Saving a TWRP backup local or USB - Android General

So I created a TWRP backup of my 2013 Nexus 7 which saved the file locally. The backup folder is around 3.4GB in size. I've take a copy of that folder and stored it on my cloud backup. Question is should I keep the original local copy of the backup folder on the Nexus 7 itself? I could restore it from a mounted usb if I ever needed to restore it right? Although I have around 20GB space left on the device, wondering if keeping unnecessary large files locally can potentially clog up and make the tablet a bit slower? Considering its an old tablet, I want to try and give it max possible chance of not becoming too laggy

ahmed123 said:
So I created a TWRP backup of my 2013 Nexus 7 which saved the file locally. The backup folder is around 3.4GB in size. I've take a copy of that folder and stored it on my cloud backup. Question is should I keep the original local copy of the backup folder on the Nexus 7 itself? I could restore it from a mounted usb if I ever needed to restore it right? Although I have around 20GB space left on the device, wondering if keeping unnecessary large files locally can potentially clog up and make the tablet a bit slower? Considering its an old tablet, I want to try and give it max possible chance of not becoming too laggy
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I don't suggest storing the backup in your internal storage. Typically, it is best to store the backup externally but the Nexus 7 doesn't have a sdcard slot. This means that you can use a USB flash drive or a sdcard with a USB card reader are your best options.
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Droidriven said:
I don't suggest storing the backup in your internal storage. Typically, it is best to store the backup externally but the Nexus 7 doesn't have a sdcard slot. This means that you can use a USB flash drive or a sdcard with a USB card reader are your best options.
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Thank you. Should I delete it from TWRP or just use a file explorer and delete it from the TWRP folder?

ahmed123 said:
Thank you. Should I delete it from TWRP or just use a file explorer and delete it from the TWRP folder?
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No, you can leave it, if you ever need to use it and can access internal storage via TWRP, you can restore the backup from the device's internal storage without needing the USB. Storing it on USB is just a safeguard in case you end up in a situation where you can access TWRP but can't get TWRP to see your internal storage, in this case, you would use the USB to restore the backup. Sometimes internal storage gets corrupted, ruining any backups that were stored there, that is the purpose behind using a USB or sdcard, to ensure that you have a way to access and restore the backup.
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[Q] What is the best way for me to do a full backup?

What is the best way for me to do a full backup, given that there is no sd card. Does that data stay after a wipe? this is pre root. Previously I would use astro, but I'm not sure of the no sd issue. Guess I can mount and backup to pc.
Any suggestions?
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There is an sd card...just that's its internal. The data stored in the sd card is safe after you flash new rom's after a wipe.
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Thanks.
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The best way to back up your things are to connect it to your computer and simply move whatever you have in your internal SD to your desktop or wherever you'd like to save it to. That way if anything should go wrong you have it on your computer
rborg said:
What is the best way for me to do a full backup, given that there is no sd card. Does that data stay after a wipe? this is pre root. Previously I would use astro, but I'm not sure of the no sd issue. Guess I can mount and backup to pc.
Any suggestions?
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You can back it up to the Cloud
if you have Titanium Backup PRO
you have the option to backup to Drop Box
you get a FREE 2GB, when you sign up
which is more than enough, since our internal memory is only 1 GB to backup
He's pre-root, so Tit Pro won't work, as it requires root.
Since he's PRE-ROOT, he will lose everything on the internal sd card if he tries to do the FASTBOOT OEM UNLOCK command to root.
Best thing you can do right now is plug up to USB on the computer, copy all contents to your computer and copy back after rooting/restoring.
The internal sd card is safe from a "factory reset" kind of wipe but NOT SAFE from a bootloader unlock.
AllGamer said:
You can back it up to the Cloud
if you have Titanium Backup PRO
you have the option to backup to Drop Box
you get a FREE 2GB, when you sign up
which is more than enough, since our internal memory is only 1 GB to backup
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yeap, that's the only Drag in the NS rooting method
back in the SGS it was so straight forward, just unroot, and you are done, you don't even need to reboot the phone
much less Format the whole thing, just to get root
Ok, good thing I waited. It's a ***** to export app settings too. Now to pick a good rom.
Thanks for the help.
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OK, copying internal SD contents is easy. But how to make a backup of things from internal storage?
haerwu said:
OK, copying internal SD contents is easy. But how to make a backup of things from internal storage?
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You can't. There's no way.
This is why many of us rooted ASAP, to avoid accumulating data (like Angry Birds progess, LOL) that we would lose once we rooted.
There are apps to backup SMS messages, and your contacts, calendars, etc, should backup to the cloud. All you're going to lose is apps data that isn't saved by the app to the sdcard.

Full Android backup to PC possible?

Hello I wonder if making a full phone backup to PC's hard drive would be possible...I mean something similar to Acronis trueimage of Windows partition...but do this on phone with exclusion of the main firmware. Because of no SDcard slot I need store everything to connected PC HDD...
Looked at TitaniumBackup which probably is close to what I need but I'm afraid it lacks support for storing to networked location. Any working solution is highly appreciated
bflmpsvz said:
Hello I wonder if making a full phone backup to PC's hard drive would be possible...I mean something similar to Acronis trueimage of Windows partition...but do this on phone with exclusion of the main firmware. Because of no SDcard slot I need store everything to connected PC HDD...
Looked at TitaniumBackup which probably is close to what I need but I'm afraid it lacks support for storing to networked location. Any working solution is highly appreciated
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Take backup using Cwm and u can reflash it using ir phone again.
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You need to root (gain root/superuser access) your device and install a custom recovery. Clockwork Mod is one of the (CWM), TWRP is another (having used both, I prefer TWRP - but you can try either/both yourself). You can then copy or cut the backed-up files from the recovery's folder to your computer.
Thanks, probably give it a try if anything else fails. Would it be possible to mount a windows shared drive to phone's internal filesystem? So that TB could access it as internal folder...
use nandroid backup (cwm)
you must root your device
backup cwm will get what you want
or you can try this GO Backup Pro 2.9
http://www.1mobile.com/go-backup-pro-550518.html
Thanks for your suggestion
LEON_HEART said:
backup cwm will get what you want
or you can try this GO Backup Pro 2.9
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Thanks for the advices. I finally managed to install CWM
CWM's backup = Nandroid?
This works for SDcard, however the condition to backup directly to my PC's hard drive is not met
Remember I suffer with lack of space on builtin SDcard so I need to exclude it from backup process at all even as temporary location.
One more question about CWM, where can I find the latest version? I have 6.0.1.2.
bflmpsvz said:
Thanks for the advices. I finally managed to install CWM
CWM's backup = Nandroid?
This works for SDcard, however the condition to backup directly to my PC's hard drive is not met
Remember I suffer with lack of space on builtin SDcard so I need to exclude it from backup process at all even as temporary location.
One more question about CWM, where can I find the latest version? I have 6.0.1.2.
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Yeah, you need to be able to access files in the phone not on sd card, the phone has a seperate memory he wants to access, I think he is asking how to put the phone (everything) onto PC.... im not sure how to do this myself but I will look into it for you, I believe you can access that info but im not sure where the files you want are.
The backup is saved into /sdcard/clockworkmod/blob/ but the problem I have with it is that used soace in internal memory is over 1.5GB while free space on Sdcard is usually several 100s MB...
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[Q] when trying to backup through TWRP my data size is 4.5G !!!! how could it be

hello
I move from Nexus S to Nexus 5
I am familier with TWRP and backing up my device
but i have never had to clear almost half of my storage for backing up my device
and i used to fill it with lots of app some of them with additional files over 1G (Asphalt 7 for example)
i can guess it maybe because of file system or something like this,
as in the Nexus S you connect your system to the computer in a different way and could move apps to SDcard and now everything is in the same place so the "data" get very large
so what one should do? should i uninstall large apps ? should i move titanium backup files ?
it all sound ridiculous to me cause it misses the point of the backup
please Help
what do you expect with so much data? enable compression in twrp recovery, maybe itll be a smaller of a backup? my backups are about 2gb in size.
i expected the backup not to backup unimportant files the same as it does not backup photos and videos.
games files and other large file should not be backed up as they have no meaning the game will download them again after restore if it needs
is there a way to install game sto the SDcard?
Zivonche said:
i expected the backup not to backup unimportant files the same as it does not backup photos and videos.
games files and other large file should not be backed up as they have no meaning the game will download them again after restore if it needs
is there a way to install game sto the SDcard?
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games are installed to your "sd".
apps2sd hasnt been done on a nexus since the nexus s days. thats because they only gave a limited amount a space that you can install apps to. nowadays youre only limited to the amount of total storage space the phone comes with. and every time i restore a backup, my game data gets restored as well, so i dont have to redownload it.
Twrp backs up /system and /data ignoring the sdcard 'section'
Moving your Titanium Backups will do nothing to save your space from your backup because the backup is saved on your sdcard section
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if its better for you, clear the data for those large games then make a backup. then redownload the data.
ok thanks
i cleared the play music cash save myself a :1.5G
but still data is 2.9G
i am looking for the other large files right now
keep on with the ideas please
Zivonche said:
ok thanks
i cleared the play music cash save myself a :1.5G
but still data is 2.9G
i am looking for the other large files right now
keep on with the ideas please
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That's about average for my backups
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Pirateghost said:
That's about average for my backups
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on that you need to add the /system which is 1G itself so it is still close to 4 giga total
Pirateghost said:
Twrp backs up /system and /data ignoring the sdcard 'section'
Moving your Titanium Backups will do nothing to save your space from your backup because the backup is saved on your sdcard section
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it seems that you are not correct
i cheack my /data folder size using root explorer and its 8.45G that means WTRP backing up only some folders inside /data
anyone knows what are those folders?
Zivonche said:
on that you need to add the /system which is 1G itself so it is still close to 4 giga total
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You must have a ton of apps, games and data. My nandroids are about 2.4 g total
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My CWM backups are just south of 1 gig. Granted I don't have a lot of large apps like games on there. With CWM I just mount OTG via recovery(actually it self mounts) and backup to my Meenova card reader. Its got a 64GB micro sdcard in it so space isn't a concern. It might be an option for you. You can also just use a cheap USB to Micro USB cable and a spare memory stick that most people have laying around these days.
You can do fine grained backups via Titanium backup if you don't want backups of the whole system. Otherwise just plugin an external USB stick and save your backup there. You just have to mount it. I've got enough space on my external sd in my galaxy note 2 so I never tried but I just had a look in TWRP and I saw that I just have to select the destination for the backup on the otg device so I think it would solve your problems and you should just try it. Hope this can help you. best regards Martin
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Zivonche said:
it seems that you are not correct
i cheack my /data folder size using root explorer and its 8.45G that means WTRP backing up only some folders inside /data
anyone knows what are those folders?
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Please tell me you haven't been dumb enough to check the properties of /data
/data/media/0 is a mount point of the SD card partition 8.45GB is what everything on your phone is minus /system
And no sdcard by default doesn't get backed up in twrp when you back up /data that mount point will be empty.
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[Q] [HELP] Deleted storage/emulated and now all my photos disappeared

I seem to be having the same problem as this except(android.stackexchange.com/questions/61531/removed-storage-emulated-0-file-and-lost-access-to-all-files) there was never a solution. I tried remaking the folders and restarting the phone but that didn't work.
Can anybody help me out?
Soooo you wiped internal storage? Pictures are gone... Best bet is to try Disk Digger or some similar app and see if it works. Also make a backup next time before you do whatever you tried to do as to avoid this situation in the future.
RoyJ said:
Soooo you wiped internal storage? Pictures are gone... Best bet is to try Disk Digger or some similar app and see if it works.
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I was thinking that I only wiped the symlink to the files. I will try to see if it helps. Thanks for the tip.
RoyJ said:
Also make a backup next time before you do whatever you tried to do as to avoid this situation in the future.
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I was going to, except to make a nandroid backup or backup in general using custom recovery I need to go have more than half of my sdcard be free space (since it back it up to the internal sdcard) and I only had like 500-600 MB free I know you can move nandroid backups to the computer to free up space, but I do not know if I could backup straight to computer since N5 has no space.
victorymobile said:
I was thinking that I only wiped the symlink to the files. I will try to see if it helps. Thanks for the tip.
I was going to, except to make a nandroid backup or backup in general using custom recovery I need to go have more than half of my sdcard be free space (since it back it up to the internal sdcard) and I only had like 500-600 MB free I know you can move nandroid backups to the computer to free up space, but I do not know if I could backup straight to computer since N5 has no space.
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A nandroid wouldn't have helped. It doesn't backup pictures,etc. Use drop box or something or back them up on your pc frequently.
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jd1639 said:
A nandroid wouldn't have helped. It doesn't backup pictures,etc. Use drop box or something or back them up on your pc frequently.
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From my understanding, a nandroid backs up everything on the selected partition. So /system would save your ROM and its settings, etc. Normally on a phone with a SD card it won't back that up, but the N5 only has internal memory. Backing up /data won't save pictures and videos you took?
RoyJ said:
From my understanding, a nandroid backs up everything on the selected partition. So /system would save your ROM and its settings, etc. Normally on a phone with a SD card it won't back that up, but the N5 only has internal memory. Backing up /data won't save pictures and videos you took?
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nope. It just backs up the system partition; data, apps and settings; and boot, kernel
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That's odd. I could have sworn after I accidentally wiped my internal storage I had my pictures back after restoring a nandroid. Still have them all.
OP, any luck with disk digger? I just deleted a folder of useless memes I made with an app and used disk digger and restored them. This is the one I used
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.defianttech.diskdigger
RoyJ said:
OP, any luck with disk digger? I just deleted a folder of useless memes I made with an app and used disk digger and restored them. This is the one I used
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.defianttech.diskdigger
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Running it right now! It has found 6876 files and counting, and they seem to be full size! Thank you so much! That app is awesome.
And thanks guys, going to go back up my files after it's done
EDIT: Shame the file structure is not preserved
victorymobile said:
EDIT: Shame the file structure is not preserved
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It's not possible..
You're scanning the drive for actual files on the drive that no longer exist in the filesystem. Think of the file system as a database that tells the OS where the files are. When you delete a file, it doesn't really get deleted. Just the database entry about it.
The files exist whether there is a database entry in the file system or not but if you think about it, unlike files , the folders don't really exist on the disk.. When you create a folder, it doesn't really create a folder on the disk. It just reflects the "location" in the database. Folders don't exist on the disk so they cannot be restored. Restoring the files just adds new entries to the file system. It cannot find the deleted entries and reconnect them with the actual files
Hope this clarifies what you're seeing
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Full Backup using the TWRP Backup Tool program

Good afternoon,
My question is as follows,
1. The Backup Tool program creates a unique file when it generates the complete backup by the computer, different from the one created by TWRP, if it only needs to restore a single item has?
Note: I use the Backup Tool to be able to back up directly to the PC because I do not have enough memory card to fit the DATA folder.
2. With the complete backup, I read in some topics in the forum, that do not go type information, photos, downloads, etc. Is this right? If so, why in full backup is this information missing?
Thank you.
costafabiof said:
Good afternoon,
My question is as follows,
1. The Backup Tool program creates a unique file when it generates the complete backup by the computer, different from the one created by TWRP, if it only needs to restore a single item has?
Note: I use the Backup Tool to be able to back up directly to the PC because I do not have enough memory card to fit the DATA folder.
2. With the complete backup, I read in some topics in the forum, that do not go type information, photos, downloads, etc. Is this right? If so, why in full backup is this information missing?
Thank you.
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You can use twrp to pc and copy your internal storage off. Just drag and drop the folders you want from internal to your pc. No need to do a back up of it
godkingofcanada said:
You can use twrp to pc and copy your internal storage off. Just drag and drop the folders you want from internal to your pc. No need to do a back up of it
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Good afternoon,
Are you telling me that when I connect the phone to the PC via TWRP and all the folders appear, if I copy them, is it the same as doing a full backup by TWRP?
Because if so, what caught my attention is that, folders total 700 mb and backup 6 gigs.
No what he's saying is that TWRP only backs up the system content. So your ROM, apps, app settings, customisation etc is all saved in the TWRP backup.
But it doesn't save "loose" user files, so things like photos, downloads, etc saved to your SD or internal storage aren't included in the TWRP backup.
So for a complete backup, you want a TWRP backup + copy the photos, downloads, etc folders via PC onto your desktop.
Copying the folders is NOT going to be equivalent to a TWP backup, as you don't see any system/firmware files in PC.
What to use to Backup Complete phone Firmware, pictures and Everything on the phone??? So if it crashes you caab restore phone back to like it was before Crash? Thanks

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