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Scroll lag / stutter?

Hi,
I've noticed that some apps run very smooth, but others can lag for no reason.
For example Play Store. When you open Play Store and start scrolling to the bottom of the home screen (lets say 3-4 rows of apps per swipe down) it lags a lot. It's nowhere close to being smooth. Even when you're at the bottom so everything has loaded, it still isn't smooth when scrolling up and down using normal scroll speed.
Reddit is Fun is also an app that has lots of lag / stutters for me.
Does anyone else experience this?

damanrico said:
Hi,
I've noticed that some apps run very smooth, but others can lag for no reason.
For example Play Store. When you open Play Store and start scrolling to the bottom of the home screen (lets say 3-4 rows of apps per swipe down) it lags a lot. It's nowhere close to being smooth. Even when you're at the bottom so everything has loaded, it still isn't smooth when scrolling up and down using normal scroll speed.
Reddit is Fun is also an app that has lots of lag / stutters for me.
Does anyone else experience this?
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no. i haven't yet experienced any (major) lag in any app (have Play Store obviously and Reddit is Fun installed).. currently on 1.13.401.1.. also as some apps are smooth for you and others not, i would say blame the apps, but lag and smoothness are such subjective terms that I can only say I don't see any lag.

damanrico said:
Hi,
I've noticed that some apps run very smooth, but others can lag for no reason.
For example Play Store. When you open Play Store and start scrolling to the bottom of the home screen (lets say 3-4 rows of apps per swipe down) it lags a lot. It's nowhere close to being smooth. Even when you're at the bottom so everything has loaded, it still isn't smooth when scrolling up and down using normal scroll speed.
Reddit is Fun is also an app that has lots of lag / stutters for me.
Does anyone else experience this?
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Do you have a password manager such as LastPass installed? They can cause lag issues if you have the accessability option set to fill passwords in apps.

velimirchek said:
no. i haven't yet experienced any (major) lag in any app (have Play Store obviously and Reddit is Fun installed).. currently on 1.13.401.1.. also as some apps are smooth for you and others not, i would say blame the apps, but lag and smoothness are such subjective terms that I can only say I don't see any lag.
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Well I can't really blame Play Store since it's a default app. If you don't experience such lag, it must have something to do with my device.
jsaxon2 said:
Do you have a password manager such as LastPass installed? They can cause lag issues if you have the accessability option set to fill passwords in apps.
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Nope.

Here's a short video with GPU Profiling on showing the spikes and stutters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUyyZc-_UGI&feature=youtu.be

damanrico said:
Here's a short video with GPU Profiling on showing the spikes and stutters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUyyZc-_UGI&feature=youtu.be
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i can experience the same "problem" you have. Everybody has it , trust me, but not everybody is sensible like we are.
i also see that the "go back" animation for example in settings is also stutter in 2 /10 times.

boby3104 said:
i can experience the same "problem" you have. Everybody has it , trust me, but not everybody is sensible like we are.
i also see that the "go back" animation for example in settings is also stutter in 2 /10 times.
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Thanks for your reply.
It's strange to me that the top of the line hardware can't even manage to make scrolling a default app like Play Store feel smooth. Even when viewing text comments within the Reddit is Fun app isn't always smooth. That's just scrolling text, not even loading images.
I guess I have to deal with it then. I expected more for this price range.

It's not the device. It's just poorly written apps. Compare for instance Facebook app and metal on older devices. They do the same thing but the experience is night and day. This a fairly new device so updates will come but playstore always stutters no matter the phone. It's been like that for years and I tried maaaaany devices

yes it has absolutely nothing to do with the hardware/device. like @mlodykaras said, it just poor coding.

Okay thanks for all your feedback guys!
Let's hope Google will learn how to write applications for Android correctly :silly:

Well to come back to this. The lag is just insane, there's no other way to put it. When I compare scrolling through the same text with my old Lenovo K3 Note, the U11 lags and stutters all the time while the Lenovo K3 Note doesn't stutter at all. That's just scrolling through text!
I've noticed that if you change the Interactive governor to Performance, the U11 doesn't lag anymore. But this isn't great for the CPU and for battery life of course.
Video 1 shows a 1080p 60fps Twitch stream. You can notice there are some spikes and overall it's close to the green line.
Video 2 shows the same 1080p 60fps Twitch stream. You can notice there are no spikes and overall it's not even close to the green line.
Video 3 shows the same comment thread in Reddit is Fun. I start by using the Performance governor and you can see me switch to the Interactive governor a little later. It's clear there are a ton of spikes using Interactive.
This really shouldn't be happening on such an expensive device.
I've even reverted back to stock using RUU, fresh install no restoring done. Same issues.

I have also noticed few apps other than play store. I am from India and some apps like BookMyShow & Inbox from Gmail stutters and there are always some frame drops. I tested BookMyShow in One plus 5, it runs very smoothly. Idk why it is like this and whether it'll be corrected or not.

My old debloated Galaxy S6 had smoother scrolling in apps in comparison with HTC10 and U11. HTC should adjust some kernel settings ot OS to fix this, it is very annoying. I really hope it will be fixed with Oreo update.

Windforce0511 said:
My old debloated Galaxy S6 had smoother scrolling in apps in comparison with HTC10 and U11. HTC should adjust some kernel settings ot OS to fix this, it is very annoying. I really hope it will be fixed with Oreo update.
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I don't think it would get fixed with oreo update as its not something that requires an overall new version of android.
Had it supposed to be changed, it would've changed by HTC in those 2-3 updates came out till now after the launch.

Problem with HTC is they do not take or even consider feedbacks unless there is some major major glitch.
For HTC this scrolling stutter and overblown of highlights and light sources in camera is just minor issues and they don't care about it.
On the other hand, there is google which takes every feedback seriously and tries to improve the Pixels on the software level as much as the software can.

Ammymike7 said:
Problem with HTC is they do not take or even consider feedbacks unless there is some major major glitch.
For HTC this scrolling stutter and overblown of highlights and light sources in camera is just minor issues and they don't care about it.
On the other hand, there is google which takes every feedback seriously and tries to improve the Pixels on the software level as much as the software can.
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Well Google does create Android so...

MIUI 10 VS Android Pie

Hello everyone, I am looking everywhere to find a proper review of the MIUI 10 VS android Pie experience but no where i could find. Previously I did participate in some thread to ask similar question but I guess it is not in depth enough and it is not accessible to everyone, so here I would like to do a simple comparison between the 2 OS that I have been using so far. To be fair to developer, I would not mention which custom rom I am on for those as on both, i dont face any major bug that will break as daily driver. AFAIK, everything works fine in both MIUI 10 and Android Pie.
1.)Battery
- this is the most well discussed topic in all ROM. So i will put it as the first topic. From my experience of using both. MIUI 10 have better idle battery time and also usage time. People reporting android Pie have much higher SOT but from my experience. Nop. But of course, one thing i notice obviously is how consistent the Pie drain battery. Unlike MIUI10, it can stay at the 90-100 mark for long time, but then when it drops down to 80+ it will drain quick until 30-50% and then start showing slower drain again. Im not sure is it MIUI 10 done it purposely so people will have that placebo effect of "great battery life", but after all, the final SOT and idle time still show longer time in MIUI 10.
Winner: MIUI 10
2.) User friendliness
- MIUI gesture
Swipe up from bottom to back home. Swipe left or right from edge to Back, Swipe up and hold for like 0.5s for recent. then finally, swipe longer and hold for previous apps.
- the good: It is ergonomic, fast, seamless, and never ONE time failed me.
- the bad: especially in youtube or any landscape mode apps, the gesture will mess up sometimes, sometimes instead of following the screen rotation, it stays in the portrait mode of gesture, but sometimes it DOES change accordingly to the screen rotation. Plus if landscape + fullscreen video. 50% of the time I mess up on the gesture. but it dont takes more than 2 tries to get it correct.
Pie's Pill gesture
middle still act as home button. left navigation still act as back button, but with the missing recent button. It switched to the swipe up of the pill to get you to the recent screen. And by holding and sliding left and right on the pill will allow you to scroll around all your apps just like how you Alt-tabbing your window apps.
- the good: you can copy words/sentence from one page of the the pill pull up to another page. The page is not only a graphical image of your last used apps, but you can interact with the content within. Also the swipe up for recent had gotten faster and easier now to switch between apps. From my usage, switching between apps has become effortless with Pie, slightly ahead of MIUI 10 in this segment.
- the bad: the pill left and right sliding seems like a gimmick to me, I don't use it as often as it seems the recent will do the job. The pill left/right sliding require your finger to be on the screen all the time while sliding, and then release to the apps you landed. The problem here is that you don't often land at the right spot, it scrolls fast sometimes, and the other times, its skipping app to app, one by one.
Winner: MIUI 10
3.) Exclusively Features
- Digital Wellbeing by Pie
This is the best awesome thing I can say happened to Pie. Many of us here are obsessed with our phone. Picking up almost every second our mind went blank or free for a second in our daily life. Digital Wellbeing is one of the apps that I hope it will be matured one day enough to allow us to use our phone in a mindful state. Not to be obsessed with it but not to throw it all together to get left behind the technology.
- Remote control by MIUI
The next best thing that I can do with my Redmi note 5 (whyred) is with the IR, i can control most home appliances like my TV and aircond. Which further improve the minimalism of my dream home because I manage to hide and keep all the controller in the drawer and control all with just my phone. And this is where MIUI did great at. Maybe there are 3rd party apps that function the same, but i dont bother to search one for it as the xiaomi build in one are just great.
- Google feed by Pie/oreo
This is the second most visited place for me in my phone. the google feed, I love reading article, update with newest update, world news, etc.... and this just made my life so much easier. Just scroll the the left of my phone and there i got it. LOVE
- vault by MIUI
The previous MIUI 9 i am using, have integrated (seems of) google feed in the app vault. It function the same by scrolling to the left of your homescreen but ever since I update to MIUI 10. the google feed is gone and no where to be found or make it available. I have tried many way but no. So the temporary solution is to place a shortcut of Goggle app on the home screen. Which is quite pain in the eyes to me.
-Drawer
Speaking of home screen minimalism. MIUI 10 do not offer drawer, while Pie does. So to make a clean and minimalist homescreen with Pie is just a breeze. But not that bad on MIUI 10 either. I group 4 folder. Junk, Google app, Tools, Daily. and just with 4 folder my MIUI 10 is clean. But of course I prefer one with drawer. After some understanding of the MIUI 10 gesture that I love of, it make sense that a slide up drawer like the Orea/Pie will not be able to work fluently. SO ya, we have to sacrifice something else to get the thing we want more.
-Alarm
This is a small issue here. Both winner here on MIUI 10 and Pie. Why? Because MIUI 10 has a smart alarm, which give me gentle wake comparing to those old school alarm we got. The smart alarm offered by MIUI 10 is great and amazing. First, it plays soft music, then it will report the current time, today's weather, and remind you to be happy today. (all spoken in chinese). Yes I am chinese so I understand what it says. I cant find anywhere else to change setting for the smart alarm (language, type, sound, etc) So I will assume it only speak chinese for now. XD
While at the same time, Pie implemented a new clock that the alarm is sync with spotify! Here, I can make one playlist, with all gentle wake up music as my alarm, so my alarm will not sound the same anymore. It's very difficult to comment which is better alarm here. MIUI 10 alarm give me a smile on my wake up time. and the weather today, so I know how i need to wear to my office. while the Pie one give me a fresh new alarm everyday.
-Clock
A quick one here, the clock in Pie remain the same except the alarm+spotify, but the clock in MIUI 10 almost got a complete overhaul. The timer especially, have a build in Zen function to me. You can choose the sound to play thruout the timer you set from Campfire, sea breeze, to forest sound.... Which is a very fast and simple companion apps for me to practice my meditation.... very very very practical to me. Not at all a gimmick feature
Winner: Both, I wish there is a rom that I can mix and match with aroma and to get the best out of both world. Both have their own signature here. especially the Pie with their new Digital wellbeing.
4.) Responsiveness
-First, I don't like to compare the "free available ram". For me this is bs. The ram is there for a reason and the purpose of ram to be there is for you to store temporary memory, so why clear or why you need to have a lot of "free available ram"? Those are unused memory and its just a waste. So as long you are using your phone and your ram still able to cope with your number of "active app" opened .... then you are good to go.
- The responsiveness I am talking here is the buttery and fluidity of the phone. The scrolling seems to be a tad bit smoother in MIUI 10. But the animation of Android Pie is unbeatable. The moment you pull up the recent with the pill, and select any apps, the apps just trigger and fire up seamlessly almost like instant. You still see tiny stutter in MIUI 10 edge gesture especially if you pull up to return to home gesture.
Winner: Still MIUI 10, because of how buttery it is scrolling social apps like insta or facebook.
REMEMBER... this is not a bias review nor an 100% accurate review. It is all base on my personal experience. I have been flashing and trying rom and kernel since many years ago, and I know much or less, and I know what thing is BS and what not. Currently I am still on Pie, but seems like Masik just release their new Masik X. I am very eagerly to jump back to MIUI 10.
For your info. Im a die hard fan of pure android, since the samsung galaxy nexus, to nexus 4, the redmi note 3, and now note 5. I swear by how much I love pure android experience. But today, MIUI 10 is really catching up the game. Be open minded.

Just gonna put this here for y'all

That screenshot !
Which ROM are you running on with such a mammoth screen on time

WorstNightmare said:
Which ROM are you running on with such a mammoth screen on time
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PE pie with derp 2.6.
P.S Its still going

LeekGeek said:
PE pie with derp 2.6.
P.S Its still going
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77175633&postcount=111 I have achieved 12hours of SOT in MIUI
If we do WiFi browsing we can achieve 10+ hours SOT easily but if we do 4G browsing then it is not possible to achieve 10+hours SOT
With 4G browsing maximum I have achieved is 8hours SOT

LeekGeek said:
PE pie with derp 2.6.
P.S Its still going
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Thanks for showing the image. My review is not to beat out one of those. I love both of it but some bit from each of them. But from your image, i think it will be misleading if you dont explain clearly. SOT depend on usage a lot. it varies from user to user. Plus it depends on ur signal strength on both wifi and 4g. and from your picture, it seems that you are not on your data. and probably thats is the reason you have strong battery life.

SunilSuni said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77175633&postcount=111 I have achieved 12hours of SOT in MIUI
If we do WiFi browsing we can achieve 10+ hours SOT easily but if we do 4G browsing then it is not possible to achieve 10+hours SOT
With 4G browsing maximum I have achieved is 8hours SOT
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I agree with this post. Much more informative. Else it can mislead many newbie and newcomer who dive into the world of flashing and tweaking.

kuance said:
Thanks for showing the image. My review is not to beat out one of those. I love both of it but some bit from each of them. But from your image, i think it will be misleading if you dont explain clearly. SOT depend on usage a lot. it varies from user to user. Plus it depends on ur signal strength on both wifi and 4g. and from your picture, it seems that you are not on your data. and probably thats is the reason you have strong battery life.
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Its mixed usage.. when I'm out I use 4g signal is low to medium its never excellent.
Used 4g for like 3-5 hrs

LeekGeek said:
Its mixed usage.. when I'm out I use 4g signal is low to medium its never excellent.
Used 4g for like 3-5 hrs
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thanks for the info. It's logical if that is the case. Normally some user like me have 4g on mostly all of the time which ranging from 25-35 hours of phone usage per charge.

For me:
- Pie better: battery, temperatures, smoothness, memory management
- Miui 10 better: features ( remote, dual apps, VoLTE, dual 4G, themes... ), mobile signal, stability, stock camera, some Miui based Rom has good enough customizable

Zanr Zij said:
For me:
- Pie better: battery, temperatures, smoothness, memory management
- Miui 10 better: features ( remote, dual apps, VoLTE, dual 4G, themes... ), mobile signal, stability, stock camera, some Miui based Rom has good enough customizable
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Im just curious how everyone say Pie got better battery. Mind to share experience? I tried both. clean flash, no root, no magisk. same apps and same usage pattern. Both battery seems similar to me with MIUI 10 idle drain seems much significantly better than Pie.

Zanr Zij said:
For me:
- Pie better: battery, temperatures, smoothness, memory management
- Miui 10 better: features ( remote, dual apps, VoLTE, dual 4G, themes... ), mobile signal, stability, stock camera, some Miui based Rom has good enough customizable
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Mobile signal should be the same in all the roms (same modem if we want to stay in arb3). However MIUI is more optimist with the indicator.

Otarie004 said:
Mobile signal should be the same in all the roms (same modem if we want to stay in arb3). However MIUI is more optimist with the indicator.
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It's possible to update the modem while your on arb3, without updating the bootloader itself so you can stay on arb3. People on arb4 modems would be all different depending on which update there currently on.

Otarie004 said:
Mobile signal should be the same in all the roms (same modem if we want to stay in arb3). However MIUI is more optimist with the indicator.
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Maybe it just indicator. I will try again next time. With me after updated to latest Bootloader, phone seem perform a bit better. Older Bootloader useless for me because I will never lookback ARB3 fimrware.
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Alister. said:
It's possible to update the modem while your on arb3, without updating the bootloader itself so you can stay on arb3. People on arb4 modems would be all different depending on which update there currently on.
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You can update modem only
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kuance said:
Im just curious how everyone say Pie got better battery. Mind to share experience? I tried both. clean flash, no root, no magisk. same apps and same usage pattern. Both battery seems similar to me with MIUI 10 idle drain seems much significantly better than Pie.
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Nothing special for me: format, wipe all, flash Rom + Magisk, restore apps by Titanium Backup, using L Speed to get better Doze

Zanr Zij said:
Maybe it just indicator. I will try again next time. With me after updated to latest Bootloader, phone seem perform a bit better. Older Bootloader useless for me because I will never lookback ARB3 fimrware.
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You can update modem only
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Nothing special for me: format, wipe all, flash Rom + Magisk, restore apps by Titanium Backup, using L Speed to get better Doze
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If you mean the icon that represents the signal strength, in android they can be flawed and aren't reliable indicators, need to look at SIM status where it says Signal strength -108 dBm 32 asu that's an accurate number.
Not sure if that's what you meant, yeah modem, and dsp, and bluetooth can all update without the bootloader. :good:

Plus if landscape + fullscreen video. 50% of the time I mess up on the gesture. but it dont takes more than 2 tries to get it correct. @kuance in fullscreen setting there is a option, during fullscreen video or game gesture require two swipe to take effect that maybe the reason

SunilSuni said:
Plus if landscape + fullscreen video. 50% of the time I mess up on the gesture. but it dont takes more than 2 tries to get it correct. @kuance in fullscreen setting there is a option, during fullscreen video or game gesture require two swipe to take effect that maybe the reason
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Yes, thats the reason but i do not want to turn that off because i need to secure my video experience just in case i accidentally swipe it off.

@kuance well mate, I totally agree with you. I was a huge Nexus fan but I have to admit that Google has lost is way. Google gesture are ridiculous, they have simply redisigned the old navbar. No gesture at all, no full screen use, no killer feature compared to other OEM.
I would like to consider also security of a rom, and Xiaomi is pretty quick in merging monthly security update.
I have bought whyred to run Los or other custom rom, but I can just say that now I can't find any good reason to change MIUI 10 with any other rom in xda. And it's just because MIUI 10 is simply amazing.
I think that sooner or later Xiaomi wil be involved in some privacy issue, cause I'm pretty sure that a lot of user info are sended to Xiaomi servers. But I'm not an idiot, and I know very well that using a smartphone, any Smartphone, your privacy simply does not exist.

predek said:
@kuance well mate, I totally agree with you. I was a huge Nexus fan but I have to admit that Google has lost is way. Google gesture are ridiculous, they have simply redisigned the old navbar. No gesture at all, no full screen use, no killer feature compared to other OEM.
I would like to consider also security of a rom, and Xiaomi is pretty quick in merging monthly security update.
I have bought whyred to run Los or other custom rom, but I can just say that now I can't find any good reason to change MIUI 10 with any other rom in xda. And it's just because MIUI 10 is simply amazing.
I think that sooner or later Xiaomi wil be involved in some privacy issue, cause I'm pretty sure that a lot of user info are sended to Xiaomi servers. But I'm not an idiot, and I know very well that using a smartphone, any Smartphone, your privacy simply does not exist.
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Yo bro, im glad that someone understand the intention of me doing this comparison. I am not here to bash how bad Android Pie is or whatever bad thing it has. As I said, i am a die hard fan of nexus and pure android experience. I remembered my Redmi note 3 pro. The first day I unbox my phone is also the first day I switch to pure android. In the meantime, trying to switch to MIUI trying to "give a chance" to the so called "bloated" OS.... I cant. I give up, and still back to pure android. But it's different today. It seems that the chinese has closed the gap (if not ahead) of what their big brother is doing now... Cheers.
ps: i still hope Google did something amazing like what they have in the past. Well, the new digital wellbeing is great.... and thats all.... even the smart alarm from MIUI 10 is amazing. But that's special case for me because I know that theres not a lot of chinese here.

MIUI 10 is utter SH*T.

Wow.
I dont even know where to start...
So i have a RN5, and was pretty excited to know, that MIUI 10 stable global is about to happen.
I'd never really thought this will be the worst MIUI experience ever.
First impressions was that the statusbar looks ugly af. Its bigger, bulkier, more thicker, its just ugly in general. MIUI 9 alredy had a pretty slick design, why on earth do you need to change that.
Some texts HUGE, even if im on the ''xs'' settings under display options...
Next, i came to realize, that the most loved feature (by me) was also gone: if you enable ''silent'' mode, it will NO LONGER MUTE MEDIA. I had to use a Samsung device for a week, and this really struckt me. I was really happy that MIUI have this feature, since its the most obvious thing in the world...
If i enable silenced mode its because I WANT MY DEVICE COMPLETLY SILENT. Not because i dont need ringer, but i dont need any sound. So instead of hitting a toggle button, i now have to press the button, and then select media, and then slide it mute as well.
Alright, lets move on.
Xiaomi said in their EVERY ADVERTISEMENT that it will be better experience on full-screen.
Well, nope.
Apart the new multitask screen, its even less usable.
On MIUI 9, I was able to enable 'force close' applications by enableing 'power+back button'. Since this is also one of my most used feature on MIUI (when i had a Redmi 1s, i used 'longpress back button'), i was a bit sad that in fullscreen mode i cant use this, but i found a way mentioned above, even if it requires two hands, it was managable.
Now they don't even let me to enable that feature. Whats more, there's no alternative. This so called 'better fullscreen exp.' is total bullsh*t.
Lets get to the 'one-handed' mode. There's absolutely no alternative here. You can put that option in quickball, wich is still a must.
But guys.
Dear devs. Do you have any idea about how inconvenient this update is?
I had to used a Samsung A5 (2016), and even on that device i was able to get in one-handed BY SWIPING UP FROM EITHER CORNER.
The list goes on
Cleaner. Oh my god... I have some (50 something) APK file. I CANT DESELECT THE WHOLE GROUP. I have to deselect them ONE BY ONE...
This is just what came to my mind at the moment...
So far the only positive thing about this update is the 60fps option. And nothing else.
I like the new design, but its mostly annoying, what more, infuriating. I'm using MIUI since v5, and I only saw improvement until this point. This is by far the worst upate. Everything about the looks and desing, but fuctions get lost, usability it the worst.
So please mr. developers. If you wanna copy iOS, copy the whole thing. Not just the looks, but the functions as well.
At this point, iPhone X is way more usable than MIUI 10. Heck, even MIUI 9 offers better overall full-screen experience.
What the hell happened?...
Dear devs, shame on you.

Yes I know that's the reason I am using pixel experience 9.0

I've been using MIUI 10 Global Beta ROM since I got my whyred and I can't complain about it.
People are always begging for the Global Stable version, which I can't understand. At least the first 2 or 3 global stable releases are more buggy than Beta.
Beta ROMs are always ahead, with some great experimental features and other well tested and functional ones.
An iPhone X or equivalent provides a much worse user experience. But if you like iOS so much, don't wait for Xiaomi to copy it. Buy an iPhone and have "fun".

That silent mode, you can get the old behaviour by going into setting > sound & notification > silent/dnd mode > silent mode and enable mute sound stream.
For that bigger status bar, i just change the dpi in setting > additional setting > accessibility > display and set it to small which imo is better with this screen display...

What are you talking about boy?

Enable one hand mode and then enable fullscreen gesture...
Change status bar font using display DPI (settings additional settings accessibility display size)
Enable dnd to silence everything
Don't forget this is initial build with version number 10.0.1 and you can expect revs will add more features in future build, patience is the key and just because you didn't like this that doesn't mean MIUI10 is S#t
You are in XDA just flash any custom ROM and get rid of MIUI completely

All the things you listed are called "personal preference". Just because you dont like it, doesnt mean everyone dont like it or that its bad.

u dont like the looks?? ok install custom rom then its simple.
performance battery life camera etc are all good here. no bugs at all.
i dont understand why complain when u have a choice. this is xda man.u can get whole loads of roms out there. u dont like miui then install a custom rom its easy.

I can buy Mi Max 3 or even flagship like Note9 but I see no reason to go to another phone because I have 2 options:
- Masik X 1.1/1.2 + Kirks kernel Oced @2.15GHz
- Many AOSP/PE Oreo or Pie available: most are good enough to use as daily driver
I don't play games, need battery life so RMN5 is very ok for me now

jokerpappu said:
u dont like the looks?? ok install custom rom then its simple.
performance battery life camera etc are all good here. no bugs at all.
i dont understand why complain when u have a choice. this is xda man.u can get whole loads of roms out there. u dont like miui then install a custom rom its easy.
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I literally bought a Xiaomi phone again, because of MIUI. On my previous phones i used to switch ROMs, but MIUI 7 really got me, and im a fan of MIUI ever since. Hence, im really pissed off that they're ruining it.
And to be exact, i really like the looks, except the things that i mentioned above.
But however i hate iOS, the design of the full-screen navigation is far better.

myrul said:
That silent mode, you can get the old behaviour by going into setting > sound & notification > silent/dnd mode > silent mode and enable mute sound stream.
For that bigger status bar, i just change the dpi in setting > additional setting > accessibility > display and set it to small which imo is better with this screen display...
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Thanks for the heads up for the silent mode. Even on MIUI forum, no user ever pointed that out...
But sadly the bigger status bar that im talking about is alredy on smallest settings. Im even using even smaller DPI settings, but it doesnt really help.

LeekGeek said:
What are you talking about boy?
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miguelca said:
I've been using MIUI 10 Global Beta ROM since I got my whyred and I can't complain about it.
People are always begging for the Global Stable version, which I can't understand. At least the first 2 or 3 global stable releases are more buggy than Beta.
Beta ROMs are always ahead, with some great experimental features and other well tested and functional ones.
An iPhone X or equivalent provides a much worse user experience. But if you like iOS so much, don't wait for Xiaomi to copy it. Buy an iPhone and have "fun".
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jokerpappu said:
u dont like the looks?? ok install custom rom then its simple.
performance battery life camera etc are all good here. no bugs at all.
i dont understand why complain when u have a choice. this is xda man.u can get whole loads of roms out there. u dont like miui then install a custom rom its easy.
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tell me its the same...

insetta said:
tell me its the same...
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i dont know what u r talking about with this screenshot gif bt overall the performance battery life stability the things that matters are good so i am good with miui 10 and its just the beginning so it will get better and better

insetta said:
Thanks for the heads up for the silent mode. Even on MIUI forum, no user ever pointed that out...
But sadly the bigger status bar that im talking about is alredy on smallest settings. Im even using even smaller DPI settings, but it doesnt really help.
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What do you expect from the miui forum that ask stable release when miui 10 is still buggy(the early day of miui 10 beta) and keep blamming the dev cause of no new feature/just bug fix after the second public beta release with no suggestion at all (sometime even turn someone down cause of some UI suggestion). I wanna facepalm myself when i read their forum.

I find MIUI 10 very beautiful and promising.

Honor 10 LAG here and there after 9 pie update

Some lag in:
scrolling lost calls and calls (very huge lag)
swipe left notifications
swipe right a menu (note application for example)
graphical glitch when exit from software and hardware battery usage
scrolling app notification menu
Most of them gone with performance mode, but none of these was in 8.1, so I reverted back.
Anyone notice these lags?

Hi,
You are not alone. I had the same problems.
Which I did was disable some Huawei system apps including the launcher after installing Nova launcher and Fluid navigation gestures.
Follow this thread for list of app, but remember to see this one for safety. Disabling apps is much safety than uninstalling them.
After doing that, the lag has been almostly gone. You will come back to Android Oreo style multitasking cards and maybe can not use the ultra power saving mode. And, with an option in Fluid now your fingerprint also works as a home button (you still can use the scan function). I choose the option to run app from lockscreen, it helps hide permanently the navigation bar (before that it takes part of second), however the lockscreen clock will be cut parly at bottom.

duanpv said:
Hi,
You are not alone. I had the same problems.
Which I did was disable some Huawei system apps including the launcher after installing Nova launcher and Fluid navigation gestures.
Follow this thread for list of app, but remember to see this one for safety. Disabling apps is much safety than uninstalling them.
After doing that, the lag has been almostly gone. You will come back to Android Oreo style multitasking cards and maybe can not use the ultra power saving mode. And, with an option in Fluid now your fingerprint also works as a home button (you still can use the scan function). I choose the option to run app from lockscreen, it helps hide permanently the navigation bar (before that it takes part of second), however the lockscreen clock will be cut parly at bottom.
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does disabling stock launcher really reduce lags? I delete some stock apps, but not the launcher since I dont like oreo style, and still got the lags here and there.

cacingbesar said:
does disabling stock launcher really reduce lags? I delete some stock apps, but not the launcher since I dont like oreo style, and still got the lags here and there.
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That what happened in my phone. You can try.

maRRRco89 said:
Some lag in:
scrolling lost calls and calls (very huge lag)
swipe left notifications
swipe right a menu (note application for example)
graphical glitch when exit from software and hardware battery usage
scrolling app notification menu
Most of them gone with performance mode, but none of these was in 8.1, so I reverted back.
Anyone notice these lags?
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can you tell me how you revert back to 8.1? or share link even i need to revert back.

my COL-L29 hasn't unlocked, yet huawei already stopped the support to give the unlock code. found a way to get that but it cost a decent money (since i choose android because i thought IT WAS FREE TO CUSTOMIZE MY OWN PHONE. so far i think only huawei that make this nonsense decision). can i borrow any of your account and the unlock code as well? if anyone could do that i will be very very happy :'')

logitek1994 said:
my COL-L29 hasn't unlocked, yet huawei already stopped the support to give the unlock code. found a way to get that but it cost a decent money (since i choose android because i thought IT WAS FREE TO CUSTOMIZE MY OWN PHONE. so far i think only huawei that make this nonsense decision). can i borrow any of your account and the unlock code as well? if anyone could do that i will be very very happy :'')
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STOP crossposting. You are breaking the rules. The same post on 3 threads. READ THE RULES and try using some common sense when asking others for their account data.

Einwod said:
STOP crossposting. You are breaking the rules. The same post on 3 threads. READ THE RULES and try using some common sense when asking others for their account data.
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oh i'm sorry, if didn't do that my post will get ignored everytime. i thought it was okay to ask anyone for their huawei account, as i will open to others if i could get my own code (yes, seriously). becasue i think huawei account isn't a big deal, google account is

cacingbesar said:
does disabling stock launcher really reduce lags? I delete some stock apps, but not the launcher since I dont like oreo style, and still got the lags here and there.
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I just moved to Nova and disabled the stock launcher and the performance boost is out of the roof! I'm curious what will the impact of this for the battery life.

Rapid81 said:
I just moved to Nova and disabled the stock launcher and the performance boost is out of the roof! I'm curious what will the impact of this for the battery life.
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Can you explain what you mean by "performance boost"? Higher benchmark score? More fluid operations? Or something else?

cacingbesar said:
Can you explain what you mean by "performance boost"? Higher benchmark score? More fluid operations? Or something else?
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Everything is more fluid than before. Applications starts faster and operates faster. Not experienced any lag since the change. Before that, I had a lot. Never ran any benchmark ever, so I cannot say anything about that.

Rapid81 said:
Everything is more fluid than before. Applications starts faster and operates faster. Not experienced any lag since the change. Before that, I had a lot. Never ran any benchmark ever, so I cannot say anything about that.
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If you said higher benchmark score, I will totally skip it. But since you said a more fluid operations, I will disable that stock launcher very soon.... Thanks a lot for your info.
update after disabling stock launcher :
great news for third party launcher, disabling stock launcher will solve the black/empty recent app.
and yes, its a bit more fluid. how much? I dunno....its just a feeling, no benchmark or any other measurement.

Scrolling speed / inertia problem

Hi! I bought this phone because it looked good on paper for 150€, but i cannot live with this scrolling, it's pissing me off and I was wondering if there is a fix.
There was enough inertia only in the settings page in MIUI, other apps, like 9gag were terrible. I need like 2 or 3 scroll to get where I want to, where before I used to need 1.
And I still have my old phone for comparing.
So I tried some ROMs, but it's the same there.
Is there a way to change the settings for touch and inertia for scrolling?
I've seen on youtube and on forums that some other Poco and Xiaomi phones have this issue, but failed to find a solution.

When you scroll apps it stops really fast, no inertia.
But when in settings it has some inertia.
Why is that so and how to make it to run in apps like in settings.
The ROM is stock MIUI, I've tried other but it's the same.

dhalan said:
When you scroll apps it stops really fast, no inertia.
But when in settings it has some inertia.
Why is that so and how to make it to run in apps like in settings.
The ROM is stock MIUI, I've tried other but it's the same.
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Which specific Rom version are you using ?
I recommend that you use Xiaomi.EU custom stable Miui rom

In the video it's the latest 11 Stock ROM beta.
I've tried xiaomi.eu as some other ROMs like LOS, Corvus, Evolution... but nothing helps.
It's so annoying...

I'm bumping this for one more time.
I found this video on youtube.
Anyone have any idea?
Also on reddit...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/ixxamw
No solution...

I remember having problems with horizontal swipes (notifications, changing photos in gallery and so on) on 12.0.3 right after I bought the phone. Now I'm on 12.0.8 and I don' notice it anymore. Either it got fixed or I got used to it. I've 9gag to see if it has that lack of inertia your talking about but no problems here. It works as one would expect it to. Hard to tell what's causing this without being able to replicate it but I would start with Android System WebView.
Go to Settings >Applications>3dot menu in the top right corner>Show all>find Android System WebView>Clear all data>Uninstall updates. Not saying it will fix the problem but there's a good chance it will so give it a go.

Same for me on X4 Pro. Miui 13
Any solution yet? That's really annoying.

Same here on Redmi Note Pro 11 5G. Theres no lag or anyting, only scrolling is slow..
Anyone find solution? Is that MIUI problem or hardware?
My finger hurts now, i must realy move finger fast to be able to go trough pages..
Anyone who tells theres no problem is laying, or never used normal phone..
Im disapointed that none of xiaomi developers cares.. I will try other rom, if nothing helps im going to use old phone..