Hi, Everyone,
I'm considering Find X2 PRO as my next phone, and it's is time to be 5G-ready after all!
I've tried to seek trough the whole internet including this forum and tech spec., but couldn't really find clear information.
So my question is: Does this phone support mmWave or not?
If no: Is it strictly sub6Ghz on hardware level? Or is it matter of firmware?
If yes: How would phone purchased in EU work in US and vice-versa? Asian phone? Are the frequency ranges any different?
Thanks for your answers.
nwrust said:
Hi, Everyone,
I'm considering Find X2 PRO as my next phone, and it's is time to be 5G-ready after all!
I've tried to seek trough the whole internet including this forum and tech spec., but couldn't really find clear information.
So my question is: Does this phone support mmWave or not?
If no: Is it strictly sub6Ghz on hardware level? Or is it matter of firmware?
If yes: How would phone purchased in EU work in US and vice-versa? Asian phone? Are the frequency ranges any different?
Thanks for your answers.
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5G Coverage on OPPO Find X2
OPPO Find X2 Pro supports SA/NA dual mode 5G with global roaming capability in 6 modes and 36 frequencies – effectively enabling global 5G multi-frequency coverage.
In 5G mode, Find X2 devices receive multiple channels of 5G and 4G signals simultaneously in order to establish the fastest and most stable connection. With Find X2 in hand, you’ll never need to worry about receiving any less than blazing fast 5G network speeds.
Experience 5G in full speed thanks to multi-dimensional network speed optimization – Find X2 series adopts 4*4 MIMO and HPUE technology across the full 5G bandwidth.
Antennas Designed for Optimal Reception
OPPO Find X2’s 360-degree surround antenna design intelligently matches the device’s physical position with the best antenna grouping. No more blocked signals – Find X2 delivers ideal reception at all times.
OPPO Find X2 series supports dual-antenna and dual-frequency WiFi so that priority is given to network connection when multiple users are simultaneously using the same WiFi connection, conveniently avoiding network congestion and maintaining optimal connectivity.
4 Find X2 Smart Functions
1. Power consumption optimization: To optimize power consumption, OPPO Find X2 automatically shifts between 4G and 5G networks, according to the smartphone’s temperature, battery, average network speed and application scenarios.
2. DSS (Dynamic Spectrum Sharing): OPPO is the world’s first mobile phone brand to incorporate DSS. By utilizing parts of the 4G network spectrum, users around the world are able to access 5G network at a faster rate and lower cost than other devices.
3. 5G + 5G Wi-Fi: OPPO Find X2 can download two applications at the same time – one using 5G WiFi and the other using 5G network, which theoretically brings the peak download speed up to a whopping 5.9Gbps.
4. NSA/SA Dual Mode: The ability to automatically shift between SA and NSA enables OPPO Find X2 to function at a faster and smoother rate.
Pascal536 said:
5G Coverage on OPPO Find X2
OPPO Find X2 Pro supports SA/NA dual mode 5G with global roaming capability in 6 modes and 36 frequencies – effectively enabling global 5G multi-frequency coverage.
In 5G mode, Find X2 devices receive multiple channels of 5G and 4G signals simultaneously in order to establish the fastest and most stable connection. With Find X2 in hand, you’ll never need to worry about receiving any less than blazing fast 5G network speeds.
Experience 5G in full speed thanks to multi-dimensional network speed optimization – Find X2 series adopts 4*4 MIMO and HPUE technology across the full 5G bandwidth.
Antennas Designed for Optimal Reception
OPPO Find X2’s 360-degree surround antenna design intelligently matches the device’s physical position with the best antenna grouping. No more blocked signals – Find X2 delivers ideal reception at all times.
OPPO Find X2 series supports dual-antenna and dual-frequency WiFi so that priority is given to network connection when multiple users are simultaneously using the same WiFi connection, conveniently avoiding network congestion and maintaining optimal connectivity.
4 Find X2 Smart Functions
1. Power consumption optimization: To optimize power consumption, OPPO Find X2 automatically shifts between 4G and 5G networks, according to the smartphone’s temperature, battery, average network speed and application scenarios.
2. DSS (Dynamic Spectrum Sharing): OPPO is the world’s first mobile phone brand to incorporate DSS. By utilizing parts of the 4G network spectrum, users around the world are able to access 5G network at a faster rate and lower cost than other devices.
3. 5G + 5G Wi-Fi: OPPO Find X2 can download two applications at the same time – one using 5G WiFi and the other using 5G network, which theoretically brings the peak download speed up to a whopping 5.9Gbps.
4. NSA/SA Dual Mode: The ability to automatically shift between SA and NSA enables OPPO Find X2 to function at a faster and smoother rate.
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Hi! Thanks, but I don't think this answers my initial question. This looks more like marketing copy-paste to me. AFAIK, the ability to work on SA doesn't automatically mean it can handle mmWave.
Announced with considerably less fanfare than the handsets, the Oppo 5G CPE (customer premises equipment) Omni, is a 5G router which gives allows people who have poor internet access, but good 5G coverage, fast Wi-Fi. A domestic hotspot. It also supports low power Bluetooth 4.1 and Zigbee 3.0. Like the handset, it uses a Qualcomm X55 modem supporting mmWave and sub GHz frequencies. This will work in both non-standalone and standalone 5G systems and with enough mmWave bandwidth can deliver 7.5Gbps, with the Wi-Fi running at up to 6 Gbps. There are two sets of antennas to haul in the best possible 5G signal. There are eight sub-6 GHz antennas set up to use the best four to work with 4x4 MIMO and an antenna gain of an impressive 6.7dBi. The mmWave antenna will rotate to get the best signal, ideally with beamforming, assuming the local network infrastructure supports this.
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I have a couple questions about EDGE technology.
1.) How much faster is EDGE over GPRS in actual real world enviroments?
2.) How well is the current EDGE network implementation in the United States?
3.) More specificaly how well is T-Mobile's?
4.) Is Edge in it's current state worth giving up other phone features for it?
5.) Why the hell does the United States have to be so stupid and always follow different standards than the rest of the world?
1. About 3 times.
2. Don't know - but in UK only one network - Orange - supports it and only then where they don't have UMTS (3G).
3. Don't know. They don't support it in UK though.
4. Probably not. UMTS is faster.
5. It's becoming less of a problem as more and more phones support the US implemetation of GSM (1900mhz) anyway alongside the rest of the world (900 and 1800mhz). Back in the bad old days of AMPS you were on your own.
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I have a couple questions about EDGE technology.
1.) How much faster is EDGE over GPRS in actual real world enviroments?
2.) How well is the current EDGE network implementation in the United States?
3.) More specificaly how well is T-Mobile's?
4.) Is Edge in it's current state worth giving up other phone features for it?
5.) Why the hell does the United States have to be so stupid and always follow different standards than the rest of the world?
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I see anywhere from 36kb/sec to 170kb/sec with EDGE connectivity in recent days while browsing the web from my T-mobile MDA. I use T-zones to connect to the internet and use the getmorespeed.voicestream.com proxy settings. I tend to see the higher range of speed when its my device that is transmitting - i.e. uploading a mail message with a picture.
The performance is pretty consistent between the Phoenix, Los Angeles/OC, and Las Vegas areas, although my phone tells me I'm "roaming" when I'm outside Phoenix. Since I'm still on the T-mobile network, its not really correct.
I have my MDA's registry hacked to show me the E or G icon and GPRS is DEFINITELY slower, with GPRS the fastest speed I've seen is maybe 36k. EDGE is faster but not super-fast.
If i understand LTE and radio stuff, 700Mhz is the lowest band used by verizon for its LTE service. 1x CDMA and EV-DO use higher bands. LTE should therefore have the best penetration into buildings and such. And if you have a 4G phone, it naturally attempts to prefer 4G LTE when possible.
So why is it that my phone is on 3G most of the time? Why would a 3G signal be easier for my phone to hang onto than 4G, when the band used for 4G travels better? Shouldnt it be falling up instead? Furthermore, why is it that when things are REALLY bad it can hang onto a "2G" signal (showing a 1X icon) since that uses even less penetrating frequencies?
The only thing I can think about is tower density and somehow verizon allocating more of its available spectrum to serve older networks. If thats the case then does anyone know if they will ever get with it and shutdown the older networks so that those of us with modern phones can stay on 4G all the time?
Yes I know LTE drains battery, but searching for signals and switching up and down is even worse!
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If i understand LTE and radio stuff, 700Mhz is the lowest band used by verizon for its LTE service. 1x CDMA and EV-DO use higher bands. LTE should therefore have the best penetration into buildings and such. And if you have a 4G phone, it naturally attempts to prefer 4G LTE when possible.
So why is it that my phone is on 3G most of the time? Why would a 3G signal be easier for my phone to hang onto than 4G, when the band used for 4G travels better? Shouldnt it be falling up instead? Furthermore, why is it that when things are REALLY bad it can hang onto a "2G" signal (showing a 1X icon) since that uses even less penetrating frequencies?
The only thing I can think about is tower density and somehow verizon allocating more of its available spectrum to serve older networks. If thats the case then does anyone know if they will ever get with it and shutdown the older networks so that those of us with modern phones can stay on 4G all the time?
Yes I know LTE drains battery, but searching for signals and switching up and down is even worse!
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Essentially, the frequency penetration is different no matter where you go based on a whole host of factors ranging from, building type (Materials used to construct the building), weather, interference from other radio devices and electronic equipment. Simply put a multitude of factors (A lot of which are beyond your control unfortunately) lead to some spots having great 4G LTE coverage and a spot that's a foot away having "2G" (1x). These articles might be of interest to you and answer some of your questions: Radio frequency, Frequency bandwidth, and Bandwidth efficiency. Hope this helps .
Hello fellow-members,
I just ordered my Nord, get the Device tomorrow! But i have a couple questions about the 5G.
How's the Nord handeling the 5G frequency?
How's the speed you are getting compared to 4G/LTE?
Are there specific settings you have to enable in the Nord for 5G?
Thnx in advance!
(ps i know its provider depended, but i like to know a little bit average)
This does not answer your question - but figured you might be interested in the following:
I am in the UK with a 5G contract but living in a 4G area.
When I enable the Auto 2G/3G/4G/5G mode on the nord my download speeds drop by around 50% - from the same location - testing over mutiple days.
If I put it back to Auto 2G/3G/4G the download speed increases again to normal higher speed.
In Auto 2G/3G/4G/5G I frequently see 'not connected to internet' messages when out and about in my locality - switching back to Auto 2G/3G/4G seems to resolve the issue.
I have not travelled to a 5G area to see what happens.
Thnx for your reply! After a vew days with the OP Nord in my hands i successfully can use 5G only speeds are a bit higher than 4G+, and sometimes lower. But all good here now
I'm on T-Mobile and I've noticed my phone alternating between 5G and LTE at random intervals. Both 5G and LTE are at 4 bars and I'm stationary. It's not really an issue because I didn't get this phone for 5G and the connection isn't dropping when it switches. Is anyone else experiencing this?
wvufankevin1991 said:
I'm on T-Mobile and I've noticed my phone alternating between 5G and LTE at random intervals. Both 5G and LTE are at 4 bars and I'm stationary. It's not really an issue because I didn't get this phone for 5G and the connection isn't dropping when it switches. Is anyone else experiencing this?
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Actually mine has shown 5g constantly since I got it. Even though it's not using 5g. Mine is fully converted to TMobile
Mine is doing the same..... it must depend on signal strength or something. What concerns me about it is that 5g and 5g mwav is suppose to have less issues with walls, so why are the phones not staying on 5g? something is causing the 5g signal to go in and out.... I noticed less of an issue outside than inside which would be normal I guess, but should not be an issue for Tmobile's 5g service.
I live in NYC and don't have this issue with my phone. Could it be a problem with your location/city?
Have you called t-mobile about it yet?
Maybe do a speed test when it switches to see if you get lower speeds on LTE, maybe that would show if it is really actually switching or just an icon issue as both have the same amount of bars.
How are y'all determining that you are actually connected to a 5G carrier ? For AT&T, they have put the 5G icon on the man screen for awhile so I was looking at the Mobile data network setting under SIM card status but have only seen LTE. Having said that, I have done speed test where I am getting 20ms latency and 60Mbps download speeds.
Here is where the old Nokia Field Test Mode would be useful.
petraviva said:
How are y'all determining that you are actually connected to a 5G carrier ? For AT&T, they have put the 5G icon on the man screen for awhile so I was looking at the Mobile data network setting under SIM card status but have only seen LTE. Having said that, I have done speed test where I am getting 20ms latency and 60Mbps download speeds.
Here is where the old Nokia Field Test Mode would be useful.
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Because, up were you have the bars that show how strong your signal is, it actually tells me when I am on 4G, 4G LTE or 5G, and at least one Tmob, do don't need a 5G enabled SIM, it should "Just work" if you have 5G service in your area and you are within range of a 5G equipt tower..... I also checked with apps like Open Signal and others to see what towers I am connecting to, etc.
5G download and upload speeds are crappy though....lol..... Should be broadband speeds and it is no were near that...
Hello, i finally bought a ROG Phone ZS673KS WW from a big electronic store franchise in my country, and the phone is working like a charm, but since the first moments i booted it up, i noticed that the 4G connection works really slow.
I did some tests in places I know for sure that got good band coverage (like at home and at my workplace) using the ROG Phone, my latest phone (a OnePlus 6) and another old smartphone i had laying around at home, and i saw that all the smartphones connect to the same band, and get the same coverage, but the ROG Phone get the download speed decimated for whatever reason (literally, it gets barely 10mbps while the other 2 phones get 100-120mbps).
Online i couldn't find any solution about that beside the suggestion to try and swap the SIM slot, but that didn't help, same results.
What can I do to solve that deal breaking problem?
Thanks in advance for the help, have a nice weekend everyone!!
SottoSopra666 said:
Hello, i finally bought a ROG Phone ZS673KS WW from a big electronic store franchise in my country, and the phone is working like a charm, but since the first moments i booted it up, i noticed that the 4G connection works really slow.
I did some tests in places I know for sure that got good band coverage (like at home and at my workplace) using the ROG Phone, my latest phone (a OnePlus 6) and another old smartphone i had laying around at home, and i saw that all the smartphones connect to the same band, and get the same coverage, but the ROG Phone get the download speed decimated for whatever reason (literally, it gets barely 10mbps while the other 2 phones get 100-120mbps).
Online i couldn't find any solution about that beside the suggestion to try and swap the SIM slot, but that didn't help, same results.
What can I do to solve that deal breaking problem?
Thanks in advance for the help, have a nice weekend everyone!!
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Have you installed the Sim card, then turn off the phone for 1 minute then turn it back on?
Trash.umu said:
Have you installed the Sim card, then turn off the phone for 1 minute then turn it back on?
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Yeah, tried also that with no results
SottoSopra666 said:
Yeah, tried also that with no results
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what happens if you turn off 5G? Unless 5g is already disabled.
I'll look at more info on the hardware specs for the different phones you have. I am not sure if they cheaped out on the antenna or not for the ROG 5 phone or not.
I know if you cover the antenna it messes up the signal.
It could also be the mode you phone is on. If your phone is set to save battery, it might not be using as much power through the antenna. Try messing with the setting and checking to see if any setting or hand placements actually affect the signal strength and data capability of your phone.
I did some test and I think it has to do with how the phone determines which data connection to use, so it is most likely a software issue rather than a hardware one. It does not use the actual fastest connection but rather it uses the highest level of connection.
Ex. If 5g is available even though it is slower, it will choose to run on 5g. If 4g is the highest connection you have, it will attempt to run on 4g. I ran my phone on 3/ 2G and had faster connections than with 4g or 5g.
It could also be based on signal strength rather than signal level. That being said, if the 4g or 5g connection is over crowded by users, using 3g/2g will be faster and more reliable than using 4g or 5g, but due to the signal strength being so high makes the phone chose the slower 4g/5g connection.
Since the volume of phones they create aren't as large as many other companies, I have a feeling they did not put much effort into this area of the phones software as other, more commonly used brands have.
Trash.umu said:
I did some test and I think it has to do with how the phone determines which data connection to use, so it is most likely a software issue rather than a hardware one. It does not use the actual fastest connection but rather it uses the highest level of connection.
Ex. If 5g is available even though it is slower, it will choose to run on 5g. If 4g is the highest connection you have, it will attempt to run on 4g. I ran my phone on 3/ 2G and had faster connections than with 4g or 5g.
It could also be based on signal strength rather than signal level. That being said, if the 4g or 5g connection is over crowded by users, using 3g/2g will be faster and more reliable than using 4g or 5g, but due to the signal strength being so high makes the phone chose the slower 4g/5g connection.
Since the volume of phones they create aren't as large as many other companies, I have a feeling they did not put much effort into this area of the phones software as other, more commonly used brands have.
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Yeah, tried disabling 5G (since where I live 5G doesn't exist yet) and that didn't change anything. Mmmmh if it's a software problem, sounds like something that could be potentially solved, but how this, if i tested it, and different phones connect to the same 4G band, and give a different result?
SottoSopra666 said:
Yeah, tried disabling 5G (since where I live 5G doesn't exist yet) and that didn't change anything. Mmmmh if it's a software problem, sounds like something that could be potentially solved, but how this, if i tested it, and different phones connect to the same 4G band, and give a different result?
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I assume that using a different phone using the same band and service indicates that either the antenna or the software is the issue.
It could be either the antenna or the software and I don't know a solution for either. It is possible if they did tune the software, they could potentially increase power to the antenna and increase it's output power at the cost of battery. I tried testing having my body close and far from the phone and it look like there wasn't much of a difference in signal strength.