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Can't successfully hide root with magisk 18.1 for square reader app

I've been rooting my Android phones since about 2012, but today I got a point of sale card reader for my business and I'm not having any luck hiding root from the app (square reader app). The app wont work at all so I tried a number of options in magisk manager (magisk hide the app, hide magisk manager, enable core mode only) rebooting between each try and clearing the square reader app data and setting it up fresh each time, but still no luck
I tried to uninstall magisk but the app still didn't work. So I eventually flashed back to stock and got rid of magisk all together, now the app works but I don't have root...
I tried installing magisk again after I got the app to work and hiding root from the app before I opened it up again, but it still somehow knew the device was rooted
Can anyone suggest anything I haven't tried? Or is there an alternative to rooting the OnePlus 6 (other than magisk) and hiding root? I had a bit of a look around but didn't find anything.
Thanks

I had to go back to 18.0, heard 18.2 works as well.

qbanlinxx said:
I had to go back to 18.0, heard 18.2 works as well.
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Thanks for your reply. I tried with 18.0, damn, it still doesn't work, it still picks up that the phone is rooted
I tried the 18.2 canary build as well (18.2-e72c6685) no luck either
This app must be looking somewhere out of the ordinary for evidence of root in the phone

I have a bank application and facing the same problem. Hope someone can help us to make applications run by hiding the root
I think recent applications are looking for if knox security is tripped !! so in this case Magisk will not help

Ooohhh had to subscribe to this as I face the exact same issue!! Been trying to get my Square reader to work for a while with root and could never figure out how they are detecting root. Using Pixel XL here

Google changed something in Safety Net in play services, it passes, yet for me, google pay fails. That COULD be the issue, though I read 18.2 fixes that. Another option I helped a friend with is if it's detecting magisk itself via the files, culprit here was pokemon go.
Try opening your Magisk settings, the tick "hide magisk manager" clear the repo cache, and rename or delete the MagiskManager folder on the root of your storage. Reboot, clear data from the square app, and try again. Keep in mind, you have to unhide magisk to update it.

Skreelink said:
Google changed something in Safety Net in play services, it passes, yet for me, google pay fails. That COULD be the issue, though I read 18.2 fixes that. Another option I helped a friend with is if it's detecting magisk itself via the files, culprit here was pokemon go.
Try opening your Magisk settings, the tick "hide magisk manager" clear the repo cache, and rename or delete the MagiskManager folder on the root of your storage. Reboot, clear data from the square app, and try again. Keep in mind, you have to unhide magisk to update it.
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In my case, I dont think its detecting the files. The reason i say that is because I play Pokemon Go just fine with no issues. So whatever Square is doing, its something different then what PoGo is doing.

Idledev said:
In my case, I dont think its detecting the files. The reason i say that is because I play Pokemon Go just fine with no issues. So whatever Square is doing, its something different then what PoGo is doing.
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I agree, I have no problem hiding magisk and root from other apps, the square reader app must be somehow different. I've even gone through my storage and deleted any files or folders that might suggest the phone is rooted, but still no luck...
I also went into battery optimization settings to stop magisk from being put to sleep (which might stop magisk hide from working..?), that didn't work either.
I've found a temporary workaround to my problem anyway, I realized that I can share my internet (wifi hotspot) with my ipod touch, this way square reader works as the ipod touch isn't jailbroken or modified. It just means I have to carry around my ipod touch with me, which is a better trade off for me than having a stock, non root phone

Managed to get it working today! Upgraded my Pixel XL to the Android Q beta. By doing this, I had to run Magisk canary build. Installed square, enabled Magisk hide, rebooted and it worked fine! Not sure if the Android Q beta has anything to do with it,but give the canary builds of Magisk a try

Idledev said:
Managed to get it working today! Upgraded my Pixel XL to the Android Q beta. By doing this, I had to run Magisk canary build. Installed square, enabled Magisk hide, rebooted and it worked fine! Not sure if the Android Q beta has anything to do with it,but give the canary builds of Magisk a try
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That's awesome! What canary build did you use?
I tried the latest build a few weeks ago and it didn't work for me

Build 18120

Idledev said:
Build 18120
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No luck for me...
I updated to the latest canary build, cleared all data from square reader app, selected magisk hide, rebooted the device. After it booted up I tried to run it and it still detected root. I have a feeling that the OnePlus OS does something that doesn't totally allow me to hide root from the square reader app. It's annoying because for other apps root can be hidden
Maybe there's something in the Android Q build that lets you hide root better

Something that seems reliable right now on 18.1, Pixel Experience and OOS :
Combine Magisk Hide with Magisk "Core Mode". This seems to do the trick for now, Google Pay is triggered with normal mode, but works in Core Mode. Same for Snapchat and banking apps like N26.
But within this, you can't use any module.
kage00 said:
I also went into battery optimization settings to stop magisk from being put to sleep (which might stop magisk hide from working..?), that didn't work either.
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This is always a good idea, on OOS at least, Magisk being optimized sometimes prevents the granting of root rights to apps, it never reacts to kernel applications requesting root on startup for example.

There's an issue with Googlypay services apparently. You need to downgrade it (remove factory updates) so it's down to version 14.something and then it should work.
You need to disable admin rights and background data to try to prevent autoupdates as well. This thread may be useful?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...e-pay-magisk-discussion-t3906703/post79155616

DaveW1972 said:
There's an issue with Googlypay services apparently. You need to downgrade it (remove factory updates) so it's down to version 14.something and then it should work.
You need to disable admin rights and background data to try to prevent autoupdates as well. This thread may be useful?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...e-pay-magisk-discussion-t3906703/post79155616
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Hmm, I'm running the magisk xXx ROM and google pay is completely debloated/removed. when I get a spare half hour I might try removing the xXx module and flashing back to stock and following the advice in that thread. I'll let you know how it goes

kage00 said:
Hmm, I'm running the magisk xXx ROM and google pay is completely debloated/removed. when I get a spare half hour I might try removing the xXx module and flashing back to stock and following the advice in that thread. I'll let you know how it goes
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Ummm yeah.. then the problem doesn't lie within Google pay it lies within the modifications that you are using.
I have to say I have never had any issues with Google pay or Android pay or any banking app using magisk. I don't even have to hide anyting. Of course I'm also not using any modified ROMs or kernels either

Hi guys,
I have this issue for a couple years now and I just cannot find a solution!
Google Pay, and 4 banking app from two different countries work fine with my 1+6 (stock ROM OOS 9.0.9 with magisk 19.4 - 7.3.4) but Square does not.
Did anyone find a solution?
Magisk config:
Magisk hide
Two modules OOS phone record and youtube
No core mode
All banking app and Square hidden

Can I install SuperSU on the OnePlus 7 Pro?

Hi everyone,
I'm curious if anyone has gotten the SuperSU root method running on this phone. I know that magisk exists but snapchat has problems with magisk for some reason so I would prefer to use SuperSU instead. I already have the latest twrp installed if that helps at all. Flashing the SuperSU zip doesn't seem to do anything so I'm hoping somebody has figured this out already.
Thanks,
TomatoesOnBluRay

TomatoesOnBluRay said:
Hi everyone,
I'm curious if anyone has gotten the SuperSU root method running on this phone. I know that magisk exists but snapchat has problems with magisk for some reason so I would prefer to use SuperSU instead. I already have the latest twrp installed if that helps at all. Flashing the SuperSU zip doesn't seem to do anything so I'm hoping somebody has figured this out already.
Thanks,
TomatoesOnBluRay
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just realized i put this in guides instead of questions and answers. Is there a way to move it? Serious noob here.

Do not think anyone has used SuperSU in a few years really. What is wrong with Snapchat and rooted with Magisk?

Snapchat wont get along with Supersu either. At least you could try to hide Magisk from Snapchat

I'm abit curious now, why would you prefer having supersu when magisk works the same way but even better?

schmeggy929 said:
Do not think anyone has used SuperSU in a few years really. What is wrong with Snapchat and rooted with Magisk?
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it seems like supersu hasn't been updated in a couple years now, so you're absolutely correct. Snapchat keeps locking me out of my account for "using a third party app" even though I haven't been using a third party app. My guess is that it's detecting root somehow even when I have magisk hide enabled, magisk changed to manager, and xprivacylua restricting snapchat's access to files. I even tried using parallel space to copy snapchat into an isolated environment, but it doesn't even log in. It might have something to do with Oxygen OS, but I'm not sure. Although it's unlikely, I'm trying to see if there is a way to install SuperSU on this phone because I know snapchat works as it did on my old phone (if you log in before you root, of course). If it's not possible, I'll just have to figure something out.

TomatoesOnBluRay said:
it seems like supersu hasn't been updated in a couple years now, so you're absolutely correct. Snapchat keeps locking me out of my account for "using a third party app" even though I haven't been using a third party app. My guess is that it's detecting root somehow even when I have magisk hide enabled, magisk changed to manager, and xprivacylua restricting snapchat's access to files. I even tried using parallel space to copy snapchat into an isolated environment, but it doesn't even log in. It might have something to do with Oxygen OS, but I'm not sure. Although it's unlikely, I'm trying to see if there is a way to install SuperSU on this phone because I know snapchat works as it did on my old phone (if you log in before you root, of course). If it's not possible, I'll just have to figure something out.
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You need to Magisk hide Snapchat. Go to menu(top left, 3 lines) click Magisk Hide. Scroll to Snapchat and check it. Clear data for Snapchat. Log back in.

schmeggy929 said:
You need to Magisk hide Snapchat. Go to menu(top left, 3 lines) click Magisk Hide. Scroll to Snapchat and check it. Clear data for Snapchat. Log back in.
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I did this but it didn't work, it still locks my account. Snapchat seems to have some weird form of detection that can't be worked around.

TomatoesOnBluRay said:
I did this but it didn't work, it still locks my account. Snapchat seems to have some weird form of detection that can't be worked around.
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Weird, never had an issue with Snapchat and was always rooted.

I used to have the same issue with snapchat until I started using the Magisk Beta versions, since then I haven't had that issue at all. Which version of Magisk are you using?

TomatoesOnBluRay said:
I did this but it didn't work, it still locks my account. Snapchat seems to have some weird form of detection that can't be worked around.
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Get it up and running, create a backup with titanium and when you are on magisk, restore the data.
Thats how i used to do it when it wouldnt let me log in. But I havent had the issue for years with magisk. Ensure you are using the current and ensure you pass safety net.

Ad blocking

For the life of me I cannot block ads. I've tried adaway magisk modules and manually editing the hosts file. Only way Ive been able to do it is via VPN but I don't want to go that route.
It did work. Then I reset my phone and it now no longer works.
Any ideas?

miffymiffy said:
For the life of me I cannot block ads. I've tried adaway magisk modules and manually editing the hosts file. Only way Ive been able to do it is via VPN but I don't want to go that route.
It did work. Then I reset my phone and it now no longer works.
Any ideas?
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Have you tried systemless hosts in Magisk and then AdAway?

bp328i said:
Have you tried systemless hosts in Magisk and then AdAway?
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yeah, same thing. Still showing ads.
Ive used about 8 different versions of adaway too cos I know there were issues previously.

miffymiffy said:
yeah, same thing. Still showing ads.
Ive used about 8 different versions of adaway too cos I know there were issues previously.
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I'm using this version with no issues whatsoever. Not sure why it says that it was installed via the Google play Store...lol

Does anyone have Adaway running on Android 10?

Due to mounting issues with the current root solution on Android 10, Adaway doesn't seem to be able to either write to the hosts file or modify it. Has anyone found a solution?
Thanks....

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Due to mounting issues with the current root solution on Android 10, Adaway doesn't seem to be able to either write to the hosts file or modify it. Has anyone found a solution?
Thanks....
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Really? Mine is working exactly as in Pie. I am rooted with magisk 19.3 and have systemless hosts module installed. Adaway has no issue writing to this hosts file.

clcdev said:
Really? Mine is working exactly as in Pie. I am rooted with magisk 19.3 and have systemless hosts module installed. Adaway has no issue writing to this hosts file.
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Thanks! Got it working. There is no module any longer, as it is a setting in the app itself - a setting which you just tap with no dialog, only a "toasted" confirmation.

floepie said:
Thanks! Got it working. There is no module any longer, as it is a setting in the app itself - a setting which you just tap with no dialog, only a "toasted" confirmation.
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When I click that checkbox, I got the confirmation on the bottom that says Adaway was granted Superuser rights, but the box doesn't actually check, and nothing changes. Am I missing something stupid?

Go to setting in magisk and enable this module, restart, and then adaway should work.

I've tried that. Got all messages showing up that it's fine. Rebooted and still see ads in certain pages.
Unfortunately best solution thus far is the AdGuard app but that's VPN and draining juice.

wbgenetic said:
I've tried that. Got all messages showing up that it's fine. Rebooted and still see ads in certain pages.
Unfortunately best solution thus far is the AdGuard app but that's VPN and draining juice.
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Just to make sure; you also checked the systemless mode in AdAway?
(after reboot to enable magisk systemless module)
If it blocks most ads you may want to add another hosts source.

Mother_Teresa said:
Just to make sure; you also checked the systemless mode in AdAway?
(after reboot to enable magisk systemless module)
If it blocks most ads you may want to add another hosts source.
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I have the same problem. Pixel 2 XL, Android 10. Magisk works, safetynet works. Adaway doesn't. The systemless hosts module in magisk shows as enabled, the tick box on adaway doesn't work (when I tap it nothing happens). When I select enable adblocking in Adaway it starts building the hosts file and ends with an error message "remount failed. Remounting the partition as read/write failed!".

airmark said:
I have the same problem. Pixel 2 XL, Android 10. Magisk works, safetynet works. Adaway doesn't. The systemless hosts module in magisk shows as enabled, the tick box on adaway doesn't work (when I tap it nothing happens). When I select enable adblocking in Adaway it starts building the hosts file and ends with an error message "remount failed. Remounting the partition as read/write failed!".
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Are you using the latest AdAway? Maybe you need to update the app itself.

Hmmm can I add other stuff to the hosts file? Sort of like easy lists for different languages like adblocker on chrome for PC? This might do the trick if possible.

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Are you using the latest AdAway? Maybe you need to update the app itself.
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Version 4.2.9. F-droid says it's the latest

wbgenetic said:
Hmmm can I add other stuff to the hosts file? Sort of like easy lists for different languages like adblocker on chrome for PC? This might do the trick if possible.
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Yes, checks settings
So most ads get blocked but not all?
adaway forum to get latest version and gossip.

I also had issues getting AdAway running on Android 10, but managed to get it going eventually. I had the same issues as the others: "Enable systemless mode" checkbox was "toasting" but not checking in AdAway, despite tapping the "Systemless hosts" item in Magisk and getting successful-looking toast notifications.
Steps that worked for me:
Take note of any settings you have in AdAway, as they are about to go away
Completely uninstall AdAway. This means Force Stop, Clear Cache, Clear Data, then Uninstall
Reboot
Open Magisk Manager --> Settings --> Tab the "Systemless hosts" item. You should get the toast notification.
Install the latest version of AdAway (v4.2.9 as of now, as others have mentioned)
Open AdAway --> Preferences. With luck, you'll see that Enable systemless mode is checked already (pretty sure mine was). If not...maybe try checking it now.
AdAway should work now. Make sure to poke around and add back any customizations you used to have.
Hope that helps!

I stopped using adaway in favor of DNS66 for about two years now. Might be worth a shot if you're still having issues with Adaway
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.jak_linux.dns66/

HypromanGT said:
I also had issues getting AdAway running on Android 10, but managed to get it going eventually. I had the same issues as the others: "Enable systemless mode" checkbox was "toasting" but not checking in AdAway, despite tapping the "Systemless hosts" item in Magisk and getting successful-looking toast notifications.
Steps that worked for me:
Take note of any settings you have in AdAway, as they are about to go away
Completely uninstall AdAway. This means Force Stop, Clear Cache, Clear Data, then Uninstall
Reboot
Open Magisk Manager --> Settings --> Tab the "Systemless hosts" item. You should get the toast notification.
Install the latest version of AdAway (v4.2.9 as of now, as others have mentioned)
Open AdAway --> Preferences. With luck, you'll see that Enable systemless mode is checked already (pretty sure mine was). If not...maybe try checking it now.
AdAway should work now. Make sure to poke around and add back any customizations you used to have.
Hope that helps!
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FIXED : Did same twice didn't work untill i gave permission of storage to the app before launching it

driss.sadok said:
FIXED : Did same twice didn't work untill i gave permission of storage to the app before launching it
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I have done step by step and doesnt work, i've got android 9, but it doesnt metter still cant make it work. Root works, hosts i've checked with file menager is also full, updated sources. Checked with 3 browsers and i still see alot of ads...

smile20 said:
I have done step by step and doesnt work, i've got android 9, but it doesnt metter still cant make it work. Root works, hosts i've checked with file menager is also full, updated sources. Checked with 3 browsers and i still see alot of ads...
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have you enabled systemless hosts in magisk?

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have you enabled systemless hosts in magisk?
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Yes, in magisk manager, restarted system, then installed adaway, gave permission to storage before first turn on, then checked systemless host setting in Adaway menu, but it was already on, downloaded sources, restarted system and now it supposed to wotk, but it doesn....There was just one reason i've rooted system, and it doesnt work...

Try enabling the hosts before installing adaway. Are you using the fdroid version?

gvsukids said:
Try enabling the hosts before installing adaway. Are you using the fdroid version?
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This is how i've done . First enabled in magisk manager, then installed Adaway. I've downloaded direct Adaway apk from frdroid site.

Android 10 app questions

I'm looking for some substratton themes for Android 10 and also how to enable tethering as I couldn't edit the build prop. Also ad+away doesn't work. Ad-away needs asymlink, but upon reboot it's gone. Just like viper4 Android always has to reinstall driver.

gvsukids said:
I'm looking for some substratton themes for Android 10 and also how to enable tethering as I couldn't edit the build prop. Also ad+away doesn't work
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Substratum themes I have no idea. Tethering - try this method. I used it on my wife Pixel 3 (my 3XL is on a custom, ROM so no 10 yet) after updating to 10, and it worked and showed no tethering usage on my T-Mobile account. I was only one for a while, but I checked usage a couple of days later even and saw none. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/how-to-native-tethering-rooted-pixel-3-t3858662 Step 4 should be code 5, but the post was created before the props config module was updated. For AdAway, you will need to get the systemless AdAway either from f-droid or XDA depending which version you currently have installed (since the app signatures are different and you can't update from one to the other) and install the systemless hosts "module" in Magisk Manager (it is a module but it shows as an option in settings).

sliding_billy said:
Substratum themes I have no idea. Tethering - try this method. I used it on my wife Pixel 3 (my 3XL is on a custom, ROM so no 10 yet) after updating to 10, and it worked and showed no tethering usage on my T-Mobile account. I was only one for a while, but I checked usage a couple of days later even and saw none. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/how-to-native-tethering-rooted-pixel-3-t3858662 Step 4 should be code 5, but the post was created before the props config module was updated. For AdAway, you will need to get the systemless AdAway either from f-droid or XDA depending which version you currently have installed (since the app signatures are different and you can't update from one to the other) and install the systemless hosts "module" in Magisk Manager (it is a module but it shows as an option in settings).
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The XDA one worked, Fdroid didn't.

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The XDA one worked, Fdroid didn't.
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Good deal.

sliding_billy said:
Substratum themes I have no idea. Tethering - try this method. I used it on my wife Pixel 3 (my 3XL is on a custom, ROM so no 10 yet) after updating to 10, and it worked and showed no tethering usage on my T-Mobile account. I was only one for a while, but I checked usage a couple of days later even and saw none. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/how-to-native-tethering-rooted-pixel-3-t3858662 Step 4 should be code 5, but the post was created before the props config module was updated. For AdAway, you will need to get the systemless AdAway either from f-droid or XDA depending which version you currently have installed (since the app signatures are different and you can't update from one to the other) and install the systemless hosts "module" in Magisk Manager (it is a module but it shows as an option in settings).
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Did you have to install BusyBox? Installing the magisk module allowed the build prop to be edited and also allowed the f Droid adaway to be installed over the older version from XDA.

gvsukids said:
Did you have to install BusyBox? Installing the magisk moduleallowed the build prop to be edited and also allowed the f Droid adaway to be installed over the older version from XDA.
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I didn't specifically install BusyBox for the custom prop tethering fix, but I already had it on my phone. Speaking of which, I just did a full flash of my 3 XL yesterday to the new .c3 build of Android 10. Once again, tethering worked fine and I see no minuted bulled as tethering on my account usage.

I've been using Swift installer for theming and it looks really nice. I haven't used their substratum themes but I imagine they would be the same.