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[Completed] [Q] S8500: Lollipop 5.0 or 5.0.2 or Omni 5.1 - your experiences

Hi everybody,
currently I am using Android 4 (OMNI) on my Wave S8500 next to Bada (still using Bada sometimes since I ve got the livelong version of Route66).
I appriaciate the possibility to have both OS installed and ready for usage in parallal but I appreciate even more the usage of Android OS from SD card instead of internal memory since it is way faster!
Unfortunately the accu capacity when running on Android is only 1 to 2 days while compared with Bada 2.0 and similar usage pattern it lasts one entire week! (What a pitty that samsung did not take any benefit from having such a promising OS together with such a volume of devices sold mobiles, TVs, tablets whatever.)
In addition I've random freezes quite unreproducable which makes using Android quite unreliable. But all in all I am quite satisfied and really deeply grateful that Android for my wave even exists! I need to use it above all for calendar synchronisation (and also whatsapp meanwhile).
No I came across the possibilities of having version 5 of android to be used on S8500. But I could not find any suitable answers which version to go?
The one described here in (dev-thread) seems to be still in some early stages. Something similar seems to be the case for this version while non-working parts are partly mentioned.
I also found this description but without any additional information!
Does anybody have any hint or idead or suggestion for which version to go or whether number 5 is still not mature enough to be used as daily standard?
What are your experiences or suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
Bye

Hm, seems the upgrade/update links are all just for surveys! What a !xO%...

Hi,
You've provided me all links that you need, so asking your questions in that thread is the best solution for receive an relevant answer.
XDA Assist is here to help members navigate the site, not support. And you've navigated it already.
Good luck!

Android Build fragmentation - is it a real problem ?

Hi,
I own a honor 7 mobile. In the last few days that I have bought, used and read about it, I have found that there seems to be multiple different build versions of the same Honor 7, all distributed by Huawei. EU has a different build version, Chinese have a different, albeit the most functional version and then some more. All this under the same EMUI 3.1 that is there everywhere.
So, while EU users get a Pro camera mode in B140 version of the build, international build version B160 does not have it. So on and so forth for many other features.
This is not just limited to removing or deprecating a few features like call recording where laws demand it (all EU phones don't have call recording), but seems to be an intentional system wide change.
I was soliciting your opinions to see if this sort of "build" fragmentation is prevelant across all android manufacturers (like HTC, Samsung, Sony etc.) or is this something endemic to Chinese manufacturers or may be just Huawei
Thanks,

Development of a ROM Android pie for the Huawei Y5 2018 or DRA-LX3

Who can develop an Android ROM 9.0 pie for the Huawei Y5 2018 or DRA-LX3 version of 1GB of RAM and 16 storage which comes with Android Go edition which I find very limited to my liking

i would love if someone make a custom rom for this device, i just got one as secondary device for work and i think is really good for the price(Screen is great, battery life is also great, looks ok) but my main problem are the GO apps (Gmail Go, YouTube Go, Maps Go, etc...) that get crash all the time and if a change to another app or if the device locks the apps always reset and is super annoying specially with the Maps app, before this i was using another Huawei with also 1gb of RAM and older android version and all those apps where running smoothly so i think is fault of the Go version of android oreo

I bought this phone a couple of weeks ago mostly for the price. The phone would be great, but the apps just close themselves, any app that is a little more demanding would close instantly. I contacted huawei, but they just told me to do a bunch of useless solutions to optimize the phone that obviously didn't work and they ignored me when i told them that the problem was the "Go" version of the Android Oreo. Anyway it would be awesome if someone would make a pie ROM for the huawei Y5 2018 or Dra-lx3, or another version that's not "Go". Is the only solution i think for this phone since an update solving the problem from huawei is unlikely to arrive any time soon.

Hi...
I experienced the same problem of @Jyroux and @NateXIII
... the apps just close themselves, any app that is a little more demanding would close instantly...
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even, the apps close themselves suddenly!
I wish some improvement, looking for a naked versione of Android (Oreo or Pie...it doesn't really matter).
Have you any info?
Thanks a lot & CIAO!

Hi friends, I have the same problem.
Has someone managed to root the device?
Could you tell me how I do it please?

Raul1720 said:
Who can develop an Android ROM 9.0 pie for the Huawei Y5 2018 or DRA-LX3 version of 1GB of RAM and 16 storage which comes with Android Go edition which I find very limited to my liking
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If a developer that had the ability to build a ROM owned one of these devices, they would already have built a ROM for it. Since there are no ROMs available, one can assume that no such developers own this device.
Building ROMs requires having one of the devices on hand to test what is built. If you want a developer here to build a ROM this device, you'll have to buy another device like this and donate it to the developer, otherwise, you can try learning to build the ROM yourself or you can give up on the whole idea.
You are much more likely to get a ROM for this device by learning to build it yourself, that will probably happen sooner than finding someone to do it for you. No one is going to take the time to build a ROM for a device they do not own or do not use, especially for free.
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Raul1720 said:
Who can develop an Android ROM 9.0 pie for the Huawei Y5 2018 or DRA-LX3 version of 1GB of RAM and 16 storage which comes with Android Go edition which I find very limited to my liking
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You can flash a GSI, which is kind of a generic rom, if you have bootloader unlocked.

My phone may stop working next year

Hello,
I have a LG L90 D415 that I bought back in 2014 and is working perfectly. I was using it with the last official update sent by the manufacturer (Andorid 5.1.1 Lollipop), but one single APP stop working and when I check for that APP, for it to work I needed to have Android 6 Marshmallow. Problem was that the manufacturer stop supporting the unit and they decided not to provide any other update beyond 5.1.1. Luckily I found that there was version 7 Nougat for my unit as an AOSP with Linange OS. Me, being an ignorant of android configuration, had a hard time installing it but finally was able to make it work. If not for that APP that stop working I would never change the OS but at the end I was happy, it was like having a new phone. I was able to install the APP and make it work. Then few days ago I read this article:
Devices may stop working next year: Here's why
The article is talking about devices that won't be able to work due to outdated security certificates. Specifically about andorid devices using Android version 7 Nougat (the one that I recently install on the phone), the article says:
The most vulnerable devices
Helme said users of Windows computers won't need to worry, as Microsoft has built in constant updating of certificates. Web browsers on most platforms get certificate updates regularly. And because iPhones get system updates so frequently, "I wouldn't be too concerned about this problem if I was an iOS user (I am)."
"But it looks like Android users might have some concerns in the not too distant future," Helme added.
That's because as of April 2020, nearly 40% of all Android devices visible to Google were using now-unsupported Android versions such as Nougat or earlier. (These statistics don't include Amazon Fire tablets, Xiaomi Mi phones or other devices that run non-Google versions of Android.) Many of those older devices may soon lose the ability to connect to most app servers and websites.​
Since I have an old unit it seems that there is no interest from the LinageOS people to build at least version 8 of Android for the LG L90. So I need to ask, What are my options? Is there a way to find updated security certificates?
Please advise.

3d1l said:
Hello,
I have a LG L90 D415 that I bought back in 2014 and is working perfectly. I was using it with the last official update sent by the manufacturer (Andorid 5.1.1 Lollipop), but one single APP stop working and when I check for that APP, for it to work I needed to have Android 6 Marshmallow. Problem was that the manufacturer stop supporting the unit and they decided not to provide any other update beyond 5.1.1. Luckily I found that there was version 7 Nougat for my unit as an AOSP with Linange OS. Me, being an ignorant of android configuration, had a hard time installing it but finally was able to make it work. If not for that APP that stop working I would never change the OS but at the end I was happy, it was like having a new phone. I was able to install the APP and make it work. Then few days ago I read this article:
Devices may stop working next year: Here's why
The article is talking about devices that won't be able to work due to outdated security certificates. Specifically about andorid devices using Android version 7 Nougat (the one that I recently install on the phone), the article says:
The most vulnerable devices
Helme said users of Windows computers won't need to worry, as Microsoft has built in constant updating of certificates. Web browsers on most platforms get certificate updates regularly. And because iPhones get system updates so frequently, "I wouldn't be too concerned about this problem if I was an iOS user (I am)."
"But it looks like Android users might have some concerns in the not too distant future," Helme added.
That's because as of April 2020, nearly 40% of all Android devices visible to Google were using now-unsupported Android versions such as Nougat or earlier. (These statistics don't include Amazon Fire tablets, Xiaomi Mi phones or other devices that run non-Google versions of Android.) Many of those older devices may soon lose the ability to connect to most app servers and websites.​
Since I have an old unit it seems that there is no interest from the LinageOS people to build at least version 8 of Android for the LG L90. So I need to ask, What are my options? Is there a way to find updated security certificates?
Please advise.
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If the manufacturer stops supports a device and if the device is no longer supported by custom development in the android user community and if security updates are no longer supported by the manufacturer or by custom android developers, the only other options are to support the software development yourself, if possible, or get a new device. You obviously won't be able to do the software/security support yourself so that leaves you only the option of getting a new device.
By the way, whoever wrote that article is an idiot iOS user. Yes, Apple will continue to release security updates, but, not for all Apple devices, they don't offer updates/support on their older devices. Apple doesn't want its users to use Apple devices more than a year or two, for this reason, they discontinue support on those older devices to force its users to buy newer devices.
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Droidriven said:
If the manufacturer stops supports a device and if the device is no longer supported by custom development in the android user community and if security updates are no longer supported by the manufacturer or by custom android developers, the only other options are to support the software development yourself, if possible, or get a new device. You obviously won't be able to do the software/security support yourself so that leaves you only the option of getting a new device.
By the way, whoever wrote that article is an idiot iOS user. Yes, Apple will continue to release security updates, but, not for all Apple devices, they don't offer updates/support on their older devices. Apple doesn't want its users to use Apple devices more than a year or two, for this reason, they discontinue support on those older devices to force its users to buy newer devices.
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Thanks,
I definitively won't be able to built my own, I'm just a dumb ignorant normal user, I don't even know how I was able to pull it out, I'm talking about rooting with magisk and installing the Linage version 14 ROM. I read and read, ask a lot of questions that were never answered (nobody seems to be interested). It was like my android lifetime achievement and something that you are able to do only once in your life.
I was checking the phone status and it says that the last uptade that I have installed is Linage OS 14.1 (Andorid 7.1.2), with android security patch level 2019-01-05. I hope that that helps somehow. I also found that there is another ROM of Linage OS using Android 8 (Oreo), for the LG L90 but it says that it is unofficial, so I feel uneasy installing it. It's a shame, the phone is working so fine, it is my first and only smartphone and has been with me... well... more than seven years.

Android One

Hello everyone,
I was searching for Android One topics here and unfortunately found nothing ( probably because of the confusing name)
So can someone explain what's up with this Android One software overlay.
I read some info on wiki but still have some questions:
Is it like normal firmware that only comes with certain smartphones, or you can flash it yourself?
It's a near stock android but, which version is it based on,
does it come out every time new android version rolls out, or it just gets updated to the new one.
and lastly let's say I have android one phone, and after three years they stopped regular updates,
it's still android one compatible phone right, so I can update to the new version myself?
Thank you.

avoup said:
Hello everyone,
I was searching for Android One topics here and unfortunately found nothing ( probably because of the confusing name)
...
and lastly let's say I have android one phone, and after three years they stopped regular updates,
it's still android one compatible phone right, so I can update to the new version myself?
Thank you.
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Hi, Android One are phones that run a lite weight version of Android for budget phones with small specs (under 2Go of RAM, entry level processor,...) called Android Go. It's supposed to give a fluid experience to phones with limited capacity. Each Android Go version (for each Android One device) is in consequences very specific to the device, in order to use efficiently all of what the different specs has to offer.
You can still build ROMs/TWRP for those devices, and use it as a normal device, but the experience will be much slower. So to answer your 3 questions:
1)It's firmware that only comes with certain phones, it's build to use perfectly the SoC and memory, so it's very specific (not generic like GSI)
2) Android One are phones, Android Go is the Android version. Your phone may or may not receive an update to the Next Android version, on that side it's the same as other phones. If it receives an update, you'll run (for example) Android 10 Go Version. So update exists for Android One phones, they won't stay for ever at the same Android version they had at the beginning.
3) when your phone won't be supported anymore, you won't be able to update your phone to another version of Android Go. You'll still be able to flash ROMs or stuff like that, but since Android Go builds are very specific to each devices, you can't flash them "cross devices".
PS: at the moment I've not heard of Android 10 Go Edition, it's still at Android 9 if I'm correct. But it will be updated, the goal of Android one is to support cheap and often not long lasting phone over time.
Read more here : https://www.android.com/versions/go-edition/