Android 11 Loss of "HD Audio" in Developer Settings - Google Pixel 4a Guides, News, & Discussion

I know before upgrading to 11, under Developer Settings in the bluetooth section, HD Audio was an accessible toggle that was on by default. I've upgraded to 11 and now HD Audio is off and inaccssible. I've since rooted the device, it passes safetynet, but I noticed this change before rooting.
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Further, the 4a support LDAC, Sony's proprietary codec, but when connecting my Sony MDR-1000x to the device, it only gives me the option of SBC.
Has anyone else experienced problems with Bluetooth as shown above? It could be an 11 bug or related to unlocking the bootloader. I could see google doing something like that, where if the bootloader is unlocked, proprietary codecs like aptx, aptx HD, LDAC are no longer accessible. Audio quality is so much worse now, even SBC vs AAC.

Disconnect headset and turn off bluetooth, gray out means not supported by connected headset

He's correct. Both the broadcasting and receiving devices must support the same codecs. It is unfortunate and surprising but still very much the case that a large (if not the majority) of bluetooth devices still don't support higher quality codecs like aptx, LDAC, etc.

Sorry, i wasn't clear. There are two issues here:
The first being the "HD Audio" grayed out an toggled off, when it was not previously.
The second is the P4a on 11 is not using the LDAC codec when it did previously. The Sony headphones I referred to have connected to the P4A on 10 using LDAC. On 10, my car used AAC, now it uses SBC. It is not a matter of the device it is connecting to, something changed in the phone itself. Whether this is a bug in 11, a cause of unlocking the bootloader or something else needs to be tested.
Unless i'm just a fringe case and no one else sees these problems on their devices.

bobbarker2 said:
..."HD Audio" grayed out an toggled off, when it was not previously.
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Same (Android 11)

..."HD Audio" grayed out an toggled off, when it was not previously.
Try disable and enable again the Developer Options

> Has anyone else experienced problems with Bluetooth as shown above?
My Pixel 3 is not rooted. I'm experiencing this problem after upgrading to Android 11.
I could enable LDAC before, so I think this is a problem of Android 11.
> Try disable and enable again the Developer Options
On my Pixel 3, it's always disabled. I cannot enable it.
Edit:
I could enable LDAC:
* Install Sony's "Headphone" app.
* Connect headphone.
* Go to "Sound" tab, change "Sound Quality Mode" from "Priority on Stable Connection" to "Priority on Sound Quality".

ngocdaothanh said:
> Has anyone else experienced problems with Bluetooth as shown above?
My Pixel 3 is not rooted. I'm experiencing this problem after upgrading to Android 11.
I could enable LDAC before, so I think this is a problem of Android 11.
> Try disable and enable again the Developer Options
On my Pixel 3, it's always disabled. I cannot enable it.
Edit:
I could enable LDAC:
* Install Sony's "Headphone" app.
* Connect headphone.
* Go to "Sound" tab, change "Sound Quality Mode" from "Priority on Stable Connection" to "Priority on Sound Quality".
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The proposed workaround was to toggle Developer Options slider itself. After you switch Developer Options on again, then option to enable HD audio wouldn't be greyed out and can be switched on.

What is HD audio? A search doesn't pull anything up

Allen77777 said:
What is HD audio? A search doesn't pull anything up
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It means different things, depending on the context. Aptx-hd is a higher quality protocol than aptx. Bluetooth is a bit crap and can't transfer enough data for a losslessly encoded file - think flac, lossless wav etc - in realtime so they are lossily compressed. Depending on the ears, protocol, music and listener this may or may not have an audible difference. Different protocols (aptx, ldac etc) take different approaches, and there are licencing and "not invented here" elements too, as well as differing support for apple, android, linux, windows etc. Sony, for example, in recent months, has released some headphones without support for aptx-hd, opting for either higher-end ldac, or crappier common-denominator sbc. Not all devices support ldac. (Sony might implemented aptx-hd at a later date but it would be foolish to buy the newer headphones now and hope this will happen.)
HD audio also has a meaning apart from headphones and relating to the bitrate and sample depth of the music. It's silly to bother with anything at better quality rate than regular CD as both theory and practice demonstrates there's no audible difference. But it does allow marketing types - as well as deluded self-styled "audiophiles" - to suggest the wasting of a lot of money on useless placebos.
https://youtu.be/cIQ9IXSUzuM
https://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml
https://web.archive.org/web/20200106153341/https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
(Not sure why the original page is no longer up!)

_a! said:
...HD audio also has a meaning apart from headphones and relating to the bitrate and sample depth of the music. It's silly to bother with anything at better quality rate than regular CD as both theory and practice demonstrates there's no audible difference. But it does allow marketing types - as well as deluded self-styled "audiophiles" - to suggest the wasting of a lot of money on useless placebos.
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Outstsnding - applies to many things in life (90% of XDA content)

_a! said:
It means different things, depending on the context. Aptx-hd is a higher quality protocol than aptx. Bluetooth is a bit crap and can't transfer enough data for a losslessly encoded file - think flac, lossless wav etc - in realtime so they are lossily compressed. Depending on the ears, protocol, music and listener this may or may not have an audible difference. Different protocols (aptx, ldac etc) take different approaches, and there are licencing and "not invented here" elements too, as well as differing support for apple, android, linux, windows etc. Sony, for example, in recent months, has released some headphones without support for aptx-hd, opting for either higher-end ldac, or crappier common-denominator sbc. Not all devices support ldac. (Sony might implemented aptx-hd at a later date but it would be foolish to buy the newer headphones now and hope this will happen.)
HD audio also has a meaning apart from headphones and relating to the bitrate and sample depth of the music. It's silly to bother with anything at better quality rate than regular CD as both theory and practice demonstrates there's no audible difference. But it does allow marketing types - as well as deluded self-styled "audiophiles" - to suggest the wasting of a lot of money on useless placebos.
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The HD Audio is an Android Developer Settings unique. Who knows what it actually does.
Of course you're never going to get the same fidelity from wired vs bluetooth, but you are 100% wrong if you think the codec (not protocol as you refered to them) makes no difference. SBC is the baseline codec supported on all audio bluetooth devices. AAC is the next step up, where even the untrained ear can hear the difference in quality. Sony has never released any audio device that support APTX/APTX-HD codecs because they are Qualcomm proprietary codecs. Meaning its direct competition to their own proprietary codec, LDAC. No audio devices besides Sony-made support LDAC. SBC has a bit rate is 330kbps at 44.1kHz while LDAC is 990kbps at 24bit/96kHz.
And audio is a lot more complex than "CD quality is best everything else is marketing BS". Many audiophiles prefer vinyl over CD as there is no digital to analog conversion. You should look up how digital audio becomes analog and the different properties that go along with this process. Basically everything you said is quantifiably wrong.

bobbarker2 said:
Of course you're never going to get the same fidelity from wired vs bluetooth, but you are 100% wrong if you think the codec (not protocol as you refered to them) makes no difference.
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I literally opened with "Aptx-hd is a higher quality protocol than aptx".
bobbarker2 said:
Sony has never released any audio device that support APTX/APTX-HD codecs because they are Qualcomm proprietary codecs.
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Wrong:
https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/headband-headphones/wh-ch700n/specifications
bobbarker2 said:
Meaning its direct competition to their own proprietary codec, LDAC. No audio devices besides Sony-made support LDAC.
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LDAC has been part of the Android standard since Android 8, and is included in millions of phones and other devices. If something supports LDAC it is by definition an "audio device".
bobbarker2 said:
Many audiophiles prefer vinyl over CD as there is no digital to analog conversion. You should look up how digital audio becomes analog and the different properties that go along with this process.
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Given that most music these days is recorded and edited digitally there has to be at least one D/A conversion so that it can be cut on vinyl, yes? There's no point quoting what audiophiles prefer as proof for anything, by the way. Red Book quality audio is objectively better on any metric. If you'd read/watched (and understood) the resources I linked to you'd know that, and that it's possible to *completely* and accurately sample analogue source, store digitally, and convert back to analogue without loss. Unless, of course, you're going to stand with the "audiophiles" against the likes of Shannon and Nyquist.
bobbarker2 said:
Basically everything you said is quantifiably wrong.
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LOL!

_a! said:
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Wrong:
https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/headband-headphones/wh-ch700n/specifications
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Wow you really got me there, I didn't know Sony had Made for Apple headphones. Notice what it doesn't support thoufh? LDAC. Why? Because the iPhone doesn't support LDAC.
So Sony was forced to buy licensing from Qualcomm so their Made for Apple headphones could use the higher quality codec and not just AAC or SBC.
My point still stands.
LDAC has been part of the Android standard since Android 8, and is included in millions of phones and other devices. If something supports LDAC it is by definition an "audio device".
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Uh k? Not sure what you are even replying to.
Given that most music these days is recorded and edited digitally there has to be at least one D/A conversion so that it can be cut on vinyl, yes? There's no point quoting what audiophiles prefer as proof for anything, by the way. Red Book quality audio is objectively better on any metric. If you'd read/watched (and understood) the resources I linked to you'd know that, and that it's possible to *completely* and accurately sample analogue source, store digitally, and convert back to analogue without loss. Unless, of course, you're going to stand with the "audiophiles" against the likes of Shannon and Nyquist.
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You obviously don't know what digital to analog means. There's no point in me typing more.

bobbarker2 said:
Wow you really got me there, I didn't know Sony had Made for Apple headphones. Notice what it doesn't support thoufh? LDAC. Why? Because the iPhone doesn't support LDAC.
So Sony was forced to buy licensing from Qualcomm so their Made for Apple headphones could use the higher quality codec and not just AAC or SBC.
My point still stands.
Uh k? Not sure what you are even replying to.
You obviously don't know what digital to analog means. There's no point in me typing more.
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Not sure why you're bringing up Apple and iPhones. "Made for apple headphones?" Dunno about that; I bought it for my Android phone. It's made for anything with a compatible codec, no? Not sure why you're confused when I wrote (in a well-quoted message) that all Android devices supported LDAC in response to your incorrect comment "No audio devices besides Sony-made support LDAC". Not sure why you're confused about the obvious need to convert digital source material into analog for the production of vinyl. Everything I wrote was a fairly basic statement of fact; it's hard to see how anyone could misread it.

_a! said:
Not sure why you're bringing up Apple and iPhones. "Made for apple headphones?" Dunno about that; I bought it for my Android phone. It's made for anything with a compatible codec, no? Not sure why you're confused when I wrote (in a well-quoted message) that all Android devices supported LDAC in response to your incorrect comment "No audio devices besides Sony-made support LDAC". Not sure why you're confused about the obvious need to convert digital source material into analog for the production of vinyl. Everything I wrote was a fairly basic statement of fact; it's hard to see how anyone could misread it.
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The headphones you found have the Made for iPod and Made for iPhone trademarks on the cover sheet of the guide.
"Made for iPod” “Made for iPhone” mean that an electronic accessory has been designed to connect specifically
to iPod or iPhone, respectively, and has been certified by the developer to meet Apple performance standard."
AAC is mainly used by Apple products such as iPhones, and it provides higher sound quality than that of SBC
aptX is used by some Android smartphones, and it provides higher sound quality
than that of SBC.
aptX HD is used by some Android smartphones, and it provides higher sound
quality than that of aptX.
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Is english not your first language?
Of course Sony isn't going to make Bluetooth headphones specifically for Apple or Android, but it's seems pretty clear that they could not include LDAC otherwise they would not be able to license the Apple trademarks, which for whatever reason they decided were more important than inclusion of the codec.
Android devices support LDAC. That means your BT audio will use LDAC if you are using a phone with Android 8.0+ AND a LDAC compatible bluetooth output device. And since LDAC is a Sony proprietary codec, It can not be utilized without a Sony-made hardware counterpart that supports LDAC. Is that worded precisily enough for you?
Vinyl is not the conversion of digital to audio. A vinyl record is an analog storage of an audio recording. When you play a vinyl record, there is no digital to analog conversion taking place. It is an analog source that is reproduced as sound waves through your speaker vibrations (analog).
a CD is a digital storage of an audio recording. Therefore in order to create sound waves via speaker vibration (analog), a digital to analog conversion must take place. The component that does this is called a DAC.
Saying the recording and mastering of the audio uses electronic devices has nothing to do with the playback of the stored media and whether a Digital to Analog Conversion (DAC) took place.
It gets much more nuanced but frankly I shouldn't have even taken the time to write this post so you can Google for more information.

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[DEV] Voodoo Sound for Transformer v1 for 3.0.1, 3.1. Feature requests and discussion

Hi everyone!
Asus EeePad Transformer hosts a very nice audio codec by Wolfson that powers both the headphone and speaker output.
Its the ultra low power WM8903, implementing a midrange DAC (Wolfson-scale) that outputs a clean and musical signal, and my favorite Class W headphone amp, that gives a clean controlled and accurate output, and is able to drive full-size 300 Ohms headphones without distortion.
The transformer audio power stage is not as powerful as other device I tune so at maximum volume but I'm sure you'll be surprised by the capability of this amp if you compare it to any other mobile non-Voodoo device.
I might limit the maximum gain to +3dB to avoid saturation.
Voodoo sound is:
A control Android application
- Free version (semi broken on Honeycomb ATM, will fix soon): https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.controlapp
- Plus/Donate version: https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.controlappdonate
Plus version gives the ability to get full Voodoo sound implementation without depending on a custom kernel. Root is required to load the additional driver.
Free version requires a kernel implementing Voodoo sound GPL patches as you'll find plenty on XDA.
Features of the v1 :
I'll be very accurate and describe the exact change so far.
As usual, you get what you see.
What Voodoo sound driver v1 does on transformer is mapping volume to the headphone amplifier hardware control.
In the standard configuration, here is how it works: Most time only half or less of the Dynamic Range of the DAC is used (depending on the current output volume) by trimming the signal amplitude in a digital way.
What brings the driver v1 is a maximization of the digital volume, so the system works really on 16bit instead of 12 or even less at low volumes. And instead of that you control directly the analog gain of the Class W headphone amplifier built in the codec.
It allows to get more powerful sound, like to drive full-size high-impedance headphones at desired volumes, but for most people using sensitive headphones (same for in-ear) the sound is improved because there's far less hiss by reducing the analog gain.
When you reduce the noise level, the sound is more clear and defined.
I have some more leads in development for this codec, like:
- better oversampling quality (128x oversampling, require also clock reconfiguration on the SoC)
- alternative digital filter to reduce the very high frequency intensity ( > 20kHz) in order to reduce the listening fatigue.
WM8903 doesn't support digital effects like parametric EQ or 3D effect so I won't be able to activate that, but there's still some headroom to improve the quality and neutrality of the response, audiophile-style
Here are measurements I made without any modification, on 3.1:
http://supercurio.project-voodoo.org/audio/eeepadtransformer/Asus EeePad Transformer Android 3_1.htm
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Planned features
- Better SRS presets for the speakers
- Maybe some volume boost for speakers if possible with reasonable quality.
- If usable and providing sufficient quality: customizable EQ & 3D effect using SRS software engine for the Headphone out.
Screenshot of the first version, thanks jjsoviet
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this looks great.
SO its a better sound driver so to speak?
Digiguest said:
SO its a better sound driver so to speak?
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Eyup.
Actually, it pains me to know that my Transformer now beats the crap out of my Zune HD in some areas, like soundstage and overall dynamics. Whatever voodoo hoodoo shmoodoo Supercurio's cooking on his kernel kitchen, I love it.
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SO its a better sound driver so to speak?
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Yes its an additional driver built around the existing one in order to use the audio hardware in the optimal way.
Most manufacturer are happy enough when their device output sounds, but in many case the result can be improved, sometimes vastly.
And I must say.. its particularly interesting when the audio hardware is made by Wolfson, because you know the result can probably reach audiophile-quality levels!
Will this also help the tf's speakers? I've beem ok wirh the headphones but not the speakers.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App
It says the free version is not compatible...
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It says the free version is not compatible...
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Free version requires a custom kernel implementing Voodoo patches.
The first custom Kernel supporting Voodoo sound is this one, by Clemsyn! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109630
As stated in the description today the free App is semi broken (the manual volume slider crashes on Honeycomb, but the volume key mapping works)
I'm working on an update ATM.
supercurio said:
Free version requires a custom kernel implementing Voodoo patches.
The first custom Kernel supporting Voodoo sound is this one, by Clemsyn! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109630
As stated in the description today the free App is semi broken (the manual volume slider crashes on Honeycomb, but the volume key mapping works)
I'm working on an update ATM.
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Also say incompatible with the custom kernel installed.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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Also say incompatible with the custom kernel installed.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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Voodoo Control 1.0.7 finds the driver here: http://twitpic.com/5ei07e (only the volume key mapping works ATM)
If it's not detected it means your kernel actually running doesn't implement Voodoo Sound.
Note: Clemsyn published the kernel very recently!
Just tried your apk and it's pretty impressive, sound is clearer and cripspier when I play dungeon defenders with my kids and it seems louder than the Gtab now. Didn't even think my transformer will sound like this
supercurio said:
Free version requires a custom kernel implementing Voodoo patches.
The first custom Kernel supporting Voodoo sound is this one, by Clemsyn! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109630
As stated in the description today the free App is semi broken (the manual volume slider crashes on Honeycomb, but the volume key mapping works)
I'm working on an update ATM.
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I understand, I'll wait for one that says compatible. I've got the kernel - in fact clemsyn is hosting it on my server
clemsyn said:
Just tried your apk and it's pretty impressive, sound is clearer and cripspier when I play dungeon defenders with my kids and it seems louder than the Gtab now. Didn't even think my transformer will sound like this
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Thanks.
You're talking about the headphone output right?
Because the speaker output is not (yet) affected. I hate to contradict people hearing improvements but I must sometime by integrity
Just dl'd the free version from the market to run with Clemsyns kernel and it seems to be working nicely. Thank you very much for the hard work.
Couple of requests would be:
1. Mic gain control
2. The stock music player always pauses when the screen is off. When using headphones you can hear what sounds like the headphone feed being turned off...
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Thanks.
I hate to contradict people hearing improvements but I must sometime by integrity
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The Power of Suggestion is a powerful tool. Use it WISELY! LOL!!!!
Hey SC,
First, awesome job on getting this to Tf (bought the donate app awhile back for my Galaxy S, and now you're making me ha ppy with Tf).
Main feature request from my side would be mic sensitivity, this time the other way around was too sensitive on galaxys, needs pumping on tf. Also, if anything could be done to the internal mic quality on software level, would be awesome.
Thanks!
On a side note, I was sure i heard an improvement with speakers after installing control app, but that might be placebo effect.
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2. The stock music player always pauses when the screen is off. When using headphones you can hear what sounds like the headphone feed being turned off...
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This is the one thing I don't get it. Why does the sound stop after the screen goes off?
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jwilliamf said:
This is the one thing I don't get it. Why does the sound stop after the screen goes off?
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That's obviously a very lame bug from ASUS :/
GwynBleidd said:
Hey SC,
First, awesome job on getting this to Tf (bought the donate app awhile back for my Galaxy S, and now you're making me ha ppy with Tf).
Main feature request from my side would be mic sensitivity, this time the other way around was too sensitive on galaxys, needs pumping on tf. Also, if anything could be done to the internal mic quality on software level, would be awesome.
Thanks!
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You're welcome!
Okay I'll take a look.
I'm already experimenting with Speakers ATM, messing with registers.
It seems its possible to boost a little bit the speaker output, but really only "a little bit": +2dB
I doubt anybody will notice, but it's still better than nothing.
GwynBleidd said:
Hey SC,
On a side note, I was sure i heard an improvement with speakers after installing control app, but that might be placebo effect.
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Yup, placebo

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Note (GT-N7000) can record from radio - but in MONO! :(((

Me, like many people, was fascinated by the Galaxy Note's ability, unlike most android devices, to record live-analog FM Broadcasting out of the box and the simple clean UI.
As you can guess - I am EXTREMELY frustrated to find out the huge differance between the source and what became of it! The result is sucky, annoying .3ga file format (never seen like before) at a poor bitrate of 61Kbps and as written in title - THE OUTPUT IS MONO!
It seems like I'm the only person in the world who is bothered with this cruel factory restriction, as I searched the web for not much of a tiny mention (or maybe all of you are too shy than shouting out "the king is nude!"). The radio plays stereo and keeps playing stereo while recording. No way that it would sound worse for the 2nd time and farther! Just when Samsung finally decided to implement this feature - they screwed up big time with it and no settings to play with, at least for the average user's sight. My older Nokia N900 is able to do it out of the box, encoding of AAC format at 128Kbps bitrate and also .WAV option.
There must be a command line somwhere that states "output file = .3ga; output mode=mono" and change it to "mp3, stereo" through root access or something similar.
Please tell me some good news about a possible workaround, for I really wouldn't like to carry outside 2 bulky devices...
Somebody? please???
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions &
Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting
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Somebody? please???
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I think i was the first i notised, my Note fist day! first i got happy with recording option in FM, then ahh!! F*** you Samsung..
Is there a "record "what you hear.apk in Stereo internal" for for android. that some one have knowledge about. But i dont know how and when the Analog/Digital converter handles the Fm radio. Perhaps atacking the Samsung Ripper the only way.
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I think i was the first i notised, my Note fist day! first i got happy with recording option in FM, then ahh!! F*** you Samsung..
Is there a "record "what you hear.apk in Stereo internal" for for android. that some one have knowledge about. But i dont know how and when the Analog/Digital converter handles the Fm radio. Perhaps atacking the Samsung Ripper the only way.
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I found a 3rd party application called "Spirit FM" which works well with Note, has better interface and it records too. But don't expect too high for the same .3ga format the bitrate is way lower (be it 8kbps!!!) and still mono of course. Perhaps one can get into it's source code since it's 3rd party and adjust it or at least change the bloody output! There must be a way...

Eqfy Equalizer v1.1.3 build 24.. Best of the Best Sound Equalizer that I ever heard!

Hi,
after trying out (so) many equalizers.. apk's, this is the very best one of them all absolutely, the sound quality is superb and its much better than an "SP mod mcu", the sound note is incredibly audible and everything is on his right place, you hear every little detail of the song note coming from your car speakers, really amazing.. according to my hearing, it was an enjoyed ride listening to Jackie Brown (movie songs) 110th streets, Barry (Black) White, Tony Brixton, L. Richie and so on.. I didn't like the vaper4android much so I didn't "installed" it second time, instead of it, I used another equalizer, but this new one is oh man oh what an incredible sound quality this combination of headunit-car-speakers you gonna get from this: Eqfy Equalizer v1.1.3 build 24.apk mate.
Settings of the car headunit:
Pop & loud + reduces the boss (tastes is different indeed) gain a bit.
Settings of the Eqfy (click on 3 ... dut) equalizer:
Pop + increases the gain up to +10 or +12, (tastes is different!)
gain boost is checked/ticked,
enhanced bass is checked/ticked,
bands overlap is checked/ticked,
you do not need any custom (sp) mcu etc after you (using) listen to this new one mate.. the heard sound music sounds like a expensive hi-fi installation (like the Yamaha dsp1 which I had in the long past) and it is even much better.
I wanted to share my experiences with you guys so that you gonna enjoying listening to your lovely (old) songs on the highway.
Oh, before I forget.. google is my dear friend.. you understand me.. right?.. you're welcome mate.
Indeed, it is an awesome app, really sounds so good. Already purchased de apk. The wadzio amp do not work with deezer, but this thing do, and do it so well. Thank for the tip.
jerrymh said:
Indeed, it is an awesome app, really sounds so good. Already purchased de apk. The wadzio amp do not work with deezer, but this thing do, and do it so well. Thank for the tip.
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That cannot be correct, unless the mod is not fully installed with patched MCU, as wadzio mod is a true hardware control (of the dsp) mod.
jerrymh said:
Indeed, it is an awesome app, really sounds so good. Already purchased de apk. The wadzio amp do not work with deezer, but this thing do, and do it so well. Thank for the tip.
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Hi,
Enjoyed mate.
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Clearing things out!!..
what is Equalizer?: is the process of adjusting the balance between frequency components within an electronic signal, which boost or cut bass or treble frequencies, to adjust the timbre of individual instruments and voices by adjusting their frequency content and to fit individual instruments within the overall frequency spectrum of the mix.
what is DSP = Digital Signal Processor?:
A DSP is a specialized microprocessor (Chip) , with its architecture optimized for the operational needs of digital signal processing, by filter or compress continuous the sound signal.
if I install a mod -sp- mcu file on my headunit, do I hear (get) a dsp sound quality? Not always, because it depends on the purchased head unit, is it equipped with a dsp chip? if not, then forget it. this is a simple explanation.
now what does an PRO Made sp mcu mod file do? exactly what this Eqfy does, filter or compress or adjusting the balance continuous of the sound signal (kind of a dsp) by refining and moving (cut off) the low mid and high sound tones into the right place and then forwarding them to the car speakers. again simply explained.
Where is it in playstore? I cannot find it?
BlueChris said:
Where is it in playstore? I cannot find it?
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Hi,
Really mate? haha.. https://play.google.com/store/search?q=Eqfy+Equalizer+v1.1.3+build+24.apk&c=apps
€2,99 the first one!
Seicane-Misery said:
Hi,
Enjoyed mate.
= = = = =
Clearing things out!!..
what is Equalizer?: is the process of adjusting the balance between frequency components within an electronic signal, which boost or cut bass or treble frequencies, to adjust the timbre of individual instruments and voices by adjusting their frequency content and to fit individual instruments within the overall frequency spectrum of the mix.
what is DSP = Digital Signal Processor?:
A DSP is a specialized microprocessor (Chip) , with its architecture optimized for the operational needs of digital signal processing, by filter or compress continuous the sound signal.
if I install a mod -sp- mcu file on my headunit, do I hear (get) a dsp sound quality? Not always, because it depends on the purchased head unit, is it equipped with a dsp chip? if not, then forget it. this is a simple explanation.
now what does an PRO Made sp mcu mod file do? exactly what this Eqfy does, filter or compress or adjusting the balance continuous of the sound signal (kind of a dsp) by refining and moving (cut off) the low mid and high sound tones into the right place and then forwarding them to the car speakers. again simply explained.
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From your response, I dont think you understand. All MTCD units have hardware DSP w/EQ, read on.
The DSP in this case, is the EQ Your app is a software EQ, which applies to android only and still runs via the main EQ/Hardware EQ/DSP It wont work with the built in radio, only the hardware EQ will as is in the audio path.
If you want a free EQ, android/Software Only, Viper is probably a better and free choice.
So, DSP = Hardware EQ, controlled by software, your explanation "filter" seems to acknowledge that, but I dont think you quite understand how it works in these units. Also, the DSP in this unit does not perform compression. You also dont seem to understand that all of these MTCD units have a hardware DSP, most with 3-band parametric, some (optional module) with full 12-band EQ.
Perhaps you dont understand the differences between 12 band and parametric (3 band)? If your unit doesnt have the 12-band DSP, suggest a read of the hardware mod forum, which details how to install the 12 band as mod.
FYI, the Wadzio Mod enables the true 3 band functionality, removing the chinese 'faked' multiband EQ; the chinese faked is rubbish, hence the legacy hardware mod to enable true 3-band, and then the brilliant wadzio MOD, all done in software - no hardware mod required.
marchnz said:
From your response, I dont think you understand. All MTCD units have hardware DSP w/EQ, read on.
The DSP in this case, is the EQ Your app is a software EQ, which applies to android only and still runs via the main EQ/Hardware EQ/DSP It wont work with the built in radio, only the hardware EQ will as is in the audio path.
If you want a free EQ, android/Software Only, Viper is probably a better and free choice.
So, DSP = Hardware EQ, controlled by software, your explanation "filter" seems to acknowledge that, but I dont think you quite understand how it works in these units. Also, the DSP in this unit does not perform compression. You also dont seem to understand that all of these MTCD units have a hardware DSP, most with 3-band parametric, some (optional module) with full 12-band EQ.
Perhaps you dont understand the differences between 12 band and parametric (3 band)? If your unit doesnt have the 12-band DSP, suggest a read of the hardware mod forum, which details how to install the 12 band as mod.
FYI, the Wadzio Mod enables the true 3 band functionality, removing the chinese 'faked' multiband EQ; the chinese faked is rubbish, hence the legacy hardware mod to enable true 3-band, and then the brilliant wadzio MOD, all done in software - no hardware mod required.
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First of all, I literally don't have any sentences to respond extensively back especially to 2+1 guys from now on on this forum from the past till now and it was just an apk that works perfectly with my own headunit + sounds much better on my car speakers without any use of mod or v4a things at all, oh don't give me any advice about any free apk etc becouse I have all of the most of them and the pro's one for years.. but anyway if someone like to talk to me about reall dsp and highend hifi matters my answer will be too honest as this:
Yes as you said, man like me whose bought a:
Yamaha DSP A1
+ Yamaha MX1
+ Alr Jordan take 5 / 5pieces speakers
+ Sony CDP-XA50ES
+ kimberly cinch highend pro cables
+ kimberly highend speakers wiring..
while some guys were living by them mothers or fathers and they took them walking to the school, has absolutely no clue about dsp chips and or extremely cheap chinese headunits with the so fake called dsp that cost only a few bucks, but "I" called just for fun a dsp that's all, and.. that is also the reason that why I sometimes blame myself enormously.. becouse of such replies!
http://www.audioreview.com/product/amplification/integrated-amplifiers/yamaha/dsp-a1.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0dOT_mng68
http://www.audioreview.com/product/amplification/amplifiers/yamaha/mx-1.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6z2znF2Aq0
http://www.audioreview.com/product/digital-sources/cd-players/sony/cdp-xa50es.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfut_F6PdlY
As I say one's it doesn't matter any more who's find or make or explain about a very nice wheel but what true does matter is can you buy it???
Seicane-Misery said:
Hi,
Really mate? haha.. https://play.google.com/store/search?q=Eqfy+Equalizer+v1.1.3+build+24.apk&c=apps
€2,99 the first one!
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Oh i saw that but in description is says in specific it works with spotify thats why i asked.
marchnz said:
From your response, I dont think you understand. All MTCD units have hardware DSP w/EQ, read on.
The DSP in this case, is the EQ Your app is a software EQ, which applies to android only and still runs via the main EQ/Hardware EQ/DSP It wont work with the built in radio, only the hardware EQ will as is in the audio path.
If you want a free EQ, android/Software Only, Viper is probably a better and free choice.
So, DSP = Hardware EQ, controlled by software, your explanation "filter" seems to acknowledge that, but I dont think you quite understand how it works in these units. Also, the DSP in this unit does not perform compression. You also dont seem to understand that all of these MTCD units have a hardware DSP, most with 3-band parametric, some (optional module) with full 12-band EQ.
Perhaps you dont understand the differences between 12 band and parametric (3 band)? If your unit doesnt have the 12-band DSP, suggest a read of the hardware mod forum, which details how to install the 12 band as mod.
FYI, the Wadzio Mod enables the true 3 band functionality, removing the chinese 'faked' multiband EQ; the chinese faked is rubbish, hence the legacy hardware mod to enable true 3-band, and then the brilliant wadzio MOD, all done in software - no hardware mod required.
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Aniway this stupid MTCD units still have dose horrible cracks and pops, no mather wath EQ your use
jerrymh said:
Aniway this stupid MTCD units still have dose horrible cracks and pops, no mather wath EQ your use
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Hi,
I totally Agree with you mate, cheap thing is always wants to stay a cheap whatever you gonna try to make for or from it..
In the year 1990 I had a ford escort XR3i, I built an AA hi-fi system for almost more than 4000 (compare with €/$) into it, such as, Alpine with a remote control + Addison (later on) power amplifier + Boston speakers, and lots of things on my own without any helps from an car hifi shop, when (then) the Alpine only cost 1200 at that time!, the Addison 1700, so these chinese messes never come closely to any AA or AB class car headunits at all, but I am no longer younger than then, so such a chinese mess is a bit enough for my, I use mostly 90% the navi + listen to my old -gold- songs on the highway and to the traffic jam.. that's all.
Ps: the (entire) upgrade unit of this thing when I had a px3 (+/- 4years ago) they offered it to me for only €50 to buy it but still had opted for a newer px5 headunit at that time, so what to expected from such a chinese messes if you look at the price of its used components? indeed mate.
and the solder work of it is even worse and the bt of it or the wifi signal of it is too waek etc.. cheap is cheap mates.
@..ikerg,
Te recuperaré si tengo la oportunidad, luego te mostraré qué mierda de demora eres un mendigo.
Muy bajo nivel de hecho es que eres estupido.
Eqfy Equalizer v1.1.4.. just arrive..
Hi mates,
a newer version of: Eqfy Equalizer v1.1.4
with this Eqfy Equalizer you will hear the best sound ever from your existing car speakers, (only) in combination with an sp-mod mcu ofcourse, or similar mod, your musical songs notes will be heard from all directions in your nice car like a lovely singing birds in the early morning.. for sure.
Sp mcu mods: https://mega.nz/#F!T1FgjA7A!wc9p40bocqCiBX8XPR50ig .. take yours from there mate!
I'm absolutely very satisfied with it.. after trying so many of these fake so called Equ-loser things.
Success
Seicane-Misery said:
Hi mates,
a newer version of: Eqfy Equalizer v1.1.4
with this Eqfy Equalizer you will hear the best sound ever from your existing car speakers, (only) in combination with an sp-mod mcu ofcourse, or similar mod, your musical songs notes will be heard from all directions in your nice car like a lovely singing birds in the early morning.. for sure.
Sp mcu mods: https://mega.nz/#F!T1FgjA7A!wc9p40bocqCiBX8XPR50ig .. take yours from there mate!
I'm absolutely very satisfied with it.. after trying so many of these fake so called Equ-loser things.
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I love this! I gave it a try and it's AMAZEING!
Thank you!
So what I'm getting from this thread is that the defaults for this eq are better than most, but it does nothing that the proper eq and viper can't do better when configured properly.
Why you'd turn a true 3 band eq into a fake 10 band I don't know, software can't change the fundamentals of hardware, it's better to manipulate the 3 bands properly than have to manipulate 3 sliders for what is actually 1 band.
And before you get on a high horse about being an audiophile your contradicting yourself by purposefully degrading your ability to manipulate the equaliser. And this is coming from someone that runs Cambridge Audio and Monitor audio hardware at home, a dedicated 7.1 sound card in his computer , shure headphones and viper on my phone and a focal/alpine setup in his car....
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I'm guessing it has no effect on the sound quality coming from inbuilt apps like radio player, since it's playing directly through mcu and not through Android sound processing? Same as Viper.
Mr.R™ said:
So what I'm getting from this thread is that the defaults for this eq are better than most, but it does nothing that the proper eq and viper can't do better when configured properly.
Why you'd turn a true 3 band eq into a fake 10 band I don't know, software can't change the fundamentals of hardware, it's better to manipulate the 3 bands properly than have to manipulate 3 sliders for what is actually 1 band.
And before you get on a high horse about being an audiophile your contradicting yourself by purposefully degrading your ability to manipulate the equaliser. And this is coming from someone that runs Cambridge Audio and Monitor audio hardware at home, a dedicated 7.1 sound card in his computer , shure headphones and viper on my phone and a focal/alpine setup in his car....
Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
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Well said, quite right. The OP was well noted for contradictory and often nonsense posts.
Seicane-Misery said:
Hi mates,
a newer version of: Eqfy Equalizer v1.1.4
with this Eqfy Equalizer you will hear the best sound ever from your existing car speakers, (only) in combination with an sp-mod mcu ofcourse, or similar mod, your musical songs notes will be heard from all directions in your nice car like a lovely singing birds in the early morning.. for sure.
Sp mcu mods: https://mega.nz/#F!T1FgjA7A!wc9p40bocqCiBX8XPR50ig .. take yours from there mate!
I'm absolutely very satisfied with it.. after trying so many of these fake so called Equ-loser things.
Success
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How to make the Eqfy Equalizer to start automatically after a sleep? I tried the autostart application, and also the settings of the Eqfy Equalizer it self do nothing.
Tux2609 said:
I'm guessing it has no effect on the sound quality coming from inbuilt apps like radio player, since it's playing directly through mcu and not through Android sound processing?
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Yes, me too I think the same ... I installed and nothing work
Version 1.1.4 is working without any problems for me.
Just the auto restart is not but im auto staring the app with tasker on every boot.
jerrymh said:
Aniway this stupid MTCD units still have dose horrible cracks and pops, no mather wath EQ your use
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Buys a £200 radio that offers more functionality than every product on the market.
Complains about a little bit of borderline inaudible crackle....
Go buy a Pioneer mate, it'll sound great, cost a £500 and offer barely 20% of the functionality.
https://www.halfords.com/technology/car-audio/car-stereos/pioneer-sph-evo62dab-uni-car-stereo?cm_mmc=Google+PLA-_-Car+Audio-_-Car+Stereos-_-212902&istCompanyId=b8708c57-7a02-4cf6-b2c0-dc36b54a327e&istFeedId=62b447cf-331e-4fec-a47a-9985ff72d404&istItemId=wamwxrpix&istBid=tzwt&_$ja=tsid:94971|cid:1537736295|agid:61505028187|tid:aud-80976661069la-330869547031|crid:291898456049|nw:g|rnd:8133369828271058874|dvc:c|adp:1o5|mt:|loc:1007234&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjMfoBRDDARIsAMUjNZqE5p3oGpG0BPREsgopIfW4Q0wfpYymsJRK9L84RikkRQcSrl9AfmQaAjWBEALw_wcB
Enjoy.
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Mr.R™ said:
So what I'm getting from this thread is that the defaults for this eq are better than most, but it does nothing that the proper eq and viper can't do better when configured properly.
Why you'd turn a true 3 band eq into a fake 10 band I don't know, software can't change the fundamentals of hardware, it's better to manipulate the 3 bands properly than have to manipulate 3 sliders for what is actually 1 band.
And before you get on a high horse about being an audiophile your contradicting yourself by purposefully degrading your ability to manipulate the equaliser. And this is coming from someone that runs Cambridge Audio and Monitor audio hardware at home, a dedicated 7.1 sound card in his computer , shure headphones and viper on my phone and a focal/alpine setup in his car....
Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
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Am I right in thinking the PX5 stuff has a true 8-10 band EQ that actually controls the hardware? Mine does and the finesse controls are very good in getting an excellent output.

[App][9.0+] Wavelet: Headphone specific equalization

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Wavelet
Headphone specific equalization​
Introduction
Wavelet may be the most powerful equalizer for Android to date that doesn't require root or an unlocked bootloader. It is capable of processing audio system wide and supports optimal equalization settings for over 3300 headphones. That's way more headphones to choose from than the Sonarworks and Dirac android apps combined have to offer.
Supporting this many headphones has been made possible by Jaakko for letting me use his awesome AutoEq project.
Features
The app features a minimal UI with plenty of options for customization:
You can use AutoEq to equalize your headphones to the Harman standard. The graph visualizes the compensation applied.
There's a 9 band graphical equalizer you can use fine tune the result or set up when your headphones don't appear to be available in the database.
The effects section offers effects such as bass boost, virtualization and reverberation. There's a bass tuner option too to give your beats that little extra thump, or reduce bass if you're not a basshead.
At the bottom you can find the gain controls. There's a limiter allowing you to reduce dynamic range and a channel balance feature for when you find one channel playing too loud or if you just want to reduce the overall output volume.
Installation
Wavelet can be downloaded here from Google Play.
Features displayed vary on the mode you're using and what output device is connected.
I strongly recommend checking out the README and read up on legacy mode to help you get the best experience
XDA:DevDB Information
Wavelet, App for all devices (see above for details)
Contributors
pittvandewitt
Version Information
Status: Stable
Current Stable Version: 22.07
Stable Release Date: 2022-07-04
Created 2020-05-11
Last Updated 2022-07-05
Google Play link isn't working...
EDIT: Now it is!
s8m said:
Google Play link isn't working...
EDIT: Now it is!
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First impressions - awesome work! Nice UI and my headphones were recognized. I could only get legacy mode working but the graphical EQ is nice to have if the headphone correction isn't quite tuned for your ears. I think this is going to be a popular audio mod/app...looking forward to further development. :good:
Can you explain how this app is able to apply EQ effects without having root access or being a system app? What kind of APIs are you using? Thanks!
edit: actually, would love if we could chat more about this project. Giving this a shot right now with my Sony WH-1000XM3 headphones and it seems pretty nice. Feel free to email me at [email protected]
s8m said:
First impressions - awesome work! Nice UI and my headphones were recognized. I could only get legacy mode working but the graphical EQ is nice to have if the headphone correction isn't quite tuned for your ears. I think this is going to be a popular audio mod/app...looking forward to further development. :good:
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Thank you! I put a lot of thought in the design.
Legacy/regular mode is the best solution I could come up with to cope with the finicky audio sessions design Android has implemented. If it works or not depends on the music player you use and if your device manufacturer allows processing the global audio session or not. Sometimes both modes work and in the worst case nothing might work
MishaalRahman said:
Can you explain how this app is able to apply EQ effects without having root access or being a system app? What kind of APIs are you using? Thanks!
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The app makes use of standard libraries Android provides. Most of them are available since Android 2.3, but the DynamicsProcessing library is relatively new and allows for much more customizability. It allowed me to build the equalization and gain control features.
Default mode listens for audio sessions started by music players and applies these effects to them. Legacy mode applies them system-wide (session 0), but this may not work on all devices.
Hey man I'm downloading your app and wanted to try out the pro features. Possible to sent me a redeem code?
xhacker said:
Hey man I'm downloading your app and wanted to try out the pro features. Possible to sent me a redeem code?
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There is no mention of pro features.. according to the OP, the features available depend on device capabilities.
Here it is by what he means of pro features
s8m said:
There is no mention of pro features.. according to the OP, the features available depend on device capabilities.
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It is asking to pay and unlock remaining features.
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It is asking to pay and unlock remaining features.
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Interesting, I haven't seen that in the app myself.
Bought the app for developer support, awesome job! I was waiting to see when someone would pick up the audio development.
One less reason for root.
The only thing is clipping when adding bast boost. Bass tuning helps but volume clipping still happens.
Still awesome though.
I can confirm. my device also requires unlocking to even test the effects. I have a Galaxy A20 stock phone and quite frankly, it lacks severely with the sound quality on my headphones (Sony MDR-XB50AP/R). I have been looking for an alternative to Viper4Android which has really shown the power of the earbuds, but that requires rooting the phone and a supported ROM. I can understand the monetization of an app to help support the development and do not have an issue with that, but I gave this app a hard pass for two reasons:
1) You can't try the effects mode without paying the fee.
2) The fee for me was $5.49 to take a chance on it, yes I can get a refund on an IAP through Google, but that's not what I'd really like to do.
Why not set the app up to allow people to try the effects for say 20-30 minutes to allow them to see if it works for their needs and then charge the fee if they want to continue using it ?
pittvandewitt said:
Thank you! I put a lot of thought in the design.
Legacy/regular mode is the best solution I could come up with to cope with the finicky audio sessions design Android has implemented. If it works or not depends on the music player you use and if your device manufacturer allows processing the global audio session or not. Sometimes both modes work and in the worst case nothing might work
The app makes use of standard libraries Android provides. Most of them are available since Android 2.3, but the DynamicsProcessing library is relatively new and allows for much more customizability. It allowed me to build the equalization and gain control features.
Default mode listens for audio sessions started by music players and applies these effects to them. Legacy mode applies them system-wide (session 0), but this may not work on all devices.
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Thank you for the app. I've tried work fine with Spotify but not with PowerAmp (i've tried legacy mode with PowerAmp but not working) but as it a first version I hope this can solved in the future update.
So I guess I'll stick with Viper4Android from your release for now.
Sent from my beloved Oneplus 5T
coilbio said:
Bought the app for developer support, awesome job! I was waiting to see when someone would pick up the audio development.
One less reason for root.
The only thing is clipping when adding bast boost. Bass tuning helps but volume clipping still happens.
Still awesome though.
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Thank you!
There is a build in closed testing with a new function that reduces clipping at cost of increased latency. If I'm satisfied I'll release it publicly.
Medfordite said:
I can confirm. my device also requires unlocking to even test the effects. I have a Galaxy A20 stock phone and quite frankly, it lacks severely with the sound quality on my headphones (Sony MDR-XB50AP/R). I have been looking for an alternative to Viper4Android which has really shown the power of the earbuds, but that requires rooting the phone and a supported ROM. I can understand the monetization of an app to help support the development and do not have an issue with that, but I gave this app a hard pass for two reasons:
1) You can't try the effects mode without paying the fee.
2) The fee for me was $5.49 to take a chance on it, yes I can get a refund on an IAP through Google, but that's not what I'd really like to do.
Why not set the app up to allow people to try the effects for say 20-30 minutes to allow them to see if it works for their needs and then charge the fee if they want to continue using it ?
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Thanks for the input and the support. I will think of a way to cleanly implement a short trail. It's easier said than done
aillez said:
Thank you for the app. I've tried work fine with Spotify but not with PowerAmp (i've tried legacy mode with PowerAmp but not working) but as it a first version I hope this can solved in the future update.
So I guess I'll stick with Viper4Android from your release for now.
Sent from my beloved Oneplus 5T
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PowerAmp might work if you disable direct volume control in PA and enable legacy mode in Wavelet. The result differs depending on your phone. Else you may be able to get it to work using https://zackptg5.com/android.php#acp (requires root).
Current implementation is the best I can come up with. Android audio sessions are mess..
Works pretty well with my S9+ (Exynos) and Sony 1000XM3, I tried Spotify and Spotify Stations, for Stations the app doesn't realize that music is playing, can you do something for this or is it up to Spotify?
Working fine in legacy mode on my Pocophone, MIUI 11. I bought the pro version but i couldn't see the limiter option.
Could someone share some phone models for me to search in the autoeq list?
Very, very nice. Have it on my Pixel 3a and bought the pro key. Using my Sennheiser HD 120 and sounds fantastic. I like the Legacy mode as I use Google Podcasts most of the time and Wavelet doesn't detect it as a session but I believe this is correct. Could it detect GP so I could use the non Legacy features? Anyway, well done on a great app and slick UI.
I needed to use legacy mode with Poweramp on my Samsung note 10 plus. I have yet to test this on my pixel 4 XL but I think it'll be the same thing I'll need to enable legacy mode in order to run this app through Poweramp. Sadly I'm missing the limiter option and all the audio effect features like bass boost virtualizer and stuff like that I'd have to pay for I thought the application is free. Is there some kind of code being passed around? If not let me know
Also, are there plans to update the application in order to fix some of the notable errors or issues that have been mentioned, particularly with audio static? Beyond that this is an exciting application and I'm excited to see where it goes. I've been looking for a viper4android alternative that didn't need root and this seems to be the gym that potentially can match that app. Keep up the good work!
"Wavelet was unable to initiate Dynamics processing effects"
XT1685, Android 9 RR 7.0.2
How does Wavelet sound compared to Viper?
No AutoEQ for me

Question USB DAC problem

Hi!
Today I have been tested two version of external type-c USB DACs: first noname from Ali with dac chip, and second one of popular MIEZU DAC.
Sound is very quiet, terrible quality on both DACs.
I test it on PC (LENOVO LEGION), on Samsung M52, HONOR V20 - both DACs work fine.
Miezu has super clear sound and easy work with 250 Ohm headphones.
But with 12x... Sound super terrible...
Maybe some one knows what about it?
Did you tried to disable dolby atmos?
Enigma87 said:
Did you tried to disable dolby atmos?
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Yes, I tried all possible settings, what I found in menu (developers menu too).
Only one things little help me increase sound level - custom sound level (where you can chose your age, you can add a custom parameters).
If you are using an external dac leave all the parameters disabled. Then use the dac to apply any eq settings.
Check that both the phone and the player have all eq flat, no sound effects activated.
I'm using the xiaomi with a qudelix 5k and works flawlessly.
Enigma87 said:
Check that both the phone and the player have all eq flat, no sound effects activated.
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Hm, but with my DACs - flat level very quiet, I have to use it for increase sound level.
Strelec_pda said:
Hm, but with my DACs - flat level very quiet, I have to use it for increase sound level.
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Just raise the gain, not the frequency sliders.
What player are you using? Try poweramp or usb audio player pro. If you are using a stream platform check that audio normalization is disabled. Plus the quality is set to very high.
Xiaomi SM???? devices have large jitter caused by mi_thermald and enforced DRC (Dynamic Range Control or compression). If your device is rooted, try my magisk tools (audio-misc-settings and USB_SampleRate_Changer (including jitter-reducer.sh)) to reduce the jitter, to disable DRC, and also to make no resampling distortion.
Enigma87 said:
What player are you using? Try poweramp or usb audio player pro.
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I usually use foobar2000, PlayerPro or systemplayer...
But, I just try PowerAmp - WOW! Now the DAC work fine, like on my another devices. I don't understand what poweramp do, why another players cannot work fine, Xiaomi system player to.
Do you know any free players like PowerAmp? (GooglePlay doesn't work correctly in my country).
One good news - phone can work fine with external DAC, but second bad news - have to use special APP (like PowerAmp) and I can't use any streaming player, such spotify.
P.S. What Xiaomi do with hardware or software? Maybe you should write to the manufacturer? ))
zyhk said:
If your device is rooted
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No(
Neutron player work fine too.
Need to use Direct USB access in APP settings.
You can try neutron too, very good app one of the best imho. A bit more difficult to use, but offers a ton of customization options.
Those don't play audio if you plug a external dac, they simply send the signal so the external dac processes it. Maybe your apps play that songs and the dac simply amplifies it, rather than decoding it and amplifying it.

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