charging tests - whats the best charger? - Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers

Hey guys, as we all saw, the new note 20 charging specs isn't as good as the old one coming up to 25W rather than 45W.
But as for my past experience those on-paper specs aren't exact accurate and sure never fully explained.
unfortunately I don't own note 20 (yet?), so I can't share my highly detailed tests that I usually do, but those of you who own it and can share any data of test please write it down here.
Try to measure any of the following details:
* what charger(s) are you using? (Name / output powers / Power delivery version / etc... picture of the specs on it will be sufficient)
* what voltage and ampere (or watt) are being used (hold it few seconds to let it settle, it also should vary on the current starting point battery level, and wether screen is on/ off) (the more details you bring, the better)
* if you got no power meter than charging times could also be usefull (0->30, 0->50, 10->20, etc..)
after we get some tests here I'll sum it all up in a google sheets (like these: example1, example2, example3)
and after that we can get some recommendation of what 3rd party chargers are best to buy
If you are like me and like plugging a charger in every corner you probably want something good, with high speeds, and original is always more expensive than 3rd party ones so why not knowing the specs first.
Also we might find out that some charger can charge even faster than the original 25W one (what about 30W,45W,65W PD 3.0 chargers? what about PD 2.0? 1.0? etc..)
Your contribute will be highly appreciated!

I have an N9860 from Hong Kong. Normally I am happy to slow charge and have my charge settings set that way. Today, as an experiment for this discussion I enabled fast charging and super fast charging and connected to a 60W PD/QC4+ charger via a USB-C monitor.. The charger is branded Klearlook and was bought from Amazon in the UK a couple of years ago.
The phone is receiving/demanding only 15W at 9.2V, 1.6A. That is from 13% to 44%.
I removed the monitor in case it was interfering with handshaking protocols and it has had no impact on remaining time to full charge (now 58 minutes remaining at 46%.
Using the same charger I disconnected the PD cord and switched to an 18W USB-A port without a monitor. No change to remaining time to full charge.
So I'm getting fast charging, but not super fast charging from my combination charger - a charger that will happily run my Dell XPS 13 laptop from the PD port.
So then I unboxed the supplied charger and cord, previously unused. With the monitor attached I'm seeing 18W - 9V at 2A - and the phone says super fast charging, briefly, with the screen off and only the charging information displayed.
I'll just carry on as normal with my slow charging to 80% (thanks Accubattery) since that suits my needs perfectly well and should hopefully minimise battery degradation over time.

Thank you very much for that highly detailed measurement and review!
Results are pretty disappointing, your charger should have be good scenario
Hopefully (but doubt it) maybe others would find better results

tdodd said:
I have an N9860 from Hong Kong. Normally I am happy to slow charge and have my charge settings set that way. Today, as an experiment for this discussion I enabled fast charging and super fast charging and connected to a 60W PD/QC4+ charger via a USB-C monitor.. The charger is branded Klearlook and was bought from Amazon in the UK a couple of years ago.
The phone is receiving/demanding only 15W at 9.2V, 1.6A. That is from 13% to 44%.
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The fact that maybe your PD QC4+ does not support PPS (the only way to enable 25W charging on Note 20 ultra or 45W on Note 10 plus).
Confirm that your charger does support PD with PPS protocol.
Yes, it's a bit annoying (to say the least) that note 20 is slower (downgrade) compared to Note 10 in terms of charging speed.
Regards.
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I have no idea about PPS - never heard of it until now. The charger is no longer available from Amazon. I bought it in August 2018. Maybe it predates PPS. Anyway, a Google search found what appears to be the same product here....
https://www.desertcart.com.kw/produ...-charging-station-with-type-c-to-type-c-cable

tdodd said:
I have no idea about PPS - never heard of it until now. The charger is no longer available from Amazon. I bought it in August 2018. Maybe it predates PPS. Anyway, a Google search found what appears to be the same product here....
https://www.desertcart.com.kw/produ...-charging-station-with-type-c-to-type-c-cable
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Yeah, no mention of PPS anywhere, only AFC on the 3 non-USBC ports (limited to 18W).
And you are right Note 10 and S20 (the ones using PPS - 25/45W are 2019 phones), so the power supply being a 2018 product may lack the latest protocols.
I have a Note 9 (2018 product) and no ”Super fast charge“...
I had the same problem (bought a 45W car charger), just to find out it lacked PPS protocol, so no 25W or 45W charging speeds. I Had to return it, and carefully search for an updated version (more expensive) supporting it.
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I have several chargers I use, but without any real testing, it feels like my 45w charger from Samsung is the best experience. I attached my charging log screen shots. 1%-100% in 1hr 13min. I get the super charging icon through the entire charge. I will try the same test with the 25w charger and see if there is any difference. It feels like it charges just as fast as my previous note 10+ 5g, which is why I got this charging block in the first place.

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How fast is OP6 charging without dash rapid charger?

I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a non-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
Stay on topic guys. OP asked a question, which could be answered with facts, rather than opinions and scenarios. In my regular car charger, I go from 22 to about 70 in 40 minutes, if I can recall correctly.
ItsLaggyY said:
Like it would take years like why would you want to know this, if you broke your charger buy another and look after it like. It's one of the main features of the phone and they don't talk about how fast it charges like
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I'm not sure if you're serious or sarcastic, but In case of the former, here are a few reasons why someone might be interested in charging with other than the Dash Charger:
1) AFAIK, Dash is available in AC mains or 12V Car charger versions. I often use a 20K mAH Anker powerbank battery for charging. That is usually in situations where other power is not available, but a quick charge is needed. Huge current is available, but would the OP6 use it?
2) I use a compact travel charger that has 5 USB charging ports. Using a Dash charger would require carrying another charger (big, bulky, without retractable prongs), and occupying one (or more due to the shape) additional AC outlets.
3) I have a phone charger in my bedroom, at my desk, in my travel bag (both AC and Car style), and in my car. A quick check on Amazon seems to indicate that the Oneplus6 charger is several times more expensive than other "quick charge" chargers. Over multiple charger locations, the extra costs add up.
Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
dwj said:
Using the word "like" so many times makes it difficult to understand the post.
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I'm Irish, apology
I have a stockpile of fast chargers that used the weird Nexus standard (5V, 3A, non QC) and they're okay, and for overnight or at my desk at work that's plenty fast to get the job done. The phone shows them as "charging" and not "charging slowly."
I purchased a "Tinduqin oneplus5T charger" from Amazon that works and looks exactly the same as the original dash charger for about $20, but it seems to already be sold out.
If you don't use dash charger,you only can charge at 5v 1.5a,I have tested it with apple 45w pd charger,xiaomi qc3.0 and nexus 5v3a charger
timg11 said:
I have the Samsung Note 4. Like the OP6, it has a proprietary "quick charge" mode, but I find it will also charge quite fast when provided with a anon-Quick Charge source such as a battery that can source several amps of current.
How fast does the OP6 charge without the Dash charger and cable? (in terms of amps drawn from source?)
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It won't charge very fast because it doesn't use any on board quick charge it's all in the dash charging brick
I have a bunch quick chargers 3.0 at home. It takes a life time. I end up buying the dash charger. I still use the quick charger for over night charging
there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
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there must be some sort of software restrictions on oneplus6 since measures show that oneplus6 cannot be charged with more than 5V-1.5A.
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Do you own the OP6? Do you have a USB power meter that could measure the charging current with and without the Dash charger and reply with the values?
On my Note 4, it charges at about 1.17A / 5 V when the screen is on, and the current goes up to 1.6A with the screen off. That is with either a QC2 Quick Charger or a battery power pack. The phone reports "quick charger connected" in both cases.
oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
1N1ghth4wk said:
At work i use a QC3.0 charger for my OP6. Didn't notice a great difference to the DASH charger at home. Maybe DASH is a few minutes faster.
40% to 70% charge with QC3.0 is still insanely fast.
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Is it possible to use a the original DASH-adapter but with another USB-C cable? I need a longer cable so I can use the phone whilwe charging.
OnePlus has a original cable for sale which is only 150cm Long.
My question is if I can buy any other manufacturers cable whish also support some sort of fast charging. I've heard for example that DASH-charging is the same charging model that Huawei P20 Pro uses, they just have different name. .
So, is there anyone here that has switched the OP original cable and charge it up with a cable from another manufacturer?
There has to be a solution to this. Me myself can't. be the only one that needs s longer cable.
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oneplus6 has 85% battery left, measured with usb voltmeter and original oneplus dash charger 5V-4A, it shows that oneplus6 is dawning 5V-1.3A and same thing is happening with other usb chargers capable to deliver over 5V-2A.
I guess oneplus6 should be discharged less than 50% or something in order to start receiving over 5V-3A
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That's normal. Phones pull the most amps when on low battery, then progressively less as they are charged.
Check how much it pulls on <40% and <80% respectively.
Well, I charged my Op6 with a no-name USB 3.0 charger yesterday (forgot my dash charger at home, I was by a friend) and from 3% to 100% it took about ~1 hour and 55 minutes.
Not that bad I guess. But I still prefer my dash charger
I'm using a huawei p20 pro charger atm. Phone states from 75 - 100 it will take 33 minutes. (prob a bit faster if I don't use the phone.
Here is a charging session with a Oneplus 2 charger without quick charge
Charging from 27% to 100% in 2 hrs, 40 min - avg. Charging speed: about 1000 mA/h
Hello,
I'm using this old thread since we're talking about the same thing.
Is there a kernel or rom for the OP6 that enables to draw as much current as possible form third party chargers? It's sad that it's stuck at 1.5A no matter the charger unless you use dash charger. 2A is already something, 3A would be awesome.
Of course only if this a software limit.

Power Delivery is Supported

I noticed that Tab S6 did not complain about slow recharging when plugging in a Power Delivery port.
I took some measurements using a couple of meters I have.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FMQZVW2
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D316FHM/
Samsung Charger with Samsung Cable:
9.12V * 1.595A = 14.546 watts
Power Delivery (Google Pixel 2 XL Charger and Cable):
8.39V * 1.93A = 16.19 watts
I also tested with different cables that I already verified that were good and a couple of different chargers for Power Delivery and Quick Charge and results were similar to the measurements above.
ChrisDos said:
I noticed that Tab S6 did not complain about slow recharging when plugging in a Power Delivery port.
I took some measurements using a couple of meters I have.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FMQZVW2
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D316FHM/
Samsung Charger with Samsung Cable:
9.12V * 1.595A = 14.546 watts
Power Delivery (Google Pixel 2 XL Charger and Cable):
8.39V * 1.93A = 16.19 watts
I also tested with different cables that I already verified that were good and a couple of different chargers for Power Delivery and Quick Charge and results were similar to the measurements above.
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I was actually curious about this subject. Thank you for sharing your findings. I am assuming the charges times shouldn't vary much.
Very curious if the 45 Watt charger from the Note10 will give a additional boost.
My Tab is currently on order, but it will take 1 or 2 weeks before it arrives.
I ordered the 256GB model, especially for the 8GB memory.
Brotuck said:
Very curious if the 45 Watt charger from the Note10 will give a additional boost.
My Tab is currently on order, but it will take 1 or 2 weeks before it arrives.
I ordered the 256GB model, especially for the 8GB memory.
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I just ordered one of these on a black friday sale. Did you ever find out if the 45W charger works faster?
No it does not make a difference.
Just a FYI...kinda related?
Without even thinking much about it I've been using the PD port (connected to original charger) on my USB-C to HDMI converter for several months. During usage, which consists of streaming live NFL games via the S6 and watching on my TV, the battery level decreases, albeit slowly, from 100% down to about 85% during a 3-3 1/2 hour session.
I assume this is to be expected, considering. Anyways, just some info for thought.
While fast charging is very convenient, it will affect the longevity of the battery if it's pushed too far.
I buy this one https://www.amazon.com/Vantec-USB-C-3-Port-Delivery-CB-CU301HSPD/dp/B07FQWV2YK but when running usb keyboard and mouse and hdmi i get a warning that battery is draining faster then it is charging and can see battery draining. If I use official samsung battery does not drain.
i know this thread is old, but exactly the issue i have was mentioned here.
i got a multiport adapter, so i can use hdmi and usb 3.0 ports on my tablet. it also came with an usb-c port for with PD 60w charging.
but when i plugged my original amsung charger to the multiport adapter thats connected to my tablet, it said its fullxy charged it 50h.... so.. is this totally normal its like that? the battery draining is faster than the charging. doesnt matter what i do, it is always the same: with the multiport adapter + original samsing chargwer it needs like 50h+ to be fully charged. is it the same for you guys, too? (when i dont use the adapter, my original samsiung charger charges full in 1h30min... that ocnfuses me totally)
can someone explain me in possibly easy words, why it is like that and why it is normal? (in case it actually is normal..) so basically, i would like to know if i should refund the adapter because its usb-c PD charging port is broken, or if this is totally normal behaviour with samsung mobile/tablet charger stuff?
EDIT: meassuring the electricity on my power socket, when i dont use the adapter, its charges with around 12W. but with the adapter it sinks to 1,5W. is that normal?

Question Max charge rate for Moto G Stylus (2021)?

So when you buy a Moto G Stylus (2021), it comes with a 10W charger. And 10W that is sort of what is cagily listed on the Moto website for this device. But when I plug it into a QC3 charger, I get about a 14W charging rate (5V x 2.8A). Does anybody know the maximum charge rate for this device, and specific charger models that can provide it? Would a USB-C PD charger at a higher wattage be able to charge at a faster rate? Thanks in advance for your comments on this matter.
To answer your question, yes a USB C PD adapter would provide faster charging. So long as it's QC 3.0 or higher. 18W or 30W should be fine, I believe the phone input charge maxes out at 15 Watts (absolutely no permission to quote me on that lol) so if you don't mind a bit of heat and the potential of degrading your battery slightly faster than with charging on a standard 1A, 2.4V charger, then the 18W or 27W USB C wall adapter that is compatible with QC 3.0 or 4.0, should be sufficient. Don't forget to grab a couple good grade USB C to C cables as they are often the first thing to go bad and prevents turbocharge from kicking in.
Thanks for the comments, @mario0318 So if I am currently seeing 14W (5V x 2.8A) with a QC3 charger, it sounds like I may be near the max already if it is only 15W. I have no USB-C PD chargers yet that I can use to test, but there was a 25W Belkin model on sale today (for Black Friday) for just $10 so I ordered myself one. When it comes in, I'll test it versus the QC3 charger to see if there is any significant difference.
So I have a basic update here. The QC3 charger I mentioned has an LED readout on it, and that is where I got the estimated 14W charge rate (as 5V x 2.8A). The new 25W Belkin charger I got does not have an LED readout for V & A on it, however. So I turned to the Ampere app on the Play Store. Then I swapped back and forth between the two charging systems and watched the estimated charge rate on Ampere. The 25W Belkin charger definitely shows higher charge rates according to the Ampere app. But I've ordered myself a USB C charge meter (like the old USB "doctor" meters, but with USB C connections) from China to document it more closely.
I might be missing something, but one thing I see lacking with the Ampere app is logging capability--it seems like its strength is just showing rates in real time. It would be cool to find an app that can not only monitor in real0time, but also log charging events with V & A stats, etc. I see AccuBattery may potentially provide this. Or any suggestions out there for another battery charge monitoring app that you think might do the trick?
For those potentially interested in the 25W Belkin charger, the specific model is the "WCA004dqWH", and it is on sale now for $10. It is actually mentioned in a news snippet here at XDA:
https://www.xda-developers.com/belkin-usb-c-25w-charger-deal-november-2021/
I think the Battery Manager app by 3C allows recording logs for power charging events. But I forget if there's a limit with the free app compared to the paid/donate unlocked features.
Regarding the charger wattage, I'm fairly sure anything past 25W would be over kill for charging a single device like the 2021 moto g. At that point it becomes more suitable for two devices, with anything far higher like 60W or 85W being totally unnecessary and potentially harmful.
Thanks again, @mario0318 , for your new comments. I agree that anything beyond 25W would be overkill for this phone.
As a further update, I decided to swap over to AccuBattery, and upgrade to the Pro version. As my Stylus was already charged, I decided to try the two chargers with a Nord N10 5G that had arround a 40% charge. The QC3 charger was charging at an average of 1993 mA with the screen off after I left it sit for a few minutes. When I swapped to the 25W Belkin sytem, it jumped to 2993 mA under the same scenario so like a full 1 Amp difference. These are about the same differences I noticed between the two chargers when charging my G Stylus (2021), but I did not want to say that above because they were off-the-cuff observations. But I took screenshots with AccuBattery this time so no apprehension in stating values this time around. I'll do the same with my G Stylus next time it needs a charge.
AccuBattery suggests only charging up to 80% capacity vs. 100% capacity given the wear and tear difference on the battery. I guess I'll try that, but in the long run, replacing the battery on the G Stylus (2021)--if it ever becomes necessary--looks pretty doable based on teardown videos.

Question Charging speed

So... Phone is supposed to charge at 45W but, from what I've read, this is not really true...
I do not have the original 45W Samsung charger but a 3rd party multiport 90W charger, with 2 PD usb C and one A port.
Till yesterday I was using a standard usb C to C cable and phone would display "fast charging" with an estimate of 1h from 15% to 100%. Not really a good performance I'd say. Today I bought a certified 100W cable with a display showing charging speed (usb C to C). With this cable two things change: phone displays "fast charging 2.0" and charging speed has slightly improved: less than 1h from 12% to 100%. Still not fast enough for a 45W charging... And as a metter of fact after 5 minutes the display on the cable stops at 28W...
This matches with lots of articles that complain for the same problem...
I also have a Xiaomi 12 Pro with dedicated 120W charger + dedicated usb C to A cable (charger has A). I'm saying dedicated, because with any other cable (standard usb C to A or even the above 100W usb C to C with adapter) the Xiaomi displays "turbo charging" while with original dedicated Xiaomi cable it displays "120W max" and is indeed blazing fast: 15 min for a full charge!!!
What is strange is that if I use the Xiaomi 120W charger with dedicated cable on the s22 ultra, phone displays only "fast charging" without the "2.0".
Now... I'm not trying to compare charging speed of s22 ultra to 12 Pro: Xiaomi can achieve such a speed because the phones have two separated batteries that charge simultaneously, thanks to a power splitter that takes the 120W input and splits it into two 60W, one for each battery.
What I'd like to know is what's going on with the s22 ultra. I understand that a basic cable is not enough to deliver 45W, reason why I bought a better cable, yet I was expecting a big improvement, while it improved charging speed of less than 10 minutes. And as a matter of fact I've never seen 45W on the cable display. Maybe I need an original Samsung 45W charger instead of a 3rd party one?
Search the forum, there is a few topics regarding 45w charging... I have a 65w charger and 5a cable and the charger has all the necessary properties/charging formats needed to fast charge 2.0 the samsung, but it doesn't. i don't even get the fast charge 2.0 notification....In the end the difference between the 25w and 45w is very slim....will be a waste of money to purchase the 45w samsung charger....check the other discussion.....my charger takes basically an hour from 10-100%...it's good enough for now
Well good enough if not compared to the blazing fast xiaomi's 120w charge
Most of the time, it's only several minutes charging time difference when I have a "Super fast charging" charger or a "Super fast charging 2.0" charger connected. 45W charging seems to be over hyped by Samsung and it's not using full power to charge all the time.
I have the original new 45W charger and the phone charges from ~ 0% to 50% in approximately 20 minutes as advertised. It is faster by around 22% in comparison to the 25W fast charger between 0-50% state of charge. Afterwards they both charge in almost same way with the 45W charger being max 10 minutes faster by reaching 100%. You need a PD & PPS charger. There are only some 3rd party ones that manage to do same as checked by androidpolice:
Best 45W chargers for the Samsung Galaxy S22+ & S22 Ultra in 2023
Time for a refill for your Samsung S22+ or S22 Ultra. These 45W chargers can help
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buddy66 said:
I have the original new 45W charger and the phone charges from ~ 0% to 50% in approximately 20 minutes as advertised. It is faster by around 22% in comparison to the 25W fast charger between 0-50% state of charge. Afterwards they both charge in almost same way with the 45W charger being max 10 minutes faster by reaching 100%. You need a PD & PPS charger. There are only some 3rd party ones that manage to do same as checked by androidpolice:
Best 45W chargers for the Samsung Galaxy S22+ & S22 Ultra in 2023
Time for a refill for your Samsung S22+ or S22 Ultra. These 45W chargers can help
www.androidpolice.com
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My charger is compatible with FC 2.0 but as I said it depends on the cable. Real problem is that 10 mins faster between 25W and 45W is a real joke. Given this phones is energy hungry then... With the Xiaomi 12 Pro I don't even care: 5 mins and I get 30% of charge, although you need proprietary charger and cable
thegios said:
My charger is compatible with FC 2.0 but as I said it depends on the cable. Real problem is that 10 mins faster between 25W and 45W is a real joke. Given this phones is energy hungry then... With the Xiaomi 12 Pro I don't even care: 5 mins and I get 30% of charge, although you need proprietary charger and cable
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It depends on what you want. For example I am perfectly happy with my 25W charger which comes rarely in use because of me charging wirelessly and without fast charging over the night but I bought the 45W one to have the possibility to get that extra speed between 0 and 50, and my girlfriend gets my old 25W one for her base S22. Samsung has a different approach to fast charging and for me 120W on Xiaomi or 150W on Oppo/OnePlus is something I do not need although I am curious why Samsung did not make the same move yet. Just split the cells in two or three, give each cell a maximum of 25W and boom, you're in the mix and nobody will complain.
On the other hand they lied to us about last gen 45W charger which was useless so it is fair to say that their battery & charging department is almost on the same bad level as the Exynos software team if not actually worse than them
buddy66 said:
It depends on what you want. For example I am perfectly happy with my 25W charger which comes rarely in use because of me charging wirelessly and without fast charging over the night but I bought the 45W one to have the possibility to get that extra speed between 0 and 50, and my girlfriend gets my old 25W one for her base S22. Samsung has a different approach to fast charging and for me 120W on Xiaomi or 150W on Oppo/OnePlus is something I do not need although I am curious why Samsung did not make the same move yet. Just split the cells in two or three, give each cell a maximum of 25W and boom, you're in the mix and nobody will complain.
On the other hand they lied to us about last gen 45W charger which was useless so it is fair to say that their battery & charging department is almost on the same bad level as the Exynos software team if not actually worse than them
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2 cells is exactly what Xiaomi does
Reg Samsung, that's my point: they indeed lie, it's not a 45W phone. Full stop.
I have two Super Fast Samsung 25 watt chargers. One for my S22U and One for my Tab S7+ and both can charge in under an hour. 45 watt chargeers just wasting your money, and extra wear on the battery for a tiny bit of improvement. Not worth it to me.

Question PPS Charger

When i plug my P7P in to an Anker Nano III the P7P vibrates 4 times about 10 seconds apart before charging commences normally, is this how a PPS charger negotiates with the phone or is there a problem be it the charger or the phone?
Didn't even know what PPS was, but just did some reading on it. That explains my car charger. The delay happens no matter what I plug up, my iPad, wireless earphones cases, Pixel 4 XL, and now my 7 Pro. Seems like they're working as intended.
What is PPS Fast Charging, and What’s the Difference Between PD, QC, and PPS?
As the latest addition to the PD 3.0 standard, the PPS fast charging standard is the best charging technology for USB-C devices. Get a RAVPower PPS fast charger and power your devices in minutes!
blog.ravpower.com
Never noticed this with my OnePlus 9 charger (that's also a PPS charger). I'll have to look out for it next time.
MrBelter said:
When i plug my P7P in to an Anker Nano III the P7P vibrates 4 times about 10 seconds apart before charging commences normally, is this how a PPS charger negotiates with the phone or is there a problem be it the charger or the phone?
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Well, even if the charger fails to negotiate the PPS charging protocol, it would be still charing at minimum speed, usually the standard 5 Volts at around 1-2 Amps (depending on the charger/phone).
It seems like it's being interrupted for some reason. Unless you have the same issue with other chargers, I'm pretty sure it's the charger you're trying to use (Maybe even the cable).
MrBelter said:
When i plug my P7P in to an Anker Nano III the P7P vibrates 4 times about 10 seconds apart before charging commences normally, is this how a PPS charger negotiates with the phone or is there a problem be it the charger or the phone?
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I've noticed that recently with newer chargers, some even explicitly mention it on their pages.
I don't know why newer ones are doing this compared to older PPS chargers, speculating either lower cost for a charge control chip that instead has to reset between negotiations or it's intentional to solve bugs with devices that might not negotiate right unless the connection is reset.
Cheers for the answers everyone, if it wasn't for the regular nature of the handshake (for want of a better description) and then charging as you'd expect I'd say the charger is wonky (Anker Nano III) simply because it is brand new.
I have ordered a new cable just to rule that out all my old cables as well.
I must have more charging bricks knocking about than a charging brick shop but from what i can gather only the Nano III is a PPS one
Hopefully it is OK now and the new cable seems to have sorted it out but i guess i will see more in the coming days.
The cable i got is an Anker 643 (just for future reference) I have always used Anker cables so i must have had an iffy one.
Hi, i noticed that my phone wasn't fast charging, despite i have an anker that reaches 18w. What kind of charger can i buy that allow my pixel to have fast charge?
Yoshito93 said:
Hi, i noticed that my phone wasn't fast charging, despite i have an anker that reaches 18w. What kind of charger can i buy that allow my pixel to have fast charge?
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Any charger which can handle at least 23w. Anything over that(per port) will be useless.
Also the biggest gripe of the Pixel 7 series is not having rapid charging.
Thank you for the reply! I had to buy a new charger because mine was not compatible I guess. The phone didn't show up the "fast charging" indication and it took 2.20 hrs to charge from 30% to 100%.
The Anker Nano 3 is 30W, PD 3.0 and PPS this is the UK version but all other regions version have folding pins which make it super compact.

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