For those on Verizon, I urge you to consider the A51 5G UW instead of the A51, even if you don't need 5G. I've helped several people setup their A51's and this has to be the slowest, buggiest phone I've used in awhile. Having also worked with the upgraded versions, I can tell you the difference between the Snapdragon 765G on the 5G UW and the Exynos on the 4G is huge. Also the 6 GB helps a lot for multitasking and games. Many people are looking for a solid affordable mid range phone, and I can say hands down the 5G UW model is worth the extra money. If you can get a deal, the S20 FE offers flagship level performance for slightly more.
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Hi all,
I am waffling on the Note 10 plus vs the Note 10 plus 5g vs the S10 5g. I am not seeing much to differentiate them (an FM radio here, headphone there). One of my biggest drivers (now that dex is on all) is on battery life.
My carrier charges the same rate for both the Note 10+ and Note 10+ 5G. As 5G service isn't widely available yet, i more or less discount the 5g-ability. As I expect to hold the phone for 2 years, there is some hope that will change but I don't find it a strong differentiator.
Does anybody know whether I should expect extra battery drain from the 5g chipset? If the battery life will be lower at all on the 5G, i will prefer the 4g only version.
Anyway, happy for anybody's thoughts on whether there is any battery drain expected from the 5g radio (or anything that would make you prefer one or the other of the major samsung phones right now).
Thanks
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I bought one for a family member. I ha e s21 ultra. I think the a52 is a fantastic device. It hardly feels any different to my s21. A few things missing (dex, wireless charging, 100 million x useless zoom etc). For $350 it's outstanding.
To be frank, I was close to chose A52 over S20 FE but S20 FE just head the things that were more important to me and at a given price, the best choice.
However, as someone who used A50 for the last two years, I would recommend anyone to go with A52, rather than A70+ (whatever people say, A50s get much bigger improvement and power with each version than A70s which are more expensive for less gain)
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To be frank, I was close to chose A52 over S20 FE but S20 FE just head the things that were more important to me and at a given price, the best choice.
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I was also choosing between the A52 and the S20 FE.
Picked the A52, it came down to four things:
Price, I could comfortably afford the S20 FE 4G max.
SoC, S720G is weaker compared to the Exynos but it's not as dramatic of a difference as with the S720G vs the S855 or S865 and it's way more battery efficient.
S20 FE's digitizer issues, I'm not spending that much money to have a subpar experience with ghost touches.
Software support, the A52 just launched with Android 11, it'll get one more Android version and a year more of security updates.
I also went for the A52 LTE, I don't care about 5G and the SoC difference wasn't nearly enough to justify the extra cost of the A52 5G.
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I was also choosing between the A52 and the S20 FE.
Picked the A52, it came down to four things:
Price, I could comfortably afford the S20 FE 4G max.
SoC, S720G is weaker compared to the Exynos but it's not as dramatic of a difference as with the S720G vs the S855 or S865 and it's way more battery efficient.
S20 FE's digitizer issues, I'm not spending that much money to have a subpar experience with ghost touches.
Software support, the A52 just launched with Android 11, it'll get one more Android version and a year more of security updates.
I also went for the A52 LTE, I don't care about 5G and the SoC difference wasn't nearly enough to justify the extra cost of the A52 5G.
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The thing is, I don't care about SoC Exynos990 does more than a fine job for me (including gaming, some of which are demanding games, with barely any noticeable difference in performance ) , battery is holding off the entire day which is another thing that is more than enough, considering everything.
Digitizer issues never experienced, as far as I am concerned those are defects a few units had and the majority didn't.
I am not getting hung up on Android OS, since it's covered 3 versions (until android 13), which by that time I will be replacing the phone anyways, with an upgraded model. Or in case I don't for some reason, there will be polished and much better kernel optimized custom roms on XDA that will likely keep up to the latest Android version.
And I had a chance to test A52 in comparison to my choice, guess what? S20 FE 4G just fairs much better, despite so-called subpar SoC and etc in every area. (not benchmarks and etc, the actual real experience). And as for security updates, they will be roll out as part of Google play OS upgrades, pushed from Google mainstream pipeline, so you will never have to worry about security upgrades - even if we don't get major OS updates past 3 Android versions, security updates are no brainer
There is however caveat to all of this. A52 is an incredible budget phone that I would recommend to everyone who is on the verge of buying (especially for those who are upgrading from A50-51). It cuts pretty close to high end model for really affordable price
My carrier just messaged me about their offer for all new Galaxy S22 models with 200€ off from the retail price for S22/S22+ and 250€ off for the S22 Ultra + free Galaxy Buds Pros. With this the S22 Ultra 128GB 5G model would be 1049€, 256GB 5G model 1149€ and the 512GB 5G model 1249€ (all of these are available for interest free payments up to 3 years and the phones are not being bootloader/carrier locked). Is this actually a good offer or should I pass it given that I live in the EU and the model I would get is going to be Exynos 2200 device anyway (which is most likely going to be not as good as the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 variant)?
Hard to say with zero user feedback. Samsung has been having issues with many of their variable rate displays as are most of the manufacturers using this technology.
Right off the get there's no SD card so you better get the 512gb variant. The spen is in an awkward side unless you're a lefty.
You might want the larger Plus size if you want screen real estate to play with.
The Snapdragon question and what the heat sink differences might be if any will be only fully answered in the future.
Samsung should have another flagship release this fall. Personally the S22U isn't giving me any tangible incentives to own it over my N10+'s. Not even a wash; the tradeoffs outweigh the benefits for me.
The N20U was a close and tougher call to make.
2023 may be a better year to buy. I'm pacing it for 2023-2024 if I like what I see.
Both the N10+ and the N20U can be had at good prices. Used and new ones are available but be careful if you do as there's a lot of scamming is going on. The N10+ is still a great phone and both these Notes support up to 1tb of V30 rated storage. The new N10+'s come loaded with 10, the N20U's likely 11. I'm not concerned with updates but if you are factor that in; the N10+'s limit is Android 12, the N20U's is 13 maybe 14(?) I think.
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My carrier just messaged me about their offer for all new Galaxy S22 models with 200€ off from the retail price for S22/S22+ and 250€ off for the S22 Ultra + free Galaxy Buds Pros. With this the S22 Ultra 128GB 5G model would be 1049€, 256GB 5G model 1149€ and the 512GB 5G model 1249€ (all of these are available for interest free payments up to 3 years and the phones are not being bootloader/carrier locked). Is this actually a good offer or should I pass it given that I live in the EU and the model I would get is going to be Exynos 2200 device anyway (which is most likely going to be not as good as the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 variant)?
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I would say it depends on which device you come from.. If you currently have a Note 20 Ultra or S21 Ultra, I would wait a bit before committing. Last year I actually went from Note 20 Ultra to S21 Ultra (I know, stupid), and I regretted it at first but then loved it. If you are coming from an older device, then yeah go for it.
I came across with two tests today comparing the both processors. Though some people would be interested. I would also like to see the both phones users confirming the results on their side. 3DMark Wild Life scores on the other hand are a bit disappointing for Exynos. I have currently ordered an Exynos version and still have time to cancel it. What would you recommend?
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I came across with two tests today comparing the both processors. Though some people would be interested. I would also like to see the both phones users confirming the results on their side. 3DMark Wild Life scores on the other hand are a bit disappointing for Exynos. I have currently ordered an Exynos version and still have time to cancel it. What would you recommend?
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I would definitely keep your order running.
I had both versions of the S21 ultra.
Im not playing games, but use my phones a lot... And to be honest, i couldn't feel or see any difference.
I pre-order the S22 ultra to in the Exynos version without any concerns vs the SD version.
I have the Tab S7 to and never had any problems.
This is just my humble opinion
Per Tom's Hardware:
Ice Universe says that the AMD RNDA2 GPU part of the Exynos SoC has a target clock speed of 1.9 GHz. However, in practice, due to thermal issues, it could only run at 1.29 GHz, in an acceptable manner. Various clocks between 1.29 GHz and 1.9 GHz were tested, goes the tale, but the lesser speed was the first with acceptable thermals. The actual temperatures are not revealed, instead we learn that all for speeds greater than 1.29 GHz, they are "hot".
Ice Universe has some further interesting info about what Samsung is trying now that it has hit that thermal throttling performance wall. According to Ice Universe's leak, Samsung is going to try and tweak things to get the GPU running acceptably at 1.49GHz "to restore some dignity".
I've used both of them and based on my experience, Snapdragon is always better. It gives you stable performance and often supports bootloader unlocking.
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I've used both of them and based on my experience, Snapdragon is always better. It gives you stable performance and often supports bootloader unlocking.
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"Snapdragon often supports bootloader unlocking" Not on S Series devices, much wider availability on Exynos variants. Only one Snapdragon variant offered bootloader access on the S21 Ultra, SM-G9980.
You would find More developers working on snap dragon than Exynos to bring custom ROMS. If you see devices such as Poco F1, OnePlus 8T and X3 Pro you would find almost every custom from working on them.
This is a S22 Ultra Forum, we're not discussing a bunch of cheap Chinese phones nor is the OP asking questions about them. What does your response have do with the unlocked bootloaders on S Series variants? Exynos devices have far more development and custom ROM's on S Series than Snapdragon. In reality development is declining with Samsung devices, Android 12 and OneUI 4 has made it far more challenging to implement custom platforms.
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I came across with two tests today comparing the both processors. Though some people would be interested. I would also like to see the both phones users confirming the results on their side. 3DMark Wild Life scores on the other hand are a bit disappointing for Exynos. I have currently ordered an Exynos version and still have time to cancel it. What would you recommend?
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Since you've ordered a Exynos equipped device I assume you're in Europe or the UK, correct? So your Service Provider can only enable all their Call Features (5G, Carrier Aggregation and the rest) if you have a Exynos Chipset and their branded phone or possibly the unlocked device. How valuable are those features to you? For me it's a no brainer, I would only aquire the Snapdragon SoC no matter where I lived "if" I wanted the device, which I don't. The more that is made public, the less confidence I have in the S22 Ultra, particularly the Exynos version. Honestly, if someone gave one to me for free, I'd give it back.
Thanks for the replies. I've found this on youtube and it shows that the performance of Exynos 2100 has been improved / optimised in time and caught up with SD so decided to keep Exynos version.
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Thanks for the replies. I've found this on youtube and it shows that the performance of Exynos 2100 has been improved / optimised in time and caught up with SD so decided to keep Exynos version.
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That's the S21 Exynos SoC. The S32 Ultra has a Exynos 2200 Chipset which has been totally redesigned.
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That's the S21 Exynos SoC. The S32 Ultra has a Exynos 2200 Chipset which has been totally redesigned.
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Yes I'm aware of it. I shared it as a reference of how Samsung support Exynos 2100 in time and improved it's performance. So Exynos 2200 might have a lower score against SD at the moment but it's performance will be improved in time too.
As a budget phone owner who’s not looking to spend more than $300 (or $400 at most) on a new device, it was with great interest that I saw the recent release of the Samsung Galaxy A23 5G. It has good specs for its price and it seems like it would be a very decent phone all around. So it was with great dismay that I noticed the overall size of the phone... 6.5 inches from top to bottom. Once again...
Is it just me, or is there a significant group of phone owners out there who want phones that actually fit into smaller pockets, don't fatigue the hands, and can be used with one hand when needed? I want a phone, not a tablet or a “phablet”!
When it comes to its S-series, Samsung releases a small version each year, along with a bigger sized “Pro” version, and an even bigger “Ultra” version. But when it comes to the A-series phones, almost every single one of them is bigger than the S22 Ultra! In the recent American A-series model lineup, this applies to the A02s, A03s, A12, A13 5G, A23 5G, A32 5G, and A42 5G, with only the A52 5G and A53 5G being slightly smaller at 6.3 inches. And the S21 FE is only slightly cheaper than the S22. Way above a budget price.
I can’t be the only one who wishes that there were some A-series budget phones whose sizes were similar to the 5.75 inch Galaxy S22, or at least under 6 inches from top to bottom. I was even considering the (6 inch) Pixel 6a until seeing the many reports of its overheating and network connectivity drop issues.
Just as a practical example, Samsung can make a Galaxy "A23s" 5G which can have the same Snapdragon 695 chip as the regular A23 5G. Just the overall phone size (and battery if necessary) will be smaller.
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In light of the above, I call on anyone who would also like such phones to call Samsung’s sales department at 1-855-726-8721 and politely request that they start making such devices, and explain that they will attract many compact phone buyers who can’t afford to shell out $700 or $800, but would be very interested in getting a Samsung A-series phone if only there were smaller options available, just like there is in the S-series.
If Samsung sees that there’s a big enough demand for it, they will start producing such phones so as to reap the earnings from this new customer base!
Please share this page and spread the word far and wide, so that we can get as many people as possible to effectuate this change!
P.S. Leave a comment with any additional ideas that you think may help the cause.