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Speaker placement really an issue (kickstand)

So I'm reading around and alot of people are hating the speaker placement on the tbolt. The speaker is placed right behind the kickstand. Personally to me I think it's a great spot. When the kickstand is closed the sound bounces off and projects to the front. I'm not noticing any substantial muffeling that everyone is talking about. The speaker is loud. Great speaker. Anyways what do you guys think about the tbolt speaker placement?
(On a side note worst speaker placement ever on a phone: iPhone series. Put the phone in landscape while playing a game and hand covers up the speaker. Horrible.)

Bounces off it??? It’s down in a crevice!!
Just pick one up and do anything that makes sound and open and close the kickstand... It does not take a rocket scientist to hear that in every single instance of the phone making sounds from ringtone, to speaker call, to YouTube video that the audio is muffled with the kickstand closed!!

It wouldn't sound muffled if you had robot ears!

OK let me rephrase this. Listening to music, playing games etc. Your hand makes a cup shape weather your in landscape or portrait. So if you doing anything with audio the sound is bouncing off your hands to you. It may be in a crevice but it's not air tight. Alot of the sound escapes toward the end of the kickstand. And that gap could possibly act as a cone and speed up the wavelength, increasing volume. But when your wanting to play audio with the kickstand out. The sound is bouncing all over the place. Off the table and kickstand. Giving off a louder sound. I'm just saying it's not the worst design flaw on the phone.

I'm doing a video demo right now... Will post link soon...

Here it is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1l-9oZAu4w
My 4 year old Nikon Coolpix couldn’t really pick up the stark audio differences…
but they are hugh!

I like the placement.
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I also like the placement.
Only an audiophile would care about the slightly muffled sound, and a true audiophile wouldn't use tiny phone speakers anyway.
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mcmillanje said:
I also like the placement.
Only an audiophile would care about the slightly muffled sound, and a true audiophile wouldn't use tiny phone speakers anyway.
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See this kind of statement that proves a lot of people here must just be fan boy because it manes absolute no sense. ..
You like the placement? Really? You like that they chose to cover the speaker with a piece of metal as opposed to not covering the phones only speaker with a piece of metal?
So you look at all those other phones out there on the market and say… “Well I don’t know… Looks a little off, for one thing they need to have a movable piece of metal that in almost all uses of the phone is snapped down right over the speaker. “
Or
“Wow… the phone looks ok but that unimpeded speaker looks a little questionable… Better slap a piece of solid metal over it just to be sure… I think for a high end phone that is what you need…”

HawkStream said:
See this kind of statement that proves a lot of people here must just be fan boy because it manes absolute no sense. ..
You like the placement? Really? You like that they chose to cover the speaker with a piece of metal as opposed to not covering the phones only speaker with a piece of metal?
So you look at all those other phones out there on the market and say… “Well I don’t know… Looks a little off, for one thing they need to have a movable piece of metal that in almost all uses of the phone is snapped down right over the speaker. “
Or
“Wow… the phone looks ok but that unimpeded speaker looks a little questionable… Better slap a piece of solid metal over it just to be sure… I think for a high end phone that is what you need…”
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For the second time, yes. Even with the metal stand over the speaker it's noticeably louder than my older devices.
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ddgarcia05 said:
For the second time, yes. Even with the metal stand over the speaker it's noticeably louder than my older devices.
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For the 2nd time... Who the hell cares?? This is not about the Thunderbolt Vs. "your older devices"!!
You really don’t get this yet?
It’s about the Thunderbolt with the kickstand closed Vs. the Thunderbolt with the kickstand open!!!

HawkStream said:
... Who the hell cares??
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You said it yourself.
I understand what you're saying, but I think your you're preaching to the choir on this one.
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Zomb!e said:
You said it yourself.
I understand what you're saying, but I think your you're preaching to the choir on this one.
Sent from Zeus' Thunderbolt
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Is the choir a bunch of people that refuse to acknowledge that the kickstand is a really bad design for two very significant reasons? Because if that’s the case... yes I am preaching to the choir…
But personally all I have seen on here are people that want to pretend that that’s not the case and blindly praise the device just because they have one.

I use headphones most of the time so its not really an issue.
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Video # 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sPr84FkQpE
Yup works great! Great design!

HawkStream said:
But personally all I have seen on here are people that want to pretend that that’s not the case and blindly praise the device just because they have one.
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Hey man I'll complain about other things regarding the TB. Lack of aluminum unibody, finicky GPS...when I reboot my TB sometimes it resets my ringtones...occasional data drops. The Speaker?? Sorry man but I love the speaker design. Best speaker I've ever had on a phone. The way they designed it works fantastic for me and I wouldn't change it if I could. I can even put the TB in the car dock and clearly hear the voice turn by turn commands with the window down, that's how loud and clear the speaker is for me. Ringtones and notifications, seinfeld episodes...phone calls on speakerphone all are loud and clear and often I have to turn the sound DOWN. Like I said it's one of the things I would NOT change about the TB. Everything I have described is with the kickstand closed. I do not use my kickstand.

Old MuckenMire said:
Hey man I'll complain about other things regarding the TB. Lack of aluminum unibody, finicky GPS...when I reboot my TB sometimes it resets my ringtones...occasional data drops. The Speaker?? Sorry man but I love the speaker design. Best speaker I've ever had on a phone. The way they designed it works fantastic for me and I wouldn't change it if I could. I can even put the TB in the car dock and clearly hear the voice turn by turn commands with the window down, that's how loud and clear the speaker is for me. Like I said it's one of the things I would NOT change about the TB. Everything I have described is with the kickstand closed. I do not use my kickstand.
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So again... just to get this straight... You would request a solid metal plate tightly fitted over speaker in recessed indention over just a normal speaker... OK. Check.
So why did they perforate the speaker cover underneath the solid metal plate? I guess the engineers determined that the perforated speaker grate covered by the solid metal plate was the ideal config huh? OK cool. I mean if it wasn’t for that kickstand they would have just had the speaker cover be a piece of solid metal by itself... Only because they knew it was going to be covered by another piece of metal most of the time did the decide that it needed to be perforated... ok I get it know.. Makes perfect since!! Damn this phone is high tech!

HawkStream said:
So again... just to get this straight... You would request a solid metal plate tightly fitted over speaker in recessed indention over just a normal speaker...
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Yes I did. Long before the TB was released I constantly email HTC and asked for this feature. They honored my request, gave me fantastic audio, and as a bonus irritated the hell out of you.
Sorry dude the speaker works great for me. I thought your video was funny but I don't use my kickstand so the USB placement is not an issue for me.
Why in the hell would I care what they did with the speaker as long as I can hear it loud and clear? The speaker causes no audio issues for me so they are free to cover it with the kickstand if they want to...at least on my phone. Oh and yours as well like I asked them to. If the kickstand affected the audio for me then I would be unhappy.

If you don't like it return it. Period. I have no issues with my speaker. Everyone else I know with this phone don't mind it either. They don't see it as an issue. Your not going to change minds by doing what you're doing. Just return the device and move along. Easy.
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I wonder what would happen if you drilled holes in the kickstand?

A Plead to Case Manufacturers

Design a case that has a 'channel' for the speaker. use a little bit of common sense in your design since lg didnt have the sense to design the phone correctly.
channel = put and indentation/recess from the speaker grill to the side and bottom edges of the case so the sound has a decent chance of escaping. or put a 1-2mm hump/bump on the bottom corners of the case to lift it up so the sound can escape.
help a brother out would ya? its prety much a guarantee that the first one to do this will have the most popular case among the n4 and the optimus owners.

I actually prefer having the back of a phone to be flat. It feels a lot better in my hand but I do agree that when the is face down the speakers are not hearable
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zephiK said:
I actually prefer having the back of a phone to be flat. It feels a lot better in my hand but I do agree that when the is face down the speakers are not hearable
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i like it being flat. reminds me of my old iphone days. i just wish they would have designed the phone in a way that we can hear notifications when sitting on a flat table. or better yet... the ringtone loud enough to wake me up when i get a phone call. i miss more calls and texts than i ever have.
its all well and good until you miss a home cooked meal because your brand new top of the line phone cannot emit decibels because the speaker is muffled.:angel:
i think a properly designed case will get around the issue pretty well. im talking about a recess or a couple of itty bitty bumps on the corners by the way. not a big hump.

Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 Case

Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 Case

Where did you buy yours?
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little rant...
What really annoys me about this and many cases is the lack of thought around the camera on the back. They leave a slot for it on the back peice of the case which is great, but when you open it up to actually take a photo, you need to hold the case like an open book as there isnt a slot on the front peice. I dont intend on using the camera much but having to hold the front flap out of the way of the lens while trying to get composition, focus and release the shutter is a pain in the bum! If I could flip the front all the way round to the back and hold it flush with the back, that would be far more convenient.

hertsjoatmon said:
little rant...
What really annoys me about this and many cases is the lack of thought around the camera on the back. They leave a slot for it on the back peice of the case which is great, but when you open it up to actually take a photo, you need to hold the case like an open book as there isnt a slot on the front peice. I dont intend on using the camera much but having to hold the front flap out of the way of the lens while trying to get composition, focus and release the shutter is a pain in the bum! If I could flip the front all the way round to the back and hold it flush with the back, that would be far more convenient.
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+1!
What also bothers me a little is the slit in the front flap of the case... for US owners, it looks like a mistake since we don't have that speaker there. Other than that, very happy with the quality, low profile and details - rubber footings for landscape upright position, magnet to hold front flap as prop in "keyboard" mode. A little expensive but I did the round about with case buying with the tab 10.1 and ultimately liked the official book case most.
Cases are available at BestBuy and B&H.

Picked one up at Best Buy last night. Absolutely prefer this over the Moko i just got. Only thing missing compared to other cases is a loop for a larger stylus and it's not heavy enough where it needs a handstrap.
I don't care about a camera hole on the front flap (to take pictures when the flap is folded over) as rear camera on this is more vestigial to my tablet use.
I do have issues with trying to stand it up the tall way with the cover - it sometimes wont hold the stand form and flips the tablet down.
This may get easier as it breaks in. There is no clasp magnetic or otherwise that holds the screen cover closed so it will fly open at times.
The tablet is protected on 3 corners (except the one that holds the stylus, obviously), completely covers the plastic back except for camera hole and front flap is thin but should protect the screen well enough in a bag. I like the clean design and it does raise the "premium" feel of the tablet in hand by covering up all the plastic.
I think if you care about adding the least bulk to the unit while still having a means of protecting it a bit, I think it does well.
BTW, if you had the 7.7 and the OEM cover for that, this cover is almost exactly like it - except this front flap is even thinner than the one on that one and can fold to help it stand. The 7.7 form fitting case that Samsung made could only stand by reversing the case flap and it would always fall over.

I bought it from Best Buy as well, it's not my first choice of cases, but it's probably the best out there now. Just too expensive, but I need protection for this unit. I'm hoping Seidio makes a case but I don't think this tablet will sell that well. I hope I'm wrong but it's fairly expensive. I think it is worth it but I have terrible judgment and love electronics.
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Just curious, what colors are people getting? I picked up a white one at BB, but thinking about exchanging it for the black...

Every portable device I've owned since my first Walkman, with the exception of my 3rd gen iPod in 2004, has been black, so the white device and matching white case is a welcome change for me.
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I couldn't take it anymore and exchanged for the black, lol. The all-white look was burning my eyes.

Picked this up today and it's going back. I do like how thin it is, but I notice the cover has a habit of bowing just enough to wake up the tablet and it's just close enough that it keeps waking it up. Case would be fine without the sleep/wake feature. Anyone know of a good knockoff without the magnet?
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ExploreMN said:
Case would be fine without the sleep/wake feature. Anyone know of a good knockoff without the magnet?
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You might like the STM Cape. It is a bit different, but appears to be very good quality, and it is less expensive and fairly light weight (judging by specs as I don't have one yet):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251888
I asked them and they confirmed it does not come with a magnet for wake/sleep. Personally that has disappointed me, but you provide a good example of where it can be a good thing to not have wake/sleep.
I've asked STM a few more questions that I'm waiting to hear back on, including what kind of padding is embedded in the front cover. Something that has concerned me about the official Samsung Book Cover is that the front cover seems so thin that I wonder how much protection it would really provide (particularly from any impact). The STM Cape appears to have some kind of stiff material (padding?) in between the outer layer and the soft inner lining. I'll post in the Cape thread whenever I hear back about that.

pluginalong said:
You might like the STM Cape. It is a bit different, but appears to be very good quality, and it is less expensive and fairly light weight (judging by specs as I don't have one yet):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251888
I asked them and they confirmed it does not come with a magnet for wake/sleep. Personally that has disappointed me, but you provide a good example of where it can be a good thing to not have wake/sleep.
I've asked STM a few more questions that I'm waiting to hear back on, including what kind of padding is embedded in the front cover. Something that has concerned me about the official Samsung Book Cover is that the front cover seems so thin that I wonder how much protection it would really provide (particularly from any impact). The STM Cape appears to have some kind of stiff material (padding?) in between the outer layer and the soft inner lining. I'll post in the Cape thread whenever I hear back about that.
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Thanks, I'll check it out. I don't mind thin. I never do anything that would damage a device like a phone or tablet anyway. Mostly I just want it for scratch protection since it could slide around in my briefcase and what-not.

I'm ordering this case from ebay. Looks more stable then samsung case.
KLD-Smart-Wake-UP-Flip-PU-Leather-Case-Cover-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-8-0-N5100-N5110
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scopidoo said:
I'm ordering this case from ebay. Looks more stable then samsung case. KLD-Smart-Wake-UP-Flip-PU-Leather-Case-Cover-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-8-0-N5100-N5110
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If you haven't already ordered I'd recommend having a look at the following thread that was a bit negative about the KLD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251300
The MoKo Ultra Slim Lightweight Smart-shell Stand Case mentioned in that same thread sounds more promising (in my opinion).

I have just ordered this one from ebay:
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121107475861
(I cannot post links yet, you'll need to copy and paste in your web browser)
It is cheap and looks slim and similar to the KLD one and it has a magnetic tab to keep it securely closed.
According to the description it supports "auto sleep and wake up when close and open" but I am not sure if I believe it. I can always open a dispute if it is not true

pluginalong said:
If you haven't already ordered I'd recommend having a look at the following thread that was a bit negative about the KLD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251300
The MoKo Ultra Slim Lightweight Smart-shell Stand Case mentioned in that same thread sounds more promising (in my opinion).
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This does look like a winner. Not extremely please about the Samsung case, regarding the inability to stand it up or keep the flap closed.
If you ordered this let us know how it goes.

OneMoreBrick said:
This does look like a winner. Not extremely please about the Samsung case, regarding the inability to stand it up or keep the flap closed.
If you ordered this let us know how it goes.
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Here's a helpful review:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270264

Anybody try the IVSO bluetooth keyboard cover?
http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Key...&keywords=galaxy+note+8.0+keyboard+case+cover

drexappeal said:
Anybody try the IVSO bluetooth keyboard cover?
http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Key...&keywords=galaxy+note+8.0+keyboard+case+cover
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I have not, but that is an intriguing product. I wonder if you might get a sense of the quality by looking at the reviews for the below version which I would guess uses the same keyboard (but with a different enclosure)?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio/dp/B00BH1HI4M/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_1

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I have not, but that is an intriguing product. I wonder if you might get a sense of the quality by looking at the reviews for the below version which I would guess uses the same keyboard (but with a different enclosure)?
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio/dp/B00BH1HI4M/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_1
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I read some reviews on the Note 10.1 version and they are mixed:
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Blue...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
I'll just keep it in consideration, unless someone on the forums actually purchases and tries it out.

PEPKOO S4 waterproof case you use it under water

Now i have new case for Galaxy S4.It can be used under water.Like listening to music,sending message,play games,and so on.You can try it!

Lol I claim lies. No link lte anything? 1 post and from china? Yeahhhhh.
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Just got this off eBay. Fit is okay, haven't water tested it yet. $25

mbonus said:
Just got this off eBay. Fit is okay, haven't water tested it yet. $25
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I think I would fill it with tissue paper before putting the phone in it.
Weight it down good and leave it under 1' of water for a few hours, then check the tissue to see if it's still dry or not.

Goods idea, here are some crappy pics of the case

CZ Eddie said:
I think I would fill it with tissue paper before putting the phone in it.
Weight it down good and leave it under 1' of water for a few hours, then check the tissue to see if it's still dry or not.
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What he said.

Well I did an overnight water test and it was successful with no water intrusion.
I have used the case for about a day so far.
My initial impressions are that it is much bigger than my previous case (slim armor view). The material is a hard plastic. The screen is glass and there are not perceivable distortions. Once snapped together it is hard to open again, which I guess you would want in a water tight case.
The touch screen is responsive with only a little difference in accessing the pull down menu. I haven't taken an actual call without Bluetooth, so I can't report on how it sounds to callers. I was able to hear my voicemail fine. I did leave myself a test message without a headset and the recorded sound was pretty muffled.
Biggest issue for me is the home button is really hard to press. I end up using my finger nail to get enough leverage. Maybe that will loosen over time.
Don't have qi charging, but am thinking about getting a receiver and seeing if it will work. It is not very convenient to use the USB cable
Not bad for 25; looks to have good protection for drops and ingress. Wouldn't pay more than I did shipped.

And because I'm a clown.....

Nice percula! Or is it a seabae?

7 year old false percula posing

post some videos of your S4 under water Mr trustworthy....

zammy said:
post some videos of your S4 under water Mr trustworthy....
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I'm not sure if you're saying I'm not trustworthy or the waterproof case; in any event here's a crappy zip.

You don't have a YouTube account???
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mbonus said:
I'm not sure if you're saying I'm not trustworthy or the waterproof case; in any event here's a crappy zip.
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hehe, was just thinking in my head that it did not seem very legit and I did want some video proof (also btw was expecting a longer exposure ^^).
Still the 24h in the water remains very impressive ^^
So thank you for the vid and don't hold yourselft from sharing more

KRAZYADROIDMASTER said:
You don't have a YouTube account???
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Nor Facebook or twitter.

I would like to give an update after using the case for over a week plus.
The touch screen has become more difficult to use over time. Especially when trying to enter text.
The door that covers the charging port seems to be getting looser over time: I am not sure how much I would trust this under water if it gets any looser.
The headphone port is so solid, I think it would actually break if I opened it.

about pepkoo casing
I've using my pepkoo casing around 2 weeks.
Everything's in good condition and I could hear any caller's voice very well.
Sadly, there's a problem when I tried to make for call out to friends.
It seemed they can't hear my voice clearly.
For some other reason, it has an echo sound of my own voice.
What's happening here?
May be because the type of waterproof casing?
Does anyone has any opinion on this issues?
Thanks so much.

mbonus said:
I would like to give an update after using the case for over a week plus.
The touch screen has become more difficult to use over time. Especially when trying to enter text.
The door that covers the charging port seems to be getting looser over time: I am not sure how much I would trust this under water if it gets any looser.
The headphone port is so solid, I think it would actually break if I opened it.
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I just bought and on the first day, the headphone port/cover break when i tried to open it
clay218 said:
I've using my pepkoo casing around 2 weeks.
Everything's in good condition and I could hear any caller's voice very well.
Sadly, there's a problem when I tried to make for call out to friends.
It seemed they can't hear my voice clearly.
For some other reason, it has an echo sound of my own voice.
What's happening here?
May be because the type of waterproof casing?
Does anyone has any opinion on this issues?
Thanks so much.
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Same issue with me but since i'm gonna claim warranty due to the headphone port break, i'm gonna ask that as well and see if they know about it....btw, have you tried "Adapt Sound" function in S4? Does it help?

I'm wondering how can you use headfone under water ? lol

Lifeproof case for the g5

I will most likely be going to best buy tomorrow to get a lifeproof for my g5, but I'm curious on the speaker and if it's f effected and if so how much? When/if (only is speaker is murdered) I get it I can also answer questions if you guys have any.

Youtube review!

DarkMage619 said:
Youtube review!
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For a 80 dollar price the case feels extremely cheap. I had it for a couple days but returned it. first case failed water test bottom port doesn't "seat" but is sealed by the pressure of clipping it together. (probably the most likely fail point), The screen protector sits too far from the screen you have to apply pressure for the screen to work. It's also difficult to swipe down from the top. There's thin sheets covering the camera and finger print scanner not sure how well they will hold up over time. As far as sound the back has a gap as well creating a vibrating effect when using the loud speaker. It's not hideous but quite annoying just the same. I didn't record any sound but chanced are that may be distorted as well. But some people may like the rattling sound of the speakers since lifeproof is calling it their sub woofing system lol. But this is just an opinion. You may like it.

I got one... I got it for functionality, as a machinist everywhere in my work area is oily including the air.
As mentioned above it does have a cheap feel to it. Mines passed the water test and that's what I was MOST interested in.
Touch navigation is flawless for me even with oily hands.
I was pleasantly surprised that the speaker/fingered print sensor/mic worked at all. Though output from speaker defiantly wasn't hifi. When I purchased I planned on always being connected on Bluetooth. After realizing that I could hear without headphones Bluetooth is now a option not a necessity.
Bottom line... If you spend time in wet environments it's a capable case up for task. If aesthetics is your goal go another direction.
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Got mine at worstbuy the same day I upgraded to the G5. I'm usually dubious of screen protector/all in one type cases. Plus, I have giant fingers, so that was a concern also.
I can happily report that so far I have not run into any issues with this case.
Notification drawer slides down with ease, sound isn't affected too much, touch is all but the same as w/o the case.
It just adds a little bulk to the phone (but that's expected with these types of cases). Otherwise, no complaints. Well worth the 79.99 investment.
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lifeproof will be great , if you do not mind to pay for 80 dollars

I like mine. It failed the water test the first time around so I sent in for another that works well. The only issue I have is using headphones. For some reason it thinks I'm sending voice commands when I don't even have a mic on my headphones. Sometimes it works great other times I get regular OK Google interruptions and the music will pause/unpause itself when placing the phone in my pocket.
EDIT: I'm actually going to return mine now. Or at least sell it. I do not trust this thing to be waterproof. Whenever I used it in the bathroom while I'm taking a shower (it just sits next to the sink... like 5 ft from the shower even) I notice water vapor trapped inside between the screen and protector the next day. This is the 2nd one I've noticed this with & the 2nd one even passed my initial water test, unlike the first. I don't trust this USB port cover to ever be waterproof and the issues with the headphone jack are just an icing on the cake.

somethinlike said:
I like mine. It failed the water test the first time around so I sent in for another that works well. The only issue I have is using headphones. For some reason it thinks I'm sending voice commands when I don't even have a mic on my headphones. Sometimes it works great other times I get regular OK Google interruptions and the music will pause/unpause itself when placing the phone in my pocket.
EDIT: I'm actually going to return mine now. Or at least sell it. I do not trust this thing to be waterproof. Whenever I used it in the bathroom while I'm taking a shower (it just sits next to the sink... like 5 ft from the shower even) I notice water vapor trapped inside between the screen and protector the next day. This is the 2nd one I've noticed this with & the 2nd one even passed my initial water test, unlike the first. I don't trust this USB port cover to ever be waterproof and the issues with the headphone jack are just an icing on the cake.
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The case is water proof. Not steam proof. Steam is a vapor not a liquid like water.. Steam can easily get past almost any waterproof product
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clninja said:
The case is water proof. Not steam proof. Steam is a vapor not a liquid like water.. Steam can easily get past almost any waterproof product
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Damn, someone should tell their customer support so they can tell dummies like myself haha. My phone got soaked in a camelbak related mishap the other day (works fine, got completely drenched while on. water in the battery compartment and everything) so I've been using the lifeproof since then. Their customer support is very nice and hassle free though.