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Debloater is only finding two services to disable in Nougat.

Decided to run Debloater after upgrading to Nougat last night. Surprised to see that it only finds two packages to hide.
BeamService.apk
Velvet.apk
Any thoughts about this. I know there are other Samsung specific disabling apps but i also have liked Debloater. As far as i can tell, theres no update for the program.

I recall reading a post (I can't find the link, it was when I was looking up how to use GatesJunior debloater on the Nougat beta) that mentioned that a certain aspect of ADB that this debloater utilized was locked/removed (I'm fairly positive the wording I'm using is wrong). That being the case, the debloater no longer works with Nougat.
I'd recommend using the Package Disabler. I have the premium version and it still works just fine.

Debloat manually using ADB:
Code:
adb shell
pm hide com.package.name
pm hide com.package.name2
...

alarsama said:
I recall reading a post (I can't find the link, it was when I was looking up how to use GatesJunior debloater on the Nougat beta) that mentioned that a certain aspect of ADB that this debloater utilized was locked/removed (I'm fairly positive the wording I'm using is wrong). That being the case, the debloater no longer works with Nougat.
I'd recommend using the Package Disabler. I have the premium version and it still works just fine.
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BK Package Disabler? I have the paid version but license wont activate on Nougat update.

macasus76 said:
BK Package Disabler? I have the paid version but license wont activate on Nougat update.
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Yeah, quite a few people have suggested that Samsung just killed ALL those Package Disabler apps by updating something in their KNOX Security Suite (those apps used a hole in the KNOX suite to work.) Apparently incensed Note7 users who desperately cling onto the devices disabled the Samsung software bits through Package Disablers and Debloater, and disabling the software bits that forced that 60% battery charge limit and showed the recall warning.
Here are some threads of folks using Package Disabler Pro to disable that charging limit...
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note-Phones/Note-7-PSA-Avoid-60-battery-cap/td-p/43369
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote7/comments/59rj7h/dont_update_package_disabler_pro/

There's a new tool that exploits Android's built-in work mode to clone and then freeze apps without root. Beware, it is highly experimental. Enjoy!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/closed-beta-test-incoming-companion-app-t3366295

General banter about multiple "installs"

I don't have any problems or require any help, just sharing some stuff
I got sick of playing cat-and-mouse with Google regards Google pay, and I've tried them all:
Downgrade play services
SQL Fix
Magisk modules
Deny telephony permissions etc etc....
I decided to test something and ended up with:
A TWRP backup of my fully magisk-rooted, formerly daily driver in all its rooted glory (I use stuff like drivedroid often which requires root)
And also:
A stock install of G930FOXA6ESGD_BTU, debloated with the aroma debloater and my own list of non-required stuff removed via ADB > shell <package manager>
I've also ADB'd the "skip tracks with volume buttons" app and greenify commands to use them without root in this Stock ROM.
Banking and GPay confirmed working.
So I am now using this as my daily driver, and boot into my rooted rom when I need to use drivedroid or other root-based goodies.
Enable OEM Unlock is enabled in both Rooted and Stock, and I swap between them as required via TWRP.
Sure, root is nice to have, I get that, but do you need it? if you can set up the Stock install to be as close to rooted as you can get by with, would you use this as a "solution" to constantly battling Gpay?
Thoughts, comments or suggestions welcome

Does it pass mastercard validations?

I don't have any Mastercards so I can't test that for you, sorry. If you test it, would you please report back just so people have the information? Thanks

This app is the BANE of my existence!

Hello fellow android users, just got a new phone today! I went ahead and rooted it and whatnot got it all customized to my likings. Went to remove some pesky bloatware but ran in the notorious MyMetro App. I cannot remove this app. Ive tried every method i know of. ADB shell gives me "Failure [not installed for 0]". System app remove gives me "failure". Titanium backup gives me "cannot locate APK". I tried manually removing the apk through a root file browser and the apk is INVINCIBLE. Is there some other method i could use? Never in my life have i ran into bloatware i could not uninstall. tips?

CorporalCactus said:
Hello fellow android users, just got a new phone today! I went ahead and rooted it and whatnot got it all customized to my likings. Went to remove some pesky bloatware but ran in the notorious MyMetro App. I cannot remove this app. Ive tried every method i know of. ADB shell gives me "Failure [not installed for 0]". System app remove gives me "failure". Titanium backup gives me "cannot locate APK". I tried manually removing the apk through a root file browser and the apk is INVINCIBLE. Is there some other method i could use? Never in my life have i ran into bloatware i could not uninstall. tips?
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There is a debloater module for Magisk:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-terminal-debloater-debloat-t3584163

johnjingle said:
There is a debloater module for Magisk:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-terminal-debloater-debloat-t3584163
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yep i used it, this one app in particular is still there even after a reboot

CorporalCactus said:
yep i used it, this one app in particular is still there even after a reboot
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That's weird. Maybe, download and flash a retail firmware from lolinet which wouldn't include that app?

Question Can't remove system apps

I'm trying to run vanced YouTube on my pixel 7 Pro. Vanced manager manager still working on my op9pro...but I need to delete all remnants of the stock YouTube app from my device.
I'm unlocked and rooted. Titanium backup shows the error "can't locate APK". I'm trying to do it manually with root explorer. The YouTube and YouTube music APKs are located in /product/app/YouTube. I cannot delete these files and root explorer won't allow me to change the permissions of these folders. I also tried adb but that just hides them, I need to remove any and all files associated with the stock YouTube system app.
Anyone have any ideas? I'm not looking to hide these apps, I'm looking to permanently remove them from the phone.

Pain-N-Panic said:
I'm trying to run vanced YouTube on my pixel 7 Pro. Vanced manager manager still working on my op9pro...but I need to delete all remnants of the stock YouTube app from my device.
I'm unlocked and rooted. Titanium backup shows the error "can't locate APK". I'm trying to do it manually with root explorer. The YouTube and YouTube music APKs are located in /product/app/YouTube. I cannot delete these files and root explorer won't allow me to change the permissions of these folders. I also tried adb but that just hides them, I need to remove any and all files associated with the stock YouTube system app.
Anyone have any ideas? I'm not looking to hide these apps, I'm looking to permanently remove them from the phone.
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[SOLVED] Revanced working?
Did anyone try installing revanced manager on the P7P? Get it working? I installed the manager and it doesn't seem to see when I patch the youtube apk. It goes through the process of patching the youtube apk. I installed using non-root methods...
forum.xda-developers.com

@rester555, @EtherealRemnant, and some others got it working well enough....and I don't think they had to go through the trouble of deleting "all remnants" of the stock app. You might be used to a bit of an outdated method or particular to your previous device method because I believe it's been a long time since you had to remove the stock app to get it to work -- at the very least on my Pixel 5 A11 rooted, I used Vanced manager and it would merely overwrite/replace my stock app; I just had to make sure to turn off auto-update as Google would insist on re-installing/updating it back to stock...
In any case, the thread below is where a bunch of them got it to work well enough on the P7P (without the need to remove the stock app, i believe)
[SOLVED] Revanced working?
Did anyone try installing revanced manager on the P7P? Get it working? I installed the manager and it doesn't seem to see when I patch the youtube apk. It goes through the process of patching the youtube apk. I installed using non-root methods...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Sorry for re-iterating what netgar posted. He got his post in before while I was still drafting mine...

Just disable the app. You can do it natively. Go like you're going to uninstall the app and you'll see disable.

I did disable it. Only problem now is I can't install an older YouTube APK from APK mirror in order to patch it with revanced lol. Phone is giving me an error when I try to install an older version of YouTube.

Pain-N-Panic said:
I did disable it. Only problem now is I can't install an older YouTube APK from APK mirror in order to patch it with revanced lol. Phone is giving me an error when I try to install an older version of YouTube.
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I literally installed ReVanced yesterday. All I did was disable YouTube, build with ReVanced Builder, install micro G, and install the patched APK.

EtherealRemnant said:
I literally installed ReVanced yesterday. All I did was disable YouTube, build with ReVanced Builder, install micro G, and install the patched APK.
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I'm not using revanced builder. I'm trying to use the manager app on my phone. Maybe I'll try the builder instead

EtherealRemnant said:
I literally installed ReVanced yesterday. All I did was disable YouTube, build with ReVanced Builder, install micro G, and install the patched APK.
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Pain-N-Panic said:
I'm not using revanced builder. I'm trying to use the manager app on my phone. Maybe I'll try the builder instead
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I'm not familiar with using the builder, but I saw EtherealRemnant have success with it, so that's why I @'d him. Glad he/it helped!

I got it working. Although I'm rooted, I had to use the non root method with microg in order to get it working

Even though I got it working, I'm still kind of pissed I can't delete certain system apps off my device. Huge reasoning for rooting in the first place is to have ultimate control over my device. Can anyone shed some light on why I can't remove certain system apps or provide a working method to do so?

Just did the "Install as root" option and it installed just fine. I did uninstall all updates followed by installing apk of recommended version with no issues on my end

Pain-N-Panic said:
Even though I got it working, I'm still kind of pissed I can't delete certain system apps off my device. Huge reasoning for rooting in the first place is to have ultimate control over my device. Can anyone shed some light on why I can't remove certain system apps or provide a working method to do so?
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Root these days is systemless. The best you can do is disable apps or uninstall them from your user profile with adb.

Pain-N-Panic said:
Even though I got it working, I'm still kind of pissed I can't delete certain system apps off my device. Huge reasoning for rooting in the first place is to have ultimate control over my device. Can anyone shed some light on why I can't remove certain system apps or provide a working method to do so?
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Have you tried uninstalling via ADB

Pain-N-Panic said:
Even though I got it working, I'm still kind of pissed I can't delete certain system apps off my device. Huge reasoning for rooting in the first place is to have ultimate control over my device. Can anyone shed some light on why I can't remove certain system apps or provide a working method to do so?
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EtherealRemnant said:
Root these days is systemless. The best you can do is disable apps or uninstall them from your user profile with adb.
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i know it's old and EOL, but can't Titanium Backup "freeze" system apps? It's been a while (years), so I'm working off of memory and just basing it off of what I kinda remember and can't be too sure...

Open a Command Terminal, grant root access by typing "su"
This command works for me to delete system apps (youtube for example):
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.youtube
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.google.android.apps.youtube.music

Have you tried that one?
[MODULE][Terminal] Debloater v17.3.2 - Debloat Systemlessly!
[TERMINAL] DEBLOATER Debloat your phone Systemlessly! Debloating can sometimes be device specific. OEM apps can sometimes be a trash to a user but not to the other. So I decided to make a module to Customize the uninstallation of a system app...
forum.xda-developers.com

netgar said:
Have you tried that one?
[MODULE][Terminal] Debloater v17.3.2 - Debloat Systemlessly!
[TERMINAL] DEBLOATER Debloat your phone Systemlessly! Debloating can sometimes be device specific. OEM apps can sometimes be a trash to a user but not to the other. So I decided to make a module to Customize the uninstallation of a system app...
forum.xda-developers.com
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I'll look into it, thank youv

simplepinoi177 said:
i know it's old and EOL, but can't Titanium Backup "freeze" system apps? It's been a while (years), so I'm working off of memory and just basing it off of what I kinda remember and can't be too sure...
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I don't know if it works on A13 but that's what I used to use on my OP9 to freeze apps, yeah.

EtherealRemnant said:
I don't know if it works on A13 but that's what I used to use on my OP9 to freeze apps, yeah.
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TiBu still works. I'm using it currently. Does a fine job of disabling or freezing system apps as needed.

Question I want try to unroot my pixel 7 pro but...

Hi, I use root in all my devices from a lot of time but now I'm 41yo and no more interested in this.
I use root "now only" for
1) call recording (BCR);
2) SwifthBackup;
3) Revanced.
So, call recorder seems to be installed also without root: just put apk in system app directory!
... but, how I can move an apk in system directory without root or twrp, and with locked bootloader?
SwifthBackup can work without root? I don't remember but I can search.
Revanced isn't a problem, I can use with microG.
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Any help about my doubts?
I want try also because VPN not work, and after a months of email with support "seems" can be related to unlocked/rooted device.
I want just try.
Ty.

Without root, Swift Backup can backup app APK files, but not the app data. It does allow you to grant adb permissions through Shizuku, but I never figured out what [if anything] that allows it to do. I wasn't able to backup app data with ADB privelages.
I don't know the answer to the Call Recording issue.

lupastro82 said:
Hi, I use root in all my devices from a lot of time but now I'm 41yo and no more interested in this.
I use root "now only" for
1) call recording (BCR);
2) SwifthBackup;
3) Revanced.
So, call recorder seems to be installed also without root: just put apk in system app directory!
... but, how I can move an apk in system directory without root or twrp, and with locked bootloader?
SwifthBackup can work without root? I don't remember but I can search.
Revanced isn't a problem, I can use with microG.
----
Any help about my doubts?
I want try also because VPN not work, and after a months of email with support "seems" can be related to unlocked/rooted device.
I want just try.
Ty.
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I imagine that, once you move that .apk to the system app directory (while rooted), once you unroot, it should still stay there and probably be accessible; but I'm unsure whether successfully running it will be possible -- it depends on the call recording app and if the app requires root to run. If it doesn't and it simply needs root just to be inserted, then I imagine it would probably work if you unroot.
But I have never heard of this method of getting a mod or add-on to work by inserting it in the system app directory...it's fascinating...
Like you said, ReVanced doesn't necessarily need root to work; it just works better with it. Swift Backup will only in a basic way be able to back your device up without root access.
But if you are simply just trying to get a certain VPN to work -- and in the end you don't want to lose root -- you could try doing the numerous root-hiding methods. There are many games, banking apps, and streaming apps that won't work with root (without even giving you a warning that it's because of root detection sometimes) that, once you hide root successfully, are able to run it. It sounds like that could possibly be the case for your VPN.
There are these you can try (if you haven't yet); Zygisk Deny List, UniversalSafetyNetFix (Displax mod works best with P7P), Shamiko, HideMyApp, Magisk Delta, etc.
Also, please be aware (or reminded if you know already) that while unrooting will not wipe and reset your device, locking your bootloader requires wiping the device and you losing everything! You'll be able to get some stuff restored through Google One Backup/Sync, but most everything will need to be set back up and/or lost. And if all you are seeking is to get a VPN to work, I really highly doubt that the app/service goes so far as to detect if you have an unlocked bootloader; it seems there are some banking apps that go that far, but most apps out there don't go that far, and hearing a VPN does would be a first...
Good luck!

Just Google VPN. Do not work anymore from about two months and seems can be a root/unlocked issue.
Anyway, u're right. Ty so much.