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Hey DEVS, I found something....something to help our HERO's right now

So I've been noticing that after a certain amount of use my Hero eventually slows down to the point where typing on the keyboard is frustrating because of the slow response. I did some searching and I came across this online
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
since I'm no where near the level of a dev, I figured I'd put this out there and see if anyone can make heads or tails of it, and possibly create a signed-zip so we can just use the update feature in the recovery screen to flash it to our system.
Seems legit as a fix, and apparently this was something that was a known problem with Android 1.5 that I guess has been fixed with 2.0.
Any Dev help would be hot.

Excellent. Thank you for tracking that down.
The TL;DNR explanation: Location services are causing multiple "heartbeats" on the phone all on top of each other. One guy counted as many as 253 in 5 seconds. This consumes the CPU. I will look at the patch.

Would disabling location services be a temporary fix?

kynetx said:
Would disabling location services be a temporary fix?
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Yes. We're pretty close to 2.1 though so shouldn't need more then that.

ive seen this problem too but not until recently, it lags the phone and drains the battery amazingly fast.

abcdfv said:
Yes. We're pretty close to 2.1 though so shouldn't need more then that.
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I'm taking a wait and see approach on the 2.1 progress right now, what's there looks very promising but without the camera, accel., & (for me anyway because I do have alot of apps that i use) a2sd, I'm content with Fresh 1.0, just wanna get help get that issue solved cuz I'm sure I'm not the only one who is experiencing it.
PS: I know I said I have alot of apps, but I know that's not the cause because the same thing happened when I did a wipe and just left things "stock" with Fresh Rom 1.0 for a few days

If they got the accel and wifi tether working, I'd make the jump to 2.1, but I need the accel for work, and the wifi tether for internet.

What app can be used to show the system_server process? I use task manager but it isn't listed. I want to monitor this process.
Also, does anyone know about the patch? How Do you apply it?

1) I can't answer the first question. I just took the advice here and turned all location services off. My phone is back to its snappy self. The only way I'm really impacted by having to do this right now (I'm sure I'll use this phone for more after 2.1) is using google maps. I already kept GPS off when I wasn't using it but having to go into the settings and allow Location Setting before using gmaps is a PITA.
2) I know very little about android and ROM DEV but think the "patch" is programming code, only useful to people who know how to read and write it.

jdlumley said:
What app can be used to show the system_server process? I use task manager but it isn't listed. I want to monitor this process.
Also, does anyone know about the patch? How Do you apply it?
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RoboTop???

You can use DDMS from the Android SDK toolkit to monitor processes running on the phone. Should be able to pull up a process list from there.
Now, I'm using Locale but not with Location settings for my different profiles. I also have Location settings turned on for use with Google Maps as well as the HTC Flip Clock / Beautiful Widgets Home. Surprisingly, my system_server process is sitting at 0% right now, and the phone has been on for over a day. Both DDMS and running "top -n 1" in the adb shell confirm this. If there's much of a change over the day, I'll be sure to let you know. So, it's possible that HTC found and fixed this issue with their SenseUI CDMA 1.5 build. Unlikely, but possible.

So I was seeing this issue even with the modified services.jar from that thread. Granted I didn't test it very long and it was only maxing out at 1%, but it was enough for me to feel that it wasn't working.
I have since removed HTC's location service. After rebooting it looks as if because the phone couldn't find HTC's service anymore it installed the stock one. Time to see if it makes any difference.

with my BB for example there was an application which rebooted your phone at a custom time that u have set .. is there an application that can be used to do the same with the hero? ... reboot device while u are sleeping.. so it runs nice and quick for u the next day?

flipzmode said:
So I was seeing this issue even with the modified services.jar from that thread. Granted I didn't test it very long and it was only maxing out at 1%, but it was enough for me to feel that it wasn't working.
I have since removed HTC's location service. After rebooting it looks as if because the phone couldn't find HTC's service anymore it installed the stock one. Time to see if it makes any difference.
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On the Fresh ROM thread I thought you said that it was using 16% previously... and is this an issue that's apparent immediately or is it something that gets worse with time?
Any chance of including the modified services.jar in the next release even if it doesn't immediately appear to make a difference? I mean, if it's not crashing things and is supposed to be an improvement, then why not stick it in there, right?

Just read nearly that entire chain of messages. now somebody (fresh, ima callin you out!) dooo eeeet!

What's the word on progress for this in Fresh ROM? I have found it to be a very significant issue for me (and apparently so has my roommate), as I use location services quite a lot. GMaps being most in particular, but some other apps as well (Aloqa, Sprint Navigation). I'm really glad there's a workaround that doesn't involve a reboot!

I looked at the other link and I have downloaded both the services.jar file and the LocationManagerService.patch. Which one should I apply and do I apply it? I am having problems with this now.

bcellis said:
On the Fresh ROM thread I thought you said that it was using 16% previously... and is this an issue that's apparent immediately or is it something that gets worse with time?
Any chance of including the modified services.jar in the next release even if it doesn't immediately appear to make a difference? I mean, if it's not crashing things and is supposed to be an improvement, then why not stick it in there, right?
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The bug is that it gets worse over time. I can include it for sure. I believe the reason it's not working is because our hero's code is all stored in services.odex, not services.jar. And I haven't been able to deodex that file yet. But I'll include it regardless because it can't hurt.
scirio said:
Just read nearly that entire chain of messages. now somebody (fresh, ima callin you out!) dooo eeeet!
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patches11 said:
What's the word on progress for this in Fresh ROM? I have found it to be a very significant issue for me (and apparently so has my roommate), as I use location services quite a lot. GMaps being most in particular, but some other apps as well (Aloqa, Sprint Navigation). I'm really glad there's a workaround that doesn't involve a reboot!
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I'm working on testing whether disabling HTC's location service will fix our issue. However with the release of the kitchen I was rebooting my phone non-stop. Impossible for me to know if it was working or not.
ElAguila said:
I looked at the other link and I have downloaded both the services.jar file and the LocationManagerService.patch. Which one should I apply and do I apply it? I am having problems with this now.
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The patch is designed to apply to the source, so that won't help you. The services.jar would replace the one that's already there.

turning off location has been a dramatic difference in speed. its obvious theres something to that. it would get so bad the whole phone would lag

Take screenshot without root?

Are there any apps that let you take a screenshot without rooting? I've been searching for this for days and haven't found anything, but I find it hard to believe that even iPods can do it yet Google couldn't figure out how to implement a screenshot feature? And I don't really want to root my phone just so I can take a screenshot.

rpimps said:
Are there any apps that let you take a screenshot without rooting? I've been searching for this for days and haven't found anything, but I find it hard to believe that even iPods can do it yet Google couldn't figure out how to implement a screenshot feature? And I don't really want to root my phone just so I can take a screenshot.
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if you have android sdk installed, you can just run
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ddms
in terminal, a window will pop up, and then navigate to device->Screen Capture to take a screenshot. Let me know if it works and it should work if the phone is not rooted.

well supposedly 'shootme' has worked for some that arent rooted. not too sure if it is the truth or not, but that is what i have read on some of the comments left as feedback on the market itself.
i havent tried it myself so just kinda wanted to let you know what i had previously heard of.

rpimps said:
I find it hard to believe that even iPods can do it yet Google couldn't figure out how to implement a screenshot feature?
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The iPod is just a series of devices all running the same operating system with similar hardware specs. Android is an operating system with many different variants on numerous phones with varying hardware specs. Because of this variation it is not easy to 'figure out how to implement a feature.'
Sent from my Hero that never dies! ;D

Depending on your device, ShootMe may work as stated previously. Unlike other screenshot apps, it still attempts to work even if root access is not available. It worked perfectly on my Evo before I rooted it.
If it doesn't work for you, you can try the method mentioned previously. Depending on which device you have, there may be a temp root available. I believe z4root does this on certain phones. Upon reboot, root access will no longer be available and you'll need to run the app again.
Google does not natively allow for screenshots to be taken for security purposes. If an app can take a screenshot of your phone at any time, it can record information without your knowledge - passwords, banking info, etc. When you root your phone, you are able to bypass a lot of the "rules" set in place by the OS. Yes, it's a lame excuse as computers and other mobile OS's have it built in.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)

plainjane said:
Google does not natively allow for screenshots to be taken for security purposes. If an app can take a screenshot of your phone at any time, it can record information without your knowledge - passwords, banking info, etc. When you root your phone, you are able to bypass a lot of the "rules" set in place by the OS.
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Shocking to imagine of this possibility!

myphoneexplorer can take screenshots without root

rpimps said:
Are there any apps that let you take a screenshot without rooting? I've been searching for this for days and haven't found anything, but I find it hard to believe that even iPods can do it yet Google couldn't figure out how to implement a screenshot feature? And I don't really want to root my phone just so I can take a screenshot.
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I used to use the following method to take screenshots. LINK

On my unrooted Samsung galaxy s i can just hit back-key and home-key to take screenshot. I am using android 2.3.3.

e334 said:
if you have android sdk installed, you can just run
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ddms
in terminal, a window will pop up, and then navigate to device->Screen Capture to take a screenshot. Let me know if it works and it should work if the phone is not rooted.
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I'm trying to install Android SDK now but it says I don't have Java SE Development Kit installed, even though I do.
@plainjane I looked at the z4root thread but a lot of the latest replies are saying it bricked their phone so I don't think I want to try it.

Use MyPhoneExplorer (usb debugging must be turning ON), connect via USB and take screenshot easily.

rpimps said:
I'm trying to install Android SDK now but it says I don't have Java SE Development Kit installed, even though I do.
@plainjane I looked at the z4root thread but a lot of the latest replies are saying it bricked their phone so I don't think I want to try it.
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Here is how I rooted my phone if you are wanting to give it a try:Lifehacker
As for the Java SE Development Kit, the whole download takes a lot of try and try again. Try to uninstall and reinstall.

GT-B9150 Samsung Homesync *ROOT*

so i will start off by saying i was disappointed when i got this device because i thought it had full access to the Google play store when only 5% or less apps work, none of which i want (Netflix, hulu, plex etc. not there) i was looking for this device to be both a media server/gaming device for some asphalt 8/real racing action. etc. so i am starting this thread to hope it attracts attention and we can get someone to help us root it because if we can accomplish that i heard of a program called market helper that would trick the market into thinking we are using an s4 or something.

erik10002 said:
so i will start off by saying i was disappointed when i got this device because i thought it had full access to the Google play store when only 5% or less apps work, none of which i want (Netflix, hulu, plex etc. not there) i was looking for this device to be both a media server/gaming device for some asphalt 8/real racing action. etc. so i am starting this thread to hope it attracts attention and we can get someone to help us root it because if we can accomplish that i heard of a program called market helper that would trick the market into thinking we are using an s4 or something.
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Thanks for starting it. I am in the same situation. Just for the context, it has Exynos 5250 dual core processor @1.7ghz and a 1TB hard drive inside mounted with ext4 in /storage/emulated/0 (also /sdcard etc.).
I'm trying to root it since a week now without success. I tried to flash self-made boot.tar with boot.img inside using Odin 3.09, but it FAILS. Same goes for pre-rooted system.img. It seems that this bootlader has a lock and it's checking signature, since we can't sign it like Samsung, it refuses to flash. Heimdall 1.4.0 also fails with a message stating "failed to confirm end of file transfer sequence". I've tried some chinese websites root method, but it also did not work (Odin does not flash the root file).
I've downgraded from Oct 2013 firmware to an ealiest one that I could find : B9150ZSABME2_B9150OZSBME2_TGY from May 2013. With this, I ran Cydia Impactor on it and it was able to place /system/xbin/su into the system partition. However, it is not setuid root, thus when I run su, it just waits forever. I don't know how the exploit can place the binary there but not make it setuid root. Supersu.apk is also installed, but it does not launch normally and dies.
The Impactor is able to run a telnetd server as "system" user, but system user also can't setuid root the su binary. It can't mount system RW. Impactor can't launch a telnet server as root neither.
I've tried some other exploits that were found for S4 (pwn etc. ), DoomLord v17. It all failed. I also tried SRS One Click Root, and Chinese eroot, they also failed. I'm now out of ideas and appreciate if anyone would have any idea.
I am attaching partition layout. I can also send the kernel if necessary.

okay so this is what i have done so far, i know nothing about developing a root procedure but i am very impatient.
nova launcher installed (forced landscape in nova settings and now every app loads landscape like it should)
Blackmart (this is where i will be downloading all my apps from straight to the device)
got angry birds installed as a test app (worked perfectly)
did all this in a few minutes before i went to bed and will keep exploring tonight, hope this helps some people who own the device. next im going to try and install a FPS or racing game and see how that turns out.

Erik10002, I've also installed Nova, but then you lose the status bar as the notifications on Samsung firmware is a bit diferent (on upper left side with an indicator count). I'm not sure if it would be usable without status bar. (or am I mistaken? ie where the running program icons shall be seen as well as the clock, etc.).
It seems that our device has some kind of kernel protection or capability restriction to run setuid root su binary, according to Saurik himself. So I will try to further think how it can be overcome.
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Erik10002, I've also installed Nova, but then you lose the status bar as the notifications on Samsung firmware is a bit diferent (on upper left side with an indicator count). I'm not sure if it would be usable without status bar. (or am I mistaken? ie where the running program icons shall be seen as well as the clock, etc.).
It seems that our device has some kind of kernel protection or capability restriction to run setuid root su binary, according to Saurik himself.

How do you enter download mode on this thing?

Two methods :
1) power off. Then press function button, hold it, then press power button. Led will be red. This is download mode
2) enable developer mode, usb debugging. Then connect it to your pc with its micro USB port and run adb reboot download
If you want recovery, adb reboot recovery

not a glimmer of hope for root on this device so far :crying:

Yes unfortunately nobody seems to be interested. I also gave up and using it stock now. Except the issue of not being able to write timestamps on internal files, it's OK. For timestamps issue, I just use an external USB and use internal ones for files where I don't care about creation modification times. (ie movies etc)
I want to try to open its case to see if hdd is replaceable and if I can externally set 777 permissions on files which may help me set timestamps. Any clue how this box can be opened?

Don't know how to open it up and yes it is a shame as I was looking for this to be an android multimedia powerhouse and Android game console and those dreams got crushed although I got real racing up and running (and it runs smoothly) and get all my apps/games through blackmart alpha I have been to lazy to get an android gaming controller and am currently just using the box as a backup for my Galaxy devices but will venture further eventually. Surprised this thread I started hasn't got more attention because when I type Samsung homesync root into Google this is the 2nd link on the page I think. I will keep praying, one day, one day!
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In fact it's still OK. I'm running SMB server and SSH server on it. They run on non standard ports but all my pc are Linux so it's not an issue.
I have Torrent for downloading, Xbmc for media, bittorent sync for syncing. Biggest annoyance is the timestamp issue that's bugging all phones and tablets with ext4 sdcards and that play store is a joke with nearly all apps not compatible while most of them run just fine. Why did Sammy do something like this is beyond my understanding.

So this device is not getting any attention from the devs? Hope it will be rooted one day. It has got way more potential than what it is now.

I think this device has powerful hardware specs but poor software, Wish someone find a way to root it so we can use it more effective
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so i will start off by saying i was disappointed when i got this device because i thought it had full access to the Google play store when only 5% or less apps work, none of which i want (Netflix, hulu, plex etc. not there) i was looking for this device to be both a media server/gaming device for some asphalt 8/real racing action. etc. so i am starting this thread to hope it attracts attention and we can get someone to help us root it because if we can accomplish that i heard of a program called market helper that would trick the market into thinking we are using an s4 or something.
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Let's create an vote for this device so any dev find way to root it!

toan3000 said:
I think this device has powerful hardware specs but poor software, Wish someone find a way to root it so we can use it more effective
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Let's create an vote for this device so any dev find way to root it!
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I do believe that this device will not have great success.
The first point is that it is only devoted to Samsung devices. Why ? I have another android Phone and I cannot use this stuff...
If I have to spend 300 Euro for a device that requires other samsung device, this is a closed one like a MAC and I dislike it.

You can install homesync apk by side loading at least on some Android phones and tablets, as far as I read in some Websites. You could give it a try.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/17/samsung-homesync-media-hub-compatibility/
Yeah. Samsung has extended support to other Android devices for homesync app. Despite hearing so many negative reviews on this device, I shomehow enjoy using it. I'm using the device everyday for media consumption everyday without fail.

How does XBMC run on this thing? And does the Homesync Phone Remote Control work within XBMC? Thats the main reason I'm looking to get this device quite honestly.
Thanks a lot.

I saw the rooting method on a Chinese site. I'm thinking about buying this Homesync for HD Player and torrent download.

Zanr Zij said:
I saw the rooting method on a Chinese site. I'm thinking about buying this Homesync for HD Player and torrent download.
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Which website?
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tect said:
Which website?
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Here you go
http://www.2gcn.com/android/ROOT/20130908/5137.html

Zanr Zij said:
Here you go
http://www.2gcn.com/android/ROOT/20130908/5137.html
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Not working on my homesync

[DISCONTINUED] Turboid 1.13

Now that we've got some Sunshine in our lives, sadly (not really) it is time for Turboid to be retired. We don't need it anymore.
If you would like to set up a rom on your unlocked Turbo that has all the features that Turboid had, upgrade to SU4TL-44, unlock with Sunshine, install TWRP, and flash following:
1. SuperSU: https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/
2. Busybox: http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...-busybox-v1-23-2-stericson-flashable-t3114476 (NOTE: This is not the latest version, but you need to have busybox flashed before you flash Pon-3. Once you boot the phone, use Busybox Installer by Stericson in the Play Store to update to the latest version).
3. Pon-3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530976
4. Xposed Framework: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811 (Make sure to flash the correct SDK for the rom that you're running. SDK21 = Lollipop 5.0.X. SDK22 = Lollipop 5.1.X. SDK23 = Marshmallow 6.X. Also, always use the ARM version.)
5. iOS 9.1 emojis: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/themes-apps/mod-ios-emojis-android-t3231571
Once all that's flashed, let the phone boot up. Wiping cache and dalvik cache is always a safe bet after flashing anything. Once it boots, do the following:
1. Go back to the Xposed page and install the Installer apk.
2. Get Adaway here: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.adaway (Install using the default settings. No need for redirecting the hosts file anymore.)
3. Better Battery Stats is here if you like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
4. The Turbo 2 command center is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/themes-apps/droid-turbo-2-command-center-root-t3244386
I think that about covers it. Go forth and flash! Thanks for letting me play dev for a few months.
Thanks to:
@computerfreek274 for his excellent roms, his dedication to them and for our SELinux discussion
@JulesJam for her various guides and posts that taught me how to do most of this
@btdownloads7 for answering my question about the HDR bug
@DespairFactor for the iOS 9.1 emoji port
@mrchezco1995 for showing myself and the world how awesome ponies can sound via Pon-3
And at long last, thanks to @jcase and @beaups for kicking Motorola and Verizon in their bootloader-locked balls!

Awesome man. Nice to have some options, even if they are fairly similar. Thanks. :good:

my2cents said:
Awesome man. Nice to have some options, even if they are fairly similar. Thanks. :good:
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No prob! If you can think of anything else that you would like me to add to it, let me know.

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Unlike the other images floating around, I started off with the stock SU3TL-39 system image from the full Verizon firmware. To the best of my knowledge, the other roms are based off of firstEncounter's 5.1 image, which was obtained in a different way. Does this matter? Probably not, but at the time I thought that this might fix the HDR bug, and it did, but probably not for that reason.
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There's a SU3TL-39 full firmware? My images were based on the SU3TL-38 and updated to SU3TL-39 by emulating the OTA script.
(Also, HDR works on my images, for whatever it's worth)
Regardless, always glad to see more development for the Turbo!

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There's a SU3TL-39 full firmware? My images were based on the SU3TL-38 and updated to SU3TL-39 by emulating the OTA script.
(Also, HDR works on my images, for whatever it's worth)
Regardless, always glad to see more development for the Turbo!
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Yep! You can get it on the motofirmwares website. Yeah, someone confirmed for me the other day that it works on your image now. In the past, I had flashed it and it didn't, but you've updated it since I did that. So I guess HDR working isn't really a feature anymore. I'm working on some gimmicks to make my image a little more relevant though.

Would it be possible for you to allow us to claim space to the area where the Google Search Bar is, when it is hidden? Also, I would like to be able to clear all the open applications without having to swipe them all one at a time. Is that possible?

my2cents said:
Would it be possible for you to allow us to claim space to the area where the Google Search Bar is, when it is hidden? Also, I would like to be able to clear all the open applications without having to swipe them all one at a time. Is that possible?
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I'll look into the Google search bar thing. I've never seen my screen without it, so I didn't know that the space wasn't automatically used. As for the clear all recents thing, that is one of the many features of Gravity Box for LP (a well known xposed module). Try that. I'll see if there's a way to bake it into the rom too.

I posted on the other thread about this, but I will say again here, this img is great. Has similar battery life to the other Lp img I was running, despite not having tweaks. I unplugged at 530 am. been kicking butt all day long. I streamed via Bluetooth for 2 hours driving at work, and noticed better 4g signals than I have had yet at my work using this img. There were zero glitches or bugs that I noticed. I am still at 8% battery, atm. I had a crapload of SOT. Look for yourself. amazing img. thank you!!!

p.s. I just noticed I have had max brightness all day as well. lol.

I just realized you removed the corporate email app (after a day or use, haha). Is there a way that I can side load it or something? I love the debloated ROM, but that is one app I need for my college email account.
Also, is it ok to update Moto Actions? You can understand why I ask that!

^^^ I used the Outlook app as a replacement today. Gmail also will allow you to add other email accounts now, so that may be why. As far as requests, my only one may not be reasonable or practical, but it would be a deodexed version of this. Again, awesome work.

Yeah, specifically, I need the exchange piece. I tried the outlook app, but it doesn't handle certain things as well. I also tried installing Google Email 6.5 as well as the Exchange Services apk, but I know I have to be missing something... Actually, probably lots of things! haha.
Also, adaway doesn't work with this build, is that right?

kitcostantino said:
I posted on the other thread about this, but I will say again here, this img is great. Has similar battery life to the other Lp img I was running, despite not having tweaks. I unplugged at 530 am. been kicking butt all day long. I streamed via Bluetooth for 2 hours driving at work, and noticed better 4g signals than I have had yet at my work using this img. There were zero glitches or bugs that I noticed. I am still at 8% battery, atm. I had a crapload of SOT. Look for yourself. amazing img. thank you!!!
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Awesome! I'm glad it works well for someone other than me.

kitcostantino said:
^^^ I used the Outlook app as a replacement today. Gmail also will allow you to add other email accounts now, so that may be why. As far as requests, my only one may not be reasonable or practical, but it would be a deodexed version of this. Again, awesome work.
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Well if you need the stock email app, I can send an image your way that has it once I find some time. I have no idea what deodexing roms entails, but that sounds like a fun project too. I'll look into it.

my2cents said:
Yeah, specifically, I need the exchange piece. I tried the outlook app, but it doesn't handle certain things as well. I also tried installing Google Email 6.5 as well as the Exchange Services apk, but I know I have to be missing something... Actually, probably lots of things! haha.
Also, adaway doesn't work with this build, is that right?
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Correct. I didn't put adaway in there. I probably could though. Stay tuned.

my2cents said:
I just realized you removed the corporate email app (after a day or use, haha). Is there a way that I can side load it or something? I love the debloated ROM, but that is one app I need for my college email account.
Also, is it ok to update Moto Actions? You can understand why I ask that!
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Haha yes, updating seems to not cause the apocalypse to occur this time around. I'll make an image that has the stock email app intact, or I'll try sideloading it and post the apk if it works.

my2cents said:
I just realized you removed the corporate email app (after a day or use, haha). Is there a way that I can side load it or something? I love the debloated ROM, but that is one app I need for my college email account.
Also, is it ok to update Moto Actions? You can understand why I ask that!
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I added the stock email app back. Side loading didn't work. Will be up in a few hours.

thats cool. honestly, deodexing is removing all of the .odex files from the rom. (located at /system/app , system/priv-app, etc.
the reason i ask about it is it would make theming easier. mind you, without system r/w access, it is a moot point. it may make the theme options available work better though. (LPthemer module comes to mind). CF has said he will not be doing that at any point, so it may be a PITA.

kitcostantino said:
thats cool. honestly, deodexing is removing all of the .odex files from the rom. (located at /system/app , system/priv-app, etc.
the reason i ask about it is it would make theming easier. mind you, without system r/w access, it is a moot point. it may make the theme options available work better though. (LPthemer module comes to mind). CF has said he will not be doing that at any point, so it may be a PITA.
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Oh. That's it? I can do that in 2 seconds. I thought there was something more to it.

1.02 looks like the perfect ROM for me! Thanks @TheSt33v

Joying 2gb Intel problems/questions

So I just wanted to make a thread for these units where people can ask/answer questions specific to these devices. May help others as the info online isn't the best, including their own forum site which I have unable to access with a few weeks due to persistent ads...... ?
To get the ball rolling;
I have updated to the new official firmware with the new widget launcher, I like the launcher, well the fact that I have large icons and can have widgets on the home screen.
My issues are,
1) when I start the car (dormancy mode) I am trying to get tasks to run automatically (open rocket player, play audio etc.) Problem is there seems to be a built in task killer that kills macrodroid (which I'm using for my tasks). I have tried autostart apps but these don't trigger as the HU is coming out of dormancy mode and not actually booting. Anyone have a work around for this? If I could get Macrodroid to run I could solve the rest using macros (tasks)
2) Since the new update with the new launcher i no longer have Voice to text, i installed the google app but this caused the launcher to crash and only left me with the recent apps screen, luckily I was able to get back into play store from here and uninstall google app again which brought all back working again.
3) When playing a podcast (Bluetooth streaming from phone) and I want to change to rocket player to play music, if I just tap play on the rocket widget the media starts playing but I get no sound until I open the app, kind of defeats the purpose of the widget being there!
4) when I first installed the unit I had no problems with the illuminate function (headlights dim screen and turn on button lights) this worked for about a month and then for no reason just stopped, now if I turn on my lights the button lights flick on for about half a second and then turn off again, its not an issue with the lights as they work fine when I chose the timed option. I haven't checked my 12v feed yet as I'm guessing its OK due to the flicker, it will happen every time I turn the lights on.
I have tried reset, reflash combos about 6 times at this stage but always with the same results.
I know there are options to change the ROM but I would like to keep it stock for now just in case I need to return it.

fado5ster said:
So I just wanted to make a thread for these units where people can ask/answer questions specific to these devices. May help others as the info online isn't the best, including their own forum site which I have unable to access with a few weeks due to persistent ads...... ?
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I assume you mean the http://forum.carjoying.com/ forum? If so, mention that. Be concrete.
That is indeed annoying, but there are many hundredths of users on that forum without issues. Maybe your ISP doing something weird.
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To get the ball rolling;
I have updated to the new official firmware with the new widget launcher, I like the launcher, well the fact that I have large icons and can have widgets on the home screen.
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The new official ROM?? Which one? The 5 March version? And did you pick the right one of the two? And which unit do you have?
Mention all that! This makes your remark/question useless as people trying to help first need to ask you that.
fado5ster said:
My issues are,
1) when I start the car (dormancy mode) I am trying to get tasks to run automatically (open rocket player, play audio etc.) Problem is there seems to be a built in task killer that kills macrodroid (which I'm using for my tasks). I have tried autostart apps but these don't trigger as the HU is coming out of dormancy mode and not actually booting. Anyone have a work around for this? If I could get Macrodroid to run I could solve the rest using macros (tasks)
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Search the forum. already many time mentioned. You need the NoKill app. Can be downloaded from here and mentioned here.
fado5ster said:
2) Since the new update with the new launcher i no longer have Voice to text, i installed the google app but this caused the launcher to crash and only left me with the recent apps screen, luckily I was able to get back into play store from here and uninstall google app again which brought all back working again.
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Don't you search at all? Also known issue and mentioned here on the forum.
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3) When playing a podcast (Bluetooth streaming from phone) and I want to change to rocket player to play music, if I just tap play on the rocket widget the media starts playing but I get no sound until I open the app, kind of defeats the purpose of the widget being there!
4) when I first installed the unit I had no problems with the illuminate function (headlights dim screen and turn on button lights) this worked for about a month and then for no reason just stopped, now if I turn on my lights the button lights flick on for about half a second and then turn off again, its not an issue with the lights as they work fine when I chose the timed option. I haven't checked my 12v feed yet as I'm guessing its OK due to the flicker, it will happen every time I turn the lights on.
I have tried reset, reflash combos about 6 times at this stage but always with the same results.
I know there are options to change the ROM but I would like to keep it stock for now just in case I need to return it.
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Again: which ROM are you on? You should mention that. ROMS before 2017 contain bugs, so do they in 2017 but at least a lot less. So make sure you are on a newer ROM. If you already are, like you mentioned above, mention the version. That saves people from asking for the obvious. Before you post read the rules.
Look at this thread and this thread
First of all: Search the forum.
And secondly: Search the forum.
And third: Be concrete. Mention versions, forums, etc. You don't even mention which head unit you have.

I was looking but could only find info on the 1gb model and the thread about the release of the 2gb model.
Thanks for the info but you don't have to be a **** about it.
I missed stuff when searching, I couldn't access the joying forum, I thought saying "their own forum site" would have cleared that. I couldnt access the site to find out if there had been updates, at the time i was on the ONLY UPDATED ROM with the new launcher with customizable widgets.
When i found NoKill I thought it was for steering wheel controls which I don't have so I moved on.
When I asked about model numbers on the joying forum (when I could access it) I was made out to be an idiot too because "They are all the same thing" so forgive me for thinking that. Mine is the JY-UL135N2
Again, Thanks for the info but you don't have to be a cranky prick about it, this is a forum isn't it? Used for discussion and help?
I was only saying something like this with info in one place would be good, if its out there already then sorry, mods can delete and ill crawl back into my hole of idiotness

Yes, I was annoyed but I did give you a number of helpful links and be honest: you were not very exact in your phrasing.
And w.r.t. the roms: They are on the joying blog59 page which is also mentioned several times on several postitions in this forum, and you could also have found it from the "normal" joying website carjoying.com
Even though I was annoyed I tried to help you. If your phrasing was more concrete that would have been a lot faster. And you still don't mention which ROM you are currently using, so nobody can give you an exact answer.
You can be angry with me, but clear communication would have prevented my irritated reply.

I am on the 2017222 rom but will be updating to latest tomorrow, have downloaded just need to do the HU side of it. I can get access to the Joying site using your link and only your link, not sure why or whats going on as this includes the main joying site too.
I plan on updating, attempting root then install NoKill.
I am giving the info I have, I don't know a lot about these devices and although I have rooted phones and tablets before I have never done anything like this.
You did give me helpful links and I thank you for that but please don't be too angry with people asking questions. I realise you know how this works but others don't and are afraid of damaging the device. Before your link which I used to access the updates page I had no way of checking for updates as I couldn't get onto the page

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I plan on updating, attempting root then install NoKill.
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There is no real need to update to the March 5 ROM if you already have the 22 Feb ROM.
The ROM is rooted. What you mean is that you want to install a SuperUser app like SuperSU or Kingroot or the like.
You don't need to SuperSU your ROM. You can install the NoKill version just like that as the ROM is rooted. You simply don't have the nice, userfriendly superuser apk on the system.

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There is no real need to update to the March 5 ROM if you already have the 22 Feb ROM.
The ROM is rooted. What you mean is that you want to install a SuperUser app like SuperSU or Kingroot or the like.
You don't need to SuperSU your ROM. You can install the NoKill version just like that as the ROM is rooted. You simply don't have the nice, userfriendly superuser apk on the system.
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So there is no real advantage to the March 5 ROM?
Oh, I didn't know it was rooted still, thought they stopped that on the 2gb devices.. I'm not even sure if I need root for anything, all I wanted it for was to get to the /system... folder to copy NoKill to. Can I get there without SuperSU app using ES file explorer? Am I safe to delete the existing nokill.apk in there 1st and then copy in the new file? It won't cause any issues not having the apk for the few seconds? (Probably a stupid question)

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So there is no real advantage to the March 5 ROM?
Oh, I didn't know it was rooted still, thought they stopped that on the 2gb devices.. I'm not even sure if I need root for anything, all I wanted it for was to get to the /system... folder to copy NoKill to. Can I get there without SuperSU app using ES file explorer? Am I safe to delete the existing nokill.apk in there 1st and then copy in the new file? It won't cause any issues not having the apk for the few seconds? (Probably a stupid question)
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The Sofia server is loaded upon boot and stays in memory. So no problem there.
Best thing to do via adb.
Code:
adb push Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk /sdcard/
adb shell "su -c mount -o remount,rw /system"
adb shell "su -c cp /system/app/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk /system/app/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk.old"
adb shell "su -c cp /sdcard/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk /system/app/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0"
adb shell "su -c chmod 644 /system/app/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk"
adb shell "su -c ls -l /system/app/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0"
last command does nothing toyour system. It should only list the new apk and the old apk.old.
and then reboot your unit.

I know you are going to hate me for this but any time I've tried pushing files using adb I end up messing it up and bricking it.
Looks like the illumination problem was due to the car.. The illumination wire was in a different place to the joying connector, I repinned it and working now but still doesn't explain how I had it working fine for a month.. Really weird, had issues with 12v switched and constant 12v too.. Had to swap them around.. Seems to be Kia's doing and not joying.. Very strange

Macrodroid not running in background FIXED
Hey there! You probably fixed the issue with macrodroid by now but I had the same issue and I fixed it by installing Macrodroid as a system app. That did the job for me. Just did a reboot and waited for macrodroid to come up.