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[Q] CM9 porting to the 7 Plus

Has anyone looked at what it would take to port CM9 to this tablet yet?

I would love "ICS" on my 7.0 plus!! Please!!
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As I understand Samsung is releasing ICS during the fist quarter, no release date yet.
I don't think developers are interesting in working on it until it's released. I'm running ICS on my phone, Samsung hasn't released the drivers so the developers have put in a lot of hours and hard work, it's not perfect but getting close. The battery life was terrible at first due to not having the proper drivers but over time it has gotten pretty decent. A working GPS is also an issue, again due to lack of proper drivers. I think the main difference ICS will never be released for my phone unlike our tabs.

GTOJim said:
As I understand Samsung is releasing ICS during the fist quarter, no release date yet.
I don't think developers are interesting in working on it until it's released. I'm running ICS on my phone, Samsung hasn't released the drivers so the developers have put in a lot of hours and hard work, it's not perfect but getting close. The battery life was terrible at first due to not having the proper drivers but over time it has gotten pretty decent. A working GPS is also an issue, again due to lack of proper drivers. I think the main difference ICS will never be released for my phone unlike our tabs.
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I agree, it would be a waste of time for the devs. Patience....
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Agree. Am running the port of CM9 on my NC and while it's sweet and interesting...waiting for the official release is the way to go as its so close.

I seriously doubt samsung will release ICS for our g-tab Q1. If we're lucky it will be Q2, but i'm thinking worst case scenario Q3.

bdds13 said:
I seriously doubt samsung will release ICS for our g-tab Q1. If we're lucky it will be Q2, but i'm thinking worst case scenario Q3.
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I believe they have stated q1 numerous times I'm new to samsungs so I'm not completely sure if they are true on their release dates. It seems to me it would be a waste of time for the devs to even bother until ics is officially released
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ringnutz said:
I believe they have stated q1 numerous times I'm new to samsungs so I'm not completely sure if they are true on their release dates. It seems to me it would be a waste of time for the devs to even bother until ics is officially released
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Samsung has a laughably bad reputation as far as updates go, if they aren't the worse then they are close to it. I would like to see ICS hit Q1 but I will expect it sometime this summer or fall.
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Codiusprime said:
Samsung has a laughably bad reputation as far as updates go, if they aren't the worse then they are close to it. I would like to see ICS hit Q1 but I will expect it sometime this summer or fall.
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Not to derail but you can argue that all android manufacturers are slow with updates, Samsung gets a lot of attention because they sell a lot of phones.
With that said, Samsung is painfully slow and I think this device stands little to no chance of a Q1 update, just my opinion.
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Whenever a carrier, (e.g. AT&T, TMobile, Sprint, Verizon) gets involved, the updates slow to a crawl. In all fairness to Samsung, they've been pretty good with updates to the 10.1. I've seen an update to 3.1 and 3.2 since I bought mine on launch day, and they were fairly quick. Mind you, I'm taking into account the fact that Samsung had to put touchwiz on Honeycomb and fix some of the issues that were left behind when Honeycomb launched. We've also seen Samsung move rather quickly to resolve issues on the 7Plus, including an update that dropped last night that is supposed to fix the SOD issue. All in all, Samsung has been good about updating its wifi-only devices, so while I'm confident that the phones will miss that Q1 deadline, I have high hopes for the tablets.

I hear you but talk to original galaxy tab wifi owners who are still rocking GB.
Hmmm, there was an ota last night?
On topic, I would cm9 on this device. Fingers crossed.
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The reason I asked this is not so much that I can't wait for ICS. It is more derived from wanting an ASOP-ish experience. I am also thinking about the future. OEMs are usually good for the first year of supporting the devices they make. Then they start to fail claiming that the device is not "compatable" with the latest version. I have an old HTC hero that my son uses as an MP3 player. It is running CM7 and the OEM claimed that it would not support gingerbread, heck they even have an ICS port for it.
CM seems to have a good record of keeping supported devices working. I am sure that once ICS is released for the 7 plus there will be custom builds available.

lrs421 said:
I hear you but talk to original galaxy tab wifi owners who are still rocking GB.
Hmmm, there was an ota last night?
On topic, I would cm9 on this device. Fingers crossed.
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I am an original galaxy tab owner still rocking GB. (I've flashed ICS, but I decided to rollback until the camera issues have been solved and more of my Gameloft purchases are updated for ICS compatibility,) I'm not overly upset that Samsung didn't update it to ICS, but that may just be a personal thing.
Samsung started rolling out an OTA last night that will be pushed to all devices over the next two weeks.

rkmj said:
I am an original galaxy tab owner still rocking GB. (I've flashed ICS, but I decided to rollback until the camera issues have been solved and more of my Gameloft purchases are updated for ICS compatibility,) I'm not overly upset that Samsung didn't update it to ICS, but that may just be a personal thing.
Samsung started rolling out an OTA last night that will be pushed to all devices over the next two weeks.
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Official GB? Last I checked the original galaxy tab 7 owners were still rocking Froyo, officially.
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lrs421 said:
Official GB? Last I checked the original galaxy tab 7 owners were still rocking Froyo, officially.
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Official GB. If I were still on Froyo, then I'd be quite upset at Samsung.

lrs421 said:
Not to derail but you can argue that all android manufacturers are slow with updates, Samsung gets a lot of attention because they sell a lot of phones.
With that said, Samsung is painfully slow and I think this device stands little to no chance of a Q1 update, just my opinion.
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They are not only slow but also the updates themselves are notoriously bad and it usually takes a long time for bug fixes. Samsung's software development side is really not that great.
You are right though, as of right now all of the manufacturers suck pretty hardcore. It's pretty ridiculous really, hopefully they get better with releasing fewer devices.
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rkmj said:
Whenever a carrier, (e.g. AT&T, TMobile, Sprint, Verizon) gets involved, the updates slow to a crawl. In all fairness to Samsung, they've been pretty good with updates to the 10.1. I've seen an update to 3.1 and 3.2 since I bought mine on launch day, and they were fairly quick. Mind you, I'm taking into account the fact that Samsung had to put touchwiz on Honeycomb and fix some of the issues that were left behind when Honeycomb launched. We've also seen Samsung move rather quickly to resolve issues on the 7Plus, including an update that dropped last night that is supposed to fix the SOD issue. All in all, Samsung has been good about updating its wifi-only devices, so while I'm confident that the phones will miss that Q1 deadline, I have high hopes for the tablets.
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Yes, it is key to not forget the carrier influences and also bear in mind that carrier-specific variants of, e.g., the Galaxy S2 were not within the scope of Samsung's ICS in Q1 announcement.
My previous phone was the Epic 4G. It was the first US carrier variant to receive official Froyo and Gingerbread updates but it received them well after the "stock" Galaxy S model (GT-I9000, I believe) received them.
So in other words, when looking at Samsung's update record, remember to compare apples to apples. Nexus One got its official Froyo upgrade in May of 2010, I think. The GT-I9000 got its official Froyo upgrade in August. Gingerbread was released in December of 2010 on the Nexus S. I believe the Nexus One got its upgrade in January of 2011 and the GT-I9000 got its GB upgrade in March of 2011.
All in all, not too shabby for Samsung. It's only when you factor in variants (which have all been customized to various degrees which require OS customization) and carrier agendas (I believe AT&T let its phones languish on 2.1 for a good while to not have them be competitive with the iPhone, which was AT&T exclusive at the time) that Samsung's rep starts to take a turn.

The I9000 vs Captivate is probably the clearest example of the negative effect a carrier can have on update releases.
The I9000 and Captivate were close enough that it took developers here very little time (days maybe? weeks at most...) to begin running I9000 releases on the Captivate. However, it took on the order of nine months from the I9000's GB release before the Captivate officially received Gingerbread.
Similarly, Samsung has only been slightly behind other tablet vendors in Honeycomb updates for the Tab 10.1, mainly due to being the first vendor to include a custom skin - but "behind" has usually been at worst 1-2 months of delay.
Similarly, the I9100 is scheduled to receive ICS in March and Sammy seems on track with that. However, the I777 (AT&T variant) probably won't see official ICS until 2013...
For the 7.0 Plus - for the developers the Tab does have, I think polishing the current HC releases is the top priority. Honestly, ICS offers far less compared to HC than it does compared to GB, and right now, there's some major work to be done on the 7.0 Plus thanks to Samsung being asshats with regards to AR6000 driver source code.

rkmj said:
Official GB. If I were still on Froyo, then I'd be quite upset at Samsung.
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Yep, mine was GB right out of the box! Love this little device!

Mines has 3.2 with honeycomb. Not sure what version that is.

Note 3 kitkat update thread

I hope that this doesn't contravene any rules (forgive me if so), but I thought it would be a chance to discuss official n3 kitkat news, information on what the next TW enhancements may be, if any, release dates, ROM leaks and anything that we are hoping for.
Honestly I can't imagine the phone running faster or smoother in the OS, but ART is an interesting feature, hopefully finally YouTube opens instantly with that...
There isn't much info online about a kit kat update as yet, however the few rumours that there are point to a January/February release.
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I don't believe we'll see a kitkat update before s5

Guess the Note 3 will be updated directly to android 5 this time next year.

What makes you say they? Last year s3 got jelly bean after 3 months... The n3 is their current flagship device, there'd be stupid to leave it on an older system for a year with no updates...
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Note 3 will get KitKat no doubt. Especially since they're pitching it in combo with their wearable devices. I personally expect it sometime at the end of Q1 in 2014

If s5 is to come with kitkat, then we will get after that so probably 6 months or so.
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Raw speculation is utterly useless, the update will come when it comes. Right now, only ONE non-nexus device has received Kitkat and that was a more or less stock Motorola Device (keep in mind Motorola is now a Google owned company). Even Cyanogen isn't ready to push out their Kitkat builds for most devices.

...not to mention that, for example, here in Italy we've not yet received even the MJ7..., ...so to speak...

dodgebizkit said:
What makes you say they? Last year s3 got jelly bean after 3 months... The n3 is their current flagship device, there'd be stupid to leave it on an older system for a year with no updates...
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S5 looking like it will be the new Flagship if Samsung really does the Eye Scanner
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2013/11/20/samsung-galaxy-s5-eye-scanner-further-evidence/

My guess is early next year. I'm not too fussed as I have a Nexs 5 running KitKat

The Note 2 is just now getting 4.3... I doubt the Note 3 is getting KitKat anytime soon.
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hopefully they will release it very soooonnn..

Im sure that Note 3 will get android v4.4 KitKat Soon~
Hopefuly it will come before xmas :victory:

I think February is a good time to hope for, 3 months, like the first main updates for a new galaxy flagship tend to be.
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I'd risk a Febuary date for release also, but if we are to believe sammobile and Samsung are testing KK, they may surprise us intime for Christmas! one can only hope

Kitkat will only come once samsung have been able to add their Mods and features to it.... and it's working properly. ... so if they are testing it already. .. Just a matter of time before they get it sorted. I don't think they'll wait for the s5 if everything is running properly. ... afterall.... The note 3 consumers are not the same as the s series consumers so pointless to hold of took s5 is ready. ... Just my thoughts. ..
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January is my bet

I am currently running a hacked together KitKat on my Note 3 with little issue. Grab a pack of KitKat apk, design and system files and overwrite the system resources with them and you're up and going with a Touchwiz / KitKat hybrid. I used the W03 KitKat Experience pack and flashed that.

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/22...-january-s-iii-and-note-ii-before-april-2014/
We can only hope....
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From sam mobile website. i think around january 2014

Update to Android 4.4.3 is around the corner

Samsung is apparently getting closer and closer to releasing its first software versions based on Android 4.4.3.
The first devices to get an Android 4.4.3 build from the Korean company are going to be the Galaxy S5 and the Galaxy Note 3, it seems. That would make perfect sense, given how these are right now Samsung's flagships in their respective market segments.
According to a purportedly leaked internal document, the Android 4.4.3 updates for both Snapdragon and Exynos versions of the Galaxy S5 have been finalized and are due out before the end of this month.
In the case of the Galaxy Note 3, development has reached the final testing stage. If all goes well, the new bits should be ready to roll out to users sometime in July.
Previous such leaked documents surfaced last month, when the Galaxy S5's update was still being worked on. Now that it's finalized, the guessing game begins - which will be the first territory (or carrier) to get Android 4.4.3?
One thing to note is that the document pictured above has some odd font differences in it, which may indicate a bad Photoshop job. So do take this with a pinch of salt.
Further complicating things is the fact that Google has just released Android 4.4.4 to its Nexus devices, a version that seems to contain a pretty important security fix.
That leads us to wonder: will Samsung first release 4.4.3 for its devices only to then start working on what is now the latest version of the OS? Or will it choose to skip 4.4.3 altogether and simply come out with a 4.4.4 build, even if that means delaying the release for a short while?
Since the newest iteration of Android isn't bringing new things to the table, just fixing bugs, the latter hypothesis isn't completely implausible.
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good news !

Wonder if this update will contain the new TW theme (S5). It looks very nice on a note 3, running a S5 port now on my device

I bet it will be on note 4 only
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Samsung should migrate the Note 3 to the S5 Touchwiz and not keep it where it is. They have no reason not to and hopefully they do it by September/October.

LOL! i remember seeing that picture like a month ago even before 4.4.3 was officially released with S4 on top and S5 at the bottom, that's obvious photoshop job to the image to add Note 3 there

I'd rather they didn't. The Android 5.0 announcement is today, and if we get 4.4.3 now, it means we probably won't get 5.0 (the 2 version-number changing updates maximum policy in the contracts with Google.)

zat0x said:
Wonder if this update will contain the new TW theme (S5). It looks very nice on a note 3, running a S5 port now on my device
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Where did you get that???
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dodgebizkit said:
Where did you get that???
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Look here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771454

ShadowLea said:
I'd rather they didn't. The Android 5.0 announcement is today, and if we get 4.4.3 now, it means we probably won't get 5.0 (the 2 version-number changing updates maximum policy in the contracts with Google.)
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Yip L was announced today, and factory images for N5 and N7 are available tomorrow..

ShadowLea said:
I'd rather they didn't. The Android 5.0 announcement is today, and if we get 4.4.3 now, it means we probably won't get 5.0 (the 2 version-number changing updates maximum policy in the contracts with Google.)
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Someone who works for t mobile (Raziel) has said that the note 3 will receive 4.4.3 and android L update. He's been right before and I'm betting he'll be right again when the time comes.
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d12unk13astard said:
Someone who works for t mobile (Raziel) has said that the note 3 will receive 4.4.3 and android L update. He's been right before and I'm betting he'll be right again when the time comes.
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Oh I know. I'm just saying I'd rather they skipped the middle update, because there's a limit as to how many larger updates a device will get.
And he's not the only one working for T-Mobile (Except I'm not with T-Mobile USA, but rather T-Mobile NL & it's mother company, Deutsche Telekom, as their Samsung expert.)
The point is that the US Branded devices have an entirely different schedule, since their devices also have their own device codes. The N900T has nothing to do with the N9005. And as such, the S3 in the US will get KitKAt, where the EU S3 will not, even the identical-to-the-NA-version 4G variant.

Samsung out with Oreo before Essential?

I am shocked by Samsung's release of Oreo beta before Essential. I was under the impression that Essential woild be releasing Android updates soon after Google released them.
Any news on Oreo update for Essential?

well the S8 and S8+ are 8 months old phones. Essential was released 2 months ago so...

Negotiator50 said:
I am shocked by Samsung's release of Oreo beta before Essential. I was under the impression that Essential woild be releasing Android updates soon after Google released them.
Any news on Oreo update for Essential?
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I was actually thinking the exact same thing. I can understand Essential does not want to rush out an update which is barely usable, but at least a very rough estimate would be highly appreciated. "Soon" is not an actual timeframe.

Actually, Oreo hasn't been released for the S8 and S8+. It's only a beta test program, limited to 7500 users (about 0.1% of total devices) world wide. In the US, one has to be on TMO or Sprint or have a carrier unlocked device (purchased directly from Samsung) to sign up.
I expect that Essential will release the full production version of Oreo before Samsung (expected early next year, based on past experience).

Android 9.0 Pie

maybe it's too early to ask or dumbest question, but any news for S7 getting next upgrade?

Android Oreo is last big update for S7.

ah that's sad. SD820/exynos + 4GB of ram is more than enough to running an android 9.

Unfortunately. The S9 is a crap phone. Ugly, and the horrible curved sides are stupid and interfere with proper case protection. Not even sure there's any variation of the S9 with unlocked an bootloader.

:/
The S7 Hardware is compatible with the Android Pie, the Snapdragon 820 (or Exynos 8890) run perfectly, but the Sammy don't want give the update.

sremick said:
Unfortunately. The S9 is a crap phone. Ugly, and the horrible curved sides are stupid and interfere with proper case protection. Not even sure there's any variation of the S9 with unlocked an bootloader.
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Not any US variation, but the Exynos model is same as always with official TWRP support and ROM's.

Beanvee7 said:
Not any US variation, but the Exynos model is same as always with official TWRP support and ROM's.
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So you're saying the Exynos S8 and S9 still have unlocked bootloaders? I swear I had read that that stopped being the case, but I'd welcome being wrong.

sremick said:
So you're saying the Exynos S8 and S9 still have unlocked bootloaders? I swear I had read that that stopped being the case, but I'd welcome being wrong.
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Yep, there's big development sections for both
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/samsung-galaxy-s9--s9-cross-device-development
The TWRP thread also has the same bootloader unlock steps, but reading it now it does mention apparently phones have a 7 day cool down before OEM unlock becomes possible.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75893923&postcount=3

The S7 flat was the last hardware Samsung did right in a phone. The Samsung experience is overblown. The curved screen is gimmick. The specs for S8 and S9 are not great for the $ compared to S7. I wouldn't hold my breath for anything awesome in Android 9, which will take a year to never. Until then, LOS 16 will become stable and bug free.
Have a good day.

gruuvin said:
The S7 flat was the last hardware Samsung did right in a phone.
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No, that'd be the S5 which still had a removable battery and did it while still being water-resistant.

gruuvin said:
The S7 flat was the last hardware Samsung did right in a phone. The Samsung experience is overblown. The curved screen is gimmick. The specs for S8 and S9 are not great for the $ compared to S7. I wouldn't hold my breath for anything awesome in Android 9, which will take a year to never. Until then, LOS 16 will become stable and bug free.
Have a good day.
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Same thoughts here... Good day to you too.

So, are we saying that the last update for the S7 was Android 8.0.0 (obvious), or are we saying that Samsung has proclaimed that there will be no Android 9 update to the S7 (not so obvious)?

gruuvin said:
So, are we saying that the last update for the S7 was Android 8.0.0 (obvious), or are we saying that Samsung has proclaimed that there will be no Android 9 update to the S7 (not so obvious)?
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i really hope the android pie will be the last for S7/Edge. but, the latest security patch i've got is 1st august, so i think there's no chance for S7/Edge to get the android pie. 2 year for major upgrade and 3/4 year for security patch (Quarterly not monthly).

November security patch

Nothing official but there is always lineage os or other custom roms.
Someone may end up porting pie touchwiz but probably not anytime soon

dvfcpl said:
The S7 Hardware is compatible with the Android Pie, the Snapdragon 820 (or Exynos 8890) run perfectly, but the Sammy don't want give the update.
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Ofcourse they won't give the update, they just want to sell new phones instead of keeping the old ones running.
Even the Google security patches takes really long time for them to push out, i waited 4 months on security patches even thou they are obligated to push them out within 90 days.