Battery and Thermals - Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Questions & Answers

Hi guys,
I noticed that battery voltages seem quite high on my device: at the moment, about 4,373mV according to accubattery and cpu-z.
I am getting this reading at 96% charge and without any charger connected.
Which battery voltage and temperature do you get on yours? Post some screenshots Many thanks!

i would be more concerned about ur SOC temps being at 96 deg C than ur battery voltage honestly..

rathian said:
i would be more concerned about ur SOC temps being at 96 deg C than ur battery voltage honestly..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly, noticed that and was wondering if it's actually true or if it's cpu-z giving a bad reading. Comparatively, what's the SOC temperature you typically get?

rathian said:
i would be more concerned about ur SOC temps being at 96 deg C than ur battery voltage honestly..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Interestingly, CPU monitor gives me a reading of 41°C on the CPU. AIDA gives 85°C on the SOC.
Can someone pls post their results here? I'm wondering if this a defective unit.

For me it's the same , way higher on Aida while on CPU monitor are always on 37-38 c even when the phone feels hotter

rathian said:
i would be more concerned about ur SOC temps being at 96 deg C than ur battery voltage honestly..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It could for some reason be displaying fahrenheit instead of clesius 96ºF is about 35ºC

Arebx said:
For me it's the same , way higher on Aida while on CPU monitor are always on 37-38 c even when the phone feels hotter
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, mate. Can you also pls post here some screen from your readings on AIDA, CPU monitor and possibly Accubattery?
What sort of battery screen-on-times are you getting?

benkadu000 said:
It could for some reason be displaying fahrenheit instead of clesius 96ºF is about 35ºC
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Guys, actually I found the answer for this in the meanwhile.
A bug makes SoC temperature to be listed with the same number as the battery percentage of the phone in a given moment.
For instance, on the attached screenshots I'm including now, you'll see that AIDA lists 85ºC on SoC when I'm interestingly at 85% battery. The same for CPU-Z, listing 83ºC there, when I'm at 83% battery.
A funny one, right?

Patoilo said:
Thanks, mate. Can you also pls post here some screen from your readings on AIDA, CPU monitor and possibly Accubattery?
What sort of battery screen-on-times are you getting?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had the same bug as you but i didn't notice
I got around 6 hours of SoT using bluetooth and 120hz and a little bit of 4g, gps from 100 to 20%, but I can't give accurate sot times since i've been charging it partially these last few days and also i cant post photos cause i'm new

And battery life? SOT please

So I just received the phone with 65% battery... Do I need to charge it first time for 8 hours?

Relax, honestly I would just use it till 20 ish and give it a good overnight charge.

Related

Nexus 5 overheating battery

hi all im just newbie who just got this devices and after intense use why my battery always overheated ? im just browse some pagesband playing games. im using a softcase. my rom is stock roited with elementalx kernel
any help will be appreciated
Sent from my Hammerhead
Define "overheating", as in the actual battery temperature. Not "it feels hot".
Lethargy said:
Define "overheating", as in the actual battery temperature. Not "it feels hot".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it is hot sir, my hands is warm after using my nexus for 15min
Mranggapo said:
it is hot sir, my hands is warm after using my nexus for 15min
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That doesn't tell us anything. Get an actual battery temperature reading, not what you think it feels like. Most kernel apps should tell you.
Lethargy said:
That doesn't tell us anything. Get an actual battery temperature reading, not what you think it feels like. Most kernel apps should tell you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what is the apps you use sir ?
Mranggapo said:
what is the apps you use sir ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't pay attention to it myself since I know it isn't overheating. Various kernel apps should give you a reading, hell even Antutu Benchmark tells you your battery temperature in Device Info.
Also, when your battery reaches 60C (or 65C, forgot which of the two), your phone will force shut itself off. Chances are, you're not even feeling much heat from the battery, the CPU usually produces more heat before the battery can even reach that high (some kernels have battery shutdown disabled anyways). The CPU starts throttling at around 60C CPU temp (NOT battery temp), and force shuts down at 105C. Clearly, "warm" is no issue at all.
Lethargy said:
I don't pay attention to it myself since I know it isn't overheating. Various kernel apps should give you a reading, hell even Antutu Benchmark tells you your battery temperature in Device Info.
Also, when your battery reaches 60C (or 65C, forgot which of the two), your phone will force shut itself off. Chances are, you're not even feeling much heat from the battery, the CPU usually produces more heat before the battery can even reach that high (some kernels have battery shutdown disabled anyways). The CPU starts throttling at around 60C CPU temp (NOT battery temp), and force shuts down at 105C. Clearly, "warm" is no issue at all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thank you for the explanation sir .

CPU Temperatures

Hi I was just wondering should I be worried, I was messing around with my phone tweaking it and installing a few mods and my CPU temperature went all the way up to 38 degrees Celsius, I'm not sure if this is normal or not? Please respond
dylanneve1 said:
Hi I was just wondering should I be worried, I was messing around with my phone tweaking it and installing a few mods and my CPU temperature went all the way up to 38 degrees Celsius, I'm not sure if this is normal or not? Please respond
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you install mod to boost performance or overclock cpu you should expect higher temperature.
however 38 c is not too high. have you tested temperature before those modifications?
specify mods you install to get better help :good:
Geeks Empire said:
if you install mod to boost performance or overclock cpu you should expect higher temperature.
however 38 c is not too high. have you tested temperature before those modifications?
specify mods you install to get better help :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was only modding the UI with substratum etc, it seems to be getting quite hot though, I'll leave it for today and if it doesn't go down I might wipe my phone
How did you read-out the CPU temperatures?
Becaus 38c CPU is really low if you do heavy use your phone.
the temperature could possibly be the battery...
use this App to check the real temperatures... and don´t be afraid.. CPU rises upt to about 75C
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cpuid.cpu_z
maik005 said:
How did you read-out the CPU temperatures?
Becaus 38c CPU is really low if you do heavy use your phone.
the temperature could possibly be the battery...
use this App to check the real temperatures... and don´t be afraid.. CPU rises upt to about 75C
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cpuid.cpu_z
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got it from the temperature reading in TWRP? Is that the CPU temperature?
No.. its the temp of the battery..
maik005 said:
No.. its the temp of the battery..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, is that quite high then?

Battery needs optimization

After 7 days of with the phone in my pocket, I think battery needs some serious optimization. Compared to my previous device Redmi note 6 pro on 4000mah had a lot better battery than Mi note 10 at 5260mah. Battery is draining like too fast. I'm on xiaomi eu btw.
I sincerely hope Xiaomi fixes this battery issue with a firmware update. A 5000+mah battery with a mid tier chipset should give phenomenal life.
I think we should get together and make some noise to get Xiaomi to address this. Tech reviewers are blaming the UI
I must agree on this. The battery life leaves a lot to be desired. Thought it would be amazing, but it's only marginally better than my old Nokia 7 Plus.. And the battery in that one is 3800mah.
Please optimize the software Xiaomi!
Yeah after rooting i did some digging. There is some kernel optimisation needed.
Example: Min freq is not set to 300mhz but to 5xx mhz. Also there is some kind of cpu boost enbled (i wasnt yet able to disable it) which is way too agressive, this also causes the min freq to get stuck at 13xx mhz. This cna only be solved by rebooting
iSonik said:
Yeah after rooting i did some digging. There is some kernel optimisation needed.
Example: Min freq is not set to 300mhz but to 5xx mhz. Also there is some kind of cpu boost enbled (i wasnt yet able to disable it) which is way too agressive, this also causes the min freq to get stuck at 13xx mhz. This cna only be solved by rebooting
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you suggest taking parameters for this? Or just wait for a Major update?
Actually I am impressed by how long the battery lasts on my Mi note 10
Using it basically no stop, with screen on 90% if the timer and using GPS, chats and emails and more, in the evening I still have not less than 40%
iSonik said:
Yeah after rooting i did some digging. There is some kernel optimisation needed.
Example: Min freq is not set to 300mhz but to 5xx mhz. Also there is some kind of cpu boost enbled (i wasnt yet able to disable it) which is way too agressive, this also causes the min freq to get stuck at 13xx mhz. This cna only be solved by rebooting
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Interesting discovery. While snooping around I found these posts talking about the Pixel 3 and OnePlus 6 that also idle at 576mhz. Both use the Snapdragon 845 though
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/snapdragon-845-processor-frequency.879301/
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/2104524?hl=en
stavrakas2007 said:
Do you suggest taking parameters for this? Or just wait for a Major update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure if i 100% understand what you mean. But i tried to change parameters with FK and the values do not really get saved.
---------- Post added at 03:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:55 PM ----------
MoneyFist said:
Interesting discovery. While snooping around I found these posts talking about the Pixel 3 and OnePlus 6 that also idle at 576mhz. Both use the Snapdragon 845 though
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/snapdragon-845-processor-frequency.879301/
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/2104524?hl=en
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah exactly. But thats not that big problem, if you watch your CPU Stats you can see your idle freq get stuck at 13xx for both clusters. Thats quite high for idling. Also did look into the released kernel source, but couldnt find the problem
Not the biggest fan of things like LKT, but in this case it works. Sets the cpu to 300mhz and gets rid of the 12xxmhz boost! if any one want to try it aswell
Your phones guys have really some problems. Mine is rooted and twrp. Updated. The rest is all stock. Yesterday I used it like crazy. Google map for about 2.5 hours, screen during the day basically always on cause I use whatsapp for work. I also spent 1 hour playing a game. In the evening I had 41% battery.
This phone have a monster battery! Amazing!
rasik80 said:
Your phones guys have really some problems. Mine is rooted and twrp. Updated. The rest is all stock. Yesterday I used it like crazy. Google map for about 2.5 hours, screen during the day basically always on cause I use whatsapp for work. I also spent 1 hour playing a game. In the evening I had 41% battery.
This phone have a monster battery! Amazing!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would like to feel the same optimism that you feel, but until now, I cannot. I got my phone 2 days ago, 2 full charges, one gave me 8h of SOT and the other 7h of SOT. There is something wrong here. I had more battery life with the Pocophone I had than with Mi note 10. Let's see if in a future update it gets better
rasik80 said:
Your phones guys have really some problems. Mine is rooted and twrp. Updated. The rest is all stock. Yesterday I used it like crazy. Google map for about 2.5 hours, screen during the day basically always on cause I use whatsapp for work. I also spent 1 hour playing a game. In the evening I had 41% battery.
This phone have a monster battery! Amazing!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I mean yes it has good battery life and i can get easily 2 days. But its a 5xxx mah battery. It can last longer. Its like upgraing from 1liter to 2liters but only using 1.5 Liters.
Its Never a 5xxx Battery
A real live measure says its a 4000mah Battery. So imho its a Selling Trick from Xiaomi
labbersagg said:
A real live measure says its a 4000mah Battery. So imho its a Selling Trick from Xiaomi
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What???? Are you kidding? It has really 4000?
labbersagg said:
A real live measure says its a 4000mah Battery. So imho its a Selling Trick from Xiaomi
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If that's true: it aint just a selling trick but a crime!
Can you proove your statement here? Would be interesting for everyone I guess
RicardoCaeiro said:
What???? Are you kidding? It has really 4000?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thinking about it, 4000mah sounds right. The Oppo Reno2 has a 4000mah battery, uses the same 730G chipset and has about the same screen size.
The GSMarena endurance test gave the Oppo Reno2 a 102hr endurance rating.
The Mi Note 10 scored 95hrs endurance rating.
I think we've been duped here
See here, scroll to the bottom;
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9936&idPhone2=9798
I've installed AccuBattery to monitor drain and give a mAh rating estimate
labbersagg said:
A real live measure says its a 4000mah Battery. So imho its a Selling Trick from Xiaomi
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
data ?, or it doesnt happen.
Forgot to mention there is a crazy battery drain at night for no reason like 10% down (Flight mode on, only alarm set on) .
iSonik said:
Yeah after rooting i did some digging. There is some kernel optimisation needed.
Example: Min freq is not set to 300mhz but to 5xx mhz. Also there is some kind of cpu boost enbled (i wasnt yet able to disable it) which is way too agressive, this also causes the min freq to get stuck at 13xx mhz. This cna only be solved by rebooting
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes. any xiaomi device It has that. The only option is the force setting set min. 300mhz on APK like ex Kernel menager. And turning off boost Touch
Check mi room or miuimix rom based on China dev. I use mi Rom on cc9 and k20 pro. The battery is much better than xiaomi.eu
labbersagg said:
A real live measure says its a 4000mah Battery. So imho its a Selling Trick from Xiaomi
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not true! measured around 5000 for me. Dont be a fear mongerer

Question Rog 3 Temperature

Hi, I want to buy the Rog 5 but I've heard that it has high temperatures even from light use (like when using YouTube it reaches 40degrees celcius). How are the overall thermals? I'm not talking about throttling I'm talking about general temperature when using the phone for light tasks. Any info would be highly appreciated. Also any info on battery life would be great too
From what I have heard from Youtube and reddit, It is a hot phone because it keeps internals in a good temperature, plus they achieved better temperature after update.
Oxydrix said:
From what I have heard from Youtube and reddit, It is a hot phone because it keeps internals in a good temperature, plus they achieved better temperature after update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But having a warm phone isn't a good sign is it? I'm currently using a huawei p40 pro plus and it's super cool (probably because of the ceramic body). You mentioned an update, so is the rog 5 cooler after the update? On YouTube Technick ran a battery drain test and the Rog 5's peak temp was almost 60 degrees celcius
Thanos88 said:
But having a warm phone isn't a good sign is it? I'm currently using a huawei p40 pro plus and it's super cool (probably because of the ceramic body). You mentioned an update, so is the rog 5 cooler after the update? On YouTube Technick ran a battery drain test and the Rog 5's peak temp was almost 60 degrees celcius
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know about the reliability of this man, but look here
Oxydrix said:
I don't know about the reliability of this man, but look here
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks man. This really helped.
I got it a few days back, I can share some impressions. Yes, it's a hot phone. Yes CPU temp gets up to about 40 degrees sometimes when browsing or multitasking. Gaming also gets it to about 45 - 50 on CODM and Dead Cells and between 55 and upwards of 60 with Genshin Impact. A Peltier effect cooler like the FunCooler from black shark brings this down about 10 degrees. This temperature is mostly felt at the center of the display, while the sides on the back, where the batteries are, remain noticeably cooler. Perhaps their goal was to dissipate het through the display, idk.
I haven't been able to notice any drop in performance yet, even with the thermal limit set to low. What I don't know is how this affects the chip long term, but I hope it doesn't degrade for at least about 5 years. Either way I'm sticking with a cooler for Genshin impact just to make sure the device lasts longer.
cotov said:
I got it a few days back, I can share some impressions. Yes, it's a hot phone. Yes CPU temp gets up to about 40 degrees sometimes when browsing or multitasking. Gaming also gets it to about 45 - 50 on CODM and Dead Cells and between 55 and upwards of 60 with Genshin Impact. A Peltier effect cooler like the FunCooler from black shark brings this down about 10 degrees. This temperature is mostly felt at the center of the display, while the sides on the back, where the batteries are, remain noticeably cooler. Perhaps their goal was to dissipate het through the display, idk.
I haven't been able to notice any drop in performance yet, even with the thermal limit set to low. What I don't know is how this affects the chip long term, but I hope it doesn't degrade for at least about 5 years. Either way I'm sticking with a cooler for Genshin impact just to make sure the device lasts longer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the reply. 40 degrees from just web browsing is ridiculous. Rather dangerously high and will definitely degrade batteries. Think I'll give the rog 5 a miss
Thanos88 said:
Thanks for the reply. 40 degrees from just web browsing is ridiculous. Rather dangerously high and will definitely degrade batteries. Think I'll give the rog 5 a miss
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
40 is the CPU reading I get. Batteries stay about 5 degrees below the CPU for normal use generally according to my observations, just to make that clear. Not sure which battery temp it's actually reading though, since there are 2 batteries.
Thanos88 said:
Спасибо за ответ. 40 градусов от простого просмотра веб - страниц-это просто смешно.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
120/144 Hz need more power
cotov said:
40 is the CPU reading I get. Batteries stay about 5 degrees below the CPU for normal use generally according to my observations, just to make that clear. Not sure which battery temp it's actually reading though, since there are 2 batteries
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
cotov said:
40 is the CPU reading I get. Batteries stay about 5 degrees below the CPU for normal use generally according to my observations, just to make that clear. Not sure which battery temp it's actually reading though, since there are 2 batteries.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
40 is still too high though for normal usage. I've never heard of a phone go that warm. My huawei sits at 22 maximum.
Phone arrived 2 days ago, in my experience It Is not that hot, while browsing / YouTube / Instagram It Is cool (about 31/32 °c) and my ambient temperature Is around 20 °. I have played 1 hour call of duty and It reached 37 ° on the cpu, while the phone was hotter, especially in the middle. I think this Is how It works, getting hot outside to be colder inside. Also I updated to firmware 2102.81 which helped a lot.
Oxydrix said:
Phone arrived 2 days ago, in my experience It Is not that hot, while browsing / YouTube / Instagram It Is cool (about 21/22 °c) and my ambient temperature Is around 20 °. I have played 1 hour call of duty and It reached 37 ° on the cpu, while the phone was hotter, especially in the middle. I think this Is how It works, getting hot outside to be colder inside. Also I updated to firmware 2102.81 which helped a lot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for this!! I'll probably buy one now

Lenovo legion Y90 battery high Voltage issue!

Hi guys, I have got the Lenovo legion Y90 phone a few days ago and while checking the battery's condition though the Accubattery app, I have noticed that the battery voltage is very high ranging from 7.8V to above 8.2V when it's fully charged. As far as I know the normal voltage for the phone's lithium ion battery should range from 3.9V to 4.2V when fully charged and it could be very harmful to the battery life if it goes higher than that but what I got is actually double the normal voltage. The phone has got dual batteries but I have never had this high voltage reading with any other dual battery phones that I have had before this one. Can anyone advise on that please? Thanks
i have the same issue im not sure what to do on k50 gamig
SAaied said:
i have the same issue im not sure what to do on k50 gamig
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does the k50 gaming edition have dual batteries too? Now I am starting to believe that this is an issue with the Accubattery software itself when dealing with dual batteries. I think it might be reading each of the batteries alone and summing-up the 2 voltages like doubling it! Because the phone usually doesn't get hot even with the high voltage reading
Dr Amro Elbehidi said:
Does the k50 gaming edition have dual batteries too? Now I am starting to believe that this is an issue with the Accubattery software itself when dealing with dual batteries. I think it might be reading each of the batteries alone and summing-up the 2 voltages like doubling it! Because the phone usually doesn't get hot even with the high voltage reading
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think so coz i have one plus 8t and the voltage is fine
Anyways i returned the phone coz it was also getting hot
Dr Amro Elbehidi said:
Does the k50 gaming edition have dual batteries too? Now I am starting to believe that this is an issue with the Accubattery software itself when dealing with dual batteries. I think it might be reading each of the batteries alone and summing-up the 2 voltages like doubling it! Because the phone usually doesn't get hot even with the high voltage reading
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
SAaied said:
I don't think so coz i have one plus 8t and the voltage is fine
Anyways i returned the phone coz it was also getting hot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe its a failure with the phone if its getting too hot, about having the double Volts is expected as these phones are game made and need hgh voltage to avoid increase the amp(which leads to high temeperature). so yes the divided battery is expected to delivery more voltage, but this is not risk, its just planned to be so.

Categories

Resources