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Exynos 5 Octa and Snapdragon 800

Does anyone else think that the new-generation Exynos SoC will support 802.11ac and LTE-A? Or playing back 1080p video at 60 fps and 2k quality at 30 fps? These are features which were never really discussed about the chipset itself.
The Snapdragon 800 was confirmed to have compatibility and capability of all of the aforementioned. It sounds as if the Snapdragon 800 series will be the superior chipset, while the Exynos Octa will likely provide better power efficiency in some regard. It would be pretty disappointing if the Galaxy S IV got stuck with a Snapdragon 600 processor, given the date it's likely going to be pushed out on. It might make me consider the Note this time around.

i really hope all these rumors are fake, samsung should use Exynos on there flagship Galaxy S line ! if not the octa, maybe the Exynos 5 Quad Core 1.8-2.0GHz !

All the Snapdragon 600 happens to be is a mid-tear SoC, which improves upon the same GPU and performance of the S4 Pro. Real A15 architectures should blow this chipset out of the water. People seem to think that what they see now is good. But when the Snapdragon 800 and other A15-based chips start making their debut, this will feel dated quickly in the coming months.

megagodx said:
All the Snapdragon 600 happens to be is a mid-tear SoC, which improves upon the same GPU and performance of the S4 Pro. Real A15 architectures should blow this chipset out of the water. People seem to think that what they see now is good. But when the Snapdragon 800 and other A15-based chips start making their debut, this will feel dated quickly in the coming months.
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clock-per-clock a15 is just 15% faster than krait, dont think that there's so much differences between the two.
they are both really solid performers and the batle is all on the maximum clock/power required rateo.

The SD800 will also feature Quick Charge 2.0, which is supposed to charge your battery 75% faster than other SoC chipsets without that same function. SD600 doesn't feature that either. I'm pretty sure if you seen the initial Tegra 4 benchmarks (based off of real A15 architecture) - they wipe the floor with the HTC One's SD600. Being 75% increased in performance over the Snapdragon S4 Pro (last year's best mobile SoC), the SD800 should bring comparatively the same or better results than the T4 mentioned. That's kind of going to be a disappointment if the S IV ends up with a SD600 and no Exynos 5 Quad/Octa, at least.

PCMark: Note3 out-performs Note4

See benchmark details here
Top scores....
Note 3: 5130
Note 4: 4942

Duh...
Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A57 (SM-N910C)
quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7 & Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 (N9000)
The Exynos CPU in the N3 and N4 hava exactly the same speed... And yet the N9005 only has a 1920x1080 screen, whereas the Note 4 has to render 2560x1440.
Thank you for proving why I absolutely hate Exynos.
I'd like to know the Snapdragon variants. Since the Note 4 does have a significantly more powerful Snapdragon CPU, and the Snapdragon is the 80% of the market model, the Exynos is only for lower markets.
Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450 (SM-N910S)
Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400 (N9005)

But the Exynos in the Note 4 is pretty awesome already:
http://anandtech.com/show/8718/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-exynos-review
Good things are to come with the one in the Galaxy S6.

If you would run the PCMark test yourselves and post the results, that would be great!!
Thanks

ShadowLea said:
the Exynos is only for lower markets.
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This is kind of offending!, and I am non emotional guy who hates Exynos too :|

devilsdouble said:
This is kind of offending!, and I am non emotional guy who hates Exynos too :|
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If a market sells less or requires less high-level hardware due to an older, less sophisticated network system, it's considered a lower market. The demand and proceeds are lower compared to the high-selling markets, thus the word lower.
That's not a personal attempt at insult, it's a corporate definition.
Until 4G was rolled out, the Netherlands was one of those lower markets. (Though, frankly, I still consider it as such..) In the days of the S3, every non-US country was considered a lower market.
(Besides, I'm a sociopath, I don't do emotional )

Marketing aside: Temasek's CM12 + arter97 kernel + data&cache partitions in f2fs.
The phone is superfast as hell, but benchmark result was this:

Times are changing, for the worse and for better, i know it makes no sense, but so doesnt sammy.
They seem to drop Snapdragon, and with 810 in sight (ignored too), Exynos is going for a PR fight with overheating accusations, and being the sucky ones in performance and the best in sales (Samsung generally), they just made their phones even less open to the people, HOWEVER...they are dropping bloat too.
As i said, they are making no sense.

sirobelec said:
Marketing aside: Temasek's CM12 + arter97 kernel + data&cache partitions in f2fs.
The phone is superfast as hell, but benchmark result was this:
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Stock Note N900 seems to perform better
PCMark for Android claims to......
Measure the performance and battery life of your Android smart phone and tablet using tests based on everyday tasks, not abstract algorithms.

ShadowLea said:
If a market sells less or requires less high-level hardware due to an older, less sophisticated network system, it's considered a lower market. The demand and proceeds are lower compared to the high-selling markets, thus the word lower.
That's not a personal attempt at insult, it's a corporate definition.
Until 4G was rolled out, the Netherlands was one of those lower markets. (Though, frankly, I still consider it as such..) In the days of the S3, every non-US country was considered a lower market.
(Besides, I'm a sociopath, I don't do emotional )
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ShadowLea said:
Duh...
Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A57 (SM-N910C)
quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7 & Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 (N9000)
The Exynos CPU in the N3 and N4 hava exactly the same speed... And yet the N9005 only has a 1920x1080 screen, whereas the Note 4 has to render 2560x1440.
Thank you for proving why I absolutely hate Exynos.
I'd like to know the Snapdragon variants. Since the Note 4 does have a significantly more powerful Snapdragon CPU, and the Snapdragon is the 80% of the market model, the Exynos is only for lower markets.
Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450 (SM-N910S)
Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400 (N9005)
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Why don't you simply run the test yourself with the superior phone/network you have and let the results speak for themselves?
PCMark for android

4354 here UK note 3

If Samsung do end up dropping Qualcomm in their next generation of phones, my N9005 Note 3 will be my last Samsung for the foreseeable future. Exynos holds no interest for me, as it's closed source nature inevitably means little to no support for non-stock AOSP/CM roms. And the non-stock roms that are available are generally unstable and bug ridden.

^ +100
We know S6 is not going to have S810, why wouldnt they follow the same path with Note's too?
SM-N9005 is my last Samsung device, i am not going to drag myself to pain with Exynos.

New top score... 5130

Benchmark scores between flagship phones mean precisely jack s**t these days, they're little more than **** waving. Discernible features is what should be compared.
"Wow, my Android phone scored 200 more points than your Android phone! And please, let's ignore the fact it will make precisely zero difference in real world use!"

Beefheart said:
Benchmark scores between flagship phones mean precisely jack s**t these days, they're little more than **** waving. Discernible features is what should be compared.
"Wow, my Android phone scored 200 more points than your Android phone! And please, let's ignore the fact it will make precisely zero difference in real world use!"
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Ignorance is bliss!!
The whole point of these tests is to show that most of the other benchmarks don't show a true picture of real-life use.
Why else would Note 3 appear to perform better than Note4?
The PCMark webpage states the following...
PCMark for Android introduces a fresh approach to benchmarking smart phones and tablets. It measures the performance and battery life of the device as a complete unit rather than a set of isolated components. And its tests are based on common, everyday tasks instead of abstract algorithms.
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Yeah, that completely changed my opinion.*
* may contain sarcasm.

Beefheart said:
Yeah, that completely changed my opinion.*
* may contain sarcasm.
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Have it your way... at least , I, am actually investigating

It's in the interest of the benchmark app developers for users to believe their offerings aren't pointless.

Beefheart said:
It's in the interest of the benchmark app developers for users to believe their offerings aren't pointless.
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I agree with you on this....... generally.
I however found this particular benchmark interesting for the following reasons....
1. It proves software is the biggest bottleneck in android phones, not hardware. ( Lollipop on Note3 >>beats>> kitkat onNote4 )
2. It proved that my Note 3 performs better in everyday use than my Note4 ( This I have always known but no benchmark showed it.)

S7 8890 or 820

Hello,
Im currently using a Samsung Galaxy S6 32gb and i love this phone and for me its a very good phone, it has everything i need, i have 9 pages of apps in the app drawer all my movie, games, pics, docs and songs and the phone never let me down but im a performance kinda guy and while i love the performance of the s6 after watching the unpacked 2016 i have decided to get the s7 but after doing so looking i found that the 8890 is more of a CPU SoC while the 820 is more of a GPU SoC so i wanna know i want to have the full S7 experience complete with the gear vr and vulkan api so which one should i get i know that the 820 is a 2+2 CPU with the GPU is doing about 550+ gflops while the 8890 is 4+4 and the GPU is doing about 250+ gflops so which one should i get and why and what are the pros and cons of each one
Thanks a lot and sorry for the long post

The only thing that matters is if you care about AOSP ROMs or not. If you do, Snapdragon is your only choice.

As said before I think there will not be a big difference in regards to the performance. The SD820 tends to be a little bit faster in single core applications, while the Exynos will perform better for multi core applications. Will you notice it? I doubt so.
The GPU in the SD820 is indeed faster, but potentially oversized, too (produces more heat => throttles more). So while benchmarks could be better, after some minutes the GPUs are (more or less) on the same high. Some people will agree, some will not
I think the only point that really matters is if you would like to get custom roms, mainly AOSP roms, at a certain time. With the SD820 your chances are a lot higher. Apart from that...

kaspar737 said:
The only thing that matters is if you care about AOSP ROMs or not. If you do, Snapdragon is your only choice.
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cerbsium said:
As said before I think there will not be a big difference in regards to the performance. The SD820 tends to be a little bit faster in single core applications, while the Exynos will perform better for multi core applications. Will you notice it? I doubt so.
The GPU in the SD820 is indeed faster, but potentially oversized, too (produces more heat => throttles more). So while benchmarks could be better, after some minutes the GPUs are (more or less) on the same high. Some people will agree, some will not
I think the only point that really matters is if you would like to get custom roms, mainly AOSP roms, at a certain time. With the SD820 your chances are a lot higher. Apart from that...
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Im not actually into costume roms at all, i actually like the Samsung rom with the touch wiz ui so i guess it will be the 8890 since there wont be any real world noticeable difference

exynos gives 38k em 3d antutu and snap 820 50k, for games snap 820 will be better

matheus_sc said:
exynos gives 38k em 3d antutu and snap 820 50k, for games snap 820 will be better
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You're confusing benchmark scores with game performance. Despite the difference you list (which I suspect, from Exynos' perspective, is the worst result amongst many), I'll be amazed if you find a single game with a discernible performance increase on the Snapdragon. It's all about the heat and power efficiency, there could well be a difference between the two in that respect.

Noob question
How do I tell which one I have?

thafz said:
How do I tell which one I have?
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Are you in america? Then you have the snapdragon, elsewhere gets the exynos.

peachpuff said:
Are you in america? Then you have the snapdragon, elsewhere gets the exynos.
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Okay thanks I also ran the benchmark last night and it shows there exynos. Actually thought I had the 820 since mine gets pretty warm

matheus_sc said:
exynos gives 38k em 3d antutu and snap 820 50k, for games snap 820 will be better
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Wouldn't be accurate to say the exynos has a faster CPU and generally performs better in day to day tasks, while the adreno has a faster GPU which would do better with high end 3D gaming?

S7 Snapdragon 820 VS Exynous 8890

Asking about which s7 is with Snapdragon 820 and which version is Exynous 8890.
And also anyone know which is the best suit snapdragon or exynous one? Willing to know

There is already a thread comparing the Exynos 8890 with the Snapdragon 820 over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/exynos-vs-snapdragon-benchmarks-t3319913
But to summarize it a little bit:
The general consensus seems to be that the Exynos 8890 has the fastest processor, while the Snapdragon 820 has the best performing graphics processor. Notably, the Exynos chip seems to be faster at single threaded as well as multithreaded workloads due to the high single/dual core frequency of 2.6 GHz, and it's total of 8 processing cores.
Some people are concerned about the power consumption of the Snapdragon 820, and believe the Exynos 8890 to be the more power efficient choice.
There have been some concerns about the cell reception on the Exynos 8890 version, leading some people to consider ordering the Snapdragon 820 version.
The last two points in particular should be taken with a pinch of salt until more people get their hands on the phones and conduct some proper tests.

Question Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra (Snapdragon) vs S22 Ultra Exynos

I came across with two tests today comparing the both processors. Though some people would be interested. I would also like to see the both phones users confirming the results on their side. 3DMark Wild Life scores on the other hand are a bit disappointing for Exynos. I have currently ordered an Exynos version and still have time to cancel it. What would you recommend?
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I came across with two tests today comparing the both processors. Though some people would be interested. I would also like to see the both phones users confirming the results on their side. 3DMark Wild Life scores on the other hand are a bit disappointing for Exynos. I have currently ordered an Exynos version and still have time to cancel it. What would you recommend?
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I would definitely keep your order running.
I had both versions of the S21 ultra.
Im not playing games, but use my phones a lot... And to be honest, i couldn't feel or see any difference.
I pre-order the S22 ultra to in the Exynos version without any concerns vs the SD version.
I have the Tab S7 to and never had any problems.
This is just my humble opinion

Per Tom's Hardware:
Ice Universe says that the AMD RNDA2 GPU part of the Exynos SoC has a target clock speed of 1.9 GHz. However, in practice, due to thermal issues, it could only run at 1.29 GHz, in an acceptable manner. Various clocks between 1.29 GHz and 1.9 GHz were tested, goes the tale, but the lesser speed was the first with acceptable thermals. The actual temperatures are not revealed, instead we learn that all for speeds greater than 1.29 GHz, they are "hot".
Ice Universe has some further interesting info about what Samsung is trying now that it has hit that thermal throttling performance wall. According to Ice Universe's leak, Samsung is going to try and tweak things to get the GPU running acceptably at 1.49GHz "to restore some dignity".

I've used both of them and based on my experience, Snapdragon is always better. It gives you stable performance and often supports bootloader unlocking.

sureshkumargs said:
I've used both of them and based on my experience, Snapdragon is always better. It gives you stable performance and often supports bootloader unlocking.
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"Snapdragon often supports bootloader unlocking" Not on S Series devices, much wider availability on Exynos variants. Only one Snapdragon variant offered bootloader access on the S21 Ultra, SM-G9980.

You would find More developers working on snap dragon than Exynos to bring custom ROMS. If you see devices such as Poco F1, OnePlus 8T and X3 Pro you would find almost every custom from working on them.

This is a S22 Ultra Forum, we're not discussing a bunch of cheap Chinese phones nor is the OP asking questions about them. What does your response have do with the unlocked bootloaders on S Series variants? Exynos devices have far more development and custom ROM's on S Series than Snapdragon. In reality development is declining with Samsung devices, Android 12 and OneUI 4 has made it far more challenging to implement custom platforms.

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I came across with two tests today comparing the both processors. Though some people would be interested. I would also like to see the both phones users confirming the results on their side. 3DMark Wild Life scores on the other hand are a bit disappointing for Exynos. I have currently ordered an Exynos version and still have time to cancel it. What would you recommend?
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Since you've ordered a Exynos equipped device I assume you're in Europe or the UK, correct? So your Service Provider can only enable all their Call Features (5G, Carrier Aggregation and the rest) if you have a Exynos Chipset and their branded phone or possibly the unlocked device. How valuable are those features to you? For me it's a no brainer, I would only aquire the Snapdragon SoC no matter where I lived "if" I wanted the device, which I don't. The more that is made public, the less confidence I have in the S22 Ultra, particularly the Exynos version. Honestly, if someone gave one to me for free, I'd give it back.

Thanks for the replies. I've found this on youtube and it shows that the performance of Exynos 2100 has been improved / optimised in time and caught up with SD so decided to keep Exynos version.

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Thanks for the replies. I've found this on youtube and it shows that the performance of Exynos 2100 has been improved / optimised in time and caught up with SD so decided to keep Exynos version.
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That's the S21 Exynos SoC. The S32 Ultra has a Exynos 2200 Chipset which has been totally redesigned.

varcor said:
That's the S21 Exynos SoC. The S32 Ultra has a Exynos 2200 Chipset which has been totally redesigned.
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Yes I'm aware of it. I shared it as a reference of how Samsung support Exynos 2100 in time and improved it's performance. So Exynos 2200 might have a lower score against SD at the moment but it's performance will be improved in time too.