Wireless
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So the boost version can be unlocked?
I wonder if you can unlock the Verizon version after 6 months
So the boost version can be unlocked?
YES I've unlocked mine without a problem then flashed with Verizon firmware and use on PagePlus. You won't be able to use it with Verizon prepaid or post paid
I wonder if you can unlock the Verizon version after 6 month?
I wouldn't count on it. The only thing you may be able to do after six months is move from prepaid to a post paid plan. Other then being able to change plan type your probably out of luck. There is a bounty offered to find a way to unlock but so far no solution.
netkeys said:
So the boost version can be unlocked?
YES I've unlocked mine without a problem then flashed with Verizon firmware and use on PagePlus. You won't be able to use it with Verizon prepaid or post paid
I wonder if you can unlock the Verizon version after 6 month?
I wouldn't count on it. The only thing you may be able to do after six months is move from prepaid to a post paid plan. Other then being able to change plan type your probably out of luck. There is a bounty offered to find a way to unlock but so far no solution.
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So you used Motorola's website which voids the warranty?
Anyone know if the U.S. Cellular version can be unlocked? It is $79.99
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So you used Motorola's website which voids the warranty?
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YES
I don't know about US cel version
How do you like Page Plus? how does it compare to VZW prepaid? I'm paying $45 per month for 1GB data and unlimited talk & text, coverage is the same as it was with my last CDMA straight talk phone.
Made the mistake of buying two Verizon Moto G's
Sounds like I should have bought one and one boost, or maybe the U.S. cel ver.
I've had my phone long enough that I am no longer on contract with Verizon.
I have been checking coverage maps and talking to lots of people who use the phones and it seems my only viable options in my area if I want good coverage are: AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint. I know AT&T and Verizon lock down the bootloaders. I know nothing about Sprint's policies. Coverage map looks good in my area and the areas I travel to and from. I would gladly switch to Sprint to avoid locked bootloaders.
Any input?
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I've had my phone long enough that I am no longer on contract with Verizon.
I have been checking coverage maps and talking to lots of people who use the phones and it seems my only viable options in my area if I want good coverage are: AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint. I know AT&T and Verizon lock down the bootloaders. I know nothing about Sprint's policies. Coverage map looks good in my area and the areas I travel to and from. I would gladly switch to Sprint to avoid locked bootloaders.
Any input?
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Tell me the phone model and installed bootloader / firmware version
LS.xD said:
Tell me the phone model and installed bootloader / firmware version
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Galaxy S5 for Sprint. Or even the Nexus 5
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draexo said:
Galaxy S5 for Sprint. Or even the Nexus 5
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Could you be a little more specific? The phone model (e.g SG-i9505) and the installed firmware was a relly usefull info
model number SM-G900P
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I was able to unlock my G935T, Galaxy S7Edge today so I can use it on my ATT Account. I had to call TMO customer service because the Unlock Ap that came with the phone would not authorize the unlock when I first tried it.
Over the last few days, in the process of getting unlocked I learned a few things:
1) Phone has to be on TMOBILE for about 5 to 7 days before their system can recognize the device. it might happen sooner - took five days for their systems to see that I had the S7 Edge active on the account.
2) until we are rooted, you have to be able to meet Tmobile Requirements to unlock a device:
A) Be a Tmobile customer for a minimum of 1 year
B) Phone is active on TMOBILE Account for a minimum of 40 days
C) Phone is active on a PRE-PAY account. and Pre Pay account has a minimum balance of $100
From what I understand, You only need to meet one of the three requirements, A or B or C.
My experience in working with Customer Support was mixed. Most were very helpful (I have been trying to get customer support to authorize my unlock since day 2 of owning the phone) One guy was a jerk and refused to accept that I met the requirements. He kept saying something that was not mentioned in the rules at all - sort of making things up to meet his understanding - but when he transferred me to a higher level of support, they understood and actually helped me.
The good news is, there is a guy in Tmobile Note 5 Forums that can help you unlock devices (once you are rooted) My understanding is that he is offering his services free of charge but will accept donations to anyone grateful enough to donate something if the want to. Once we havr root, head over here to get more information) Sim Unlock - US and International
Finally, there is one other way you may be able to unlock your TMobile S7 Edge but you will have to wait until Sammobile has Firmware posted for our devices. Specifically you will need firmware for Metro PC G935T1 (versus G935T) They use the exact same firmware that is used by TMOBILE (at least they did on the Note 5 and S6) Metro PCS does not use the Unlock ap to unlock the sim card, you will just need an unlock code. Flashing their firmware in odin on the S6 and Note 5 would then allow you to put a sim card from another carrier and unlock the sim with an Unlock code. YOU CANNOT use unlock codes on TMOBILE Firmware because of their "Unlock AP" it somehow disables the ability to unlock with a code - but because METRO PC doesn't have the unlock app, it is a non issue.
Hope this is helpful...
Good to know!
So does everything work perfectly on the AT&T network.... Mainly LTE?
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The good news is, there is a guy in Tmobile Note 5 Forums that can help you unlock devices (once you are rooted) My understanding is that he is offering his services free of charge but will accept donations to anyone grateful enough to donate something if the want to. Once we havr root, head over here to get more information) Sim Unlock - US and International
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That is me. Who wants to be first?
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That is me. Who wants to be first?
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Hi stifilz, thank you for coming here! I completed your Google Docs form just now. Obviously we don't have root yet. What's the procedure? Thanks! :good:
I'd like to get information if anyone can inbox me on how I can purchase a T-Mobile S7 Edge to use on ATT. So far, in my local area, T-Mobile won't sell me the device unless I have an account attached to it. I was willing to just buy the device out right.
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I'd like to get information if anyone can inbox me on how I can purchase a T-Mobile S7 Edge to use on ATT. So far, in my local area, T-Mobile won't sell me the device unless I have an account attached to it. I was willing to just buy the device out right.
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I bought my S7E with the same intension. T-Mo rep says I have to keep my line active for 45 days then they will unlock it for me for free. 2 weeks since I got the phone, so we will see.
Buy a prepaid sim kit from Walmart
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eroracing said:
So does everything work perfectly on the AT&T network.... Mainly LTE?
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I'm really interested in how well it works on ATT's network too.
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Yes lte and everything except tethering works but you could get an app for that if your going to purchase the phone outright it's better to buy unlocked version
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duvalbmarley said:
Yes lte and everything except tethering works but you could get an app for that if your going to purchase the phone outright it's better to buy unlocked version
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Thanks for the info! I'm actually choosing tmobile's s7 edge over att's because of the "smart manager" feature, which att had it disabled. Could you confirm that this feature is present on g935t?
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Vaygr said:
Thanks for the info! I'm actually choosing tmobile's s7 edge over att's because of the "smart manager" feature, which att had it disabled. Could you confirm that this feature is present on g935t?
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Yes smart manager feature is present
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duvalbmarley said:
Buy a prepaid sim kit from Walmart
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Are you saying with this kit, you can get the phone unlocked immediately?
bird333 said:
Are you saying with this kit, you can get the phone unlocked immediately?
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Yes if you also put 100 dollar refill card on the account
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Yes if you also put 100 dollar refill card on the account
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How can you get the $100 back though?
I have no idea I was just quoting
http://www.t-mobile.com/company/companyinfo.aspx?tp=Abt_Tab_CompanySimUnlockPolicy
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bird333 said:
How can you get the $100 back though?
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Prepaid is all sales final. You actually have to SPEND the $100 and you will not be refunded.
eroracing said:
So does everything work perfectly on the AT&T network.... Mainly LTE?
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yup. no issues
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I'm really interested in how well it works on ATT's network too.
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works well
Follow up. I got my s7 edge from tmobile. 3 days after i called customer service. Just tell them you are going to travel and you need your phone unlocked then poof