Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
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It is certainpy possible with a pc. You could use a raspberry pi as a "converter" so you can output to your tv
jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
Does that make any sense?
Also, if you guys have any apps or mods that can record a video of my phone screen at a decent framerate (to record gameplay)
Please let me know.
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If your device has MHL (Like the HTC EVO 3D), you have HDMI out through the USB port.
You just need an MHL adapter. Other than that, if your phone does not support HDMI out, it won't have it.
USB to HDMI?
You mean hdmi to USB correct? I used this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KI8IMW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
to connect a monitor to my PC via USB 3.0 (has worked like a charm for weeks now.
They are designing a new one, or perhaps it's already out. Search ianker.com if you are looking for something similar.
#UP:
I use the same Very good conventer
jacob66 said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, but I'd like to know if it would ever be possible to use USB Cable as HDMI for a device without it?
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In the generic sense, no. As noted above, some mobile devices have USB-style connectors that support MHL (Mobile High-Definition Link), which allow low-cost cables to support HDMI output and/or USB.
For PCs (Windows, Macs and Linux), there are video adapters that can be thought of as video cards that connect via USB (rather than PCI Express, for example). This kind of adapter could work on tablets, phones, etc. if there were a driver written for them, but this is a nontrivial task and the market is unproven, especially as MHL adoption grows.
Jonathan from Plugable
monoprice.com seach usb to hdmi
The only issue is if the device does not have mhl, then as of right now theres no way of gerting it to work in that sense. Even if you use say CM roms they cant take advantage of mhl even id your phone supports it. The devs have stated time and time again its proprietary and will basically never come. Regardless, im much more interested in miracast, simply put wireless hdmi connection to your tv. I have my nexus 7 using it via my ras pi. However its not polished yet and is a similar state to what Ive gotten using samsungs version with a dongle. Check it out if your interested google Android Transporter. Its on the raspberry pi website. They also got it working on the galaxy nexus and some other nexus device's.
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As in topic, does asus zenfone 6 have ability to stream out video through usb to hdmi adapter?
After some time android q will come to this device and it will contain native desktop mode so i would like to use it.
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
mikek753 said:
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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According to GSMarena it's 2.0.
I looked at the USB diagrams and it appears that alternate modes over USB-C use the same pins as SuperSpeed meaning that you can't have alternate mode without the other (but not vice versa).
Unless I'm missing something, there shouldn't be any display mode. However I'm not sure if the GSMarena data sheet is accurate.
I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?
pawloland said:
I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?
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Display output via microusb worked differently as the regular port does not have the pins or bandwidth for it. I had an LG G2 which could also output a display signal. I think it's possible to do the same via USB-C but at the same time I think it's simpler to use alternate mode hence the conclusion I came up with. If I have the time I'll go digging around some more later.
I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.
apoklyps3 said:
I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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I looked at a few things and I think I was correct in my first post. While I think it would be technically possible to implement MHL on USB-C like they did on MicroB (it would just piggyback off the necessary pins like it used to do), it doesn't seem like it would make sense to do that and I can't find an adapter/cable that would work in that scenario so you'd need 3.1 because they all require Alternate Mode support. However Alternate Mode is an optional spec so just because a device supports 3.1 doesn't mean it'll support display functionality.
I should also note that the ROG Phone has USB-C 3.1 according to GSMArena.
Another note is that it appears that MHL officially lists MHL as working on USB-C via Alternate Mode.
Meanwhile ASUS launching an external display that is advertised to support input from a mobile phone, but hey, no their latest flagship. they are so dumb they are launching devices that don't their other devices..
why would anyone cheap on using usb2.0 connector, when internally SD855 supports 3.1 and so does UFS2.1, is beyond me. It must save la 0.something to use 2.0 instead of 3.1
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging
Xtr3m3ro said:
Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging
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Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?
No native HDMI output for my device using usb-c to hdmi cable.
However I think the Asus portable monitor thingy they announced at computex actually supports data over usb to transfer the image.. but I am not sure at all.
mikek753 said:
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.
Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)
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The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.
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IIRC video output via Displaylink adapter works on every device if it can install displaylink app. Displaylink support doesn't depend on mhl support on specific device. I'm just to clarifying for internet strangers.
gnrsenpai said:
Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)
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I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.
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Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?
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usb-c cable, i use that cable for macbook to have second monitor, and charging
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I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.
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please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Nubia red magic 3 is your best best. It doesn't support HDMI output yet but apparently they've said they may support it in a software update. It has USB c 3.1. Also 90hz screen, headphone jack, 5000ma battery, SD 855, it even has a CPU fan lol. It's newly out but I think you can install twrp and root it but customs ROMs might be few if any. It's the closest phone I've found to meeting my needs of 3.5mm, SD 855 and HDMI. Only thing it's missing is expandable really.
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mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Specs
https://m.gsmarena.com/zte_nubia_red_magic_3-9692.php
Oh, and it's only £410.......
Hi, any news? Has anyone bought a displaylink product and used it working with the Zenphone 6?
Can this be done? Looks like @prashantp01 brought "Samsung DeX support" with his kernel. Is my thinking correct? Can I play games?
using MHL cable / Anycast (wireless) will do
I have added the support in kernel, but i don't have anything to test them, so kindly test and let me know if it works
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I have added the support in kernel, but i don't have anything to test them, so kindly test and let me know if it works
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DeX cables are USB C to HDMI so I am using a MHL Micro USB-B to HDMI cable. I hope this is okay. If I am using the wrong cable can you point me to the right one on Amazon?
It failed to work but I am on GSI Treble ROM. Should I try (quantum) stock? Is there any hope?
blazzer12 said:
DeX cables are USB C to HDMI so I am using a MHL Micro USB-B to HDMI cable. I hope this is okay. If I am using the wrong cable can you point me to the right one on Amazon?
It failed to work but I am on GSI Treble ROM. Should I try (quantum) stock? Is there any hope?
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Could you get it to work using MHL? I have a phone with a broken screen (black and seemingly not responding to touch) and need to access it. Looking online tells me this phone might not support MHL.
This phone does not support MHL.So it's not possible.
Hi all,
At present it seems impossible to output video with a cable on the Oneplus Nord (OOS11). In my research I found out:
_MHL does not work
_Slimport does not work
_USB 2.0 protocol instead of 3.1 ; it seems this choice was made to favour warp charging.
_Force desktop mode works well with keyboard and mouse on device screen.
So my understanding is that the hardware is there to make this work but firmware has MHL and slimport locked. I suppose the limitation is to push advance use towards more expensive models.
Q: Is it possible to unlock MHL or Slimport via a Magisk module or other tweak?
Thanks
Freesoup said:
Hi all,
At present it seems impossible to output video with a cable on the Oneplus Nord (OOS11). In my research I found out:
_MHL does not work
_Slimport does not work
_USB 2.0 protocol instead of 3.1 ; it seems this choice was made to favour warp charging.
_Force desktop mode works well with keyboard and mouse on device screen.
So my understanding is that the hardware is there to make this work but firmware has MHL and slimport locked. I suppose the limitation is to push advance use towards more expensive models.
Q: Is it possible to unlock MHL or Slimport via a Magisk module or other tweak?
Thanks
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I was able to dig this thread on XDA that touched on this already https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/dev-wip-enabling-mhl-in-kernel.2262682/
It's a bit old though (latest post was 2013).
Since that time it looks like it got simpler. The chip can do it so it's probably an On-off command somewhere.
Anybody familiar with this?
Hey Guys, I tried searching here but couldn't find my specific answer. I just recently got a model XT2043-4 to use along with Octo4a to run my 3D printer remotely. The problem I am having is that I cannot use USB OTG and Charge the phone simultaneously with a Y splitter. I have been reading around and it seems like it is a Kernel issue with stock. Do any of you know if there is a Kernel that will enable this phone to charge while also using OTG? Or if this is even possible with this device?
Looks like your usb driver supports usb pd and pr_swap at first glance. Is your splitter supposed to be able to negotiate the role swap over the pd protocol or is it just a regular y-cable?
Hmm.. with it being a cheap Y splitter from amazon, I don't think it was supposed to negotiate the role swap. It advertised being able to, but did not specifically mention the Moto G stylus. Do you know of one that would allow and handle it?
For reference, this is the one I got: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Y6VQN99?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
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Hmm.. with it being a cheap Y splitter from amazon, I don't think it was supposed to negotiate the role swap. It advertised being able to, but did not specifically mention the Moto G stylus. Do you know of one that would allow and handle it?
For reference, this is the one I got: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Y6VQN99?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
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Looks like it should be able to do the job, if you have a multimeter check the pinouts
Lil B Rules All said:
For reference, this is the one I got: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Y6VQN99?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
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That looks like it should work from the listing. It looks like your kernel config does build the nessery modules
Code:
CONFIG_USB_PD_POLICY=y
CONFIG_QPNP_USB_PDPHY=y
After you plug it into your phone, try running dmesg as root to see if there are any recent kernel messages involving PD.
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Looks like it should be able to do the job, if you have a multimeter check the pinouts
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I'll give it a shot when I get home this weekend. Thanks for the path. It's a USB type C but I'll verify the pins.
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That looks like it should work from the listing. It looks like your kernel config does build the nessery modules
Code:
CONFIG_USB_PD_POLICY=y
CONFIG_QPNP_USB_PDPHY=y
After you plug it into your phone, try running dmesg as root to see if there are any recent kernel messages involving PD.
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Thank you, for some reason when I have the splitter plugged in and OTG is connected and working fine, but I plug the power into the other side of the splitter and it drops the USB OTG connection and starts charging instead.
I'll attempt what you've suggested here when I get back to the house. Thanks for the tip.
I use this USB-c "Splitter" and it works perfectly. My primary use is with an external USB-C portable monitor from Asus. I plug in a USB-C PD power supply on one side and monitor on the other. Also have the other version with a 3.5mm headphone input with USB-C PD on the other, and you can additionally use a USB-C hub in tandem..
https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Adapter-CableCreation-Charging-Splitter/dp/B07YD3BF4N/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3KM0TLMQPB2GB&keywords=cablecreation%2Busb-c%2Bsplitter&qid=1678723406&s=electronics&sprefix=cablecreation%2Busb-c%2Bsplitter%2Celectronics%2C125&sr=1-3&th=1
I am interested in making this work as well. I have a Moto G Pure and it drops the charging connection via software. I can watch this happen in connections with developer mode enabled.
I have actually gotten it to work by unplugging/plugging it in and changing it from connected device to this device in settings. Is there a dev that can modify the kernel to prevent it switching and leave it to charge the phone instead? I am pretty sure this is a kernel level issue but I am not a dev and cannot speak intelligently on this.