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Hi all.
This looks like a great community and I wanted to look for your advice.
I'm a longtime iPhone user looking for a way into Android.
I wanted a cost effective, smallish, good battery, dual sim of decent quality. The 4C looks like a good choice.
I want to know how difficult it would be to flash it to run native android the same way the Nexus phones do. I don't want all the bloatware, and since I'm buying online I want a clean install. (No malware)
Is there anything you like about MIUI that I should consider keeping it?
What results should I expect? Will everything work? No dead camera or weird glitches?
Can I do the flash on my Mac?
Any recommendations on where to source my tools?
Sorry for such a basic Q, but I haven't seen it asked in this detail.
I'd like to know what I'm getting into, but definitely want to get off iOS. It's been good but I don't want to carry two phones anymore.
brndnryn said:
Hi all.
This looks like a great community and I wanted to look for your advice.
I'm a longtime iPhone user looking for a way into Android.
I wanted a cost effective, smallish, good battery, dual sim of decent quality. The 4C looks like a good choice.
I want to know how difficult it would be to flash it to run native android the same way the Nexus phones do. I don't want all the bloatware, and since I'm buying online I want a clean install. (No malware)
Is there anything you like about MIUI that I should consider keeping it?
What results should I expect? Will everything work? No dead camera or weird glitches?
Can I do the flash on my Mac?
Any recommendations on where to source my tools?
Sorry for such a basic Q, but I haven't seen it asked in this detail.
I'd like to know what I'm getting into, but definitely want to get off iOS. It's been good but I don't want to carry two phones anymore.
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The Xioami MI 4c seems like a good fit for you. My iPhone-centric friend said that my phone (the Mi4c) is the Android phone he hates the least
It is very easy to flash an AOSP based ROM (what you called "Native Android") such as CyanogenMod 13 on the Mi 4c. However, it might not be necessary as there are good debloated ROMs available based on MIUI and MIUI has a lot of nice unique features. There are instructions on how to do this on each thread, but message me if you have problems.
MIUI (and ROMs based on it) has far superior camera quality than anything else available for this phone. It also has a lot of manual features (manual focus, exposure, sharpening, saturation, focus tacking, numerous filters), though its long exposure is limited to 2 seconds and focus bracketing can't be manually adjusted. However, audio performance out of the auxiliary port is much better in AOSP based ROMs (MIUI has some audio processing that messes up the audio). Keep in mind that in general the phone feels more snappy on AOSP based ROMs, but in both cases there are very little to complain about.
My recommendation is that you try the MIUI ROM from this site (it is clean, debloated, and properly translated) for a week:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-9-8-9.34062/
then switch to CM13 (the nexus-fy version on this site) and decide for yourself which you like better.
I didn't find any bugs in these ROMs, but you'll have to read the respective threads to see if there are problems and if they have been fixed (and how to fix them if it isn't already). Luckily it's very easy to switch ROMs if you encounter problems.
All the tools necessary can be found on this site, but you might need to install "Flashify" from the play store in order to get a custom recovery on your phone if the conventional methods fail (ADB tools).
Things to keep in mind:
- The back cover is nice to touch but scratches easily, so either get a cover or keep in mind you can replace it if you have to.
- The front glass may be vulnerable (no official protected glass is disclaimed), get a tempered glass screen protector.
- The volume and power buttons are plastic
- Battery life is decent but not great (about a days usage, 5h screen on time)
- Camera is great in medium to good light, average in low light - feel free to ask samples
- Audio is great out of the port, and good from the speaker
- Display has stellar contrast, good colour, average brightness and is a bit difficult to read under direct sunlight
- Performance is generally good (there are some hiccups), but by far the best for the price
- The 16GB model is half the price of the 32GB model($110 vs $220 ), check Kimovil to get the best deal (I've used Geekbuying reliably through the years)
- Build quality is good otherwise (barring the above issues). I've used this phone brutally without a cover and it never gave me any problems.
- If size doesn't bother you too much, the Redmi Note 3 Pro is a great alternative. It costs $150, has better performance, awesome battery life, 3GB RAM, 32GB storage and a micro-SD slots. Its cons are you lose out on the camera and audio quality, and the display's contrast isn't as good (1000:1 vs 1600:1). It also gets lots more love from Xda and already have an Android 7.0 Nougat ROM.
Probably the wrong time to buy mi4c as there are better budget phones such as the Lenovo Zuk Z2, great specs for the price. Rom development is another matter though
I got the Mi4s and I'm quite impressed of it. as Mi4s and mi4c is basically the same phone (without fingerprint, mi4s case is in higher quality) I'd recommend you the smiui rom, there you can choose what bloatware/mods you want/don't want and with viper4android the sound is very nice (like on a computer or even better). Also the camera is like in original miui (for me). I get about 1.5 days of normal usage (network always on, 2 sims, whatsapp, y music, telegram, browser, google books...) with smiui rom.
Hi XDA guys!
Everybody knows that Mi series goal is to be better than Redmi at least in specs and performance.
But how about performance to price ratio, how about all other things that You dont worry and dont expect in REDMI casue it's cheap but You do expect it in the MI series?
What are the problems/things that You don't like in MI series?
What are the problems/things that You don't like in REDMI series if there is any? WHY? Cause we all know not to expect wonders for a low budget priced phones.
I've talked to many people who had/have REDMI and MI series Xiaomi phones (clients, selllers, internet folks, friends) and they only agree on ONE thing -the price is great wheter it is REMI or MI phone.
A strange thing happens.... REDMI owners are always satisfied. The only thing that bothers not all of them is the camera quality.
But in low and middle price segment REDMI beats EVERY other BRAND.
Xiaomi has also great prices in the high end flagship models but here MANY PEOPLE are dissapointed.
For example camera quality, screen quiality, body, bezel, bugs, no NFC, no european B20 LTE band.
The MI users also tell me that non of the above bothers them but something totaly different. EACH person = an original problem with MI device.
Can You please tell me what are Your problems/dislikes with MI and REDMI devices cause I'm about to buy one from each segment?
What should I worry about (Android updates maybe?) buying a REDMI and a MI phone IN YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIANCE?
Don't get me wrong. I never had a MI phone but in shops they perform GREAT so I wonder what's the fuss is about?
You Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S is running good, Internal version with all bands, I bought it in Xiaomi shop in France so it's normal to get everything good.
The problems that I noticed are a performances issues on benchmarks and the back glass is very fragile, I have scratches even with the case.
I have big hopes with Android P.
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You Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S is running good, Internal version with all bands, I bought it in Xiaomi shop in France so it's normal to get everything good.
The problems that I noticed are a performances issues on benchmarks and the back glass is very fragile, I have scratches even with the case.
I have big hopes with Android P.
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Thanks for reply dude, I have some questions though:
1. What exactly did You notice on benchmarks? Performance issues shouldn't exist. It's the fastest CPU (SD 845).
2.Why do You have big hopes with Android P. Is Oreo making problems and what kind?
3. It would seem like in flagship models the manufactuers put very delicate screens probably to earn more cash on repair. I have the same problem on Samsung Galaxy S8. A slightly nail can scratch the surface and still they say it's gorilla glass. That unacceptable.
On Redmi Note 4 (cheap Xiaomi phone) I have such a hard screen that I don't need any kind of protection....
My mi mix 2s issue is just about ghosting screen and laggy video recording, other than that is perfect.
So many issues. Mostly software which has too many bugs to list. Text selection is buggy. Text input is laggy because of full screen gestures. Often no way to switch apps during calls. MIUI is a disaster. Our Mi A2 running Android One is a significant step up.
In terms of hardware, the Mix 2s is ok. The screen is the main problem. It is not very bright outside compared to my old pixel. Also it scratches very easily. I've never had a scratch on a phone screen in over 10 years, but I already have 2 on this handset after a few weeks and I don't have a clue how as I don't keep anything else in the same pocket. It says it is gorilla glass but I don't believe it - I think it is made out of cheese
I've noticed performance drops on benchmarks too. First Antutu score was 270k, the last one i did after factory was 209k....
Phone gets hot real quick, idle cpu temperature is around 39C.
My camera lens started to peel... after a week
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Thanks for reply dude, I have some questions though:
1. What exactly did You notice on benchmarks? Performance issues shouldn't exist. It's the fastest CPU (SD 845).
2.Why do You have big hopes with Android P. Is Oreo making problems and what kind?
3. It would seem like in flagship models the manufactuers put very delicate screens probably to earn more cash on repair. I have the same problem on Samsung Galaxy S8. A slightly nail can scratch the surface and still they say it's gorilla glass. That unacceptable.
On Redmi Note 4 (cheap Xiaomi phone) I have such a hard screen that I don't need any kind of protection....
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1 - Low scores for a S845 (less than 200k on AnTuTu, 3400 on 3dmark slingshot extreme, 1900-7000 on Geekbench)
2 - Xiaomi announced big buffs for camera and performances with their Android P builds.
3 - I'm just talking about scratches, because the back is ceramic and shouldn't be scrashed so easily under a case (the provided one).
That scratching is simply a way to tell Your subconcius to buy another flagship from Xiaomi cause the current one will be too scrached.
Are You sure that the long awaited Mi Mix 2s has a long list of bugs?
Xiaomi did overtime to put this phone on the market with flawless opinion.
What else I can expect from Mi Mix 2s and do You think that these bugs won't exist in the newly lanuched Mi8?
BTW It's a shame, Xiaomi was well on their way to beat even Samsung with performance to price ratio but they suddenly asked too much cash for their top phones.
If they would keep up what has been done in the low budget phones we could have a worldwide revolution resouting in ALL brands lowering their price for even flagship phones.
It was so close... We all would benefit from it. For example a Samsung S9+ instead of 1000 $ would cost 600 USD.
Xiaomi did us no favor and got all of a sudden a big time player alhought their flagships are yet far from being great.
Who cares?I am using this phone, not someone else.I like it, this is the most important thing.
1 - My Mix 2S never freezes. Never.
2 - I'm not facing any issue with video recording (4k).
3 - I don't give a **** for performing Antutu tests. I just look at its scores before buying.
4 - I'm with Mix 2S about 20 days and there's no lens peeling or scratches. I am careful with it. I can sell it right now as a new.
Adriano-A3 said:
1 - My Mix 2S never freezes. Never.
2 - I'm not facing any issue with video recording (4k).
3 - I don't give a **** for performing Antutu tests. I just look at its scores before buying.
4 - I'm with Mix 2S about 20 days and there's no lens peeling or scratches. I am careful with it. I can sell it right now as a new.
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2 - Just check in camera settings 60 fps isn't available.
3 - ok, but the Snapdragon 845 was a major spec for this device and the phone perform like a S835 one.
4 - You're lucky for the scraches, I don't know how the mine have been scrached under a case, but I have no lens peeling neither.
I've had mine for 3 months now, and it's perfect for me, especially for the price.
No scratches, no peel lenses, and I don't notice any ghosting. In fact, my only gripe is that the MIUI notification pull down with the brightness slider needs you to touch where the slider is before you can move it. My previous phone (ZUK Z2 Pro) let you tap anywhere on the slider bar and it would move to where your finger is. So quickly upping to full brightness in sunlight on my Mix 2S is trickier as I need to see where the slider is.
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2 - Just check in camera settings 60 fps isn't available.
3 - ok, but the Snapdragon 845 was a major spec for this device and the phone perform like a S835 one.
4 - You're lucky for the scraches, I don't know how the mine have been scrached under a case, but I have no lens peeling neither.
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2 - You are right. Is Xiaomi crazy?
3 - As I told for a friend early: I didn't notice any difference while using Mix 2 and Mix 2S. I'm not on gaming. I just want a never-lag device, iykwim.
4 - I'm with my device 24 hours per day. I know where it is everytime.
I have the global model 128gb version and as soon as it was set up I was disappointed with MIUI.
Never had a Xiaomi device before but the rom sucks and has so many bugs in it it's really annoying.
Fortunately some people here are developing custom ROMs and I'm on pixel experience gsi right now which works flawlessly. It's like having a Pixel for half the price. Of course there is some work left for the Devs regarding some little features like auto brightness and camera apps but I'm use a Gcam port and it's fine for me.
It's not the device IMO its the software that kills it. They have good prices but the bootloader unlocking process is really annoying and their software suite like the MiFlash tool is really crappy.
I tried flashing the Android P Beta from Xiaomi and almost bricked my phone because they just forgot to include some batch files in the original download. I was lucky because some guy here provided all the needed files and I got the device running but this must not happen to a company that wants to be a global player.
Just my 2 cents...
I use the provided case and have no scratches, lens peels whatsoever but the case start to break on the lower right corner after just 2 months and taking it off only 3 times. But it was free so I'm okay with that.
kleinholzinferno said:
I have the global model 128gb version and as soon as it was set up I was disappointed with MIUI.
Never had a Xiaomi device before but the rom sucks and has so many bugs in it it's really annoying.
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Well, this is your respectable opinion but I really don't understand why people spend 500 USD/EUR being totally unconscious of the products they are buying.
MIUI OS has been developed for many years and it always had the same peculiarities: extremely visually accurate, feature-rich, buggy, childish.
MIUI is something you just love or hate. But it has been so for years: people should know in advance when they buy normal Xiaomi devices (I mean, other than A1 or A2).
It is very surprising that buyers complain of something everibody knows.
I also own a Samsung S7 Edge, which is "boring": never had a single issue in two years.
When I bought the Mi Mix 2S I was perfectly aware that I was buying a totally different phone, with an OS which apparently is always in beta stage.
But, you know, my Xiaomi is just fun!
guildamx said:
Well, this is your respectable opinion but I really don't understand why people spend 500 USD/EUR being totally unconscious of the products they are buying.
MIUI OS has been developed for many years and it always had the same peculiarities: extremely visually accurate, feature-rich, buggy, childish.
MIUI is something you just love or hate. But it has been so for years: people should know in advance when they buy normal Xiaomi devices (I mean, other than A1 or A2).
It is very surprising that buyers complain of something everibody knows.
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The problem is that reviews never talk about the bugs or missing features. And the ROM flashing community makes it sound easy to just swap to an AOSP ROM, without mentioning that AOSP ROMs take a very long time to develop and lose features like camera quality etc.
Personally I expected MIUI to be a bit annoying. I used it 6 years ago and it was not great but I had expected it to have improved. I was wrong. It is the worst experience I've had on a phone out of the box. I can't believe companies manage to sell consumer devices this bad. Xiaomi puts a tonne of effort into a ROM that has fewer features and worse usability than stock Android. Why invest so much energy into making something worse?
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The problem is that reviews never talk about the bugs or missing features. And the ROM flashing community makes it sound easy to just swap to an AOSP ROM, without mentioning that AOSP ROMs take a very long time to develop and lose features like camera quality etc.
Personally I expected MIUI to be a bit annoying. I used it 6 years ago and it was not great but I had expected it to have improved. I was wrong. It is the worst experience I've had on a phone out of the box. I can't believe companies manage to sell consumer devices this bad. Xiaomi puts a tonne of effort into a ROM that has fewer features and worse usability than stock Android. Why invest so much energy into making something worse?
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I had both stock and miui , emui , etc...
I had Nokia 8 , Lg G6 , Honor 8 huawei p9 , p10 plus, xiaomi mi mix 2s , samsung s5
And i dont understand why do you say that miui has less features ... It has theme engine (no root) ,gestures, optimized battery saving , screen temprature
It seems you dont know what you are talking about , i found that the phone with less features was nokia 8 (stock) . The only thing good was the fastest updates but i had no control about nothing
guildamx said:
Well, this is your respectable opinion but I really don't understand why people spend 500 USD/EUR being totally unconscious of the products they are buying.
MIUI OS has been developed for many years and it always had the same peculiarities: extremely visually accurate, feature-rich, buggy, childish.
MIUI is something you just love or hate. But it has been so for years: people should know in advance when they buy normal Xiaomi devices (I mean, other than A1 or A2).
It is very surprising that buyers complain of something everibody knows.
I also own a Samsung S7 Edge, which is "boring": never had a single issue in two years.
When I bought the Mi Mix 2S I was perfectly aware that I was buying a totally different phone, with an OS which apparently is always in beta stage.
But, you know, my Xiaomi is just fun!
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Just to clarify some things:
Before buying a product at that price range I'm thoroughly investigating the product. So I was not "totally unconscious" as you call it.
I was aware of the OS and the differences from stock android. But if you can't get your hands on a device before buying it you have to trust reviews and hands on videos. And almost all of them didn't mention the problems I encountered.
As posted before you're getting lied to or bugs and errors are just sugarcoated and no one tells the truth.
I have no problem flashing phones and always did and I'm glad there are alternatives for this piece of crap MIUI. You say it's developed for years? Maybe, but for this amount of time invested into an OS we could expect a better performance and stable ROMs without all the bugs.
Have you ever read the official MIUI forum? Besides the point whor**g there it's full of bugs and problems and none of the Xiaomi devs gives a flying f*ck about the people reporting them.
I'm happy with the pixel experience rom by now. Never going back again.
End of rant.
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DMart9406 said:
It has theme engine (no root) ,gestures, optimized battery saving , screen temprature
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Yeah themes are the most important feature... especially when you have to set your location to India to get it to work.
You know, that's one of the things that makes me mad. It's not only about pushing as many features into a rom as possible. They should work properly to be a benefit. Not working features are a no-go.
And all of the things you mention are not MIUI specific. They try to copy all the good stuff from other manufacturers, but fail permanently.
Battery life was catastrophic with MIUI. With the Pixel Experience rom I get twice the SOT. And that's with a not device customized GSI...let that sink in.
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Again, that is your point of view. I am not saying you are lying, just that your opinion is highly subjective.
1) MIUI forum is full of children writing "cool" and "great". Nothing comparable with XDA. But is has been so since the beginning. Every experienced android user knows (and keeps far away). Why complain now?
2) As I wrote above, I also own a Samsung S7 Edge, whose OS is rock-solid. Still I cannot complain about the lack of feature in MIUI. For example I have many routines in my ordinary day; with the S7 I used Tasker for scheduling vibration mode, wifi on/off, connection and so on; MIUI has this feature and works great, without additional apps (and root!). Same for taking screen captures: no need to edit build.prob, as MIUI has a simple gesture for that. I agree that MIUI may have some bugs, but definitely the issue is not the lack of features.
3) Battery life was "catastrophic" just in your configuration. In my configuration battery drain is comparable with S7, i.e. very good.
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Again, that is your point of view. I am not saying you are lying, just that your opinion is highly subjective.
1) MIUI forum is full of children writing "cool" and "great". Nothing comparable with XDA. But is has been so since the beginning. Every experienced android user knows (and keeps far away). Why complain now?
2) As I wrote above, I also own a Samsung S7 Edge, whose OS is rock-solid. Still I cannot complain about the lack of feature in MIUI. For example I have many routines in my ordinary day; with the S7 I used Tasker for scheduling vibration mode, wifi on/off, connection and so on; MIUI has this feature and works great, without additional apps (and root!). Same for taking screen captures: no need to edit build.prob, as MIUI has a simple gesture for that. I agree that MIUI may have some bugs, but definitely the issue is not the lack of features.
3) Battery life was "catastrophic" just in your configuration. In my configuration battery drain is comparable with S7, i.e. very good.
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Of course my opinion is subjective...as all opinions are. I just pointed out what bothers me about the forum, the device and the software.
I've seen and used much better android ROMs and MIUI is just not for me. So I switched the rom asap.
I also used Samsung's UI on my brand new tablet with at the time some of the best hardware you could get. And guess what it lagged awfully. So I dumped the Samsung firmware, installed lineage and it's snappy and responsive. No comparison.
But everybody likes and uses or needs other features, as you mentioned and that's perfectly fine. That's the great advantage of a free system like android.
I just don't need the "features" of MIUI to me it's overloaded.
Regarding the forum you're right. It's like playing COD with a bunch of 14 year olds on steroids.
I hope this is the correct forum for this type of discussion. If not, mods please move it to a more appropriate location.
What confuses is me is that there seems to be so little interest in this phone with both average consumers and tech enthusiasts. I'm curious you guys think that is?
Because it seems to me there are a lot of reasons why there should be. I'd like to lay them out. I'm by no means a Xiaomi/Poco fanboy, but I feel these are more of less objective points.
I paid €300 for my Pocophone F1 shipped from within EU, about a month after launch, and €350 for my Poco F2 pro about 2,5 months after launch. Taking into account inflation, the fact that the price might come down even more and the fact that you’re getting an objectively better hardware package, I’d say the F2 Pro is at least as good a deal (if not better) as the F1. And the F1 had a huge hype/interest surrounding it. It was basically the new One plus, as far as people were concerned.
What do I mean by better hardware package? Not taking into account the better chipset (which as far as I’m concerned is more a function of which smartphone generation we happen to be at) it’s the 4700 vs 4000 mah battery (I’m getting about 30-40% more battery life), the better screen (max brightness is quite a bit higher, as is color accuracy.. and it’s amoled), the much improved camera setup (including ‘nice to haves’ such as a macro camera), the housing which looks way more premium (even though all glass has downsides as well.. but the F1 back coating is pitting/scratching like crazy). And then there’s stuff that’s just plain cool, like the sliding selfie cam, the in screen fingerprint reader, IR blaster etc. Not to mention some weird omissions the Poco F1 had, such as no nfc.
I’d say getting this phone is kind of a no brainer, whether it’s for the tech enthusiast or the budget constrained android user who still wants the latest and greatest. Miui (though it has it quirks) is also getting to the point where it can compete with the other android skins out there.
So why is there so little interest?
I think because Xiaomi did not release the phone in India officially
For people into photography the Mi 10 range has better appeal. These handsets have much better cameras with OIS and 108MP or Omnivision lenses.
Here its due to Xiaomi not releasing full kernel source meaning that developers have a really hard time creating alternative ROMs.
In the "real" world, are sales bad? I dont know.
I wonder if there is any chance of getting custom roms for this device. I'm considering purchasing it but the lack of custom roms if putting me off. I'm curretly using a oneplus 6 and the poco f2 pro feeld like a nice and cheap upgrade.
I would like to add another imho huge pro-point for this (and other Xiaomi devices): unlocking the bootloader and rooting does NOT void the warranty!
(at least it's true for Singapore where Xiaomi confirmed this via email).
I am not aware of any other company (Samsung, Huawei, Realme ....) which allows this
magogo said:
I wonder if there is any chance of getting custom roms for this device. I'm considering purchasing it but the lack of custom roms if putting me off. I'm curretly using a oneplus 6 and the poco f2 pro feeld like a nice and cheap upgrade.
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Xiaomi.eu is a kind a custom rom. Apart of that its true, not much other options available...
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Xiaomi.eu is a kind a custom rom. Apart of that its true, not much other options available...
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It's not, it's the OEM ROM with a few mods on top, nothing special.
grt67DFqyu said:
It's not, it's the OEM ROM with a few mods on top, nothing special.
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I think you are wrong sorry. OEM means "original equipment manufacturer" normally the manufacturers provide OEM firmware\rom. As you said its modified "with a few mods on top" and its not by the manufacturer, then its a custom firmware. I fully understand what xiaomi.eu does and I know they use the official Chinese firmware but it is still modified.
no call recording on F2 pro. So bye bye Xiaomi.
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It's not, it's the OEM ROM with a few mods on top, nothing special.
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Technically, Xiaomi.eu ROM is a custom ROM.
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I think you are wrong sorry. OEM means "original equipment manufacturer" normally the manufacturers provide OEM firmware\rom.
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I know what OEM means Hence the phrase "OEM with a few mods on top". I just think it's not enough to call it a proper custom ROM.
As long as xiaomi.eu maintains this device, I absolutely love it
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As long as xiaomi.eu maintains this device, I absolutely love it
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Me too. I've been an AOSP guy ever since but TBH, I'm not complaining with MIUI this time, especially with Xiaomi.eu ROM. Plus, Magisk and EdXposed are perfectly working on it so I'm satisfied so far.
Poliarinis_eziukas said:
no call recording on F2 pro. So bye bye Xiaomi.
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Google announced Phone apk beta with call recording option (on some global versions of RN8 Pro is alread available)... So very soon will be on all xiaomi devices
popoyaya said:
For people into photography the Mi 10 range has better appeal. These handsets have much better cameras with OIS and 108MP or Omnivision lenses.
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We have OIS, and the IMX686 is no slouch either. Gcam still has a ton to get out of that sensor. For context, the Pixel's sensor has barely changed for the last 3 and a half years, and they still made massive quality improvements.
What is the advantage of Omnivision lenses ? Don't they make sensors ? The general rule is that Sony sensors are better, isn’t it ?
Poliarinis_eziukas said:
no call recording on F2 pro. So bye bye Xiaomi.
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Unlock and flash xiaomi.eu it's has that feature by default...
Wysłane z mojego POCO F2 Pro przy użyciu Tapatalka
jmase said:
Here its due to Xiaomi not releasing full kernel source meaning that developers have a really hard time creating alternative ROMs.
In the "real" world, are sales bad? I dont know.
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We all need to keep asking for the full device tree and kernel source etc. on Facebook and Twitter. I've tweeted POCO and Xiaomi this week whilst I wait for my new F2 Pro.
Sent from my Mi A1 using Tapatalk
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I know what OEM means Hence the phrase "OEM with a few mods on top". I just think it's not enough to call it a proper custom ROM.
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I guess this is your personal choice you call it what ever you like. I can also say green is yellow but its still will be green for everybody else .
Going back to the subject I have also seen a significant price drop since I bought this about 2 months ago. Not sure why is this though I think its a very good phone.
I may unlock my phone and give a shot on the xiaomi.eu rom if everyone saying its great.
Well compared to my mi note 10 it has worse screen, worse in screen fingerprint reader, build quality feels worse, camera setup is nowhere near, battery time is about same on miui 12 (poco f2 got worse, note 10 better in miui 12).
So the only real pros for poco f2 is performance and popup camera.
I kept note 10 as main phone
Hey,
My Pixel XL recently stopped working (battery died), and with my budget I bought a Poco X3. So far its good, but I would like to get some recommendations on ROMS, I loved the pixel ROM and was wondering if I could have something similar to it installed on the Poco X3.
Keep in mind that my usage will include developing apps on android, so I will be testing on it as well. Also if i'm going to be flashing ROMs should I be worried about Xiaomi’s Anti-Rollback Protection?
1. Coming from a Redmi Note 4 (RN4) I know Xiaomi/Poco likes to source components like camera sensors, diplay panels and fingerprint sensors from different manufacturers. If you bought a RN4 half a year after release you got a worse camera sensor (Samsung instead of Sony) and display. What can I expect buying an X3 NFC at this point? Did you hear of worse displays and camera sensors being used? I'd like to have a sony sensor.
2. Does the Gcam on Custom-ROMs perform worse than on Stock MIUI (becauses of worse drivers maybe, I've read this somewhere)?
3. Are there 100% stable Gcams for this phone out there? I've always had crashes in bright sunlight with Gcam on my RN4.
4. Can we expect official LOS for this device soon?
Thanks
uiuiuiui said:
1. Coming from a Redmi Note 4 (RN4) I know Xiaomi/Poco likes to source components like camera sensors, diplay panels and fingerprint sensors from different manufacturers. If you bought a RN4 half a year after release you got a worse camera sensor (Samsung instead of Sony) and display. What can I expect buying an X3 NFC at this point? Did you hear of worse displays and camera sensors being used? I'd like to have a sony sensor.
2. Does the Gcam on Custom-ROMs perform worse than on Stock MIUI (becauses of worse drivers maybe, I've read this somewhere)?
3. Are there 100% stable Gcams for this phone out there? I've always had crashes in bright sunlight with Gcam on my RN4.
4. Can we expect official LOS for this device soon?
Thanks
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1. It's all the same hardware. From the very first reviews to the current point, nothing was changed.
2. I haven't heard that. GCam and ANXCam (stock MIUI camera for custom ROMs) have an own forum, so you may take a look.
3. GCams are pretty stable. If you had crashes in bright sunlight on your phone, you had the wrong version installed.
4. Looks like it. Take a look at the LOS thread.
I got a Poco X3 NFC myself 3 weeks ago to replace my Redmi Note 4X after 4 years or so:
Unlocking the bootloader is the same as for the Redmi Note 4X. Flashing a custom ROM for the first time was a little different than what I was used to but also very easy.
Currently I'm running ArrowOS with GApps pre-installed and I couldn't be happier. Super stable, everything works and has lots of features that are actually Pixel exclusive.
Running ArrowOS, you still get unlimited picture upload in Google Photos, for me example.
The last custom ROM I had on my Redmi Note 4X was AOSiP (Android 10) and ArrowOS feels exactly the same. It's pure Android with the addition of some Pixel features
Noter2017 said:
1. It's all the same hardware. From the very first reviews to the current point, nothing was changed.
2. I haven't heard that. GCam and ANXCam (stock MIUI camera for custom ROMs) have an own forum, so you may take a look.
3. GCams are pretty stable. If you had crashes in bright sunlight on your phone, you had the wrong version installed.
4. Looks like it. Take a look at the LOS thread.
I got a Poco X3 NFC myself 3 weeks ago to replace my Redmi Note 4X after 4 years or so:
Unlocking the bootloader is the same as for the Redmi Note 4X. Flashing a custom ROM for the first time was a little different than what I was used to but also very easy.
Currently I'm running ArrowOS with GApps pre-installed and I couldn't be happier. Super stable, everything works and has lots of features that are actually Pixel exclusive.
Running ArrowOS, you still get unlimited picture upload in Google Photos, for me example.
The last custom ROM I had on my Redmi Note 4X was AOSiP (Android 10) and ArrowOS feels exactly the same. It's pure Android with the addition of some Pixel features
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@uiuiuiui
1. Incorrect. Poco X3 uses Tianma or Huaxing (TCL) panel. Huaxing is better by rule.
2. In photos, no, it takes much better photos. In video, stock camera is better because stabilization works properly. Anyone who says that Gcam video stabilization is much better than MIUI is deluded. Video stabilization in Gcam works in some ROMs, in some not. It works in some Gcam mods, in some not. But when you get it to work, it works horrible with a lot of judder and motion blur effects which are not present in MIUI camera. Gcam uses ROM camera drivers, but Gcam also uses special libs which makes the photo processing much better.
3. Yes, you can check out Gcam thread and try several mods including mine.
4. LineageOS for Poco X3 is developed by gardiol & he said that it won't take anytime soon to get official as he needs to rebase whole device tree for LineageOS 18.1 official. He also did LineageOS 17.1 for which he got approved for official device tree, but not the whole ROM.