Hi,
I own a honor 7 mobile. In the last few days that I have bought, used and read about it, I have found that there seems to be multiple different build versions of the same Honor 7, all distributed by Huawei. EU has a different build version, Chinese have a different, albeit the most functional version and then some more. All this under the same EMUI 3.1 that is there everywhere.
So, while EU users get a Pro camera mode in B140 version of the build, international build version B160 does not have it. So on and so forth for many other features.
This is not just limited to removing or deprecating a few features like call recording where laws demand it (all EU phones don't have call recording), but seems to be an intentional system wide change.
I was soliciting your opinions to see if this sort of "build" fragmentation is prevelant across all android manufacturers (like HTC, Samsung, Sony etc.) or is this something endemic to Chinese manufacturers or may be just Huawei
Thanks,
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chines user clam to update android 9 ....................
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P9 has no hardware to match, and it can't be adapted. It is just a matter of whether Huawei officially wants to get funds to let engineers do the adaptation. Is it willing to give another upgrade to the Kirin 955, which has undergone two upgrades of two major Android versions in the past two years? (Android has signed an agreement with the mobile phone manufacturer to experience at least two major version upgrades). In recent days, I have brushed Android 8.1 for Xiaomi 2s 6 years ago. The power consumption is no different from the original. The fluency is not a level. The original 300M package is really smooth and has a normal function. Thank you.
Hello,
I have a LG L90 D415 that I bought back in 2014 and is working perfectly. I was using it with the last official update sent by the manufacturer (Andorid 5.1.1 Lollipop), but one single APP stop working and when I check for that APP, for it to work I needed to have Android 6 Marshmallow. Problem was that the manufacturer stop supporting the unit and they decided not to provide any other update beyond 5.1.1. Luckily I found that there was version 7 Nougat for my unit as an AOSP with Linange OS. Me, being an ignorant of android configuration, had a hard time installing it but finally was able to make it work. If not for that APP that stop working I would never change the OS but at the end I was happy, it was like having a new phone. I was able to install the APP and make it work. Then few days ago I read this article:
Devices may stop working next year: Here's why
The article is talking about devices that won't be able to work due to outdated security certificates. Specifically about andorid devices using Android version 7 Nougat (the one that I recently install on the phone), the article says:
The most vulnerable devices
Helme said users of Windows computers won't need to worry, as Microsoft has built in constant updating of certificates. Web browsers on most platforms get certificate updates regularly. And because iPhones get system updates so frequently, "I wouldn't be too concerned about this problem if I was an iOS user (I am)."
"But it looks like Android users might have some concerns in the not too distant future," Helme added.
That's because as of April 2020, nearly 40% of all Android devices visible to Google were using now-unsupported Android versions such as Nougat or earlier. (These statistics don't include Amazon Fire tablets, Xiaomi Mi phones or other devices that run non-Google versions of Android.) Many of those older devices may soon lose the ability to connect to most app servers and websites.
Since I have an old unit it seems that there is no interest from the LinageOS people to build at least version 8 of Android for the LG L90. So I need to ask, What are my options? Is there a way to find updated security certificates?
Please advise.
3d1l said:
Hello,
I have a LG L90 D415 that I bought back in 2014 and is working perfectly. I was using it with the last official update sent by the manufacturer (Andorid 5.1.1 Lollipop), but one single APP stop working and when I check for that APP, for it to work I needed to have Android 6 Marshmallow. Problem was that the manufacturer stop supporting the unit and they decided not to provide any other update beyond 5.1.1. Luckily I found that there was version 7 Nougat for my unit as an AOSP with Linange OS. Me, being an ignorant of android configuration, had a hard time installing it but finally was able to make it work. If not for that APP that stop working I would never change the OS but at the end I was happy, it was like having a new phone. I was able to install the APP and make it work. Then few days ago I read this article:
Devices may stop working next year: Here's why
The article is talking about devices that won't be able to work due to outdated security certificates. Specifically about andorid devices using Android version 7 Nougat (the one that I recently install on the phone), the article says:
The most vulnerable devices
Helme said users of Windows computers won't need to worry, as Microsoft has built in constant updating of certificates. Web browsers on most platforms get certificate updates regularly. And because iPhones get system updates so frequently, "I wouldn't be too concerned about this problem if I was an iOS user (I am)."
"But it looks like Android users might have some concerns in the not too distant future," Helme added.
That's because as of April 2020, nearly 40% of all Android devices visible to Google were using now-unsupported Android versions such as Nougat or earlier. (These statistics don't include Amazon Fire tablets, Xiaomi Mi phones or other devices that run non-Google versions of Android.) Many of those older devices may soon lose the ability to connect to most app servers and websites.
Since I have an old unit it seems that there is no interest from the LinageOS people to build at least version 8 of Android for the LG L90. So I need to ask, What are my options? Is there a way to find updated security certificates?
Please advise.
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If the manufacturer stops supports a device and if the device is no longer supported by custom development in the android user community and if security updates are no longer supported by the manufacturer or by custom android developers, the only other options are to support the software development yourself, if possible, or get a new device. You obviously won't be able to do the software/security support yourself so that leaves you only the option of getting a new device.
By the way, whoever wrote that article is an idiot iOS user. Yes, Apple will continue to release security updates, but, not for all Apple devices, they don't offer updates/support on their older devices. Apple doesn't want its users to use Apple devices more than a year or two, for this reason, they discontinue support on those older devices to force its users to buy newer devices.
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Droidriven said:
If the manufacturer stops supports a device and if the device is no longer supported by custom development in the android user community and if security updates are no longer supported by the manufacturer or by custom android developers, the only other options are to support the software development yourself, if possible, or get a new device. You obviously won't be able to do the software/security support yourself so that leaves you only the option of getting a new device.
By the way, whoever wrote that article is an idiot iOS user. Yes, Apple will continue to release security updates, but, not for all Apple devices, they don't offer updates/support on their older devices. Apple doesn't want its users to use Apple devices more than a year or two, for this reason, they discontinue support on those older devices to force its users to buy newer devices.
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Thanks,
I definitively won't be able to built my own, I'm just a dumb ignorant normal user, I don't even know how I was able to pull it out, I'm talking about rooting with magisk and installing the Linage version 14 ROM. I read and read, ask a lot of questions that were never answered (nobody seems to be interested). It was like my android lifetime achievement and something that you are able to do only once in your life.
I was checking the phone status and it says that the last uptade that I have installed is Linage OS 14.1 (Andorid 7.1.2), with android security patch level 2019-01-05. I hope that that helps somehow. I also found that there is another ROM of Linage OS using Android 8 (Oreo), for the LG L90 but it says that it is unofficial, so I feel uneasy installing it. It's a shame, the phone is working so fine, it is my first and only smartphone and has been with me... well... more than seven years.
Hello everyone,
I was searching for Android One topics here and unfortunately found nothing ( probably because of the confusing name)
So can someone explain what's up with this Android One software overlay.
I read some info on wiki but still have some questions:
Is it like normal firmware that only comes with certain smartphones, or you can flash it yourself?
It's a near stock android but, which version is it based on,
does it come out every time new android version rolls out, or it just gets updated to the new one.
and lastly let's say I have android one phone, and after three years they stopped regular updates,
it's still android one compatible phone right, so I can update to the new version myself?
Thank you.
avoup said:
Hello everyone,
I was searching for Android One topics here and unfortunately found nothing ( probably because of the confusing name)
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and lastly let's say I have android one phone, and after three years they stopped regular updates,
it's still android one compatible phone right, so I can update to the new version myself?
Thank you.
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Hi, Android One are phones that run a lite weight version of Android for budget phones with small specs (under 2Go of RAM, entry level processor,...) called Android Go. It's supposed to give a fluid experience to phones with limited capacity. Each Android Go version (for each Android One device) is in consequences very specific to the device, in order to use efficiently all of what the different specs has to offer.
You can still build ROMs/TWRP for those devices, and use it as a normal device, but the experience will be much slower. So to answer your 3 questions:
1)It's firmware that only comes with certain phones, it's build to use perfectly the SoC and memory, so it's very specific (not generic like GSI)
2) Android One are phones, Android Go is the Android version. Your phone may or may not receive an update to the Next Android version, on that side it's the same as other phones. If it receives an update, you'll run (for example) Android 10 Go Version. So update exists for Android One phones, they won't stay for ever at the same Android version they had at the beginning.
3) when your phone won't be supported anymore, you won't be able to update your phone to another version of Android Go. You'll still be able to flash ROMs or stuff like that, but since Android Go builds are very specific to each devices, you can't flash them "cross devices".
PS: at the moment I've not heard of Android 10 Go Edition, it's still at Android 9 if I'm correct. But it will be updated, the goal of Android one is to support cheap and often not long lasting phone over time.
Read more here : https://www.android.com/versions/go-edition/
I want to upgrade my device to a new version of android and I can not find any custom rom for it.
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I want to upgrade my device to a new version of android and I can not find any custom rom for it.
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Here's what I found when googling this :
no more getdroidtip, bad website
Hi to all,
I want to let you all know that the site that was mentioned above (getdroidtips) is misleading and could potentially brick your phone.
I have a Meizu M6T smartphone ( build M811H ) , bought it new 2 years ago in Europe.
Meizu M6T M811H
GSM baseband version : MOLY.LR11.W1630.MD.MP.V29.P31
CDMA : SIXTH.CBP.MD.MP5.V34_P7
and I've tried to upgrade to Flyme 7, however, the update they've referencing is I think a ROM from/for a different device ( doing search I found out that there are at least some localized version of M6T - which I think is a model of M6T that's selling in India and China only and is called Meizu 6T )
My personal opinion is that this budget phone is pretty much sturdy and capable, but lacks of proper company and community support, not so available parts ( or should I say very low quality are only able to find) and excessive amount of bloatware, made it obsolete little quicker.
Read and learn from my experience,
I’ve downloaded the update.zip from the link and installed as supposed using the steps .
After the update finished installing – I was welcomed by new start screen and I immediately noticed that phone runs much faster and much smoother.
However there are some issues with the update –
1. After the update, baseband isn’t working – it’s version is displayed as Unknown in the System settings. Same goes with both SIM card slots – the IMEI is displayed as null. Neither one SIM worked after the update.
2. Second thing I’ve noticed is that the actual name of the phone is now Meizu 6T. Not M6T, which makes me wonder if this actual update is from the another device. The listed ROMs on the official Meizu site doesn’t contain Flyme 7 version for the M6T ( not even the betas, which the update is – a beta version )
3. The third and most annoying thing is – even if this update installs Flyme 7 on the phone, it is still an Android 7 version, not Oreo. This phone never shipped with Oreo, it shipped with Flyme 6 and Android 7.0 Nougat. This update only installs Flyme 7, not a Android 8 OREO version.
I’m writing this because there is absolutely zero support on the XDA community for this model and the link above on GetDroidTips will probably cause you baseband not working and getting phone pretty much unusable ( I’ve stopped after base band issue, who knows what else doesn’t work ).
The procedure can be reversed by installing the previous 6.3 update from the Meizu site, but even after I’ve downgrade it, I experienced some weird behavior, additional bloated software and WIFI works weird and I needed to swap the SIM cards so they could work - and who knows what I'm to experience in next couple of days.
So I’m not sure if I would go after this if I knew what outcome may it bring.
If anyone had successfully updated the ROM - please share with us and let us know where did you purchased the phone, what version are you using and what baseband and GSM/CDMA versions were you on before etc.
Kind regards,
Pete
studentdriver666 said:
Hi to all,
I want to let you all know that the site that was mentioned above (getdroidtips) is misleading and could potentially brick your phone.
I have a Meizu M6T smartphone ( build M811H ) , bought it new 2 years ago in Europe.
Meizu M6T M811H
GSM baseband version : MOLY.LR11.W1630.MD.MP.V29.P31
CDMA : SIXTH.CBP.MD.MP5.V34_P7
and I've tried to upgrade to Flyme 7, however, the update they've referencing is I think a ROM from/for a different device ( doing search I found out that there are at least some localized version of M6T - which I think is a model of M6T that's selling in India and China only and is called Meizu 6T )
My personal opinion is that this budget phone is pretty much sturdy and capable, but lacks of proper company and community support, not so available parts ( or should I say very low quality are only able to find) and excessive amount of bloatware, made it obsolete little quicker.
Read and learn from my experience,
I’ve downloaded the update.zip from the link and installed as supposed using the steps .
After the update finished installing – I was welcomed by new start screen and I immediately noticed that phone runs much faster and much smoother.
However there are some issues with the update –
1. After the update, baseband isn’t working – it’s version is displayed as Unknown in the System settings. Same goes with both SIM card slots – the IMEI is displayed as null. Neither one SIM worked after the update.
2. Second thing I’ve noticed is that the actual name of the phone is now Meizu 6T. Not M6T, which makes me wonder if this actual update is from the another device. The listed ROMs on the official Meizu site doesn’t contain Flyme 7 version for the M6T ( not even the betas, which the update is – a beta version )
3. The third and most annoying thing is – even if this update installs Flyme 7 on the phone, it is still an Android 7 version, not Oreo. This phone never shipped with Oreo, it shipped with Flyme 6 and Android 7.0 Nougat. This update only installs Flyme 7, not a Android 8 OREO version.
I’m writing this because there is absolutely zero support on the XDA community for this model and the link above on GetDroidTips will probably cause you baseband not working and getting phone pretty much unusable ( I’ve stopped after base band issue, who knows what else doesn’t work ).
The procedure can be reversed by installing the previous 6.3 update from the Meizu site, but even after I’ve downgrade it, I experienced some weird behavior, additional bloated software and WIFI works weird and I needed to swap the SIM cards so they could work - and who knows what I'm to experience in next couple of days.
So I’m not sure if I would go after this if I knew what outcome may it bring.
If anyone had successfully updated the ROM - please share with us and let us know where did you purchased the phone, what version are you using and what baseband and GSM/CDMA versions were you on before etc.
Kind regards,
Pete
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Hi Pete!
Thanks for for explanation.
I wonder if you have solve you problem by making you device working properly.
recently, I brought one from China and I was suprized to see that the device was already rooted! I tried to unroot by it's complicated. Then I'm unable to flash a stock rom from recovery. Every time it said File is corrupt. Now I looking for a solution.
Excuse my english
Someone knows if it's possible to flash the global firmware version on the chinese modell?
Because not all parts are translated, I would like to change this.
The GT-N5100 I have is produced by Tianjin Samsung Communication Technology Co., Ltd. Obviously, it is the Chinese version. Since I have successfully flashed the Poland version of the firmware (Android 4.4.4), maybe this is feasible. By the way I'm amazed that this nine-year-old tablet is still able to play its residual heat, it can't do without you active community maintainers, if mine is still working during the summer, I think I will join The ranks of maintainers who compile class native systems and fix bugs