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Can't successfully hide root with magisk 18.1 for square reader app

I've been rooting my Android phones since about 2012, but today I got a point of sale card reader for my business and I'm not having any luck hiding root from the app (square reader app). The app wont work at all so I tried a number of options in magisk manager (magisk hide the app, hide magisk manager, enable core mode only) rebooting between each try and clearing the square reader app data and setting it up fresh each time, but still no luck
I tried to uninstall magisk but the app still didn't work. So I eventually flashed back to stock and got rid of magisk all together, now the app works but I don't have root...
I tried installing magisk again after I got the app to work and hiding root from the app before I opened it up again, but it still somehow knew the device was rooted
Can anyone suggest anything I haven't tried? Or is there an alternative to rooting the OnePlus 6 (other than magisk) and hiding root? I had a bit of a look around but didn't find anything.
Thanks

I had to go back to 18.0, heard 18.2 works as well.

qbanlinxx said:
I had to go back to 18.0, heard 18.2 works as well.
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Thanks for your reply. I tried with 18.0, damn, it still doesn't work, it still picks up that the phone is rooted
I tried the 18.2 canary build as well (18.2-e72c6685) no luck either
This app must be looking somewhere out of the ordinary for evidence of root in the phone

I have a bank application and facing the same problem. Hope someone can help us to make applications run by hiding the root
I think recent applications are looking for if knox security is tripped !! so in this case Magisk will not help

Ooohhh had to subscribe to this as I face the exact same issue!! Been trying to get my Square reader to work for a while with root and could never figure out how they are detecting root. Using Pixel XL here

Google changed something in Safety Net in play services, it passes, yet for me, google pay fails. That COULD be the issue, though I read 18.2 fixes that. Another option I helped a friend with is if it's detecting magisk itself via the files, culprit here was pokemon go.
Try opening your Magisk settings, the tick "hide magisk manager" clear the repo cache, and rename or delete the MagiskManager folder on the root of your storage. Reboot, clear data from the square app, and try again. Keep in mind, you have to unhide magisk to update it.

Skreelink said:
Google changed something in Safety Net in play services, it passes, yet for me, google pay fails. That COULD be the issue, though I read 18.2 fixes that. Another option I helped a friend with is if it's detecting magisk itself via the files, culprit here was pokemon go.
Try opening your Magisk settings, the tick "hide magisk manager" clear the repo cache, and rename or delete the MagiskManager folder on the root of your storage. Reboot, clear data from the square app, and try again. Keep in mind, you have to unhide magisk to update it.
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In my case, I dont think its detecting the files. The reason i say that is because I play Pokemon Go just fine with no issues. So whatever Square is doing, its something different then what PoGo is doing.

Idledev said:
In my case, I dont think its detecting the files. The reason i say that is because I play Pokemon Go just fine with no issues. So whatever Square is doing, its something different then what PoGo is doing.
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I agree, I have no problem hiding magisk and root from other apps, the square reader app must be somehow different. I've even gone through my storage and deleted any files or folders that might suggest the phone is rooted, but still no luck...
I also went into battery optimization settings to stop magisk from being put to sleep (which might stop magisk hide from working..?), that didn't work either.
I've found a temporary workaround to my problem anyway, I realized that I can share my internet (wifi hotspot) with my ipod touch, this way square reader works as the ipod touch isn't jailbroken or modified. It just means I have to carry around my ipod touch with me, which is a better trade off for me than having a stock, non root phone

Managed to get it working today! Upgraded my Pixel XL to the Android Q beta. By doing this, I had to run Magisk canary build. Installed square, enabled Magisk hide, rebooted and it worked fine! Not sure if the Android Q beta has anything to do with it,but give the canary builds of Magisk a try

Idledev said:
Managed to get it working today! Upgraded my Pixel XL to the Android Q beta. By doing this, I had to run Magisk canary build. Installed square, enabled Magisk hide, rebooted and it worked fine! Not sure if the Android Q beta has anything to do with it,but give the canary builds of Magisk a try
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That's awesome! What canary build did you use?
I tried the latest build a few weeks ago and it didn't work for me

Build 18120

Idledev said:
Build 18120
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No luck for me...
I updated to the latest canary build, cleared all data from square reader app, selected magisk hide, rebooted the device. After it booted up I tried to run it and it still detected root. I have a feeling that the OnePlus OS does something that doesn't totally allow me to hide root from the square reader app. It's annoying because for other apps root can be hidden
Maybe there's something in the Android Q build that lets you hide root better

Something that seems reliable right now on 18.1, Pixel Experience and OOS :
Combine Magisk Hide with Magisk "Core Mode". This seems to do the trick for now, Google Pay is triggered with normal mode, but works in Core Mode. Same for Snapchat and banking apps like N26.
But within this, you can't use any module.
kage00 said:
I also went into battery optimization settings to stop magisk from being put to sleep (which might stop magisk hide from working..?), that didn't work either.
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This is always a good idea, on OOS at least, Magisk being optimized sometimes prevents the granting of root rights to apps, it never reacts to kernel applications requesting root on startup for example.

There's an issue with Googlypay services apparently. You need to downgrade it (remove factory updates) so it's down to version 14.something and then it should work.
You need to disable admin rights and background data to try to prevent autoupdates as well. This thread may be useful?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...e-pay-magisk-discussion-t3906703/post79155616

DaveW1972 said:
There's an issue with Googlypay services apparently. You need to downgrade it (remove factory updates) so it's down to version 14.something and then it should work.
You need to disable admin rights and background data to try to prevent autoupdates as well. This thread may be useful?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...e-pay-magisk-discussion-t3906703/post79155616
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Hmm, I'm running the magisk xXx ROM and google pay is completely debloated/removed. when I get a spare half hour I might try removing the xXx module and flashing back to stock and following the advice in that thread. I'll let you know how it goes

kage00 said:
Hmm, I'm running the magisk xXx ROM and google pay is completely debloated/removed. when I get a spare half hour I might try removing the xXx module and flashing back to stock and following the advice in that thread. I'll let you know how it goes
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Ummm yeah.. then the problem doesn't lie within Google pay it lies within the modifications that you are using.
I have to say I have never had any issues with Google pay or Android pay or any banking app using magisk. I don't even have to hide anyting. Of course I'm also not using any modified ROMs or kernels either

Hi guys,
I have this issue for a couple years now and I just cannot find a solution!
Google Pay, and 4 banking app from two different countries work fine with my 1+6 (stock ROM OOS 9.0.9 with magisk 19.4 - 7.3.4) but Square does not.
Did anyone find a solution?
Magisk config:
Magisk hide
Two modules OOS phone record and youtube
No core mode
All banking app and Square hidden

Adding Xposed to OP7 rooted with Magisk: a good idea, or asking for trouble?

After two years being stuck on an unrooted phone (Huawei), I'm thrilled to have everything working on OP7 x TWRP x Magisk.
On several threads I have read suggestions of Xposed modules that could be interesting, and saw that @topjohnwu published a thread with an Xposed installer apk and Xposed module for Magisk, which sounds amazing.
My question is: on OnePlus, does this work well, or would it be asking for trouble? The last thing I want now that everything is working is to make a wrong move that gets me into boot loops.
Also, if this is confirmed to work well, I see that there are several Xposed modules in the Magisk download section.
Is it "Xposed Framework, v90-beta3 created by rovo89"? Or the Tai Chi one, or the Riru ones?
Thanks for any advice!

Use edxposed, no problems so far for me

My biggest question is with Snapchat. I've read people getting banned because of using Xposed (even if no Snapchat specific module's are used).
Can anyone confirm or deny this? I just want to use it for a couple of modules like Amplify.

Its a bad idea! Snapchat thinks you use 3rd party app... Been locked out 3 times now...

In case this can help someone else, I should let you know that trying to install the "Xposed Framework v90-beta3 by rovo89" from inside Magisk has brought me a lot of heartaches (boot loop, factory reset, still struggling to get a stable system back).
Maybe the problem is not related to that module specifically, but here is what happened. It seemed to install, but when I looked at it in the "Modules" section, every section said "unknown". So I flagged it for deletion, and on reboot the phone entered a boot loop.
I tried to uninstall the module via mm, but it didn't show. So I uninstalled Magisk via Magisk-Uninstall in TWRP. The phone booted, but when I reinstalled Magisk, the boot loop restarted.
Since then, I have done two factory resets: one via the basic TWRP "Wipe", one via OOS / Settings / System. Each time, some files from before are left on the SD card. I thought that the problem was solved, but after two hours working to set up the phone (not downloading Magisk modules, just Apps from the Play Store), I got a new boot loop. Luckily this time I had done a backup. But will be looking for a way to do a more "aggressive" factory reset.
Anyhow, maybe I installed the wrong Xposed, but thought I'd share my experience.

who ah way said:
In case this can help someone else, I should let you know that trying to install the "Xposed Framework v90-beta3 by rovo89" from inside Magisk has brought me a lot of heartaches (boot loop, factory reset, still struggling to get a stable system back).
Maybe the problem is not related to that module specifically, but here is what happened. It seemed to install, but when I looked at it in the "Modules" section, every section said "unknown". So I flagged it for deletion, and on reboot the phone entered a boot loop.
I tried to uninstall the module via mm, but it didn't show. So I uninstalled Magisk via Magisk-Uninstall in TWRP. The phone booted, but when I reinstalled Magisk, the boot loop restarted.
Since then, I have done two factory resets: one via the basic TWRP "Wipe", one via OOS / Settings / System. Each time, some files from before are left on the SD card. I thought that the problem was solved, but after two hours working to set up the phone (not downloading Magisk modules, just Apps from the Play Store), I got a new boot loop. Luckily this time I had done a backup. But will be looking for a way to do a more "aggressive" factory reset.
Anyhow, maybe I installed the wrong Xposed, but thought I'd share my experience.
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That isn't edexposed and isn't supported on pie

Arden144 said:
That isn't edexposed and isn't supported on pie
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Thank you!
Will try edexposed on the next install, after backing up.

Ha, looking in Magisk / Downloads / Search / Xposed, I see two versions of EdXposed:
- Riru - EdXposed v0.4.5.1_beta(4463) (SandHook)
- Riru - EdXposed v0.4.5.1_beta(4463) (YAHFA)
Which one for OP7: SandHook, or YAHFA?
Thanks in advance.

who ah way said:
Ha, looking in Magisk / Downloads / Search / Xposed, I see two versions of EdXposed:
- Riru - EdXposed v0.4.5.1_beta(4463) (SandHook)
- Riru - EdXposed v0.4.5.1_beta(4463) (YAHFA)
Which one for OP7: SandHook, or YAHFA?
Thanks in advance.
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Either. I used YAHFA with no issues for what i needed. Then i tried SandHook out of curiosity and found no difference.

Asking for trouble

Thank you both.
After TWRP backup, installed edexposed which involved three steps:
- riru exexposed core module (in Magisk)
- riru edexposed module by yahfa (Magisk)
- edexposed installer app (from GitHub)
EdXposedInstaller_v2.2.4-release.apk
https://github.com/solohsu/XposedInstaller/releases
System rebooted, SafetyNet status OK in Magisk.
As far as y'all know is this list of modules known to work on OP7?
Wouldn't even know where to start… But curious.

Edit: when I went to do a new Backup, the TWRP menu was unusual (it asked new questions about modifying the system). Decided to backpedal and restore to before exposed installation.
In the end, I just don't know enough to understand what risks I'm taking. In the hands of an expert user, it's probably safe, in mine, it's asking for trouble.

[Question] EdXposed on Android 11 - Pixel 4a

I should be getting the device in a few days and want to install EdXposed ASAP. I have found a few references of folks who did this but it's not clear whether it's on Android 11 or not.
If any one has been able to install EdXposed and get it running, it would be great if they can share the links to the framework and manager they used. And of course, their experience and tips
This would help the community of Pixel 4a users

Here is how I got it working
Obviously you have a rooted device running Android 11, with Magisk installed.
Install EdXposed Manager v4.5.7.
From the canary tab download the YAHFA/ Sandhook drivers (zip) . Note that downloaded version may have a different name from the file name in canary tab, in my case

Which one did you flash? Yahfa or Sandhook?

Neither one of those show up for me. I tried flashing framework and it says incompatible device.

Okluzhion said:
Which one did you flash? Yahfa or Sandhook?
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Sorry for the delay. I didn't get the notification
YAHFA. But note that when I flashed, every thing was fine. In between, probably some Play Store updates broke camera and recorder. Uninstalling updates fixed the problem

"Winbank mobile" Banking app isn't working.

I uninstalled magisk and then tried to run banking app and it didn't.After installing again magisk and enabled magisk hide it didn't run again.So I wiped and flashed other ROM. Installed again magisk but and hide it but again the banking app didn't work. It is also not running without magisk anymore. I don't know what is exactly checking and I can't run it anymore.Someone with any idea? And maybe a method to solve it ?

Most banking / payment apps today detect whether a phone got tampered or not. AFAIK you can't bypass this.

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Most banking / payment apps today detect whether a phone got tampered or not.
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Is there any method to make it work again?This could be a reason to not root and flash custom ROM again.Also I know that this app works to other people with rooted phone

imichalakis said:
Is there any method to make it work again?This could be a reason to not root and flash custom ROM again.Also I know that this app works to other people with rooted phone
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You can't download banking apps when your device is not Play Protect certified. Just restore your stock rom release key fingerprint or use universal safetynet fix by kdragon

imichalakis said:
Also I know that this app works to other people with rooted phone
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Wondering why you don't ask these others how they managed it?

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Wondering why you don't ask these others how they managed it?
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They only did magisk hide to the app. I also installed kdragon universal safety fix but even isnt working. It worked only when i reverted to stock via Odin.Then again rooted and installed custom but it doesnt want to work

ineedroot69 said:
You can't download banking apps when your device is not Play Protect certified. Just restore your stock rom release key fingerprint or use universal safetynet fix by kdragon
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How can I restore to the stock ROM release key fingerprint. When reverted back to stock ROM it worked but how can I from a custom ROM?

imichalakis said:
How can I restore to the stock ROM release key fingerprint. When reverted back to stock ROM it worked but how can I from a custom ROM?
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go-to play store then setting then scroll down bottom and look if it say device is certified or not

ineedroot69 said:
go-to play store then setting then scroll down bottom and look if it say device is certified or not
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It says Device is certified

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It says Device is certified
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then what is your problem?
winbank is detecting magisk?how is isn't working?

It crashes when its loading . It just stops before to show anything.Only the yellow logo when starting.

ineedroot69 said:
then what is your problem?
winbank is detecting magisk?how is isn't working?
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It doesn't detect magisk.The problem starts when I am in custom ROM even before install magisk.

any solution to recommend?

I had problem with Winbank and couldn't launch it. The problem was solved by uninstalling Edxposed Manager apk (No Edxposed or riru which have been flashed via Magisk or any Edxposed module but only Edxposed Manager). I replaced Edxposed Manager with LSPosed which is similarly.

Johnn78 said:
I had problem with Winbank and couldn't launch it. The problem was solved by uninstalling Edxposed Manager apk (No Edxposed or riru which have been flashed via Magisk or any Edxposed module but only Edxposed Manager). I replaced Edxposed Manager with LSPosed which is similarly.
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I didn't even install edxposed manager. The problem was there even before installing magisk.

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I didn't even install edxposed manager. The problem was there even before installing magisk.
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For me, I couldn't load Winbank because it was constantly crashes and after hours of searching I saw that when I unistall Edxposed Manager thne the problem was solved. Yoy may have some similar app which the programmer consider this as danger for winbank and for this reason it is crashed. Try to unistall one by one app to see if it would be fixed. If it is due to some app then it would be some app which has "hack" activities like magisk, luckypatcher, ed xposed etc...

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I had problem with Winbank and couldn't launch it. The problem was solved by uninstalling Edxposed Manager apk (No Edxposed or riru which have been flashed via Magisk or any Edxposed module but only Edxposed Manager). I replaced Edxposed Manager with LSPosed which is similarly.
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I have been puzzled with this for a week and you solved my problem. Everything was working (gpay, spay through watch, other banking apps etc) except the !$%&*ng Winbank. I had never heard of LSPosed, but I followed your advice, and now is working pefrectly! Well done!!! Thanks
Εισε μεγαλος!!!

christis said:
I have been puzzled with this for a week and you solved my problem. Everything was working (gpay, spay through watch, other banking apps etc) except the !$%&*ng Winbank. I had never heard of LSPosed, but I followed your advice, and now is working pefrectly! Well done!!! Thanks
Εισε μεγαλος!!!
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if you installed EdXposed the first thing you must do is add "Google Play Service" on EdXposed blacklist so apps don't detect EdXposed ... thou it's great to hear that LSposed works for you

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if you installed EdXposed the first thing you must do is add "Google Play Service" on EdXposed blacklist so apps don't detect EdXposed ... thou it's great to hear that LSposed works for you
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The Edxposed blacklist hides the modules
christis said:
I have been puzzled with this for a week and you solved my problem. Everything was working (gpay, spay through watch, other banking apps etc) except the !$%&*ng Winbank. I had never heard of LSPosed, but I followed your advice, and now is working pefrectly! Well done!!! Thanks
Εισε μεγαλος!!!
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Hi again. I found and another solution. Because I wanted to keep the Edxposed instead to have the LSPosed (neither I know about LSPosed and I learnt it at this time when I was trying to find the solution) and I installed Sudohide with which you can hide some app to be invisible from some other app and I selected Edxposed to not be visible from Winbank and now works properly the Edxposed and Winbank simultaneously.

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The Edxposed blacklist hides the modules
Hi again. I found and another solution. Because I wanted to keep the Edxposed instead to have the LSPosed (neither I know about LSPosed and I learnt it at this time when I was trying to find the solution) and I installed Sudohide with which you can hide some app to be invisible from some other app and I selected Edxposed to not be visible from Winbank and now works properly the Edxposed and Winbank simultaneously.
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Trying to hide root from Play Store but can't install modules in Magisk now

I've managed to hide root from the apps themselves by installing the Universal SafetyNet Fix and enabling Zygisk (Beta) and Enforce DenyList and adding the apps to the DenyList and I can use all the apps but now Play Store won't let me update Netflix or Revolut, as it says they're no longer compatible with my device.
I've now hidden the Magisk app, which hasn't helped, and I'm trying to install the Shamiko module from Telegram but if I choose "Normal Android Way" Magisk just closes and if I choose "File Way" it says "Unzip error". This isn't specific to the Shamiko zip though, it happens if I try to reinstall the Universal SafetyNet Fix zip.
I'm using the latest Magisk v24.1, although I notice that on the Home screen it says "Zygisk: No" even though it's enabled. The only other modules installed are Busybox, Call Recorder and Systemless Hosts.
EDIT: Nevermind. I found that this only happens when trying to install using ES File Explorer. If I use the default File Manager it works OK.
EDIT2: So I followed the steps here, from "Setup Fingerprint", setting it to Poco X3 NFC Global - Android 11, and cleared the data&cache for Play Store and Play Services and rebooted, and now the Play Store doesn't even show Netflix or Revolut, either in the list of installed apps or when I search for them. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-11-lineageos-official-surya-karna.4202533/post-84100067
EDIT3: I disabled "Enforce DenyList" and enabled the Shamiko (v0.4.3) module instead and rebooted and cleared the Play Store and Play Services cache again and now I'm back to where I was before, with Netflix and Revolut showing in the installed apps list (but not when I search for them) and unable to update as it says they're no longer compatible with my device.
EDIT4: Updated Universal SafetyNet Fix to v2.2.1 and used adb props to Force Basic Key attestation to surya (default value, was M200....). No change. Checking Safety Net with Root Checker says it fails.

Magisk 24.1, enabled Zygisk, enabled DenyList, added all Google apps to the DenyList. Renamed the Magisk package name.
Flashed kdrag0n's Universal SafetyNet fix, installed MagiskHide Props, enabled the surya fingerprint and forced basic attestation. All on LineageOS 18.1. Works fine, no issues so far. Didn't even need to clear data or cache for any apps, just rebooted the phone.

robogo1982 said:
Magisk 24.1, enabled Zygisk, enabled DenyList, added all Google apps to the DenyList. Renamed the Magisk package name.
Flashed kdrag0n's Universal SafetyNet fix, installed MagiskHide Props, enabled the surya fingerprint and forced basic attestation. All on LineageOS 18.1. Works fine, no issues so far. Didn't even need to clear data or cache for any apps, just rebooted the phone.
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I'm using MIUI but I've literally done all of that and I still can't update Netflix or Revolut.
As explained by Lughnasadh here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/magisk-module-universal-safetynet-fix-1-1-0.4217823/post-86463103 we can't actually add Google Play Services to the DenyList, as doing so breaks USNF and it unticks automatically on reboot anyway. So I think all we can add to the list is Google Play Store.

doveman said:
I'm using MIUI but I've literally done all of that and I still can't update Netflix or Revolut.
As explained by Lughnasadh here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/magisk-module-universal-safetynet-fix-1-1-0.4217823/post-86463103 we can't actually add Google Play Services to the DenyList, as doing so breaks USNF and it unticks automatically on reboot anyway. So I think all we can add to the list is Google Play Store.
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Why don't you guys simply stick to Magisk 23.0? Everything works fore with that version of Magisk

Noter2017 said:
Why don't you guys simply stick to Magisk 23.0? Everything works fore with that version of Magisk
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I seem to have fixed this now by changing the device fingerprint from POCO X3 NFC Global to POCO X3 NFC Europe.

I have issues after the playstore updates. I can delete all data and at old version device is certified. But it updates itself and it's problem then on. Anyway to stop the playstore self update?

You could try Magisk's Detach module -- online repo is deprecated, but it is still around if you search for it...

I've had same issue about Revolut, I think Nerflix uses similar spies. but telling story short: I downloaded Revolut from ApkPure and cheched it on DenyList, reboot aaaaasaaaaaand it's all done, Revolut is getting updates and works as usuaully