Design a case that has a 'channel' for the speaker. use a little bit of common sense in your design since lg didnt have the sense to design the phone correctly.
channel = put and indentation/recess from the speaker grill to the side and bottom edges of the case so the sound has a decent chance of escaping. or put a 1-2mm hump/bump on the bottom corners of the case to lift it up so the sound can escape.
help a brother out would ya? its prety much a guarantee that the first one to do this will have the most popular case among the n4 and the optimus owners.
I actually prefer having the back of a phone to be flat. It feels a lot better in my hand but I do agree that when the is face down the speakers are not hearable
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I actually prefer having the back of a phone to be flat. It feels a lot better in my hand but I do agree that when the is face down the speakers are not hearable
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i like it being flat. reminds me of my old iphone days. i just wish they would have designed the phone in a way that we can hear notifications when sitting on a flat table. or better yet... the ringtone loud enough to wake me up when i get a phone call. i miss more calls and texts than i ever have.
its all well and good until you miss a home cooked meal because your brand new top of the line phone cannot emit decibels because the speaker is muffled.:angel:
i think a properly designed case will get around the issue pretty well. im talking about a recess or a couple of itty bitty bumps on the corners by the way. not a big hump.
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So I'm reading around and alot of people are hating the speaker placement on the tbolt. The speaker is placed right behind the kickstand. Personally to me I think it's a great spot. When the kickstand is closed the sound bounces off and projects to the front. I'm not noticing any substantial muffeling that everyone is talking about. The speaker is loud. Great speaker. Anyways what do you guys think about the tbolt speaker placement?
(On a side note worst speaker placement ever on a phone: iPhone series. Put the phone in landscape while playing a game and hand covers up the speaker. Horrible.)
Bounces off it??? It’s down in a crevice!!
Just pick one up and do anything that makes sound and open and close the kickstand... It does not take a rocket scientist to hear that in every single instance of the phone making sounds from ringtone, to speaker call, to YouTube video that the audio is muffled with the kickstand closed!!
It wouldn't sound muffled if you had robot ears!
OK let me rephrase this. Listening to music, playing games etc. Your hand makes a cup shape weather your in landscape or portrait. So if you doing anything with audio the sound is bouncing off your hands to you. It may be in a crevice but it's not air tight. Alot of the sound escapes toward the end of the kickstand. And that gap could possibly act as a cone and speed up the wavelength, increasing volume. But when your wanting to play audio with the kickstand out. The sound is bouncing all over the place. Off the table and kickstand. Giving off a louder sound. I'm just saying it's not the worst design flaw on the phone.
I'm doing a video demo right now... Will post link soon...
Here it is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1l-9oZAu4w
My 4 year old Nikon Coolpix couldn’t really pick up the stark audio differences…
but they are hugh!
I like the placement.
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I also like the placement.
Only an audiophile would care about the slightly muffled sound, and a true audiophile wouldn't use tiny phone speakers anyway.
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I also like the placement.
Only an audiophile would care about the slightly muffled sound, and a true audiophile wouldn't use tiny phone speakers anyway.
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See this kind of statement that proves a lot of people here must just be fan boy because it manes absolute no sense. ..
You like the placement? Really? You like that they chose to cover the speaker with a piece of metal as opposed to not covering the phones only speaker with a piece of metal?
So you look at all those other phones out there on the market and say… “Well I don’t know… Looks a little off, for one thing they need to have a movable piece of metal that in almost all uses of the phone is snapped down right over the speaker. “
Or
“Wow… the phone looks ok but that unimpeded speaker looks a little questionable… Better slap a piece of solid metal over it just to be sure… I think for a high end phone that is what you need…”
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See this kind of statement that proves a lot of people here must just be fan boy because it manes absolute no sense. ..
You like the placement? Really? You like that they chose to cover the speaker with a piece of metal as opposed to not covering the phones only speaker with a piece of metal?
So you look at all those other phones out there on the market and say… “Well I don’t know… Looks a little off, for one thing they need to have a movable piece of metal that in almost all uses of the phone is snapped down right over the speaker. “
Or
“Wow… the phone looks ok but that unimpeded speaker looks a little questionable… Better slap a piece of solid metal over it just to be sure… I think for a high end phone that is what you need…”
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For the second time, yes. Even with the metal stand over the speaker it's noticeably louder than my older devices.
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For the second time, yes. Even with the metal stand over the speaker it's noticeably louder than my older devices.
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For the 2nd time... Who the hell cares?? This is not about the Thunderbolt Vs. "your older devices"!!
You really don’t get this yet?
It’s about the Thunderbolt with the kickstand closed Vs. the Thunderbolt with the kickstand open!!!
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... Who the hell cares??
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You said it yourself.
I understand what you're saying, but I think your you're preaching to the choir on this one.
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You said it yourself.
I understand what you're saying, but I think your you're preaching to the choir on this one.
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Is the choir a bunch of people that refuse to acknowledge that the kickstand is a really bad design for two very significant reasons? Because if that’s the case... yes I am preaching to the choir…
But personally all I have seen on here are people that want to pretend that that’s not the case and blindly praise the device just because they have one.
I use headphones most of the time so its not really an issue.
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Video # 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sPr84FkQpE
Yup works great! Great design!
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But personally all I have seen on here are people that want to pretend that that’s not the case and blindly praise the device just because they have one.
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Hey man I'll complain about other things regarding the TB. Lack of aluminum unibody, finicky GPS...when I reboot my TB sometimes it resets my ringtones...occasional data drops. The Speaker?? Sorry man but I love the speaker design. Best speaker I've ever had on a phone. The way they designed it works fantastic for me and I wouldn't change it if I could. I can even put the TB in the car dock and clearly hear the voice turn by turn commands with the window down, that's how loud and clear the speaker is for me. Ringtones and notifications, seinfeld episodes...phone calls on speakerphone all are loud and clear and often I have to turn the sound DOWN. Like I said it's one of the things I would NOT change about the TB. Everything I have described is with the kickstand closed. I do not use my kickstand.
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Hey man I'll complain about other things regarding the TB. Lack of aluminum unibody, finicky GPS...when I reboot my TB sometimes it resets my ringtones...occasional data drops. The Speaker?? Sorry man but I love the speaker design. Best speaker I've ever had on a phone. The way they designed it works fantastic for me and I wouldn't change it if I could. I can even put the TB in the car dock and clearly hear the voice turn by turn commands with the window down, that's how loud and clear the speaker is for me. Like I said it's one of the things I would NOT change about the TB. Everything I have described is with the kickstand closed. I do not use my kickstand.
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So again... just to get this straight... You would request a solid metal plate tightly fitted over speaker in recessed indention over just a normal speaker... OK. Check.
So why did they perforate the speaker cover underneath the solid metal plate? I guess the engineers determined that the perforated speaker grate covered by the solid metal plate was the ideal config huh? OK cool. I mean if it wasn’t for that kickstand they would have just had the speaker cover be a piece of solid metal by itself... Only because they knew it was going to be covered by another piece of metal most of the time did the decide that it needed to be perforated... ok I get it know.. Makes perfect since!! Damn this phone is high tech!
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So again... just to get this straight... You would request a solid metal plate tightly fitted over speaker in recessed indention over just a normal speaker...
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Yes I did. Long before the TB was released I constantly email HTC and asked for this feature. They honored my request, gave me fantastic audio, and as a bonus irritated the hell out of you.
Sorry dude the speaker works great for me. I thought your video was funny but I don't use my kickstand so the USB placement is not an issue for me.
Why in the hell would I care what they did with the speaker as long as I can hear it loud and clear? The speaker causes no audio issues for me so they are free to cover it with the kickstand if they want to...at least on my phone. Oh and yours as well like I asked them to. If the kickstand affected the audio for me then I would be unhappy.
If you don't like it return it. Period. I have no issues with my speaker. Everyone else I know with this phone don't mind it either. They don't see it as an issue. Your not going to change minds by doing what you're doing. Just return the device and move along. Easy.
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I wonder what would happen if you drilled holes in the kickstand?
i dont mind plastic as long as its good quality, also is it worth the price? i want one but its expensive..
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i dont mind plastic as long as its good quality, also is it worth the price? i want one but its expensive..
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I have had mine for around a month and a half. It is honestly used and abused for around 10-17 hours a day, six to 7 days a week. Mostly by me personally. It has developed a few small creeks in the backing at the surround for the s pen and at the top corners around the camera. These creeks are not bad. There is no perceptible wearing on the buttons.
I did drop this tablet from about 4 1/2 feet onto the glass screen on a ceramic tile floor, it landed almost flush with the screen. Despite the first ever in my life dropping of a tablet or laptop the screen did not take any perceptible damage and I did examine it thourally. After 4 or 5 minutes of profanity directed at my self for clumsiness I began to breathe again. It left no scratches in any light at any angle. I feel that this would be a very different case should an impact be delivered on a corner.
The silver band surrounding the front bezal is in very good condition showing no wear as yet though I feel that this is a weakness and will show wear before any other part. The s pen is holding up perfectly so far. Overall I would say the build quality of this unit is good with normal creeks when dealing with plastic parts though I do believe samsung should go metal with a plastic window for gps at this price point. The polish finish of this unit shows the slightest fingerprint and I feel samsung should use a matt finish however im sure some disagree with me.
im eyeballing a refurb from here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131468
I think there well worth it, don't know how much they cost in the state's but couldn't be as much as in Australia and I'm happy with the Australian price
Although I think we pay too much generally for any tech over here. I don't mind p lastic for the body it probably makes it a little more shock absorbent, the screens good, the s-pen comes in handy for things like sketching if your into that and note taking. I also really like the front facing speakers and. Haven't come across any problems yet playing any of the Graphics heavy games either.
Looks like a good deal for a 32gb unit to me. I hope you get a lot of enjoyment from it. I certainly like mine.
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well i dont know if i want it from there says at bottom its a B grade item
I find the build quality to be adequate. I had a Transformer tf300t prior, & it felt superior in hand. Very solid and no creaking. The Note feels lighter in hand. It does creak a bit, but once I put it in a leather folio case, it does not.
The fact that the speakers are on the front, the color contrast of the screen, & the s-pen more than make up for any build faults in my opinion.
Build quality is good. I'm satisfied
I really appreciate the lightness and thinness of the unit.
One thing I always do with all my tablets is buy TPU covers.
As I use my Note 10.1 constantly throughout the day I'm not buying a cover that goes across both the back and screen - that would be too inconvenient. I have thought of buying a Zero-shock / memory foam sleeve but I don't get out enough to justify its purchase.
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im eyeballing a refurb from here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131468
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Very good price for a 32gb refurb version
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Very good price for a 32gb refurb version
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ya but read description down towards bottom says "b" grade i dont know if thats just because its a refurb or means has some kind of flaw or something
Personally I'm not too happy with the build quality. I feel the back tends to Creek from time to time. I don't like the fact that it use a proprietary cable and not a standard Mico usb. all that saidi would definitely buy it again.
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Im satisfied aswell. No gripes here, although im a little annoyed that the gray coating around the headphones and chargering ports are starting to scratch and chip away
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Im satisfied aswell. No gripes here, although im a little annoyed that the gray coating around the headphones and chargering ports are starting to scratch and chip away
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emails to newegg they gave me samsungs number they arent sure
It kinda bothers me that the speaker on the infinity points backward.
I usually wind up cupping my hand around it for better sound, but i got sick of doing that so I made an echo chamber out of the side of a juice bottle.
It works really well, you get much more high and mid range sound making voices clearer.
Check out the attached photos to see the end result. I think its ok for a first go, it proves that it works nicely so i may have a go at making one out of better materials at some stage.
Interesting solution. Also, nice cover Oo
I still prefer headphones, especially if there are other sounds in the room.
And Diceplayer has a 400% volume boost option, that helps. (my neighbours came over yesterday to ask if I could please turn the volume down, it was so noisy )
Cool! I've been thinking about doing something like this so this is really helpful. I've been using a folded post-it note every now and then to create a similar effect and will try to make something like this as this is certainly more permanent.
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Having used my creation for a couple of days I'm really happy with it.
I covered the it in black electrical tape, looks much more professional now
I usually don't have the tablet set to max volume but it really bugs me that all the sound points away from you, this fixes that problem.
Its been great for watching movies in bed and not having to cup your hand or such.
It stays on quite well but if i did not have a skin on my tablet i would be concerned that it would scratch the back of the tablet.
I guess for an unskinned tablet you might not include the front clips and just use blutack or similar to keep it in place, that would avoid scratches.
All up a successful experiment and I recycled
Very cool! Thanks for sharing! I've been thinking of doing something similar to this. Think I'll give it a try tomorrow.
Oh also, is that the Ghost Armor gunmetal grey full body on your Infinity? That's what I have on mine and yours looks identical!
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The skin is a skinomi black carbon fiber skin.
Not really carbon fiber (some kind of vinyl i think) but its got a good texture and is waaaay more scratch resistant than the normal shinny metal back.
I actually got the skin because i saw another user on this forum posted photos of their infinity skinned and I just thought it looked awesome.
Same for me, way more resistant than metal back, and the feeling is amazing
I usually wear medium large gloves so my hands aren't small, but my thumb can only reach about half the 6p screen when gripping it.
Thought this finger ring thing was silly and clunky. Turns out not that bad and pretty useful. Bought it on ebay for like 1-2 dollars. The sticky pad is strong and I have confidence it won't fall off. They claim it is removable, reusable and washable.
The ring part is stiff and holds it's position/angle well. I use my finger tips to support the phone and the ring for grip. Don't need to hold the sides of the phone as I normally do. This allows my thumb extra range and motion. Actually feels more secure than holding it normally. Ring can be folded down out of the way; I don't noticed it much.
Fly grip is pretty similar and a lil more streamline. You may want to check that out to
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toknitup420 said:
Fly grip is pretty similar and a lil more streamline. You may want to check that out to
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$29.99 seems pricey to me. Doesn't rotate to hold in other position beside portrait?
Looks a bit silly tbh. But hey, each to his own. I can see cases (pun intended) where this could be useful.
Just bought a NoBiggi strap. I'll have a review of them as soon as I receive my phone.
Donald Trump uses one of these.
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I will most likely be going to best buy tomorrow to get a lifeproof for my g5, but I'm curious on the speaker and if it's f effected and if so how much? When/if (only is speaker is murdered) I get it I can also answer questions if you guys have any.
Youtube review!
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Youtube review!
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For a 80 dollar price the case feels extremely cheap. I had it for a couple days but returned it. first case failed water test bottom port doesn't "seat" but is sealed by the pressure of clipping it together. (probably the most likely fail point), The screen protector sits too far from the screen you have to apply pressure for the screen to work. It's also difficult to swipe down from the top. There's thin sheets covering the camera and finger print scanner not sure how well they will hold up over time. As far as sound the back has a gap as well creating a vibrating effect when using the loud speaker. It's not hideous but quite annoying just the same. I didn't record any sound but chanced are that may be distorted as well. But some people may like the rattling sound of the speakers since lifeproof is calling it their sub woofing system lol. But this is just an opinion. You may like it.
I got one... I got it for functionality, as a machinist everywhere in my work area is oily including the air.
As mentioned above it does have a cheap feel to it. Mines passed the water test and that's what I was MOST interested in.
Touch navigation is flawless for me even with oily hands.
I was pleasantly surprised that the speaker/fingered print sensor/mic worked at all. Though output from speaker defiantly wasn't hifi. When I purchased I planned on always being connected on Bluetooth. After realizing that I could hear without headphones Bluetooth is now a option not a necessity.
Bottom line... If you spend time in wet environments it's a capable case up for task. If aesthetics is your goal go another direction.
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Got mine at worstbuy the same day I upgraded to the G5. I'm usually dubious of screen protector/all in one type cases. Plus, I have giant fingers, so that was a concern also.
I can happily report that so far I have not run into any issues with this case.
Notification drawer slides down with ease, sound isn't affected too much, touch is all but the same as w/o the case.
It just adds a little bulk to the phone (but that's expected with these types of cases). Otherwise, no complaints. Well worth the 79.99 investment.
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lifeproof will be great , if you do not mind to pay for 80 dollars
I like mine. It failed the water test the first time around so I sent in for another that works well. The only issue I have is using headphones. For some reason it thinks I'm sending voice commands when I don't even have a mic on my headphones. Sometimes it works great other times I get regular OK Google interruptions and the music will pause/unpause itself when placing the phone in my pocket.
EDIT: I'm actually going to return mine now. Or at least sell it. I do not trust this thing to be waterproof. Whenever I used it in the bathroom while I'm taking a shower (it just sits next to the sink... like 5 ft from the shower even) I notice water vapor trapped inside between the screen and protector the next day. This is the 2nd one I've noticed this with & the 2nd one even passed my initial water test, unlike the first. I don't trust this USB port cover to ever be waterproof and the issues with the headphone jack are just an icing on the cake.
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I like mine. It failed the water test the first time around so I sent in for another that works well. The only issue I have is using headphones. For some reason it thinks I'm sending voice commands when I don't even have a mic on my headphones. Sometimes it works great other times I get regular OK Google interruptions and the music will pause/unpause itself when placing the phone in my pocket.
EDIT: I'm actually going to return mine now. Or at least sell it. I do not trust this thing to be waterproof. Whenever I used it in the bathroom while I'm taking a shower (it just sits next to the sink... like 5 ft from the shower even) I notice water vapor trapped inside between the screen and protector the next day. This is the 2nd one I've noticed this with & the 2nd one even passed my initial water test, unlike the first. I don't trust this USB port cover to ever be waterproof and the issues with the headphone jack are just an icing on the cake.
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The case is water proof. Not steam proof. Steam is a vapor not a liquid like water.. Steam can easily get past almost any waterproof product
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The case is water proof. Not steam proof. Steam is a vapor not a liquid like water.. Steam can easily get past almost any waterproof product
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Damn, someone should tell their customer support so they can tell dummies like myself haha. My phone got soaked in a camelbak related mishap the other day (works fine, got completely drenched while on. water in the battery compartment and everything) so I've been using the lifeproof since then. Their customer support is very nice and hassle free though.