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i am aware you can deploy up to 10 developers apps on each windows device. i have successfully deployed 2 apps but when i got to deploy the 3rd it tells me i have reached the maximum number of developers apps. if i remove one of the apps i currently have installed i can deploy another one. but i need to be able to deploy more than one app at once. is there anyway for me to check the current apps deployed. also if i cannot do this is there anyway for me to delete all developer apps currently installed without deleting every app i have installed.
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i am aware you can deploy up to 10 developers apps on each windows device. i have successfully deployed 2 apps but when i got to deploy the 3rd it tells me i have reached the maximum number of developers apps. if i remove one of the apps i currently have installed i can deploy another one. but i need to be able to deploy more than one app at once. is there anyway for me to check the current apps deployed. also if i cannot do this is there anyway for me to delete all developer apps currently installed without deleting every app i have installed.
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As far as I know you could long-tap on an app and see if it gives you the option to give it a rating. If yes, then it's an app you installed. If not it's either a sideloaded appor a system app (such as music+video and maps). I hope this helps
THIS DOC IS NO LONGER ACTIVELY MAINTAINED!
Sorry for this, but real life took over and managed to take so much of my time up that I’m no longer able to verify and test stuff on my own. Besides, since Android Wear 6 a lot of things changed and I’d have to test all of these apps again.
Greetings dear Android Wear users!
Today I got my LG G Watch and I'm just amazed by the capabilities of that watch so I thought I'd create a list of all working sideloaded apps.
For everyone who doesn't know: Sideloaded Apps are .apk files installed directly to the watch via ADB.
Since Android Wear is technically the same and the specs for every watch are also kind of in the same range this list will most likely apply to your own Android Wear watch too, even when it's not an LG G Watch.
Please report any weird behaviors here with the keywords mentioned below to make things easier for me to search and add to the list.
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Useful Links:
Apps2Wear - Directly install APKs onto your watch via your SmartPhone
How to Sideload Apps onto your Android Wear device (YouTube)
Easily download any APK file directly from the Google Playstore
Easily launch apps from your watch
Un/Install Android Wear apps (Google Docs)
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The list of all sideloaded apps working on Android Wear can be found on Google Docs (to make things more simple for me to update).
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CLICK HERE TO SEE THE LIST (Google Docs)
Will be updated over time
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Want to help?
If you want to help making this list bigger and better please write the following keywords into your reply/report so I can find things easier and faster:
"Tested & Working" - App install works and application is running and starts without a force-close.
"Tested & Crashing" - App installed but crashes/force-closes at start up.
"Tested & Report" - App installed and runs fine but is unusable (e.g. GUI is too big, example would be Temple Run 2)
This makes my work a whole lot easier and my thankfulness for you even bigger
And now: Have fun testing!
Can you make to work the SwiftKey and WhatsApp in a smart watch?
iannolsen said:
Can you make to work the SwiftKey and WhatsApp in a smart watch?
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Probably not SwiftKey (minuum is probably best suited to wear anyway), and definitely not WhatsApp. If you look at the guide by Corbin Davinport on pushing APKs to android wear, he says that he found that apps that require internet connection do not work. Therefor, WhatsApp wont be able to directly connect, as you would design the app so that it works through the devices Bluetooth connection to connect to the internet. However, I believe the developer of Wear Messenger has an app that lets you access WhatsApp through text messages, which then allows you to use WhatsApp from wear messenger.
The second point of this post is directed at OP,
In the google docs, it lists "Don't tap the white tile" as partially working and intermittently crashing in certain game modes. Once again referring to the guide by Corbin, the crashes arise whenever the app try's to show an ad. If you go into the settings and disable banner ads and only allow popups, you can get to the end of the game without the app crashing. It probably will crash at the end though if it tries to show an ad as this tries to connect to the internet, and that causes apps on wear to crash. One would probably be able to fix this by decompiling and recompiling the application to remove ads.
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Probably not SwiftKey (minuum is probably best suited to wear anyway), and definitely not WhatsApp. If you look at the guide by Corbin Davinport on pushing APKs to android wear, he says that he found that apps that require internet connection do not work. Therefor, WhatsApp wont be able to directly connect, as you would design the app so that it works through the devices Bluetooth connection to connect to the internet. However, I believe the developer of Wear Messenger has an app that lets you access WhatsApp through text messages, which then allows you to use WhatsApp from wear messenger.
The second point of this post is directed at OP,
In the google docs, it lists "Don't tap the white tile" as partially working and intermittently crashing in certain game modes. Once again referring to the guide by Corbin, the crashes arise whenever the app try's to show an ad. If you go into the settings and disable banner ads and only allow popups, you can get to the end of the game without the app crashing. It probably will crash at the end though if it tries to show an ad as this tries to connect to the internet, and that causes apps on wear to crash. One would probably be able to fix this by decompiling and recompiling the application to remove ads.
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Hey, thanks for this tip! Will correct it as soon as I'm in the office again
That guide I know, even know the guy who made it. I'll probably create a tiny little program which will make pushing, installing and initializing the connection easier.
Sent from my Xperia Z1 Compact via XDA mobile app
EpicLPer said:
Hey, thanks for this tip! Will correct it as soon as I'm in the office again
That guide I know, even know the guy who made it. I'll probably create a tiny little program which will make pushing, installing and initializing the connection easier.
Sent from my Xperia Z1 Compact via XDA mobile app
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That would be incredibly handy if you made that, I am surprised no one has so far.
Maybe one to add to the list would be Es3, its handy having a file manager on the device.
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That would be incredibly handy if you made that, I am surprised no one has so far.
Maybe one to add to the list would be Es3, its handy having a file manager on the device.
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Well I tested ES File Explorer (if you mean that) and it's pretty well useable actually but some parts would require a back-button sadly. Means via ADB faking a key input.
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EpicLPer said:
Well I tested ES File Explorer (if you mean that) and it's pretty well useable actually but some parts would require a back-button sadly. Means via ADB faking a key input.
Sent from my Xperia Z1 Compact via XDA mobile app
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Yep thats what I mean, strange that that happens, I haven't had any issues with needing to get back. Swiping from the centre of the screen to the right has gone back for me in all of the menus :s
Anyway to get c25k free or Nike running app working?
I will let you use many more apps on your wear device
hi,
for information i'm the developer of a companion app for android smartwatch.
SWApp Link
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/108675494963196634299
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.preiss.swapps.link
Since yesterday i'm working on adapting it for wear.
Besides it's own feature, it has a specific feature that could make many more apps working on wear: it has a remote clipboard feature that allow to set the clipboard on the wear device from your phone.
They are many apps that don't work on the wear because they need text entry: this would allow you to type the needed text on your phone and paste it in those apps.
Cyril
cyrilp said:
hi,
for information i'm the developer of a companion app for android smartwatch.
SWApp Link
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/108675494963196634299
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.preiss.swapps.link
Since yesterday i'm working on adapting it for wear.
Besides it's own feature, it has a specific feature that could make many more apps working on wear: it has a remote clipboard feature that allow to set the clipboard on the wear device from your phone.
They are many apps that don't work on the wear because they need text entry: this would allow you to type the needed text on your phone and paste it in those apps.
Cyril
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Wow, awesome! This would make such things far easier
Sent from my Xperia Z1 Compact via XDA mobile app
"Tested & Crashing" All in one Gestures
"Tested & Crashing" All in one Gestures
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phoenixstudios.aiogestures
tonydd said:
Anyway to get c25k free or Nike running app working?
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Nike wouldn't side load but c25k free did but never worked. Still looking for comparable running app.
Nokia Here maps works offline on watch, but only Sony smart watch has GPS atm. And change of density required to be able to start navigation.
I tested Terminal emulator and it is working well with minuun keyboard.
So far I have the following sideloaded and working on an LG G Watch
NES-FC Lite (NES Emulator)
QQplayer (video player WITH BLUETOOTH SOUND!)
ES File Explorer
Astro Bluetooth Module (to transfer files from phone->watch)
v1_Bluetooth_Arduino (to control my garage door connected to an arduino/BT Shield)
wolfebaine said:
So far I have the following sideloaded and working on an LG G Watch
NES-FC Lite (NES Emulator)
QQplayer (video player WITH BLUETOOTH SOUND!)
ES File Explorer
Astro Bluetooth Module (to transfer files from phone->watch)
v1_Bluetooth_Arduino (to control my garage door connected to an arduino/BT Shield)
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Thanks! Added
cyrilp said:
"Tested & Crashing" All in one Gestures
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phoenixstudios.aiogestures
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Added but can you please tell me which Watch you used?
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Added but can you please tell me which Watch you used?
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sure: LG G W R
Just got my LG Watch G and I tested all sorts of apps after installing the "Ghoma rom", below are some of the apps not on the list I tried.
Tested & Working
Retry
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rovio.retry&hl=en
Game complains about missing Google Play Services but if you "ok" the prompt the game will load and seems to be fully playable. The built in "ad" button that opens a ad to view and earn coins does not work. You must earn coins the hard way in game.
EDIT: The game seems to be usable once every boot, in my case I had to reboot the watch to play the game again.
Tested & Report
Speedtest.net
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.zwanoo.android.speedtest&hl=en
The app loads but doesn't do anything because there isn't system wide internet access.
Tested & Crashing
Youtube
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.youtube&hl=en
Crashes and fails to load anything.
Keepass2Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=keepass2android.keepass2android&hl=en
There are two versions of this app, regluar and offline. I tested the regular one and it crashes and fails to load anything.
8-ball Pool
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.miniclip.eightballpool&hl=en
Crashes and fails to load anything.
NHK World TV Live
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.nhkworldtv.android&hl=en
Starts to load but crashes complaining about internet access.
Starbucks
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.starbucks.mobilecard&hl=en
Crashes and fails to load anything.
ICE
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.queader.ice&hl=en
The game doesn't even seem to try loading, no crash message. But it causes the screen to rotate till it silently crashes in the background.
Angry Birds Friends
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rovio.angrybirdsfriends&hl=en
Loads to a black screen and just sits there. Required putting the watch to sleep with the palm gesture to exit.
2FA apps
Was disappointed to see these crash on start:
Google Authenticator
RSA SecureID
Not really surprised, but it would have been nice
babelmonk
Hi guys. Now that we have root for the 2017 fire tablet HD, let's share the best apps, tweaks, mods, modules, optimizations etc to get the most out of the tablet.
I just rooted my HD 10 and think this thread is a great idea.
The first thing I usually do after getting root is to install AdAway to block most ads:
https://f-droid.org/repo/org.adaway_56.apk
I want use Nova as the default launcher. Is there a way to disable or uninstall the Fire launcher completely with root? The Hijackthis utility kind of works, but once in a while the Fire launcher will still show when pressing the home button.
Update: I found out how to disable the Fire launcher following the instructions from this thread here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/development/tips-tricks-root-t3310569
It appears that many of the tips for the older gen HD 10 tablets also apply to the 2017 model. The thread I mentioned in my previous post has instructions on how to disable Fire launcher and Amazon service that are safe to disable via adb. Also I recommend installing Google Play and disabling OTA services using the script in this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tool-disables-ota-lockscreen-install-t3715320
I also installed some of my favorite root apps such as Titanium Backup and Kernel Adiutor. Also grabbed modded Youtube with no ads (non-root) here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71133073&postcount=3
How do we disable all Amazon apps that aren't necessary to get the fastest, smoothest user experience?
Is there a way to change the lock screen and replace it with one that supports pattern unlock instead of a PIN?
Is there a way to permanently disable all Amazon system apps that may launch at startup and run in the background? I want to disable them to get maximum speed and performance from the device. Maybe what we could do is find an app that shows us what's currently running in the background and using up ram, and then figure out a way to permanently disable and or Uninstall them.
These are the system processes that I found running. There are quite a few Amazon-related processes here. Have a look.
The Amazon-related process that I've identified are:
Wake Word Service
System UI
Amazon Metrics Server Application
Fire Content Manager Service
Here Positioning
Precog
Identity mobile platform
Fire Amazon platform
Fire Amazon communication services
Audio stream provider service
Amazon webview metric services
Whisperplay daemon
Documents
Content support manager
Amazon device settings
Crash monitor
Documents
Read the posts in this thread (started by DragonFire1024) to get an idea about what can (not) be uninstalled.
We just gained root, and we do not yet have a reliable method to backup/restore partitions. I would urge you to err on the side of caution and, if you really have to, just control the apps that autorun. You can use the startup manager in ROM Toolbox Lite or All-In-One Toolbox to find out what's running at boot.
Before you start, backup your apps+data using TiBu.
Have you tested the recovery procedure detailed in this post? What's your fallback option if your 10 HD gets bricked? All things considered, a reasonably snappy tablet running some bloat is better than a brick you can't recover from.
These are the apps that I currently have installed on my fire tablet. Feel free to share your apps, too!
Guys,
So I'm using the free version of nova launcher, and one thing that I don't like is that I don't get app notifications. For example, if I get a like on Facebook or a message on Facebook messenger, there's no notification alerting you. Usually you'd see like a "1" on the app icon signaling that there's one new message. Apparently that's because I'm using the free version of nova launcher and the paid version has this functionality built in. I don't want to buy the paid version only to have it not work. Can anyone confirm that the paid version of nova launcher will give me notifications on the app icons, or is this just not supported on fire OS?
*UPDATE*
I think these things are called "badges".
I have rooted my Fire HD 10 2017, installed SuperSU and now of course it does not pass safety net anymore
As I was playing some games from Google Play on the tab, this kind of annoys me, but is no dealbreaker at all.
Has anybody made some experience with hiding root / magisk or something else on the Fire HD 10?
i had posted this information on the main 'rooted fire hd 10 7th generation' thread already but thought it was quite useful regarding nova launcher, playstore and using a child profle:
if you want to use use widgets with nova launcher, just convert nova to a system app. the easiest way i found to achieve this is using the link2sd app.
to use google playstore in a different user profile (e.g. parent profile with child restrictions, as i don't like the freetime child profile) you can also convert playstore to a system app (and clear dalvik dalvik cache,also with link2sd). it showed up in the fire launcher on the other profile right after a reboot. just needed to log in again.
maybe you can use it on a freetime profile as well like that (launch it from GoToApp), but i won't try it out now.
androingo said:
i had posted this information on the main 'rooted fire hd 10 7th generation' thread already but thought it was quite useful regarding nova launcher, playstore and using a child profle:
if you want to use use widgets with nova launcher, just convert nova to a system app. the easiest way i found to achieve this is using the link2sd app.
to use google playstore in a different user profile (e.g. parent profile with child restrictions, as i don't like the freetime child profile) you can also convert playstore to a system app (and clear dalvik dalvik cache,also with link2sd). it showed up in the fire launcher on the other profile right after a reboot. just needed to log in again.
maybe you can use it on a freetime profile as well like that (launch it from GoToApp), but i won't try it out now.
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I will test this out today and let you know if I got it to work. The only thing is, I don't have a child profile, I have a secondary adult profile.
Once I got root I put adaway, titanium backup, modded pandora. I also put on the viperaudio. Can do that by adding busybox via https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.busybox&hl=en
and you'll also need to use something to set selinux to passive for viper to work. I did this by installing Kernal Auditor https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor&hl=en
I used Kernel Adiutor to emulate init.d and used the below script and it works to make it permissive on boot and viper driver shows enabled to confirm it
#!/system/bin/sh
setenforce 0
razers7t8 said:
I will test this out today and let you know if I got it to work. The only thing is, I don't have a child profile, I have a secondary adult profile.
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The play store hack didn't work for me after following your instructions regarding link2sd. The play store doesn't appear on my other login account.
hm, that is strange. i did two other things before i had root:
trying to install the 4 apks on the other profile, but only the first 2 could be installed: com.google.android.gsf.login.apk and com.google.android.gsf.apk.
and i entered the following command via adb in the main profile:
adb shell pm grant com.google.android.gms android.permission.INTERACT_ACROSS_USERS
but ony after coverting all of the 4 required apks to system apps it worked. did you convert all 4?
if not, maybe one of the steps before make the difference?
androingo said:
hm, that is strange. i did two other things before i had root:
trying to install the 4 apks on the other profile, but only the first 2 could be installed: com.google.android.gsf.login.apk and com.google.android.gsf.apk.
and i entered the following command via adb in the main profile:
adb shell pm grant com.google.android.gms android.permission.INTERACT_ACROSS_USERS
but ony after coverting all of the 4 required apks to system apps it worked. did you convert all 4?
if not, maybe one of the steps before make the difference?
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Oh. That must have been what I did wrong. I only converted the play store apk to a system file. I'll do the other three now.
razers7t8 said:
Oh. That must have been what I did wrong. I only converted the play store apk to a system file. I'll do the other three now.
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Well now the play store shows up on the other login, but when I tap on it, nothing happens. Also, in link2sd, there's no option to clear "dalvik cache." Only "clear cache" which I did.
I notice that ever since I turned the 4 Google apps into system apps with link2sd, my Facebook app no longer works. It gets stuck in the screen.:
My phone is forcing upon me an update that I wish to stave off, if possible, or stop altogether if possible.
The upcoming update will happen in a day if I don't figure out how to stop it.
How can we definitively tell if the baseband will be incremented with any given forced update?
And how can we tell if this is a security-only update, or if the baseband will be updated too?
Use Package Disabler or an adb edit to disable these two services. Stops it dead in its tracks.
blackhawk said:
Use Package Disabler or an adb edit to disable these two services. Stops it dead in its tracks.
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Ah. Too late! This time anyway.
But your information is good for next time.
I'll use this information in the future (and so can others, which is the point of my fleshing what you just had suggested as the answer) to disable the following two services on my T-Mobile Galaxy A32 5G (SM-326U) Android 12 setup...
<com.sec.android.soagent>
What is com.sec.android.soagent?
What is SOAgent in Samsung Galaxy?
What does com.sec.android.soagent do?
<com.ws.dm>
What is com.ws.dm?
What does com.ws.dm do in a Google Activity?
What does Com WS DS mean?
When I looked to disable those two services using my MuntashirAkon App Manager...
<https://github.com/MuntashirAkon/AppManager>
I found that perhaps that second service has a different name?
<com.sec.android.soagent>
<com.wssyncmldm>
What is com.wssyncmldm?
How to disable com.wssyncmldm
Step by step guide to disabling com.wssyncmldm
All you need to know about com.wssyncmldm
Why disable com.wssyncmldm
How to fix com ws sync mldm
Everything you need to know about com.wssyncmldm
As for "Package Disabler", I didn't even know you could disable system packages without being root (alas, my phone can't be rooted).
It's nice to know you can disable system apps without root.
So that others don't have to look for it, I think I found it here, at least with my first set of search terms.
Package Disabler
<https://www.packagedisabler.com>
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
You can disable apps with 1 click. Disabled application / package will not be uninstalled or updated using Google play or any other means.
This app also provides password / uninstall protection to avoid misuse.
When I searched on XDA-Developers forum threads for package disabler, I found a bunch of hits, but I don't know which are canonical updated threads.
Package Disabler Pro- De-Bloat & Remove Stock Apps For Better Ram-Battery Life
Package Disabler - Android 11?
which also suggests LADB(Kunal Adb) or PC adb
Package Disabler?
Package Disabler?
New package disabler,works!!!
Package Disabler
Package disabler pro
[GUIDE] [No Root] Disable System Apps & Bloatware: Package Disabler Pro - T-Mobile
Has anyone found an alternative apk to package disabler pro?
Need Help with my note 8 Bootloop caused by disabled Packages
What bloatware have you safely disabled/removed on the Galaxy Tab S3?
These non-forum articles showed up in a google search for more information about this useful "package disabler" tool which purports to disable system packages without needing to be root.
Debloat Galaxy Devices Without Root
Universal Android Debloater helps you get rid of unwanted apps and bloatware on your phone
How to disable any pre-installed system app bloatware on Android without root
Android Central Package Disabler
Regarding the adb commands, I use adb all day every day for a variety of things (see below) but I haven't used adb (or ladb) to disable a service which requires root as I didn't know you could do that.
How to duplicate what adb does to ad hoc open any given Activity on the Android phone?
[adb] [Wireless debugging] [Wi-Fi] Is there an updated XDA tutorial yet on setting up adb COMPLETELY wirelessly as of Android 11+ (no USB cable!)?
[adb] What is the adb syntax to connect wirelessly to Android by unique serial number (instead of by Wi-Fi LAN IP address & random port assignment)?
[adb] [Wireless debugging] [Wi-Fi] Is there an updated XDA tutorial yet on setting up adb COMPLETELY wirelessly as of Android 11+ (no USB cable!)?
(PSA) Using the new Android 12 TILE for 'Developer options' 'Wireless debugging' to establish adb connection over Wi-Fi without USB
[adb,scrcpy,vysor] What ports does Android 12 randomly set when Wi-Fi connecting via Wireless debugging adb "pair" or "connect" commands?
Android 12 Developer options adb "Wireless debugging" option keeps turning off
For any given trusted computer, can we make an adb usb debugging connection on day one & then SAVE adbkey.pub authentication keys for use years later?
As for how to use either local adb (ladb) to disable packages (without needing the PC and without needing to be rooted), my first task was to look up what the ladb commands might be...
Say hello to LADB, a local ADB shell without needing root or a computer!
How to debloat your phone (and more) without connecting to a PC
And then let's look up some of the adb commands to figure out what they are to disable the two services using a PC but without needing to be rooted.
XDA-Developers guide to ADB
ADB Tips & Tricks: ADB commands that every power user should know about!
Obviously I have some homework to do before I can successfully disable the two services listed above without needing to be rooted (as my phone can't be rooted) using just adb (which seems like the easiest way to approach this task)...
Since I'm always connected to my phone via adb anyway (as I mirror my screen and audio onto my PC) I may as well use the adb commands to disable the two update services, where might these be the related necessary adb commands to employ for that task?
C:\> adb shell pm list packages | findstr /i soagent
That should find "package:com.sec.android.soagent"
C:\> adb shell pm list packages -d | findstr /i soagent
That should find the disabled packages & then grep for "com.sec.android.soagent" which shouldn't (yet) be in that list
C:\> adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.sec.android.soagent
That should (I hope) disable the listed package (is that correct?)
C:\> adb shell pm enable --user 0 com.sec.android.soagent
That should (if desired), re-enable the listed package (is that right?)Likewise, these are likely the related steps for com.wssyncmldm:
C:\> adb shell pm list packages | findstr /i wssyncmldm
C:\> adb shell pm list packages -d | findstr /i wssyncmldm
C:\> adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.wssyncmldm
C:\> adb shell pm enable --user 0 com.wssyncmldm
But first, may I confirm that my two services are of a different name than that which was initially suggested?
And may I confirm the adb commands to disable those two services?
You can probably roll it back from 12 to 11 if you want provided the boot loader wasn't upgraded too.
This stock Samsung N10+ hasn't been updated in over 3 years; still running on Pie. Current load is over 2.5 yo, still fast, very stable with minimal maintenance. Security simply isn't an issue with its current configuration... screw the Google scare hype. This is what Android is capable of... if you leave it be.
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You can probably roll it back from 12 to 11 if you want provided the boot loader wasn't upgraded too.
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Thank you for that suggestion, where I really don't know that much about Android, which I openly admit. I can research if pointed in the right direction though.
I am told the bootloader for the T-Mobile A32-5G needs to be version 5 or below (maybe even 3 or below) in order to root the Samsung Galaxy A32-5G, and mine is currently version 8.
I don't know how to roll back a bootloader, but even so, I'm not sure I understand your suggestion of rolling back the Android version from 12 to 11.
How would changing the OS change the bootloader version?
blackhawk said:
This stock Samsung N10+ hasn't been updated in over 3 years; still running on Pie. Current load is over 2.5 yo, still fast, very stable with minimal maintenance. Security simply isn't an issue with its current configuration... screw the Google scare hype. This is what Android is capable of... if you leave it be.
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I very much appreciate your kind and thoughtful advice that pointed me in the direction of the two packages that I needed to disable, which is what I needed to research in the right direction.
I also much appreciate that you mentioned adb will do the job of disabling those packages without me being rooted, as that too was a required datapoint that I didn't know until you told me.
Thank you very much for your kind advice, where I do agree with you this hype about having the latest security patches isn't something I'm all that worried about.
However....
There is this "nagging concern" that, as of Google's Project Mainline and Project Treble (both since renamed), the way that the 25 core modules update is no longer via carrier updates but over the air with Google Framework Services updates (not to be confused with Google Play Services updates).
AdServices multi-package multi-type Android 13
adbd com.android.adbd APEX Android 11
AppSearch com.android.appsearch APEX Android 13
ART com.android.art APEX Android 12
Bluetooth APEX Android 13
CellBroadcast com.android.cellbroadcast APEX Android 11
Conscrypt com.android.conscrypt APEX Android 10
Device Scheduling com.android.scheduling APEX Android 12
DNS Resolver com.android.resolv APEX Android 10
DocumentsUI com.android.documentsui APK Android 10
ExtServices com.android.ext.services APK (Android 10)
ExtServices com.android.ext.services APEX (Android 11)
IPsec/IKEv2 Library com.android.ipsec APEX Android 11
Media Media: com.android.media Android 10 (extractors)
Media Codecs: com.android.media.swcodec APEX Android 10 (extractors, MediaSession API) Android 11 (MediaParser API)
MediaProvider com.android.mediaprovider APEX Android 11
ModuleMetadata com.android.modulemetadata APK Android 10
Network Stack Network Stack Permission Configuration: com.android.networkstack.permissionconfig
Captive Portal Login: com.android.captiveportallogin
Network Components: com.android.networkstack APK Android 10
NNAPI Runtime com.android.neuralnetworks APK Android 11
OnDevicePersonalization Runtime Multiple Multiple Android 13
PermissionController com.android.permissioncontroller APK Android 10
SDK Extensions com.android.sdkext APEX Android 11
Statsd com.android.os.statsd APEX Android 11
Tethering com.android.tethering APK Android 11
Time Zone Data com.android.tzdata APEX Android 10
UWB com.android.uwb APEX Android 13
Wi-Fi com.android.wifi APEX Android 11
It's all very confusing HOW Android updates nowadays.
Some updates are over the air by the carrier
Other updates are done separately for the 25 core modules
Still others are done over a Google Play Store app Activity
(These last app updates are not really part of the Google Play Store app but the Activity for app updates appears in the settings for the Google Play Store app so a lot of people associate those app updates with the Google Play Store app).
In short, does this method of disabling two packages "really" work to stop all updates?
Or does it just work for the Project Mainline updates?
Or just the carrier supplied security updates?
I don't know.
You're welcome.
The bootloader version can be upgraded but not rolled back on a Snapdragon. If just the rom was upgraded from 11 to 12 it can be rolled back by flashing Android 11 if the bootloader wasn't upgraded too. I think this is the case for you but check it to be sure. Personally I don't muck with the firmware. A Samsung Experience center at a Best Buy can also flash it back to 11.
I really don't worry about updating any apps unless there's a improvement I need, so I don't.
It leads to a more stable platform since everything is already running well, more importantly it's fulfilling its mission. In the end that's all that counts. This is my solution; it may not be what others do but it works very well for me. I send almost zero time now troubleshooting... it just runs.
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Without you, I wouldn't have known the name of the two packages, nor that adb can disable them without me being rooted. Thanks.
What I don't know, yet anyway, is which of the following software versions those two packages above facilitated the updates for...
Android version [e.g., Android 12]
Baseband version [e.g., A326USQS8BVL3]
Security update [e.g., Dec. 1, 2022]
Google Play System [e.g., March 1, 2022]
Google Play Services [e.g., 22.42.12 (190400-481949630]
Google Play Store [e.g., 33.5.16-21 [0][PR] 4933219047]
Firmware (such as the Qualcomm modem firmware)
25 Core modules in Project Mainline
These are apparently updated either over Google Play Services on the net or OTA by partners.
Default/original apps (such as Chrome, YouTube, etc.)
User apps (of which there may be hundreds)
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The bootloader version can be upgraded but not rolled back on a Snapdragon.
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I didn't think it was going to be easy to unlock the bootloader, let alone roll it backward a notch or two.
BTW, it's not a Snapdragon I don't think.
DevCheck (see attached screenshot) shows it to be a "Mediatek Dimensity 720" powering this SM-A326U Galaxy A32 5G.
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If just the rom was upgraded from 11 to 12 it can be rolled back by flashing Android 11 if the bootloader wasn't upgraded too. I think this is the case for you but check it to be sure. Personally I don't muck with the firmware. A Samsung Experience center at a Best Buy can also flash it back to 11.
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I've seen that link, and I found it fantastic, where I think I'm stuck in not being able to root unless something new comes up - which is my main purpose here in at least freezing the bootloader version at 8.
The main lack of information I have at the moment is I don't know WHAT PROCESS updates the bootloader.
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I really don't worry about updating any apps unless there's a improvement I need, so I don't.
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I'm with you 100% in that I don't update ANY apps unless I KNOW it has something I want (which almost never happens).
That's good that neither of us worries about app updates because most people don't realize what a MESS app updates truly are!
I've found out most people THINK that the Google Play Store does a check for new apps for ALL your installed apps - but I've tested it and it doesn't even come close (see attached screenshot proof).
The Google Play Store app update section isn't even part of the Google Play Store (it's an Activity within it but it's independent of the Google Play Store app itself) - but what's worse is the fact it updates barely any apps.
Maybe a dozen. Maybe even two dozen.
But the Google Play Store app update Activity MISSES hundreds upon hundreds of apps, which the screenshots below prove to be the case.
Luckily, as a result of that opinion which we both share that we don't update apps unless we need to, this whole app update mess isn't an issue for either one of us, but bear in mind that a LOT of people "think" the Google Play Store app "updates" all their apps.
It's not even close.
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It leads to a more stable platform since everything is already running well, more importantly it's fulfilling its mission. In the end that's all that counts. This is my solution; it may not be what others do but it works very well for me. I send almost zero time now troubleshooting... it just runs.
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I'm like you in that I don't update the hundreds of apps unless any one of them needs to be updated, which almost never happens.
But what is driving me nuts is the CONFUSION about what process updates what part of the Android operating system.
For example, I'm currently at:
The Google Play System = March 1, 2022
Settings > About phone > Software information
The Google Play Services = Version 22.42.12 (190400-481949630)
Settings > Apps > Your apps > Google Play Services
The Google Play Store = 33.5.16-21 [0][PR] 4933219047
Settings > Apps > Your apps > Google Play Services
But what is the process that updates those three entities?
It behooves us to nail this down as I'm confused what is updated when & how.
While there are at least a half dozen important layers of Android which are updated on a variety of schedules, I think the fundamental updated layers may be:
The Android OS version, baseband & security patch levels
The Google Play {System,Services,Store} system update levels
The versions of the 25 core modules of Project Mainline
The versions of the firmware in Project Treble
The versions of all the apps supplied with the native OS
I'm embarrassed, for example, to state that I have no idea whatsoever what updates the BASEBAND, for example.
Worse, I have no idea what process updates the 25 core modules of the Project Mainline modules (which is the core of Android).
Project Mainline core modules in Android 10
Project Mainline core modules in Android 11
Project Mainline core modules in Android 12
Project Mainline core modules in Android 13
What process updates those two dozen critical core modules?
com.wssyncmldm is what does all OTA firmware updates for the phone including the bootloader as far as I know. To stop OTA upgrades only it needs to be disabled. It's the only one that can permanently screw you up.
I'm not familiar with the MediaTek chipsets. Galaxy store updates it's apps as well, I firewall block it unless I need to use it.
I keep installable backup copies of all my apps including system. That way on a reload or if they get an unwanted update, I'm ready.
Worksv on Android 9,10, not sure about higher. Newer versions are on Playstore.
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com.wssyncmldm is what does all OTA firmware updates for the phone including the bootloader as far as I know. To stop OTA upgrades only it needs to be disabled. It's the only one that can permanently screw you up.
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Thank you for confirming com.wssyncmldm does the over-the-air firmware updates, and, particularly the caveat that it's the only updater package that can permanently screw the ability to root up.
Android is broken into so many components that I am going nuts trying to figure out what updates what - so that helps (a little).
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I'm not familiar with the MediaTek chipsets. Galaxy store updates it's apps as well, I firewall block it unless I need to use it.
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Thank you for bringing up the Galaxy App update mechanism, which I had omitted in my description of what updates apps above.
The OTA update often updates default system apps
The Google Play Store Activity Updater updates "some" apps
The FOSS Google Play Store clients also update "many" apps
The Samsung Galaxy Store updater updates its own apps
There are app updaters I've tested which update ALL apps
(Of course, these assume an update is available.)
Just so that you know, I never create ANY login on my phone, so I can't log into the galaxy store even if I had wanted to do so.
Is there any app in the Samsung Galaxy Store worth the login requirements?
That means I don't have a Google Account set up on my phone either (even as I have a Google Account), so I've learned empirically that if you log into the GMail app even once, it CREATES a Google Account on your phone.
The phone works better WITHOUT the Google Account setup.
Likewise if you log into the Google Maps app, or Google Voice, etc., but luckily ALL the Google apps have equivalent apps which generally work better than the Google apps do anyway.
GMail === FairMail mail client
Chrome === Ungoogled Chromium web client
YouTube === NewPipe YouTube client
Google Play Store === Aurora Google Play Store client
Google Maps === works fine w/o a login
Google Calendar === Etar
Google Messages === Pulse SMS (before Klinker sold to Maple Media)
Google launcher === Nova Launcher (before they sold out)
etc.
Note a good reason for SAVING all the APKs you install is shown in the case of Nova and Pulse where both went over to the dark side.
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I keep installable backup copies of all my apps including system. That way on a reload or if they get an unwanted update, I'm ready.
Worksv on Android 9,10, not sure about higher. Newer versions are on Playstore.
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Like you, I maintain all my APKs independently OUTSIDE of the current daily drive phone, where it's all completely automatic.
The FOSS Google Play Store clients have an option to NOT DELETE the APK when you install any app off the Google Play Store repository.
That fact bears repeating.
When you install an app off the Google Play store, presumably this sequence occurs:
1. The client finds the app & then you download the APK
2. The client initiates the installation of the APK
3. Then the client always DELETES the downloaded APK
But when you install that same app off that same repository using the FOSS Google Play Store clients, and if you check the box to NOT DELETE the APK after installation, then THIS sequence happens.
1. The client finds the app & then you download the APK
2. The client initiates the installation of the APK
3. Then the client always DOES NOT DELETE the downloaded APK
In addition, my Android file system and my Windows file systems are exactly the same (so to speak) since I use free WebDAV servers to mount my entire Android filesystem onto Windows as a drive letter over Wi-Fi (no cables necessary).
Can you mount BOTH Android internal & external storage onto Windows as a drive letter over Wi-Fi using a SINGLE WebDAV server?
That way, when I need to re-populate a new phone, I first bring over the homescreen and all the icon locations (which Nova does nicely), and then, one by one, I populate the apps by SLIDING them over using my mouse to slide from Windows to the mirrored Android.
See the screenshots below proving all that I say above.
BTW, I have one WARNING about extracting APKs, where I've tested ALL the free extractors extent, and where I've had some bad experiences where the extracted APK doesn't work on a different model phone (generally it's different in every way, hardware & software).
I've had MUCH BETTER experience just NOT DELETING the APK when it's downloaded off the Google Play Store repository, or the F-Droid repository, or the GitHub/Sourceforge/Guardian/etc., repositories.
This problem, I think, will only get worse as of the August 2022 decree by Google regarding APEX files (instead of APK files) on the Google Play Store repository.
In summary, Android UPDATES are complex, and I do NOT profess to understand what updates what - so any help anyone can provide is welcome as I am confused as to what updates what.
Since my credibility matters, screenshots below prove all I say above.
I use whatever comes in handy and don't go more nuts than I need to in order to get the job done.
The reason to be able to access the Samsung Galaxy store are the free icon packs and themes.
Edge add ons and certain other apps like Sound Assistant. The Good Lock family of apps are of particular interest for a Samsung user.
Nova isn't as fast or efficient as One UI. One UI is a very stable launcher and very customizable.
My stock N10+ homescreen running on One UI, modified with various Good Lock apps and One handed Operation plus. Digi Clock and Energy Ring are 3rd party apps.
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Nova isn't as fast or efficient as One UI.
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Nova free went over to the dark side as of the Branch acquisition.
Nova Launcher and Sesame Search have been acquired by Branch, an analytics company
As a direct result of the Branch acquisition, my Nova free is the last known good version (namely the pre-branch 7.0.57 version):
<https://novalauncher.com/beta>
<https://novalauncher.com/apk/NovaLauncher_7.0.57.apk>
Name: NovaLauncher_7.0.57.apk
Size: 8687535 bytes (8483 KiB)
SHA256: 05AE72221D8D4F3D6A111A3220A0C87040806AF4E53053EF64F2DE426990893E
Mostly what I like(d) about Nova free is the ability to save the homescreen (and all the folders, shortcuts, and icons) EXACTLY and then re-load it on any number of phones, no matter what make/model of that phone.
Another feature I really liked about Nova free is its ability to put icons on any grid and in any location whatsoever.
Last summer I had opened a thread seeking a replacement app launcher...
Nova launcher used to be the best free Android launcher - until now - so what's better?
We discussed the merits at that time...
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One UI is a very stable launcher and very customizable.
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I'm happy with my last-known-good-version of Nova free, but because they went over to the dark side, I have to find another app launcher.
If OneUI does those things, I might consider it.
Save homescreen/folders/icons & re-use later
Put icons on any grid (or no grid) whatsoever
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Mostly what I like(d) about Nova free is the ability to save the homescreen (and all the folders, shortcuts, and icons) EXACTLY and then re-load it on any number of phones, no matter what make/model of that phone.
The only other thing I really liked about Nova free is its ability to put icons on any grid and in any location whatsoever.
I'm happy with my last-known-good-version of Nova free, but because they went over to the dark side, I have to find another app launcher.
If OneUI does those two things, I might consider it.
Save homescreen/folders/icons & re-use later
Put icons on any grid (or no grid) whatsoever
Does it?
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SmartSwitch can save icons and homescreen, however on a clean load I wouldn't use SmartSwitch other than to save homescreen settings so you'll need to rebuild the icons and apps although Goodlock apps and homepage settings remain in effect. So it's not like you just landed on mars and everything looks unworldly with no button navigation
Other than folders you're locked into the grid pattern.
One UI is faster, more efficient and very stable. In fact in 3 years I've never had it crash and force a reboot. Let me put this way, one of the most surefire ways to boot loop a Samsung is a 3rd party launcher. Been there, done that twice, back to back full reloads That convinced me to live with the white page indicators. That's my only real criticism of One UI.
Pick your poison wisely...
I didn't read the whole thread, but for instance it's already enough to freeze the "Software-Update" package to stop "Software-Update" notifications.
In my S8 with Android 9 it's located in /system/priv-app/FotaAgent/FotaAgent.apk. Just rename to "FotaAgent.apk.bak" and that's it!
Rooting android phones is like leveling your android to another and better level. Especially with magisk, you can add customizations and improvements to your phone. And don't get me started on custom ROMS and Kernels. The only issue I, and probably others, face with root is that some apps or games do not work with them. I tried some methods and tutorials I found online. Some worked, but other games still detected my root. Specifically that "LIAPP Alert" that I believe checks the system folder of superuser. I like playing mobile games on my phone so it is a big issue for me. Is there a way to make apps not detect my root?
Things I tried that didn't worked:
Hide magisk (change magisk name) - Worked on some games
Use magisk denylist
Geergit (from Lsposed) - to change my device IDs
App Manager (from Fdroid) - I think I may not have used this properly lol
MagiskHide module (by HuskyDG)
Using Parallel Space also works with some apps, but other applications don't like it when you run them in virtual environments. There's also Vmos, a virtual machine for android which is quite amazing... and sketchy. I think it's the only solution that would 100% work on any apps and games. Although, as I said before, it's very sketchy because if you're going to run it on android 10+, it would require you to enable wireless debugging.
My device: PocoF1 using LineageOs 20 (android 13)
You can also install app-hider software for Android phones. The best app-hider apps are available directly in Google Play. Here are a few of the best app hiders for Androids:
Nova Launcher
nova launcher replaces the home screen on your Android phone. It also lets you hide apps and sort and reshuffle them according to your needs.
App Hider
The customizable app hider lets you hide apps on your Android and manage them from different accounts on your device. The app-hider icon is even disguised as a calculator.
Vault
vaults purpose is to hide apps, files, photos, and videos on your Android. It includes cloud backup and the ability to lock apps behind a secure password.