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My F1 Global Version arrived this afternoon. I popped in my T-Mobile SIM and set the phone up. I've been using it for less than an hour.
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Voice works fine. I made multiple test calls with WiFi off. All sounded great.
Bad News:
So far I've not been able to get a data connection via 4G. It says I have service but pages won't open. I'll play around with it more.
Anyone else on T-Mobile in the US and able to get data?
EDIT: Data seems to be hit-miss. For the last 20 minutes data seems stable.
After about 10 hours of use, I can confirm that US T-Mobile users cannot get 4G on the F1. Even though it says it has an LTE connection.
Voice and 3G work fine. If you're planning to use this with data on T-Mobile, you might want to look elsewhere. I use mine mostly on WiFi so not a deal breaker for me.
I too am on T-Mo and live in Chicago. Voice sounds great. Same experience with data - the phone shows "4G" but I am getting 3G speeds. I've run Speedtest numerous ties, and I'm consistently getting 10 Mbps down, and a few up. Absolutely adequate for my needs (Spotify, email, etc.). In fact, Spotify runs so much faster than my previous phone, that it is a huge improvement for me. So, I've had the same experience, and for me, as well, 3G is not an issue.
Mike02z said:
After about 10 hours of use, I can confirm that US T-Mobile users cannot get 4G on the F1. Even though it says it has an LTE connection.
Voice and 3G work fine. If you're planning to use this with data on T-Mobile, you might want to look elsewhere. I use mine mostly on WiFi so not a deal breaker for me.
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My Speedtest results are attached. There's some variance, but about 10 Mbps down on 3G. Of note, the Wifi results are crazy, and easily 2x faster than my previously phone (LG V20) on the same exact network. In my experience, at both home and work, the Wifi on the F1 is ridiculously good.
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My Speedtest results are attached. There's some variance, but about 10 Mbps down on 3G. Of note, the Wifi results are crazy, and easily 2x faster than my previously phone (LG V20) on the same exact network. In my experience, at both home and work, the Wifi on the F1 is ridiculously good.
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I agree on the WiFi. I have FIOS gig service I'm getting 400 MB down and 450 up at home on WiFI. with the F1. Better than my S9+ or OnePlus 6
I'm very impressed by the F1. More so than I thought. Just waiting for my unlock code. I have not run into an app yet that has given me an issue. I'll be testing Android Auto later today when I get home. This is truly a nice phone at an amazing price. While no 4G is disappointing, I'm wondering if the band is there, just not turned on. Won't be the first time we have seen that.
Come on development!
Thanks for the follow-up. Also, although a little off topic, I'm interested in hearing about your experience with Android Auto. For me, "Ok Google" isn't currently working. I understand that's a Google issue, not a problem with the F1 (I hope). Haven't been able to text in the car, like I usually do, so I'm anxiously awaiting a fix for that!
My pocophone will not connect to T-Mobile. I have the correct APN settings and it does not connect. I'm surprised you guys are seeing connectivity. I'm in the new york area
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Thanks for the follow-up. Also, although a little off topic, I'm interested in hearing about your experience with Android Auto. For me, "Ok Google" isn't currently working. I understand that's a Google issue, not a problem with the F1 (I hope). Haven't been able to text in the car, like I usually do, so I'm anxiously awaiting a fix for that!
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Just information "OK Google" command already fixed on miui 10 8.9.11 closed global beta rom,,,
Thanks! Here's hoping the F1 updates to MIUI 10 soon!
Compared to my Mi A1 or Redmi 4X I don't get a LTE symbol here in austria (three), speed is probably mediocre.
Goldeneye185 said:
My pocophone will not connect to T-Mobile. I have the correct APN settings and it does not connect. I'm surprised you guys are seeing connectivity. I'm in the new york area
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Weird. Have you reset the phone with the SIM in? Selected USA as country?
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Weird. Have you reset the phone with the SIM in? Selected USA as country?
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I've done everything. I even unlocked the boot loader and still nothing. I downloaded the LTE discovery app and it will connect for 2 minutes then drop. I think it's a software issue. I'm on 9.6 build
Goldeneye185 said:
I've done everything. I even unlocked the boot loader and still nothing. I downloaded the LTE discovery app and it will connect for 2 minutes then drop. I think it's a software issue. I'm on 9.6 build
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So you can't get 2G or 3G? No TMo connectivity at all? Sorry for all the questions - I have a trip to NYC in December, and want to know if I'm going to have a problem!
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So you can't get 2G or 3G? No TMo connectivity at all? Sorry for all the questions - I have a trip to NYC in December, and want to know if I'm going to have a problem!
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I get 0 connectivity. No 2g or 3g. Nothing
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I get 0 connectivity. No 2g or 3g. Nothing
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I assume the SIM works in another phone? If not, could just be a bad SIM. If not, maybe you got a bum phone. I'm 60 miles from NYC and only LTE is not working.
It will be another day before I can test Android Auto. Wife has that car and working late tonight.
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I assume the SIM works in another phone? If not, could just be a bad SIM. If not, maybe you got a bum phone. I'm 60 miles from NYC and only LTE is not working.
It will be another day before I can test Android Auto. Wife has that car and working late tonight.
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My sim card is fine. It works just fine with my other phones including my new Xiaomi Mi max 3. I'm getting LTE connection. This is why I don't understand why this pocophone won't connect.
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My pocophone will not connect to T-Mobile. I have the correct APN settings and it does not connect. I'm surprised you guys are seeing connectivity. I'm in the new york area
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T-Mobile has Band 5 in limited markets (which F1 includes). 2, 4, and 12 are prevalent in NY. My current phone has B5 and I've never seen it connect to that band personally.
As for OP. 4G is probably HSPA (3G) but that's very slow. Can you use Network Signal Guru to confirm signal type?
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T-Mobile has Band 5 in limited markets (which F1 includes). 2, 4, and 12 are prevalent in NY. My current phone has B5 and I've never seen it connect to that band personally.
As for OP. 4G is probably HSPA (3G) but that's very slow. Can you use Network Signal Guru to confirm signal type?
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My phone is not rooted so network signal guru doesn't work. I did however install LTE discovery and that was a failure. The app didn't work because I wasn't connected to T-Mobile network
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My MIUI version: is 9.6.14.0
Model name: M1805E10A
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/AK6Pa/xiaomi-pocophone-f1-dual-sim-td-lte-cn-m1805e10a
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...im-td-lte-cn-m1805e10a/t-mobile-united-states
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My phone is not rooted so network signal guru doesn't work. I did however install LTE discovery and that was a failure. The app didn't work because I wasn't connected to T-Mobile network
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My MIUI version: is 9.6.14.0
Model name: M1805E10A
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/AK6Pa/xiaomi-pocophone-f1-dual-sim-td-lte-cn-m1805e10a
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...im-td-lte-cn-m1805e10a/t-mobile-united-states
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Same here. Got it yesterday and requested unlock code last night.
Post here for Canadian owners of the LG V60.
Anyone in Canada have 5g access? I don't have 5g in Nova Scotia. Wondering what people's thoughts are that have it.
Not in my neck of the woods. (Northern Ontario)
FYI, only Rogers has 5G network running in few cities.
Here's a map with the 5G antennas speedtest.net/ookla-5g-map
Just got April 2020 security patch on my Telus phone. Now at version 10n.
Bell is supposidly launching 5G in parts of NS soon. I dont know where exactly but I'm hoping halifax will be one of the spots.
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Bell is supposidly launching 5G in parts of NS soon. I dont know where exactly but I'm hoping halifax will be one of the spots.
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T Mobile has 5g all over United States Canada must be slow
There are 5g cities in the Huge cities like toronto and Vancouver, but the big telcos had to re look at hardware partners so the rollout got pushed out a year in some areas
Hello - I just upgraded my G7 to a V60 yesterday and I am loving the phone.
I would like to know if anyone else has noticed that the cell signal bars seem to be pretty low all the time. I am located in Mississauga at Winston Churchill and Eglington and I am only seeing 1-2 bars.
Has anyone found a workable screen protector for the exterior part of the dual screen?
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Hello - I just upgraded my G7 to a V60 yesterday and I am loving the phone.
I would like to know if anyone else has noticed that the cell signal bars seem to be pretty low all the time. I am located in Mississauga at Winston Churchill and Eglington and I am only seeing 1-2 bars.
Has anyone found a workable screen protector for the exterior part of the dual screen?
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That's cool, I'm at the same intersection of Mississauga! And yeah 5G with 1-2 bars
According to Bell's map - 5G coverage isn't in our area.
I did some messing around with another guys sim card - he's on rogers - and when I put his in it immediately jumped to 4-5 bars. So it seems to be an issue with the bell network coverage in the West end. In know that when I am inside the schools - Rogers phones work fine - Bell phones all seem to drop connection.
I may go in and get a new sim card - mine is really old - but I doubt that will fix anything.
In any case - the phone seems to be normal - and still very happy with it.
ThermoDyn said:
According to Bell's map - 5G coverage isn't in our area.
I did some messing around with another guys sim card - he's on rogers - and when I put his in it immediately jumped to 4-5 bars. So it seems to be an issue with the bell network coverage in the West end. In know that when I am inside the schools - Rogers phones work fine - Bell phones all seem to drop connection.
I may go in and get a new sim card - mine is really old - but I doubt that will fix anything.
In any case - the phone seems to be normal - and still very happy with it.
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Strange cause mine is saying 5g and the speeds are above 4g/LTE+ the *#*#4636#*#* also confirms I'm on the 5g downlink
Bought the V60 from Telus unlocked using it on Rogers i dont even have the option to select 5G , when i go to network> Mobile networks i only have GSM/WCDMA/LET. im i missing something ? Telus V60 should work with Rogers 5G right ?
Hi I have just bought an unlocked canadian variant LM-V600TM I think. On my update says 1st october security pach. Is this the last one ota update? The LG eta says android 11 come in december for our v60? Is that right?
It the phone discontinued in Canada? i don't see anyone selling it anymore
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Anyone in Canada have 5g access? I don't have 5g in Nova Scotia. Wondering what people's thoughts are that have it.
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Yeah! I live in Quebec near Matane and they have 5G there
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It the phone discontinued in Canada? i don't see anyone selling it anymore
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I've just bought the last V60 in a The Source location yesterday, but yeah the V60 doesn't appear anywhere now. I think they stop to sell this phone.
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It the phone discontinued in Canada? i don't see anyone selling it anymore
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Try Amazon.ca. That's where I bought mine. It's a Sprint/Tmo version which you can debloat. Cheaper as well.
any idea about when we get android 11? not that it matters because it's mostly cosmetic at this point anyway
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any idea about when we get android 11? not that it matters because it's mostly cosmetic at this point anyway
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I got mine last week but I had the Tmo version running on Bell network. I would say avoid the update for now as there's an issue with battery drain. You can search it up and it's not limited to LG V60. It affects Pixel devices as well.
Is anyone else getting freezing using chrome browser? If so what browser do you recommend? I've tried Firefox to and Opera for some reason this phone hates. I don't get why this phone is so slow. Mine takes a minute to process anything. Really hope they fix these software hickups. I guess FR but that would be a big job. The battery consumption seems to be the only best feature on this phone.
Yes, seems like it's a OnePlus problem. No one has a solution that I've seen yet.
I just minimize Chrome and reopen it and it works again.
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Yes, seems like it's a OnePlus problem. No one has a solution that I've seen yet.
I just minimize Chrome and reopen it and it works again.
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It's not just on this phone. I just came from the Essential phone and Chrome's been doing that for months. It's Chrome, not the phone. I don't think the built in webview is playing nice with the os. Maybe try Chrome beta?
Question: are you using a custom DNS or VPN?
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It's not just on this phone. I just came from the Essential phone and Chrome's been doing that for months. It's Chrome, not the phone. I don't think the built in webview is playing nice with the os. Maybe try Chrome beta?
Question: are you using a custom DNS or VPN?
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It's also happening to me, I don't use any VPNs nor DNS. I think this is a OnePlus Problem, maybe they'll address it in the next update. Let's report this problem guys
Edit : I'm not on a Verizon version, mine is IN2010
Funny thing is whenever chrome freezes, going to the home screen and returning back to the app fixes the issue ??*
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It's also happening to me, I don't use any VPNs nor DNS. I think this is a OnePlus Problem, maybe they'll address it in the next update. Let's report this problem guys
Edit : I'm not on a Verizon version, mine is IN2010
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It's not OnePlus, it's Chrome. Acts the same way on the Essential PH-1. Try Safari or Microsoft Edge browser, or any one that uses Android web view.
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Funny thing is whenever chrome freezes, going to the home screen and returning back to the app fixes the issue ??*
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Same here
Any fix?
Sent from my IN2015 using Tapatalk
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Any fix?
Sent from my IN2015 using Tapatalk
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The fix is to install another web browser, then go to apps in the settings and inactivate Chrome. Haven't had single hickup since I did this.
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The fix is to install another web browser, then go to apps in the settings and inactivate Chrome. Haven't had single hickup since I did this.
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Nice. Glad I came across this noticed it instantly when I first got this phone back in April course I couldn't find anything about it then. And oddly it seems like it is way worse and 90htz. Was about to return too vzw. Honestly was thinking it may be a device issue Till I read posts Any suggestions? Gonna try brave
Not really sure where to ask this question but Verizon OnePlus 8 UW. No root or anything outta the norm. Constantly having intermittent data loss, intermittent hotspot loss, calls and texts as well I'm sure since they pushed an update couple weeks back. Message I get from there network troubleshooter says( Your phone can't auto switch too a faster network if it's available. Your better off too use Cdma/Lte or global mode for better signal strength). Far as I know Cdma had been reserved for EMT/Fire etc. Problem seems too arise only when the silly 5g icon comes up. So thinking when it tries too switch too 5g its having that intermittent loss going back to global mode an getting hung up somehow as a simple restart fixes it temporarily. If I was rooted I believe a prl or apn change would fix it maybe. So tired of dealing with Verizon techs, Any help it fix would be great
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Not really sure where to ask this question but Verizon OnePlus 8 UW. No root or anything outta the norm. Constantly having intermittent data loss, intermittent hotspot loss, calls and texts as well I'm sure since they pushed an update couple weeks back. Message I get from there network troubleshooter says( Your phone can't auto switch too a faster network if it's available. Your better off too use Cdma/Lte or global mode for better signal strength). Far as I know Cdma had been reserved for EMT/Fire etc. Problem seems too arise only when the silly 5g icon comes up. So thinking when it tries too switch too 5g its having that intermittent loss going back to global mode an getting hung up somehow as a simple restart fixes it temporarily. If I was rooted I believe a prl or apn change would fix it maybe. So tired of dealing with Verizon techs, Any help it fix would be great
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Got this same issue
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Got this same issue
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Sorry ta hear I've done a lot of searching and can't seem to resolve it. Dealing with Verizon it's just getting so old I believe I'm going to just try an root, flash, etc. That or go T-Mobile. If I may ask are you in the States? I'm in Florida btw. Very populated city Clearwater is a big fact and it's a problem all around
I've had Verizon family plan for 20 years now. So I have to deal with it. I remember buying old Galaxy s3 and moding the hell out of it. But I'm older and don't have time like I did when I was younger so I'm stuck. The problems on my OP8 5G UW just accelerated. I'm pretty sure it's software related. Last system update was a "network improvements" haha- yeah right! Since after I've been in hours and hours in Verizon chats, calls, I've spoke to OnePlus techs, I've done replacements, sim swaps, clean resets. Nothing is working to resolve my 1mbps download speed network is slow as hell, 17 Meg's 20 min. Tomorrow I'm talking Verizon tech to get my 4th replacement turned in and hopefully get a Galaxy S10 FE. I always wanted ONEPLUS but not this way. I'm done
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Sorry ta hear I've done a lot of searching and can't seem to resolve it. Dealing with Verizon it's just getting so old I believe I'm going to just try an root, flash, etc. That or go T-Mobile. If I may ask are you in the States? I'm in Florida btw. Very populated city Clearwater is a big fact and it's a problem all around
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I'm in Frederic Michigan, near Grayling. Rural area, but Verizon is king up here. And, with a low population density, I've had really great service for years. Up until recently. Wife has a Galaxy Note 9 and doesn't have half the issues.
So update. I wasn't allowed to move on to another phone with old big red. I exhausted my replacements with Verizon my only option now is to pay this off and move on. I did get some slight improvements turning the automatic to manual in Network Mode. It seems like I don't have the constant 5g/4g fight. As for original topic, I use the Samsung browser and I don't have any hanging or freezing.
Yea I'm kinda and the same boat got a phone didn't work good paid it off early got the OnePlus and now this I did switch to manual too and it helped a little bit. But not a lot we can do I definitely won't be buying any more Vzw phones. I can't even maintain consistent hotspot for over 30 40 minutes ever since past update. I have the 5G icon now that's not really 5G speed at all. I've gotten true 5G on this phone a couple times and it's amazingly fast. The 5G icon fades an drops too 4g when it does it kicks me off discos hotspot an network sometimes. I just don't have the will to deal with tier 3 tech anymore lol. I had prepaid for seven years with Verizon and it worked flawless many different phones over the years soon as I got postpaid went to hell
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Sorry ta hear I've done a lot of searching and can't seem to resolve it. Dealing with Verizon it's just getting so old I believe I'm going to just try an root, flash, etc. That or go T-Mobile. If I may ask are you in the States? I'm in Florida btw. Very populated city Clearwater is a big fact and it's a problem all around
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I'm in New Orleans and delt with all Network connection problems too. I'm on my 3 rd replacement and spent hours, days, and weeks ping-ponging through Verizon finest bull**** techs, Verizon sent me to OnePlus tech where the tech there referred me CDMA LESS and after a long work about found out that I was already on CDMA LESS. The only thing that helped other than bazilion factory resets and it's not the solution by any means is turn the automatic best Network set it to manual Verizon 4g. You still get the stupid 5g emblem but I've noticed an improvement as in connectivity. Not stable, I get interference and dropped calls all the time. Also i read something on how Verizon used cheaper antennas for their fake 5g push. Also could this be a conflict with Oxygen? I'm reading a lot of similar Network issues after updates.
Right on thanks, Not sure if manual mode actually sticks. Does it just switch back? But yes I too figured it'd help out. When I do let's say Run a diagnostic from Verizon's app one of the first things it says is this phone cannot auto connect to use lte/cdma for better signal. And that's wild it's connected and automatic mode. So it's obvious it's a hardware issue or software issue on their end. If they would allow you to control the phone we could fix it. Just got my first replacement today. Fixing the boot it up soon and see what the deal is software wise etc etc. The connectivity issue were both having is just 1 issue lol. I've got six or eight more easy. Mine seems like it's good data connection wise either with the fake 5g icon or without it. Bars will start fluctuating pretty rapidly (It's searching) I'll lose the 5G icon in turn lose hotspot lose date connection etc. Then it will come back with no 5G icon, connect, Be gr8 for about 10min or I reset prl & net setting. Someone tell me there 5g for most parts like here & there is basically just a glorified 4G LTE. There 5g coverage map clearly says or did there's no 5g here. I believe this to be true as I have connected to real vzw 5g in Tampa an you can tell big time!! This 5g even with there signal booster they sent me is not any if all better than 4g. Could kinda care less about the 5g it's the consistent intermittent network issues. Pls lmk what you find out either by p.m. or what have ya. I'll do the same. I'm gonna try this new vzw root I believe an switch too global or whatever I need too do weather it voids certain things or not lol. Sorry 4 the long read but wanted give ya what I knew. Here's a shot of there diagnostic mess. From vzw. An a shot of real 5g speed test before the updated deal that displays the 5g icon
Hi everyone. I purchased a OnePlus 8 5G directly from OnePlus, running on the T-Mobile network. After trying to figure out why I didn't receive the T-Mobile 5G SA update (10.5.17.IN55CB), I realized my phone is running the international version of the software. I guess this is because it's factory unlocked but I didn't realize this would limit my access to T-Mobile 5G updates! I never travel internationally and don't really care about an unlocked bootloader, etc. as long as the SIM is unlocked.
Can I manually download and install the T-Mobile software so I will get the 5G SA update (and future T-Mobile OTA updates)?
i was also wondering if that would make a difference. maybe someone could provide the modem.img from that update, if it changed. flashing the euro modem on the international rom definitely made a difference for me. not really with speed but overall coverage and stability.
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Hi everyone. I purchased a OnePlus 8 5G directly from OnePlus, running on the T-Mobile network. After trying to figure out why I didn't receive the T-Mobile 5G SA update (10.5.17.IN55CB), I realized my phone is running the international version of the software. I guess this is because it's factory unlocked but I didn't realize this would limit my access to T-Mobile 5G updates! I never travel internationally and don't really care about an unlocked bootloader, etc. as long as the SIM is unlocked.
Can I manually download and install the T-Mobile software so I will get the 5G SA update (and future T-Mobile OTA updates)?
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Right now you dont want it. It breaks incoming and outgoing phone calls.
Seems they pulled the update as well
Guys I'm on TMO but switched over to global voluntarily. Honestly check out TMO 5G info and you'll find it's not as great as you think. It's the beginning of a software change. Veteran modders know the beginning of updates have a lot of bugs.
If you really want it then get the MSM Tool, downgrade to 10.5.7 and let it upgrade you manually to 10.5.17. then you can get back to global if you'd like with the modem. Happy modding!
Thanks, it sounds like it was premature. I live in a rural area and my main concerns are 1) better (not reliant on LTE) 600Mhz coverage and 2) lower latency.
Do you think the global software line will get an SA update down the road? Are there any other difference between the global and T-Mobile line of software that would affect my coverage performance with LTE or 5G?
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Thanks, it sounds like it was premature. I live in a rural area and my main concerns are 1) better (not reliant on LTE) 600Mhz coverage and 2) lower latency.
Do you think the global software line will get an SA update down the road? Are there any other difference between the global and T-Mobile line of software that would affect my coverage performance with LTE or 5G?
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Great question, This is my first OnePlus phone so I can't tell you if and when gonna will get the update. What I have heard of that TMO is rolling out 5G in several layers. This first one is pretty low key but it had some books already. Second and third would be better. I guess check around here to see more about it. If you are absolutely sure you want this update then you can use MSM took to downgrade then just let the TMO servers do the work for you. Happy modding!
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Thanks, it sounds like it was premature. I live in a rural area and my main concerns are 1) better (not reliant on LTE) 600Mhz coverage and 2) lower latency.
Do you think the global software line will get an SA update down the road? Are there any other difference between the global and T-Mobile line of software that would affect my coverage performance with LTE or 5G?
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I would be surprised if the global version got an update for SA 5g. That's TMO specific and OnePlus would have zero care about a specific carrier of all the world's carriers .
There are differences in modems according to TMobile. I can't remember specifics but I think it was carrier aggregation on band 66 ( I don't remember much so I may be way off)
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I would be surprised if the global version got an update for SA 5g. That's TMO specific and OnePlus would have zero care about a specific carrier of all the world's carriers .
There are differences in modems according to TMobile. I can't remember specifics but I think it was carrier aggregation on band 66 ( I don't remember much so I may be way off)
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Yeah, I figured that was unlikely with the global version, although I'm sure carriers across the world will begin deploying SA 5G at some point.
I was going to start a new thread but after you notes about the modem differences, this might relate to another issue I've noticed: When connected to Band 2 (1900 Mhz) with LTE or 5G, I was getting really good speeds (~30Mbps Down/5Mbps Up). Now, when I test using 5G or LTE (by turning off 5G) my speed tests are horrible: ~1Mbps Down/0.7Mbps Up. I have tested with "Smart 5G" on and off, and also removed and reinstalled the SIM card. If I pop the SIM card out and put it back into my Pixel 2, I get 30Mpbs Down/5Mpbs Up with LTE on Band 2. My Pixel 2 was purchased directly from Google and is factory unlocked/direct Google updates.
Do you think this is because of the carrier agg issue you mentioned? In my area Band 4/Band 66 is only used for T-Mobile 2G/3G, to my knowledge. LTE is offered on Bands 2, 12, and 71. 5G NR seems to only be on Band 71 here at present.
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I would be surprised if the global version got an update for SA 5g. That's TMO specific and OnePlus would have zero care about a specific carrier of all the world's carriers .
There are differences in modems according to TMobile. I can't remember specifics but I think it was carrier aggregation on band 66 ( I don't remember much so I may be way off)
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Josh, not often this happens, but I disagree with what you say here. Normally I agree with everything you post. However, this time I have to disagree.
5G SA is not at all T-Mo specific and is a standardized implementation for carriers should they choose to go that route.
However, OnePlus caring about it is up in the air, lulz!
See here: https://ibasis.com/what-is-5g-sa-nsa/
5G SA means stand alone. This means that the device will only ride on 5G and not aggregate with 4G.
If I am wrong please correct me. Thanks!
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If you are absolutely sure you want this update then you can use MSM took to downgrade then just let the TMO servers do the work for you.
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I and many others posted that they cannot get the update. Those that did said they had connectivity issues. I suspect that T-Mo pulled the update. I don't know this for fact, however I cannot get the update. T-Mo site says check back after 8/31. That's crazy weird. Others also complain. I think the update is borked hence the lack of wide roll out. . Again, dont know this for fact but just speculating...
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Josh, not often this happens, but I disagree with what you say here. Normally I agree with everything you post. However, this time I have to disagree.
5G SA is not at all T-Mo specific and is a standardized implementation for carriers should they choose to go that route.
However, OnePlus caring about it is up in the air, lulz!
See here: https://ibasis.com/what-is-5g-sa-nsa/
5G SA means stand alone. This means that the device will only ride on 5G and not aggregate with 4G.
If I am wrong please correct me. Thanks!
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For sure. I do stand corrected here on SA. I was referring to the specific bands that TMobile uses for SA 5g vs world bands SA 5g but who knows if that's impossible but I, like you, think that OP will not care about it or would screw it up.
As for the modem differences, I was referring to an older post from TMobile on their forums during the 6t launch days so I can't really remember exactly what it was. I think if you searched my posts from way you could find it
Speaking of, I am incredibly disappointed in tmos 5g. I'm lucky to get 20 dl. Are you having any better luck
Scott said:
Josh, not often this happens, but I disagree with what you say here. Normally I agree with everything you post. However, this time I have to disagree.
5G SA is not at all T-Mo specific and is a standardized implementation for carriers should they choose to go that route.
However, OnePlus caring about it is up in the air, lulz!
See here: https://ibasis.com/what-is-5g-sa-nsa/
5G SA means stand alone. This means that the device will only ride on 5G and not aggregate with 4G.
If I am wrong please correct me. Thanks!
I and many others posted that they cannot get the update. Those that did said they had connectivity issues. I suspect that T-Mo pulled the update. I don't know this for fact, however I cannot get the update. T-Mo site says check back after 8/31. That's crazy weird. Others also complain. I think the update is borked hence the lack of wide roll out. . Again, dont know this for fact but just speculating...
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Yeah I think you are right. As soon as it was available it became unavailable. They will roll it out when those bugs are fixed. This is one of the reasons I don't like TMO stock. They are buggy and slow to update. Not to mention all the bloatware.
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Speaking of, I am incredibly disappointed in tmos 5g. I'm lucky to get 20 dl. Are you having any better luck
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I am EXTREMLEY disappointed
History of my observations...
When I first switched to T-Mobile with the 6T the speeds were great. Well, decent. But around the time the S20 series came out I noticed extreme sluggishness with the 6T. Compared it to the people in the store and there's wer the same. A massive down turn in speed. I suspect it had something to do with the implementation of 5G in the area. It was my guess... Anways, moved back to T-Mobile two months ago and got this phone. The speeds are even worse. So this phone on 5G is just as bad as LTE. I disabled 5G and tested. Same results.
Long story short, T-mobile did something and slowed my connection down.
Your lucky. Very luck. I routinely get 2 to 5 mbs when I am home. In town I dont think I got over 25Mbs. AT&T has the best network in Fargo. 200MBS down on S20U all day!
I have two brand new moto 5g 2022 phones for me and my wife and they both do everything but work right. You can call someone and they answer but you cannot hear them, as they answer their phone, my phone just keeps ringing while they keep saying hello. Other times it calls and won't even ring.They do all kinds of different things and sometimes even do work but when they do you can hardly hear each other. I should say we got these phones because our old phones did almost the same thing. They were so old they only got 2g and 3g so we upgraded to these. Also I checked the 5g map and it shows we have 5g ultra coverage in my area, also attached the file showing the area.
Thank you for anyone that can help with this problem.
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I have two brand new moto 5g 2022 phones for me and my wife and they both do everything but work right. You can call someone and they answer but you cannot hear them, as they answer their phone, my phone just keeps ringing while they keep saying hello. Other times it calls and won't even ring.They do all kinds of different things and sometimes even do work but when they do you can hardly hear each other. I should say we got these phones because our old phones did almost the same thing. They were so old they only got 2g and 3g so we upgraded to these. Also I checked the 5g map and it shows we have 5g ultra coverage in my area, also attached the file showing the area.
Thank you for anyone that can help with this problem.
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Is this only happening at home? while connected to wifi?
If so try disabling wifi calling.
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Is this only happening at home? while connected to wifi?
If so try disabling wifi calling.
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No it happens everywhere. The phone is on cellular preferred.
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No it happens everywhere. The phone is on cellular preferred.
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I disabled wifi and same result. I have also rebooted both phones and disabled some apps that were transferred from the other phones.
That's crazy because ever since ive had my 2021 version of the phone, the EXACT same issues have occurred since day one. got the phone in Nov 2021 and still have so many issues with Tmobile towers. Tmobile has a huge handover issue with 5g SA and NSA. Old sprint towers that are still up and running on LTE only, work 100% with no issues, all other towers by 310260 that are configured for CA (carrier aggregation), whether its fdd or tdd ca doesnt matter, I have to airplane mode off then on, wait for the tower to connect, turn off data, wait 5 or so secs and turn data back on, go to the debug menu for the phone *#*#4636#*#* and go to phone information, go down to where it says Ping Test and hit it, make sure that BOTH ipv4 and ipv6 are passing the test. If only ipv6 is passing, then repeat the process until they both connect. This is the only way im able to tell if the tunnel is connected correctly to Tmo. I know HUGE pain in the A but that is the ONLY resolution i have found for this, tmo doesnt care, i have had 20+ tickets opened up and not 1 of them were ever resolved and instantly closed the tkt.
People have claimed that after rooting the phone and installing a custom rom with android 12, that all of the issues are resolved, however I am one of the unlucky people with the xt2131-1 device that will not allow anything other than the stock rom to be installed, bootloader unlocked and rooted but will not allow a custom rom. Last Moto phone I am ever buying.
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That's crazy because ever since ive had my 2021 version of the phone, the EXACT same issues have occurred since day one. got the phone in Nov 2021 and still have so many issues with Tmobile towers. Tmobile has a huge handover issue with 5g SA and NSA. Old sprint towers that are still up and running on LTE only, work 100% with no issues, all other towers by 310260 that are configured for CA (carrier aggregation), whether its fdd or tdd ca doesnt matter, I have to airplane mode off then on, wait for the tower to connect, turn off data, wait 5 or so secs and turn data back on, go to the debug menu for the phone *#*#4636#*#* and go to phone information, go down to where it says Ping Test and hit it, make sure that BOTH ipv4 and ipv6 are passing the test. If only ipv6 is passing, then repeat the process until they both connect. This is the only way im able to tell if the tunnel is connected correctly to Tmo. I know HUGE pain in the A but that is the ONLY resolution i have found for this, tmo doesnt care, i have had 20+ tickets opened up and not 1 of them were ever resolved and instantly closed the tkt.
People have claimed that after rooting the phone and installing a custom rom with android 12, that all of the issues are resolved, however I am one of the unlucky people with the xt2131-1 device that will not allow anything other than the stock rom to be installed, bootloader unlocked and rooted but will not allow a custom rom. Last Moto phone I am ever buying.
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Thank you for the info, I thought it might be t-mobil itself since the old ones and the new ones are doing the same thing. I did get the one phone to upgrade to android 13 but the other one which is the same phone will not. It still did not make any difference.