If moto G3 has nexus 6 camera sensor, and n6 sensor is capable of 4k/30fps video.... possible to 'unlock' 4k in G?
that is most likely limited by the SOC. i think the 410 can only handle processing up to 1080p video. so while a 13MP sensor has enough pixel density to capture a 4k image, the phone can't process a video at 30+ fps.
So how does it work exactly on this phone? I've heard that during 1080p 30fps it uses OIS, but anything above that doesn't use any kind of stabilization. Also anyone got news, if there is going to be firmware update addressing that, how hard can it be to enable OIS on 4k videos if it's already there, just not being used? Thanks
it has only AIS not OIS while recording. notice that it is doing crop in 1080p 30fps
g_oral said:
it has only AIS not OIS while recording. notice that it is doing crop in 1080p 30fps
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But OIS is still part of the RGB camera sensor right ? Why won't they use it then ?
Dont know, i think they use it only for photos. Maybe the CPU is not so good and cant handle ois in videos
It doea not habe ois on photos or videos. You can look with a flashlight and you will notice that the sensor is not moving ...
Do any phones exist that can shoot true 4k video (3840 × 2160) from their front camera? even flagships such as the Samsung Galaxy S9+ seem to only shoot at 1440p for the front camera.
I don't think so
So I got my Xiaomi mi 10 ultra and I love it.
But what I don't understand is that sensor under the telephoto 5x lens.
It is an Sony IMX586 which is a pretty decent Sensor. I am happy with the picture quality so far.
But video.. something weird is going on here:
In xiaomis camera App i was not able to make 4k or 1080p 60 fps videos with the 5x tele.. the smaller, not as good sensor of the ultra wide (12mp got no more specific info) is capable of 1080p60.
The IMX586 is a good sensor. Other phones are using 4k 60fps with it. Even a new Drone got the sensor and is capable of 4k90fps.
Why is xiaomi not letting me film in 60fps 4k or 1080p?
Is there a way to get this work in gcam or ultracvm?
I always used Gcam for photography and videos because it enhances photos and stabilize videos but the most important feature for me was recording 4K videos at 60 fps, originally the MIUI cam can't record at that fps but somehow
Gor the Gcam it's possible. Today i just switched to a custom ROM wich is Corvus OS, i installed Gcam but i was surprised it can't record at 60 fps cuz it's showing error.
It's 89% something related to software a.k.a the custom rom, becs when i switch to the stock rom, the [email protected] is working perfectly.
Anyone has an idea about this, is it possible to enable 4K @60fps without switching to Stock ROM ?
Adameur said:
I always used Gcam for photography and videos because it enhances photos and stabilize videos but the most important feature for me was recording 4K videos at 60 fps, originally the MIUI cam can't record at that fps but somehow
Gor the Gcam it's possible. Today i just switched to a custom ROM wich is Corvus OS, i installed Gcam but i was surprised it can't record at 60 fps cuz it's showing error.
It's 89% something related to software a.k.a the custom rom, becs when i switch to the stock rom, the [email protected] is working perfectly.
Anyone has an idea about this, is it possible to enable 4K @60fps without switching to Stock ROM ?
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It's because of sensor, not software. IMX 682 sensor supports maximum 4K 30fps & it's slightly worse version than IMX 686 sensor which supports 4K 60fps.
That means that it's hardware issue, not software.
SkaboXD said:
It's because of sensor, not software. IMX 682 sensor supports maximum 4K 30fps & it's slightly worse version than IMX 686 sensor which supports 4K 60fps.
That means that it's hardware issue, not software.
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So how tf i was able to record at 60fps on 4K when I was on MIUI ?
And i even did a fps meter test ro check and it was between 58_59 fps
SkaboXD said:
It's because of sensor, not software. IMX 682 sensor supports maximum 4K 30fps & it's slightly worse version than IMX 686 sensor which supports 4K 60fps.
That means that it's hardware issue, not software.
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Thats weird, that was what i thought until i saw these phones specs.
Realme GT
Realme X7 Max
ZTE Axon 30
Xiaomi Mi 10T
All say they use the IMX 682 and all support 4K/60
So what is going on here? Is it the sensor? Is it the soc? Is it just marketing? Did some manage to overcome the harware limitations?
Assuming the sony specs are true. The only thing i can think of is :
a) If imx682 its capable for 1080p /120 then theoretically it could record 2k/60? and then use an upscale trick or something?
b) Using a trick in realtime or in post-process to convert 30 to 60fps with a fast soc (MEMC style)
(i don't know if or how how pixel binning can be applied in video recording so i'm leaving this out)
I have so many questions
EDIT: there is a discussion about the IMX582/586 here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4k-60fps-with-gcam.4265067/
psychorat said:
Thats weird, that was what i thought until i saw these phones specs.
Realme GT
Realme X7 Max
ZTE Axon 30
Xiaomi Mi 10T
All say they use the IMX 682 and all support 4K/60
So what is going on here? Is it the sensor? Is it the soc? Is it just marketing? Did some manage to overcome the harware limitations?
Assuming the sony specs are true. The only thing i can think of is :
a) If imx682 its capable for 1080p /120 then theoretically it could record 2k/60? and then use an upscale trick or something?
b) Using a trick in realtime or in post-process to convert 30 to 60fps with a fast soc (MEMC style)
(i don't know if or how how pixel binning can be applied in video recording so i'm leaving this out)
I have so many questions
EDIT: there is a discussion about the IMX582/586 here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4k-60fps-with-gcam.4265067/
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4K and 60 FPS works in GCam in Custom ROMs.
ArrowOS 20210601, Aspen GCam 8.1.200
Noter2017 said:
4K and 60 FPS works in GCam in Custom ROMs.
ArrowOS 20210601, Aspen GCam 8.1.200
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Have you verified with MediaInfo that it's 60fps? Because I can select that too but it still outputs 4k 30fps.
psychorat said:
Thats weird, that was what i thought until i saw these phones specs.
Realme GT
Realme X7 Max
ZTE Axon 30
Xiaomi Mi 10T
All say they use the IMX 682 and all support 4K/60
So what is going on here? Is it the sensor? Is it the soc? Is it just marketing? Did some manage to overcome the harware limitations?
Assuming the sony specs are true. The only thing i can think of is :
a) If imx682 its capable for 1080p /120 then theoretically it could record 2k/60? and then use an upscale trick or something?
b) Using a trick in realtime or in post-process to convert 30 to 60fps with a fast soc (MEMC style)
(i don't know if or how how pixel binning can be applied in video recording so i'm leaving this out)
I have so many questions
EDIT: there is a discussion about the IMX582/586 here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4k-60fps-with-gcam.4265067/
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In the time of the posting I thought like that, but still, POCO F3 with IMX582 can record 4k 60fps with Gcam, but it has some micro stuttering. Which also could mean that sensor is not fully capable of it. It can be the same case here.
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Have you verified with MediaInfo that it's 60fps? Because I can select that too but it still outputs 4k 30fps.
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You are absolutely right, sorry.
Recording doesn't start when I select 4K and 60 FPS
SkaboXD said:
In the time of the posting I thought like that, but still, POCO F3 with IMX582 can record 4k 60fps, but it has some micro stuttering. Which also could mean that sensor is not fully capable of it. It can be the same case here.
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So i guess it kinda works if your SOC is able to handle 4k60
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So i guess it kinda works if your SOC is able to handle 4k60
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S870 can handle it, so it's not because of that. Camera sensor probably misses the buffer power to deliver 100% smooth 4k 60fps. But it's better still than 30fps.
SkaboXD said:
S870 can handle it, so it's not because of that. Camera sensor probably misses the buffer power to deliver 100% smooth 4k 60fps. But it's better still than 30fps.
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Yes i mean it works with some dropped frames but you also need a SOC that can do it. I have seen that Poco X3 Pro can do it but on Poco X3 with 732G it seems a no go because of the SOC limitation.
Sorry for my bad English.