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Any ROMs in development?

I've been searching high and low and I haven't seen any discussion on any ROMs being build for the Pixel. I know that CM14.1 is currently being developed, but I can't find the Pixel listed.
Are there any mods currently being developed? I would love to read on the progress. Any other information is appreciated.

Moogagot said:
I've been searching high and low and I haven't seen any discussion on any ROMs being build for the Pixel. I know that CM14.1 is currently being developed, but I can't find the Pixel listed.
Are there any mods currently being developed? I would love to read on the progress. Any other information is appreciated.
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What is available is pretty much in the development section Here
You won't likely see many ROMs until TWRP is further along in development. These phones have a different partition setup which is causing a delay while the devs work out how to handle it.

Adding the higher cost of the device and limited supply at launch it will take the devs a little longer to get a device in their hands

troy` said:
You won't likely see many ROMs until TWRP is further along in development. These phones have a different partition setup which is causing a delay while the devs work out how to handle it.
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I was aware of the partition issues. I wasn't aware that TWRP wasn't fully operational yet.
I'll keep my eye out for TWRP news and expect more good news to follow

Developer of Pure Nexus is for sure working on a rom, not sure about others. I do expect it to be a great phone for custom roms?
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cyanogenmod also has pixel device tree and kernel on github, although they haven't rolled it out yet... I've built aosp for pixel, but stock Rom is much better.

milan187 said:
Developer of Pure Nexus is for sure working on a rom, not sure about others. I do expect it to be a great phone for custom roms?
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Maybe the dev will call it Nu Pixel or maybe Gnu Pixel. I would flash that ROM to gain cred of putting a Nu Pixel in my hands..
: only half joking :
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Why is pixel development lagging?

Seems like twrp, rooms etc are not really being developed. Anyone have any ideas on this?
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stackz07 said:
Seems like twrp, rooms etc are not really being developed. Anyone have any ideas on this?
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There are a few and the performance is good.

In terms of price, the pixel is pretty damn expensive compared to other android phones with similar specs. Add to that the fact that, in the USA, at least, it was nearly impossible to get one for the longest time and finally, the way the partitioning is set up is quite different that any previous android phones. All these make for some slow development.

It's expensive plus Google's security features are becoming more problematic. The newest bootloader is causing issues with root now.
The real dev device now is OnePlus not googles product anymore.

stackz07 said:
Seems like twrp, rooms etc are not really being developed. Anyone have any ideas on this?
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Was actually my thinking also...
I came to the conclusion, that nobody has this device, and also google is making it hard to develop for the pixel. Working against the dev community with each update.
I am not worried though, because I only need root for my ARISE sound mod ,and backup/restore via Titanium Backup. I'm running completely stock, because that is the fastest, smoothest, most battery friendly setup I could find. Now that (even with a lot of hacking and manual adjustments) both TWRP and root works somehow, I am enjoying my pixel as it is... All these new things, like slots, loosing the recovery partition etc. make this device terrible for flashing. I was used to flashing my phones without a PC for 6-7 years now. I didn't even had to hook them up to the PC, only once, at first recovery flashing.... This is not the case with the pixel..
Maybe if the new partition layout gets picked up by other manufacturers, the problems will be solved quickly. Or even google drops this nonsense with the new pixels, and then we are really doooooomed

mikeprius said:
It's expensive plus Google's security features are becoming more problematic. The newest bootloader is causing issues with root now.
The real dev device now is OnePlus not googles product anymore.
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Lol...OnePlus are unavailable to release nougat for the OnePlus 2 (SD810+4Gb Ram)

I don't really agree. The development took some time because of all the new features.
We are not really missing any roms, root, twrp or anything I want to be able to do. I see PN, DU, Lineage, OctOS, PixelDust, RR. I mean what other ones you want?
I'll get an OP when they decide to support their devices at least 2 years. They burned enough people with OP2.

milan187 said:
I don't really agree. The development took some time because of all the new features.
We are not really missing any roms, root, twrp or anything I want to be able to do. I see PN, DU, Lineage, OctOS, PixelDust, RR. I mean what other ones you want?
I'll get an OP when they decide to support their devices at least 2 years. They burned enough people with OP2.
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Twrp seems abandoned, and the mix and match instructions for getting things to boot and run with magisk etc just seem odd, that's all. I'm sure everything will be figured out with time, but was just honestly curious.

stackz07 said:
Twrp seems abandoned, and the mix and match instructions for getting things to boot and run with magisk etc just seem odd, that's all. I'm sure everything will be figured out with time, but was just honestly curious.
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Well the developer works on it when he can. It works fine so we do have it. Will need a new one that can sign the boot image.
Magisk isn't officially support it since developer does not have the device.
New boot signing procedure had a fix in a day or two after Google release. That's not bad. Things are not perfect I agree. Multiple slots are making things the hardest I think.
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Probably security more than anything. Don't expect it to pick up anytime soon.

Why is that there is Hardly any content for pixel 2?

When I the I had nexus 5 there used to be loads of content in xda be it roms or mods. Now for the pixel 2 there is no custom rom to begin with. I understand the stock Google oreo is as good as ever but still the basic tweaks would add much more to it.
Is there any specific reason for this? May be Google's security is much complicated in oreo to implement changes in the stock rom?
I was just looking for dual speaker ring, status bar tweaks.

I hope to see more soon as well. Now that Verizon phones are on board for rooting there will probably be more devs getting their hands dirty.
Not to mention there are still only a few phones running Oreo. Right now it's just basically pixel owners. So all the mods made for other phones haven't been ported or upgraded.
I'll have this phone for the next two years I'm hoping there will be more with time.
I haven't even been able to get debian, Ubuntu, or Kali to work along side this phone yet. Proot and chroot don't seem to be working as they should. I tried 3 methods. Linux deploy, termux ,and using the nethunter module. Guess I'll just keep at it until New methods are found.

I assumed the Pixel line would just replace the Nexus line for modders. Sadly, that couldn't be further from the truth for either the Pixel 1 or 2. Which phone(s) have all the devs moved to?

teh_lorax said:
I assumed the Pixel line would just replace the Nexus line for modders. Sadly, that couldn't be further from the truth for either the Pixel 1 or 2. Which phone(s) have all the devs moved to?
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One plus because of the price
Sent from my Google Pixel 2 XL using XDA Labs

Sman999 said:
Is there any specific reason for this? May be Google's security is much complicated in oreo to implement changes in the stock rom?
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The a/b bootloader partitions... No dedicated recovery.... Blah blah blah too much for me to understand but basically it's screwing with devs.

teh_lorax said:
I assumed the Pixel line would just replace the Nexus line for modders. Sadly, that couldn't be further from the truth for either the Pixel 1 or 2. Which phone(s) have all the devs moved to?
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I guess oneplus or Samsung. The later cuz the design is awesome but software experience is poor so if the software is improved it ll be awesome Samsung. ?

I wondered the same thing but then it dawned on me, I only rooted/ROM'd devices to run something that's a vanilla build of Android. That's what this is. There's a few nitpicky things that I would love to have but for the most part, I'm happy with it.

main reason for me is the PRICE.. if it was just priced same as the nexus 5, . thats why oneplus devices are being so favored

teh_lorax said:
I assumed the Pixel line would just replace the Nexus line for modders. Sadly, that couldn't be further from the truth for either the Pixel 1 or 2. Which phone(s) have all the devs moved to?
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pixel devices are no where near as easy to get roms on. Not only is the device tree clustered, but a b partitions, the trend of users demanding security, the expensive price of the device, the changes to the build process, and how Verizon royally made blobs more complicated contributed too.
I have brought up a few device tress before but I definitely had to debug the most for pixel 2. Theres an entire new flashing method and it doesn't help ramdisk is in system now.
Now after all that negativity, I can tell you I know of 4 roms actively working on roms. And two of them booting, including my shameless plug in p2xl forums of ABC Rom working with plenty of mods.
I'd say the good times are on their way, once one rom goes up more will pop up instantly.
Let's hope this helps start the domino effect.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...sp-tamien-8-1-opengapps-t3727948/post75108624

Surge1223 said:
pixel devices are no where near as easy to get roms on. Not only is the device tree clustered, but a b partitions, the trend of users demanding security, the expensive price of the device, the changes to the build process, and how Verizon royally made blobs more complicated contributed too.
I have brought up a few device tress before but I definitely had to debug the most for pixel 2. Theres an entire new flashing method and it doesn't help ramdisk is in system now.
Now after all that negativity, I can tell you I know of 4 roms actively working on roms. And two of them booting, including my shameless plug in p2xl forums of ABC Rom working with plenty of mods.
I'd say the good times are on their way, once one rom goes up more will pop up instantly.
Let's hope this helps start the domino effect.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...sp-tamien-8-1-opengapps-t3727948/post75108624
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Good to know you're busy helping us all with our crack flashing addiction. I can't wait for the goodies to start. Thank you and all the other devs. I've been waiting to unlock my bl because of lack of roms. Is bajasaur still in the game? I haven't really seen him since my note 3 days.

bmwh0r3 said:
Good to know you're busy helping us all with our crack flashing addiction. I can't wait for the goodies to start. Thank you and all the other devs. I've been waiting to unlock my bl because of lack of roms. Is bajasaur still in the game? I haven't really seen him since my note 3 days.
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Ironic you should ask..I helped him come back to the game today you could say lol

Looks like Dirty unicorns incoming...

I was just checking out various customs threads & twitters and saw that DU had added Bonito to its official page as well as a screenshot on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/_DirtyUnicorns_/status/1129623484567621633?s=20
Im really hoping the dev community takes off for these devices like the old nexus days.

Wickidmasshole said:
I was just checking out various customs threads & twitters and saw that DU had added Bonito to its official page as well as a screenshot on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/_DirtyUnicorns_/status/1129623484567621633?s=20
Im really hoping the dev community takes off for these devices like the old nexus days.
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I have mixed feelings. I rooted all 45 different Android phones I owned prior to my last 3 (essential, OnePlus 6, and more pixel 3A). I feel like these days there are way fewer reasons to use custom roms. Base Android has gotten really good, stock roms (for companies like OnePlus and essential) are stable and add lots of useful features, and the good manufacturers are doing updates multiple times a month anyways. We don't see crazy innovation like we did back in old paranoid Android days with projects like Halo and pie controls. And a lot of the real kernel developers like sultanxda moved on to other non-Android projects. It's a shame, but it helped push Google and it's partners into making better software. God knows how many features Google copied from custom roms. Kind of makes you wonder where we'll go from here now that roms are less of a necessity.

Yeah, I was on Android from day one and had been flashing the old windows phone before that. I've stopped installing roms on the last few phones however because I perceive them as worse than the stock software. I came here from a 6T which had a fair few ROMs but none that had the fingerprint sensor working correctly. I want that fingerprint sensor. There are other things but that's the idea, I used to see roms as a proposition where I gave up a few things but gained more than I lost. Now I don't see myself gaining much of anything that I'm not getting with a quick trip into Magisk with everything still working, but I do see things like that lost fingerprint sensor. It's kind of sad to me in a way because it was a bit like a hobby.

xxBrun0xx said:
I have mixed feelings. I rooted all 45 different Android phones I owned prior to my last 3 (essential, OnePlus 6, and more pixel 3A). I feel like these days there are way fewer reasons to use custom roms. Base Android has gotten really good, stock roms (for companies like OnePlus and essential) are stable and add lots of useful features, and the good manufacturers are doing updates multiple times a month anyways. We don't see crazy innovation like we did back in old paranoid Android days with projects like Halo and pie controls. And a lot of the real kernel developers like sultanxda moved on to other non-Android projects. It's a shame, but it helped push Google and it's partners into making better software. God knows how many features Google copied from custom roms. Kind of makes you wonder where we'll go from here now that roms are less of a necessity.
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I agree with you. I haven't rooted my past 4 (6, 6p, pixel xl, pixel 2 xl) probably bc they all ran "pure Google."
I do also have a note 9 att variant and I wanted to root and install custom on that device the 2nd day in.
But to have options is always a good thing. Keep it up devs!!!
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I can't get excited because I tried to figure out what features this rom has that would entice me to get into unlocking/etc and I can't find any sort of place where they actually tell you why you should install their mod. Their website still lists g+, to give an idea of how good their user communication is.

Is there any way I can get hotspot to work without having to use a custom rom

With magisk and Xposed, ROMs just aren't as necessary to me as they used to be, especially now that Google has made a good bit of functionality Pixel-only that isn't always replicated as well in ROMs.
There are still plenty of folks looking forward to them though, so this is definitely good news!

I stopped using custom roms when Marshmallow came out.
But I still use EX for the kernel..
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk

jmcandrews83 said:
Is there any way I can get hotspot to work without having to use a custom rom
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Yes, there's a build prop mod that pretty well known and works on any phone. Unfortunately you need an unlocked bootloader and root so no OTAs and you'll have to keep magisk updated to keep safety net working (it gets updated pretty often)

Heck I dont know why anyone would not want a custom rom. More options and features. Yeah stock has gone far these days but I will always welcome more development.

I can totally understand why people feel there isn't a need for root access or custom ROMs anymore. Stock has certainly improved a lot. I find it useful for a few things, though:
Limiting battery charge to 80% so it prolongs the life of my battery. It's important in a world where you can no longer change batteries with ease.
Swapping my back button on the nav bar to the right side
De-Googling my phone, i.e. installing LineageOS without GApps.

Hold on just a sec, for my part I didn't say anything about root, that's a must have for me. I also didn't say that I don't welcome the development, just that it probably wont be for me. Despite that I'm always glad to see it happen whether it is applicable to my use case or not. I certainly didn't mean to imply or say that ROM development is bad, I apologize if that was the connotation people got from my posts.

krabman said:
Hold on just a sec, for my part I didn't say anything about root, that's a must have for me. I also didn't say that I don't welcome the development, just that it probably wont be for me. Despite that I'm always glad to see it happen whether it is applicable to my use case or not. I certainly didn't mean to imply or say that ROM development is bad, I apologize if that was the connotation people got from my posts.
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Hey, there! If you're replying to me, I'm sorry if I mislsed you. I didn't quote anyone because I was just referring to the general discussion from everyone.

Archangel said:
Heck I dont know why anyone would not want a custom rom. More options and features. Yeah stock has gone far these days but I will always welcome more development.
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Same here bro ...i love more options and features cuz then it feels like i have 3 different phones in 1 lmao
Stock is getting better but still a little boring for me

I just hope this isnt another one of those Pixel XL things where all of the development goes to the XL and nothing comes to the regular Pixel 3a

Looks like they released a release candidate.
http://download.dirtyunicorns.com/?device=bonito

Wickidmasshole said:
I was just checking out various customs threads & twitters and saw that DU had added Bonito to its official page as well as a screenshot on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/_DirtyUnicorns_/status/1129623484567621633?s=20
Im really hoping the dev community takes off for these devices like the old nexus days.
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I would think that would be the case - especially given the massive availability in North America alone. (I had a Galaxy Nexus and ran DU on it starting with Marshmallow and through Nougat - DU on a Pixel 3a XL would be - literally - Old Home Week and a good thing.) The ONLY reason I'm not running DU *now* is that I left the GNex for the Galaxy S7 Snapdragon - and not long after, the GNex croaked - it's now a paperweight.
If anything, the Pixel could be bigger than the Nexus line *ever* got to be - here is why:
1. First off, it can go to any carrier in North America - it's not restricted to Verizon Wireless.
2. Wide retail availablility - online my foot! I don't HATE online - I just prefer retail for things like phones (and that is despite being in the front yard of Amazon HQ2). And that is just the availability end.
3. Sane pricing - even, if not especially, in retail. ($479USD - as I stated before, that is the 3a XL - *half* the price of the S10e.) The S10e is pricier than the Note 9 - which is bad enough; to have the 3a XL undercut the same S10e by that much? Why would - or should- I buy an S10e? (And I don't hate the S10e - before the 3a and 3a XL came along, I was seriously considering the S10e, and I had actually seen it in retail and gotten some hands-on time with one - I haven't been able to do that with the 3a XL yet.)

Archangel said:
I just hope this isnt another one of those Pixel XL things where all of the development goes to the XL and nothing comes to the regular Pixel 3a
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The XL has been Google's AOSP build target with all the Pixels including 3a.

lazycow said:
The XL has been Google's AOSP build target with all the Pixels including 3a.
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So, I should return my 3a and get an XL for the dev support, you think?

jmtjr278 said:
So, I should return my 3a and get an XL for the dev support, you think?
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I suspect the XL will get more support. But I don't know enough about either device to be sure how development will progress.

No signs of P3A development?

Anyone else starting to get concerned that now 40 days into P3a's life, there are no signs of growing development efforts?
ElementalX was all over it very quickly, but I'm starting to get worried that nobody wants to invest time into development for a budget phone, despite it selling off the charts everywhere.
Just curious if anyone else has a perspective to offer.

nickmv said:
Anyone else starting to get concerned that now 40 days into P3a's life, there are no signs of growing development efforts?
ElementalX was all over it very quickly, but I'm starting to get worried that nobody wants to invest time into development for a budget phone, despite it selling off the charts everywhere.
Just curious if anyone else has a perspective to offer.
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My 3a is using stock rom, which I rooted. I love this phone, Bluetooth is crystal clear. I am beginning to wonder why I would need TWRP.

Yeah tbh I would have already expected TWRP to come out for the 3a already, based on the fact that the custom recovery was completed soon after the release of the Pixel 1, 2, and 3. I saw a thread that had a few people working on it, but I still have not heard anything in a while. I know TWRP is eventually going to come, but I guess we've been spoiled with the last 3 releases.
I have seen the thread showing how to install Magisk on the 3a, but it's not an official build yet either...

There's been some development on the 3a. Currently running Dirty Unicorns 13.3 and it's smooth. Besides no TWRP, I don't see why there shouldn't be some ROMs in the works.

John256145 said:
Yeah tbh I would have already expected TWRP to come out for the 3a already, based on the fact that the custom recovery was completed soon after the release of the Pixel 1, 2, and 3. I saw a thread that had a few people working on it, but I still have not heard anything in a while. I know TWRP is eventually going to come, but I guess we've been spoiled with the last 3 releases.
I have seen the thread showing how to install Magisk on the 3a, but it's not an official build yet either...
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It is official.

Heres a photo of TWRP splash if you want hype lmao

You will need TWRP if you run anything special like a Magisk module and something goes wrong and you either have to flash stock again or TWRP and uninstall the module. I really hope we at least get TWRP,,,all the other stuff is gravy.

I though that the flagships Pixels got barely any development because they were too expensive. Apparently not.
So why does the 3a barely have any development, compared to the more expensive OnePlus 7 Pro for example? Is it because Google isn't sending out units to developers? Or is it simply not popular for some reason with the XDA community?

Bidiminished said:
I though that the flagships Pixels got barely any development because they were too expensive. Apparently not.
So why does the 3a barely have any development, compared to the more expensive OnePlus 7 Pro for example? Is it because Google isn't sending out units to developers? Or is it simply not popular for some reason with the XDA community?
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IMO because the stock experience is just that good. What reason does someone have to flash a custom ROM over stock now? It certainly isn't because stock is too slow.

ZVNexus said:
IMO because the stock experience is just that good. What reason does someone have to flash a custom ROM over stock now? It certainly isn't because stock is too slow.
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Very rightly said!! I used to die for flashing pixel experience roms in my redmi note 3, 5 pro, mi a2, s9! In the end i decided lets get the Pixel 3a & kill the urge

Hellrazoraj said:
Very rightly said!! I used to die for flashing pixel experience roms in my redmi note 3, 5 pro, mi a2, s9! In the end i decided lets get the Pixel 3a & kill the urge
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I usually have lineage on any phone ive had. I dont have the urge with this. although id still like the option.

Unstroofy said:
I usually have lineage on any phone ive had. I dont have the urge with this. although id still like the option.
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Understandable, lets wait & see in the Dev side. I guess its an easy walk in the park for devs that they are not working on the device.

Hellrazoraj said:
Unerstandable, lets wait & see in the Dev side. I guess its an easy walk in the park for devs that they are not working on the device.
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Someone is working on lineage for the 3a. I think its gonna be a unified rom with the XL. Twrp is only a matter of time.

Pretty sure TWRP is coming. It would be strange for them to ignore a Pixel

dtb1987 said:
Pretty sure TWRP is coming. It would be strange for them to ignore a Pixel
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They only support what they own. They don't own a P3A. End of story.

How do you know? All we can do is speculate at the moment unless someone has actually heard from someone from TWRP.

ZVNexus said:
They only support what they own. They don't own a P3A. End of story.
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No.

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No.
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Give me a device that they don't own that they support. Sure, there's tons of unofficial device maintainers for TWRP, but I mean actual core members of TWRP that maintain a device that they do not own themselves.

ZVNexus said:
Give me a device that they don't own that they support. Sure, there's tons of unofficial device maintainers for TWRP, but I mean actual core members of TWRP that maintain a device that they do not own themselves.
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TWRP do not own any devices. You need to read their FAQs to have a basic understanding of how it works.
Again, people are working on twrp for the 3a.

Unstroofy said:
No.
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https://twrp.me/faq/howtocompiletwrp.html
He's right
Also, I'm pretty sure he's the one working on twrp...