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I had given my old Android 2.3 phone and a fairly new Android 4.4 tablet to my kid.
Within about a month, both devices basically became non-functional on start up.
After some analysis, it became clear that all the games and recreational apps my kid installed was causing the problem: they were all built to auto-start on device boot up, and they lacked an option to tell them not to auto-start on device boot up.
Since both devices were rooted, I used a tool (Clean Master) that quickly identified the auto-start apps and stopped them from auto-starting.
My question is this:
Why would an app developer build an app that auto-starts with no option to disable that? Many auto start apps will just kill the usability of the device, and it isn't trivial finding out why.
If the device was not rooted, there's probably no way to stop these apps except to uninstall them. If Android allows a third-party app on a non-rooted device to auto-start, why isn't there an app that works on non-rooted devices to stop these apps from auto-starting?
Nate2 said:
I had given my old Android 2.3 phone and a fairly new Android 4.4 tablet to my kid.
Within about a month, both devices basically became non-functional on start up.
After some analysis, it became clear that all the games and recreational apps my kid installed was causing the problem: they were all built to auto-start on device boot up, and they lacked an option to tell them not to auto-start on device boot up.
Since both devices were rooted, I used a tool (Clean Master) that quickly identified the auto-start apps and stopped them from auto-starting.
My question is this:
Why would an app developer build an app that auto-starts with no option to disable that? Many auto start apps will just kill the usability of the device, and it isn't trivial finding out why.
If the device was not rooted, there's probably no way to stop these apps except to uninstall them. If Android allows a third-party app on a non-rooted device to auto-start, why isn't there an app that works on non-rooted devices to stop these apps from auto-starting?
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Actually, there were non-root apps that could disable auto-start of other normal apps till JellyBean 4.2 I guess.
Then came the security enforcements which prevented this for non-root users.
Android assumes that an app necessarily needs auto-starting at boot for the smooth working of the app.
There's a reason behind that.
For example, if you disable auto start of FB messenger or WhatsApp, you won't automatically get notifications unless you open it one time so that certain services begin to run in background.
The same goes for your kid's apps like Talking Tom, which gives essential notifications (from a kid's point of view) like "I'm Hungry" or "I wanna pee" or something like that
But you have non-root apps too (you gotta dig a lil deeper to find them) which doesn't work like root apps, that is, doesn't disable them to start at boot. Instead, they stop the apps/services after booting that's disabled in that app.
Apps like CC Cleaner or the so-called antivirus apps work that way only
1. SuperSU Pro
SuperSU Pro: SuperSU (Stands for super super user) is a root access app for Android, which can grant or deny access to root whenever any app requests root access. It will record your choice and allow those apps to access root without prompting. It also makes a log of root accesses.
Features
• Root access prompting, logging, and notifications.
• Temporarily unroot or completely unroot your phone or tablet.
• Work even when Android is not properly booted.
• Wake on prompt.
• Work as system app.
• Accesses it by dialing *#*#1234#*#* or *#*#7873778#*#* from the dialer even it is hidden from the launcher.
• 4- Selectable themes Dark, Light, Light- Dark Actionbar, and Default device.
• 5- Selectable icons for the app.
Advantages
• Smooth app, no extra load on CPU.
• No advertisement.
• Can be hidden.
• Small in size, just 2.2MB space.
Disadvantages
• You cannot lock the app with a pin, but this feature is added in the Pro version which is a paid version of this app.
Download SuperSU Pro from Google Play Store>>
2. Superuser
This app does almost the same as SuperSU. With this app you are going to get PIN protection for the fee, which is available after paying for it in the SuperSU.
This app is a little heavy compared to SuperSU, when it comes to CPU uses. The interface was not that good when the beta version was launched, but the official version is fine and runs smoothly. The developer of this app has announced that this app will always be free and no paid version will be launched ever.
Features
• It provides multi user supports (android 4.2 onwards).
• It is a totally open source project; you can find the source code at github.
• PIN protection. It asks for PIN whenever it encounters a root access request.
• Every app can be configured separately.
• Root access prompting, logging, and notification features.
Advantages
• It can handle multiple root access requests at a same time.
• Updates very frequently in the marketplace, hence you will get added support to all the new Android versions almost instantly.
• You can set the duration of request before they time out.
• If you are looking for a free app, then you cannot find any app better than this one. You will never feel that you make a compromise by not going for a paid app.
• No security voids in this app, everything is transparent.
Disadvantages
• This app is a little bit heavy in terms of CPU uses
• The interface could be made better, but this can be of personal preference. If I don't like the interface doesn't mean you will feel the same.
Download Superuser from Google Play Store>>
3. Superuser X [L]
It is an Android root app designed for experienced people or developers, newbies or amateurs are advised to stay away from this app. This app permits all the apps to access roots once the binary file gets installed, you can also remove this app after that. Hence, you won't get any pop ups asking for the permission to access the root, those pop ups might be irritating for you if you use plenty of rooted apps. Using this app you can stay away from that irritation.
Advantages
• You will be getting the root access even if this app is uninstalled or gets corrupted once the binary file gets installed.
• You can also uninstall the app after installing the binary file. Hence, you can save memory space.
• Gives root access to every app without prompting for permission which can save your time, memory and CPU.
Disadvantages
• The app is designed for developers and experienced user, if you feel secure by giving the root access by prompting for it, then the app is not for you.
• If you are in a habit of downloading and installing random rooted apps from the web, then the app is not for you. You might brick your phone in that case.
• Free version of this app shows some ads, to get rid of that, you should purchase the paid version.
• This app is currently available for those Android devices which are running on the ARM processor.
• The app is based on command line interface. Graphical user interface is not provided.
Download Superuser X [L] from Google Play Store>>
other way to root
does anybody know other root method?
Hi guys. Now that we have root for the 2017 fire tablet HD, let's share the best apps, tweaks, mods, modules, optimizations etc to get the most out of the tablet.
I just rooted my HD 10 and think this thread is a great idea.
The first thing I usually do after getting root is to install AdAway to block most ads:
https://f-droid.org/repo/org.adaway_56.apk
I want use Nova as the default launcher. Is there a way to disable or uninstall the Fire launcher completely with root? The Hijackthis utility kind of works, but once in a while the Fire launcher will still show when pressing the home button.
Update: I found out how to disable the Fire launcher following the instructions from this thread here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/development/tips-tricks-root-t3310569
It appears that many of the tips for the older gen HD 10 tablets also apply to the 2017 model. The thread I mentioned in my previous post has instructions on how to disable Fire launcher and Amazon service that are safe to disable via adb. Also I recommend installing Google Play and disabling OTA services using the script in this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tool-disables-ota-lockscreen-install-t3715320
I also installed some of my favorite root apps such as Titanium Backup and Kernel Adiutor. Also grabbed modded Youtube with no ads (non-root) here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71133073&postcount=3
How do we disable all Amazon apps that aren't necessary to get the fastest, smoothest user experience?
Is there a way to change the lock screen and replace it with one that supports pattern unlock instead of a PIN?
Is there a way to permanently disable all Amazon system apps that may launch at startup and run in the background? I want to disable them to get maximum speed and performance from the device. Maybe what we could do is find an app that shows us what's currently running in the background and using up ram, and then figure out a way to permanently disable and or Uninstall them.
These are the system processes that I found running. There are quite a few Amazon-related processes here. Have a look.
The Amazon-related process that I've identified are:
Wake Word Service
System UI
Amazon Metrics Server Application
Fire Content Manager Service
Here Positioning
Precog
Identity mobile platform
Fire Amazon platform
Fire Amazon communication services
Audio stream provider service
Amazon webview metric services
Whisperplay daemon
Documents
Content support manager
Amazon device settings
Crash monitor
Documents
Read the posts in this thread (started by DragonFire1024) to get an idea about what can (not) be uninstalled.
We just gained root, and we do not yet have a reliable method to backup/restore partitions. I would urge you to err on the side of caution and, if you really have to, just control the apps that autorun. You can use the startup manager in ROM Toolbox Lite or All-In-One Toolbox to find out what's running at boot.
Before you start, backup your apps+data using TiBu.
Have you tested the recovery procedure detailed in this post? What's your fallback option if your 10 HD gets bricked? All things considered, a reasonably snappy tablet running some bloat is better than a brick you can't recover from.
These are the apps that I currently have installed on my fire tablet. Feel free to share your apps, too!
Guys,
So I'm using the free version of nova launcher, and one thing that I don't like is that I don't get app notifications. For example, if I get a like on Facebook or a message on Facebook messenger, there's no notification alerting you. Usually you'd see like a "1" on the app icon signaling that there's one new message. Apparently that's because I'm using the free version of nova launcher and the paid version has this functionality built in. I don't want to buy the paid version only to have it not work. Can anyone confirm that the paid version of nova launcher will give me notifications on the app icons, or is this just not supported on fire OS?
*UPDATE*
I think these things are called "badges".
I have rooted my Fire HD 10 2017, installed SuperSU and now of course it does not pass safety net anymore
As I was playing some games from Google Play on the tab, this kind of annoys me, but is no dealbreaker at all.
Has anybody made some experience with hiding root / magisk or something else on the Fire HD 10?
i had posted this information on the main 'rooted fire hd 10 7th generation' thread already but thought it was quite useful regarding nova launcher, playstore and using a child profle:
if you want to use use widgets with nova launcher, just convert nova to a system app. the easiest way i found to achieve this is using the link2sd app.
to use google playstore in a different user profile (e.g. parent profile with child restrictions, as i don't like the freetime child profile) you can also convert playstore to a system app (and clear dalvik dalvik cache,also with link2sd). it showed up in the fire launcher on the other profile right after a reboot. just needed to log in again.
maybe you can use it on a freetime profile as well like that (launch it from GoToApp), but i won't try it out now.
androingo said:
i had posted this information on the main 'rooted fire hd 10 7th generation' thread already but thought it was quite useful regarding nova launcher, playstore and using a child profle:
if you want to use use widgets with nova launcher, just convert nova to a system app. the easiest way i found to achieve this is using the link2sd app.
to use google playstore in a different user profile (e.g. parent profile with child restrictions, as i don't like the freetime child profile) you can also convert playstore to a system app (and clear dalvik dalvik cache,also with link2sd). it showed up in the fire launcher on the other profile right after a reboot. just needed to log in again.
maybe you can use it on a freetime profile as well like that (launch it from GoToApp), but i won't try it out now.
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I will test this out today and let you know if I got it to work. The only thing is, I don't have a child profile, I have a secondary adult profile.
Once I got root I put adaway, titanium backup, modded pandora. I also put on the viperaudio. Can do that by adding busybox via https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.busybox&hl=en
and you'll also need to use something to set selinux to passive for viper to work. I did this by installing Kernal Auditor https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor&hl=en
I used Kernel Adiutor to emulate init.d and used the below script and it works to make it permissive on boot and viper driver shows enabled to confirm it
#!/system/bin/sh
setenforce 0
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I will test this out today and let you know if I got it to work. The only thing is, I don't have a child profile, I have a secondary adult profile.
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The play store hack didn't work for me after following your instructions regarding link2sd. The play store doesn't appear on my other login account.
hm, that is strange. i did two other things before i had root:
trying to install the 4 apks on the other profile, but only the first 2 could be installed: com.google.android.gsf.login.apk and com.google.android.gsf.apk.
and i entered the following command via adb in the main profile:
adb shell pm grant com.google.android.gms android.permission.INTERACT_ACROSS_USERS
but ony after coverting all of the 4 required apks to system apps it worked. did you convert all 4?
if not, maybe one of the steps before make the difference?
androingo said:
hm, that is strange. i did two other things before i had root:
trying to install the 4 apks on the other profile, but only the first 2 could be installed: com.google.android.gsf.login.apk and com.google.android.gsf.apk.
and i entered the following command via adb in the main profile:
adb shell pm grant com.google.android.gms android.permission.INTERACT_ACROSS_USERS
but ony after coverting all of the 4 required apks to system apps it worked. did you convert all 4?
if not, maybe one of the steps before make the difference?
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Oh. That must have been what I did wrong. I only converted the play store apk to a system file. I'll do the other three now.
razers7t8 said:
Oh. That must have been what I did wrong. I only converted the play store apk to a system file. I'll do the other three now.
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Well now the play store shows up on the other login, but when I tap on it, nothing happens. Also, in link2sd, there's no option to clear "dalvik cache." Only "clear cache" which I did.
I notice that ever since I turned the 4 Google apps into system apps with link2sd, my Facebook app no longer works. It gets stuck in the screen.:
Hello everyone.
Because I passed over the "rooting" period, I am more interested in getting the max out of this phone without rooting it.
This thread I intend to make it about apps (useful ones) that requires no root in order to work.
I would start with an ad blocker.
My favourite tool is Blokada - https://blokada.org/
Plain and easy to install and use and works fine.
Next is Vanced - a more adVanced YouTube player. https://vancedapp.com/
Simple to install but, before using it, you must disable MIUI optimization
Another app that worth mentioning is Twilight. If you are a night phone user, this app is here to protect your eyes.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.lux
MIUI - Contacts and dialer
If the stock (Google) dialer and contacts is not for you, you can try the MIUi - Contacts and dialer app, slightly more aesthetic.
Xiaomi Contacts and dialer 12.2.4.5 APK Download by Xiaomi Inc - APKMirror
Xiaomi Contacts and dialer 12.2.4.5 APK Download by Xiaomi Inc - APKMirror Free and safe Android APK downloads
www.apkmirror.com
If you want a more loud sound - even if on this stereo speakers phone isn't really necessary, you can use Volume Booster. Beware of not setting it over 20% otherwise you will risk hearing and speakers problems.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodev.volume.booster
I will update the list with some other apps.
If you have something to add, please feel free to share.
WaveUp can turn the screen on and off "automatically" via waving over the proximity sensor. For users of "book covers" the app is quite useful, as you can set it so that the screen is activated by opening the cover and deactivated after a predefined time after closing it.
WaveUp - Apps on Google Play
Turn on the display by waving
play.google.com
Termux. It's impressive what it can do without root.
Does having to use adb to grant permission count? If not any Package Disabler can do some damage
SD maid, it may be an old app but it still does thinks better than a lot of apps.
Can't forget about how useful Mixplorer can be. I have not looked for a different file browser because it I can't think of anything it can't do.
Adaway works without root now, not sure how well because I go nuts not having root, lol
And my newest discovery, the one that actually caused me to get rid of Chrome completely because I found Bromite.
Yes Bromite (Google it) it's such an amazing web browser.
Turmux
Package Disabler
SD Maid
Mixplorer
Bromite (Just try it, you won't regret it. Not on Play Store, Google is afraid of it)
GitHub - bromite/bromite: Bromite is a Chromium fork with ad blocking and privacy enhancements; take back your browser!
Bromite is a Chromium fork with ad blocking and privacy enhancements; take back your browser! - GitHub - bromite/bromite: Bromite is a Chromium fork with ad blocking and privacy enhancements; take ...
github.com
Bitwarden - Easily best password manager, recently Gboard added integration for it you can auto-fill passwords for sites and apps easily.
KWGT - Insane customisability, visit /r/AndroidThemes for ideas. This is my desktop @ ArrowOS.
k3lcior said:
Bitwarden - Easily best password manager, recently Gboard added integration for it you can auto-fill passwords for sites and apps easily.
KWGT - Insane customisability, visit /r/AndroidThemes for ideas. This is my desktop @ ArrowOS.
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Oh Gboard how did I forget that. It's basically the first app I always install after a factory reset or whatever
A different launcher, less useless gimmicks and focused on productivity.
Ratio Launcher
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bllocosn
Here's another app that might be useful for some.
SystemUI - to slightly modify some hidden options on UI. No root, just ADB to grant some permissions
SystemUI Tuner - Apps on Google Play
PLEASE READ ENTIRE DESCRIPTION BEFORE INSTALLING
play.google.com
If you are annoyed with your default messages app, coz of the cluttered unorganised ui, and u get lot of sms then try Sms Organizer from "Microsoft". I have been using this app since it first came out, it basically organises all ur messages automatically into categories like transactions, personal, promotion etc. and it only shows you what's important in a message in the popup or notifications panel, for example it will only show you the OTP if u got one msg of it, it will show you the amount debited/credited to ur account if u gat a transaction msg, it will tell u if u got cashback, it will remind you for ur upcoming event and online order delivery stuff. So the conclusion is you must use this app as ur default messenger no matter what phone u r using, this will make your life 10 times easier and the ui is super clean too, it also has dark(amoled) mode.
Here is the link- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.android.smsorganizer
From F-Droid repository:
* OsmAnd+ - maps and navigation
* Mull - cleaned version of Firefox Browser
* NewPipe - YouTube frontend.
Freeware. No ads. No bs.
Make installable copies of all your apps and updates. Take Playwhore out of the reload loop.
APK Export (Backup & Share) - Apps on Google Play
Manage and extract your apps.
play.google.com
A VNP based Firewall that uses almost no battery. Works best with Pie or lower though.
Logging doesn't work with 10 up, I believe... test it and let me know.
Karma Firewall - Apps on Google Play
Karma Firewall app lets you block internet traffic to and from specific apps.
play.google.com
I'm quite a fan of NoRoot Firewall:
NoRoot Firewall - Apps on Google Play
Firewall WITHOUT ROOT. Host name name filtering, fine-grained access control.
play.google.com
I don't trust a lot of apps and NoRoot works well. It blocks all apps by default and you can choose to allow Internet over wifi, data, both or neither. It also supports filters so you can globally block particular sites.
It's usually the first thing I install when I gte a new phone or reinstall.
You do have to keep in mind that if a trusted app can't access the Internet, NoRoot may be blocking it, so you just enable it and away you go.
Cheers
Steve
IMHO a must have app is the:
Download Progress++
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ceco.sbdp.pro&hl=gsw&gl=US
Came from an xposed module. Now works as an app without anything else.
Should be a default android option.
Hey!
Hope you're doing well!
Sorry for reviving this old thread but I would like to add two new apps:
GOVPN: non-invasive ad-supported VPN. Allows to choose the desired location, unrestricted and unlimited. Did some tests with online streaming and went all good.
VPN secure fast proxy by GOVPN - Apps on Google Play
VPN for safe web browsing. Unlimited, many countries
play.google.com
Activity Launcher
Gives access to internal apps to be launched, apps usually not available in a normal state of the phone.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.szalkowski.activitylauncher
Time to add on to the list:
Migrate : Helps restore apps and app data when switching between Custom ROMS, outdated as of now but still works.
Naveenthemi said:
Time to add on to the list:
Migrate : Helps restore apps and app data when switching between Custom ROMS, outdated as of now but still works.
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The thread requires non-rooted apps
I've never rooted an Android. One of the warnings I see over and over is that rooted devices are more vulnerable to malware. I don't see any solutions for this though.
What extra measures will I need to take to keep my Android safe?
I use Norton 360 on my PC and Androids. Will this be of any help?
Are there any apps I can install to help with this issue?
Are there any system settings I should use for this particular problem?
Thank you
With stock or rooted the biggest threat is the user themselves. Most either install or download the malware themselves. A fully updated stock Android isn't invulnerable; there's no saving dumb bunnies...
Side loaded apps are high risk; at the least scan with online Virustotal and consider the results before installing. Keep email in the cloud and be careful if you choose to download anything.
All downloads stay in the download folder until vetted. Jpeg's and png's are suspect; open them there first before moving them and watch for strange behavior in that folder. Check the download folder daily for anything you didn't download, if found do not open, delete.
Keep thrash social media apps off the phone, all of them. They are targets and vectors for malware of all types.
Use a good firewall and police what apps are doing. Revoke internet access to all apps that don't need it. Know what apps have run at start permissions; do they need it? Updates and upgrades can cause more lost time then malware trying to find work arounds. Lock auto updates down, and download them only if needed. Updates and firmware upgrades can and do break things...
Most importantly cover your six and be prepared.
Critical data can not be lost, protect it!
Redundantly backup all critical data to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC. Be ready to do a full reload if needed.
If malware is found or suspected, isolate the phone and if it can't be completely deleted in an hour or two, nuke that load. Be ready to change passwords and secure accounts.
Never trust antivirus apps to detect malware or save you, mostly they just waste resources on an Android.
Thank you!
I'm already doing a lot of those things, especially social media apps.
One of the reasons I want to root my phone is that I can't uninstall, force stop, disable or take away permissions for some apps, like Facebook, Facebook App installer, FB app manager Google, ad nauseum. The same goes for the millions of preinstalled Samsung bloatware apps. They dont stay disabled and routinely restore permissions. Im sick of having to routinely check them all. I'll never buy another Saamsung again.
You're welcome. Welcome to XDA
I run 2 stock N10+'s, one on Pie, the other on 10.
I use package disabler to kill bloatware and services I don't want to run at bootup. You can also use a adb editing app to disable apks. Don't go too nuts; be wary of disabling any Samsung system apps. Most of these apps just sit unless needed. Dependencies... actions have consequences; understand what the app does and what other apps, services or UI functions are dependent on it!
Google play Services can be disabled when not needed; disable find my device as System Administrator first.
On Pie Karma Firewall is fully functional but not on Android 10 and up, although it will still block access. It uses virtually no battery.
Once you sort it out (learning curve ahead) stock Samsung's especially older ones like the N10+ are easy to run. They are the most customizable stock Android on the planet with an excellent UI. The current load on this one will be 2 yo this June; still fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. Security is simply not an issue.
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You're welcome. Welcome to XDA
I run 2 stock N10+'s, one on Pie, the other on 10.
I use package disabler to kill bloatware and services I don't want to run at bootup. You can also use a adb editing app to disable apks. Don't go too nuts; be wary of disabling any Samsung system apps. Most of these apps just sit unless needed. Dependencies... actions have consequences; understand what the app does and what other apps, services or UI functions are dependent on it!
Google play Services can be disabled when not needed; disable find my device as System Administrator first.
On Pie Karma Firewall is fully functional but not on Android 10 and up, although it will still block access. It uses virtually no battery.
Once you sort it out (learning curve ahead) stock Samsung's especially older ones like the N10+ are easy to run. They are the most customizable stock Android on the planet with an excellent UI. The current load on this one will be 2 yo this June; still fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. Security is simply not an issue.
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The more annoying Samsung apps I was referring to are the Bixby apps, AR doodle, Smarter things... those kind of apps. If they didn't re-enable themselves restore permissions, I wouldn't mind them so much. But they DO.
I won't be using that phone much longer anyway. I'm going back to Motorola.
I always buy factory or globally unlocked phones. That helps some. But Motorola recently started forcing FB. I can uninstall it, however I have to review updates to make sure it doesn't end up on my phone again. But then I review all updates before installing them anyway..
I always look up the system apps before making any changes. Like Google Easter Egg. Everything I could find says it's unnecessary.
All those mentioned apps can be safely disabled.
Bixby Vision is used for barcode scanning though.
Try the free Galaxy store icon packs, themes and the Good Lock family of apps including One Handed Operation plus.
Chose theme>icon pack>whatever wallpaper you want. The native high contrast theme looks good.
Play with it...
blackhawk said:
All those mentioned apps can be safely disabled.
Bixby Vision is used for barcode scanning though.
Try the free Galaxy store icon packs, themes and the Good Lock family of apps including One Handed Operation plus.
Chose theme>icon pack>whatever wallpaper you want. The native high contrast theme looks good.
Play with it...
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I actually already ordered a new Moto. It will be here tomorrow. Well, it's after 1am, so I guess it'll be here later today.
I've disabled multiple Samsung apps, restricted data and battery, taken away permissions, not just in app settings, but in permissions setting, special access permissions... And all the other weird ways I keep finding out about that you wouldn't think would be a place to remove permissions. When my phone starts to slow down, or the battery isn't lasting very long, sure enough, Samsung has gone behind my back and reset my preferences again. I never had issues like this any of the Motorola phones I've had.