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[Q] Mobile HiDef Link (MHL)

This looks awsome.....
Anyone know how much this device will support MHL?
I see it has an MHL enabled usb but does anyone know if this will work out of the box? I can't find much info about it thats device specific.

I think it is safe to say it will work out of the box, in that the phone will support MHL out of the USB port. The question will be if the MHL cable will be included in the box.
The other issue is what will you plug it into? I do not think there are any tv sets with an MHL compatible HDMI port yet.
I would imagine that at first will will have to use MHL adapter cables that split from the MHL-USB side to normal HDMI plus a USB charging cable at the other end. Or just straight to HDMI and forgo the charging aspect.

Can u use a normal HDTV or do u need a MHL HDTV?

from what I've found out any tv with hdmi should work it just won't power from the tv.

Ive just found the answer to my questions, You will be able to connect an MHL phone to a non-MHL TV through the use of an adapter, it works the same as HDMI cable. Just no charging feature unless u use the Y-adapter where u can put a mini HDMI and a charger in the same adapter so then ull get best of both worlds.
The samsung Y-adaptor will be out in a month or so. U can then charge ya phone while watching media from ya phone, http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-mhl-adaptor
but i thought of somthin, y would u need this if u can stream from ya phone to ya ps3 etc.. dont get me wrong a sgsII in the samsung dock would look real neet and to use ya tv remote to view ya phones content will be flashy, but its a lil bit much money to buy the accessories needed just to be flash to ya mates, wen ya can stream free to a ps3 with no cables etc...
Can this MHL mirror the phone just like a tv out, coz playin games on ya tv via ya phone is fun

U can mirror

SlimPort [USB to HDMI, DVI, VGA and DisplayPort]

The exciting features of the Nexus 4 just keep on coming. It seems it will support a technology called SlimPort which allows you to use the micro USB to connect the phone to a second display via HDMI, DVI, VGA and DisplayPort.
The only connector available at present is for HDMI, which also charges the device while connected. Other connectors are to be released in the future.
Info from Engadget.
EDIT: New review from AnandTech. See below:
In my Nexus 4 review, I noted that the device was the first shipping handset to include support for SlimPort via an Analogix ANX7808 SlimPort transmitter. When I wrote that review it wasn't immediately clear what advantages SlimPort offered over MHL, which has become relatively ubiquitous in the year or so since its introduction. Since then I've acquired the SlimPort microUSB to HDMI 1.4 SP1002 and VGA (D-SUB) SP2002 adapters from Analogix for testing out SlimPort on the Nexus 4.
SlimPort is a new video output standard which works over microUSB, and is effectively an MHL alternative based on the DisplayPort standard administered by VESA. SlimPort is offered both license and royalty free, and supports up to 1080p60 or 1080p30 with 3D content over HDMI 1.4 (up to 5.4 Gbps of bandwidth), in addition to support for DVI, VGA (up to 1366x768 and 720p at 60 Hz), and DisplayPort. What's different about SlimPort from a user-facing perspective is that external microUSB power is not required for the adapter to work and is instead only required for optional charging. At the same time, the adapters draw no power from the source to operate.
I've spent some time playing around with the SP1002 HDMI adapter, which I believe is based on ANX7730, and the SP2002 VGA adapter, which is likely based on ANX9832. As of this writing, the Analogix SP1002 adapter is available on Amazon for around $30 USD. I haven't seen the SP2002 available online anywhere yet, however.
When connected to the Nexus 4, the HDMI adapter rotates the UI into landscape and mirrors the display just as expected. Resolution is scaled to 1080p60 on the Nexus 4 up from the panel resolution of 1280x768, which results in some letterboxing. As expected there's no requirement to have microUSB power connected to the adapter, I tested it with and without external microUSB power, all this does is just enable charging.
I posted a video review (shot on the Samsung Galaxy Camera) demonstrating the Nexus 4 doing mirroring with the SlimPort SP1002 adapter and received a query about whether the combo enables multichannel audio over HDMI as well. I tested VLC for Android with some .MKVs I had laying around with 5.1 AAC tracks and found that VLC will decode the multichannel audio and ship it over as 5.1 PCM to my A/V Receiver, so this does work, surprisingly enough. There's no bitstreaming support as far as I can tell, however. As an aside I was able to playback a number of 720p MKVs with hardware decoding checked in VLC for Android and 5.1 audio out with no dropped frames. The Nexus 4 seems to be a passable platform if you're looking to play the occasional 720p video over HDMI — provided you have the free storage for it.
I also tested out the SP2002 microUSB SlimPort to VGA adapter, which has a longer cable and correspondingly beefier module for accommodating the D-SUB connector on the end. I tried with a Dell G2410 LCD display and XGA resolution DLP projector and saw an output resolution of VGA (640x480 at 60 Hz), which wasn't quite what I expected. The SP2002 should work just fine with 720p60 over VGA, and I know both monitors expose the proper EDID, it seems as though the Nexus 4 just defaults to this mode. Just like the HDMI adapter there's a microUSB port on the back for optional charging, though the dongle doesn't require external power to operate.
Thus far I'm fairly impressed with SlimPort. I enjoyed discrete microHDMI connections on devices when that was the norm, though finding a microHDMI to HDMI cable was always the challenge. Later MHL seemed a step in the right direction, but requiring three cables to do display mirroring seemed like a bit much. With SlimPort I think we've finally arrived at something close to ideal with the standard not requiring external power to function. It will be interesting to see how SlimPort, MHL, and Miracast adoption fare in the coming year as mirroring to a larger display is in the cards as a convergence trend for smartphones and tablets.
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Charges the device while it's connected? That's awesome!

I questioned that at first as well. If you follow the link to the adapter and look at the pics you'll notice that it has a USB input. I assume this has to be connected to charge the phone. As far as I'm aware HDMI doesn't carry power.

Only TVs with built in MHL HDMI Ports provide power.
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I read that the adapter has to have a power source to work... I assume then that this additional micro USB input is to enable use with TV's that dont support MHL.

Nothing like this exists now? Intriguing concept.

Will this work without having the charger connected? It seems nearly identical to Samsung MHL adapters.

I bought one. It seems like the packaging said something about the micro usb port being optional if you want it to charge, but I threw that stuff away and don't have an N4 to test with.
I think the "HDTV Cable" on the SlimPort site is going to be a cable that's micro usb (SlimPort) on one side, and HDMI on the other without any power input.

I ordered one as well
Cant wait to try it

FatalityBoyZahy said:
Charges the device while it's connected? That's awesome!
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As funny as that sounds, that would actually be nice. I know it's not SlimPort, but I use a Monoprice MHL-HDMI adapter currently. It requires power to work. Unfortunately, it can't negotiate high current and the phone shows USB charge mode. But with the screen active, it ends up losing 10-100ma. I haven't researched the actual micro-usb pinout to see if video uses the usb data pins or what. If somehow it doesn't, I might be able to short them out and have it go into AC charge mode.
Or maybe the better MHL adapters actually do negotiation and do charge?
Either way, hopefully the initial feedback on the N4 is good enough that I can overlook the fixed battery and storage.

ziddey said:
As funny as that sounds, that would actually be nice. I know it's not SlimPort, but I use a Monoprice MHL-HDMI adapter currently. It requires power to work. Unfortunately, it can't negotiate high current and the phone shows USB charge mode. But with the screen active, it ends up losing 10-100ma. I haven't researched the actual micro-usb pinout to see if video uses the usb data pins or what. If somehow it doesn't, I might be able to short them out and have it go into AC charge mode.
Or maybe the better MHL adapters actually do negotiation and do charge?
Either way, hopefully the initial feedback on the N4 is good enough that I can overlook the fixed battery and storage.
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My MHL adapter charged my GS3 charged when watching the Avengers movie Samsung gave T-Mobile GS3 customers. It was a pretty slow charge, but prevented my battery from dying like it should have.

I think this would be a lot more appealing in dock form.
The cable+block adapters are always a bit awkward to connect up and actually use in my opinion.

Will an MHL adapter work? I was using one on my GS2 and want to know if I will be able to use it on my N4

the video on this page specifically says that no external power source is needed.
http://www.analogix.com/products/slimport.html

I tried mine yesterday
I works with no power at all
Although I must say the phone got pretty hot when watching a YouTube video
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Just ordered one of these Slimport adapters from Amazon since my Google order has just shipped. Reasonably priced and power is optional unlike MHL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK6HttbgTaI&feature=plcp

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I tried mine yesterday
I works with no power at all
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Mine arrived from Amazon yesterday but I can't get a picture on the TV, when I plug everything in the screen on the N4 rotates to landscape and the phone loses sound, all good so far. But when I select HDMI source on the TV I just get a black screen.
This is annoying because the S3 worked perfectly with the Samsung adaptor.

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Mine arrived from Amazon yesterday but I can't get a picture on the TV, when I plug everything in the screen on the N4 rotates to landscape and the phone loses sound, all good so far. But when I select HDMI source on the TV I just get a black screen.
This is annoying because the S3 worked perfectly with the Samsung adaptor.
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Is your TV set to the correct HDMI port?
Nexus4, Tapatalk

There are apparently 3 dongles out there being marketed with a male microusb and female hdmi output:
Can someone please provide clarity on which ones will work with the nexus 4? Specifically looking for someone to post results for example 1
1. Generic MicroUSB MHL dongle cable : these are sold on ebay and optionally have an extra female microusb on them for OTG or power. This one will NOT work on Galaxy S3 bc of pin change. Can someone report if this type works on Nexus 4? It would be the most affordable solution if so
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-Micro-U...748540?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e74de5c3c
2. Samsung SGS3 MHL dongle cable: bc of samsung pin change, this cable was specifically required for SGS3. - Reported not working on Nexus 4
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/09/galaxy-s-iii-incompatible-with-previous-mhl-dongles/
3. Slimport microUSB cable - Reported working on Nexus 4, but pricey
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009UZBLSG?tag=5336653508-20

Picking the right sctive MHL cable for Note 4 ( Enyos SM-N910C 8 core )

Hi all,
I want to use my Note 4 as a PC with connected USB switch and a TV for a monitor.
What I know so far about the MHL cable:
1. It has to be active cable, with a power supply feeding from my 2A phone charger
2. Every article suggests that Note4 has 11 pin USB connector. So I can use it like a PC with such cable.
3. MHL 2.0 can transfer 1080p @ 60fps, Note 4 has MHL 2.0
What do you guys think, what cable you suggest that I should pick?
One would be the following, according to my research:
http://www.amazon.de/CSL-Adapterkab..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=1NB4JR4JTSNX4ANBM298
Cheers !

The Note 4 also supports MHL 3.0 which allows power to be drawn from the TV directly. I believe your TV must have a MHL port to utilize this to the fullest. Is this more power than coming from an power outlet? I don't know.

blindskater39 said:
The Note 4 also supports MHL 3.0 which allows power to be drawn from the TV directly. I believe your TV must have a MHL port to utilize this to the fullest. Is this more power than coming from an power outlet? I don't know.
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Hi, my TV is: http://www.samsung.com/fr/support/model/UE40ES6710SXZF
Though I want to be able to do this using every TV that has HDMI

Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !

dvd_video said:
Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !
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The cable you found should work. You may need a USB hub to use a keyboard and mouse simultaneously. I haven't tried a Bluetooth keyboard or mouse but you might be able to connect 2 devices at the same time?

Since you want to use your note 4 as a computer i recommend you to buy Samsung Smart Dock multimedia hub. I have it and my cracked screen S4 is connected to my TV and i use a wireless keyboard to browse and watch movies from showbox etc... better than any smart tv out there.
if you look on eBay you can get it cheaper, i think i bought mine for $50 almost 2yrs ago. it has 3 usb port for flash drive, keyboard mouse, hdd
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
here is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLs5EVv3B1A

mha1021 said:
Since you want to use your note 4 as a computer i recommend you to buy Samsung Smart Dock multimedia hub. I have it and my cracked screen S4 is connected to my TV and i use a wireless keyboard to browse and watch movies from showbox etc... better than any smart tv out there.
if you look on eBay you can get it cheaper, i think i bought mine for $50 almost 2yrs ago. it has 3 usb port for flash drive, keyboard mouse, hdd
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
here is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLs5EVv3B1A
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That's nice though, if I was from US that is. Sadly this thing is no where to be found in Bulgaria ...
Check out this review:
http://www.blogyourearth.com/en/smartphone-2/samsung-multimedia-smart-dock-edd-s20jwegsta/5164

Hello, anyone ???

dvd_video said:
Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !
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blindskater39 said:
The Note 4 also supports MHL 3.0 which allows power to be drawn from the TV directly. I believe your TV must have a MHL port to utilize this to the fullest. Is this more power than coming from an power outlet? I don't know.
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blindskater39 said:
The cable you found should work. You may need a USB hub to use a keyboard and mouse simultaneously. I haven't tried a Bluetooth keyboard or mouse but you might be able to connect 2 devices at the same time?
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My Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (N910H) can use MHL cable (11 pins) without external power on my old Samsung TV that doesn't support MHL natively (I have to use USB charger when I connect my old HTC Sensation on the same TV).
I also use Bluetooth Headset & Gamepad at the same time with no lag while on my Gear VR.
But I've never tried all Bluetooth Mouse, Keyboard, Headset & Gamepad...maybe I will try it tonight
Use you charger only to charge your phone when needed
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I use 3 old MHL cable with micro USB 5 pins to 11 pins converter & all working well, without external power source.

dvd_video said:
Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !
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Best solution I've found for being able to charge the phone, have USB OTG and MHL out to a TV at the same time is the Samsung Smart Media Dock:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Multimedia-Smart-Galaxy-Series-White/dp/B009KZ3XE6
...they're usually available for ~£20 on ebay. Keyboards/mice etc work fine with it. You have 3x USB ports, HDMI out and stereo headphone out (and I believe the audio over HDMI is capable of 5.1).
The one thing I can't get to work is an Xbox 360 controller (preferred over the PS3 controller I have because I'd rather wired than bluetooth). Works ok with my old S3, but the Note doesn't register it when connected. I don't know if that's a ROM/Kernel issue though, as the S3 ROM/Kernel I use has a module to enable XBox controllers.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Multimedia-Smart-Galaxy-Series-White/dp/B009KZ3XE6
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That's nice but i doubt that these guys will ship the thing to Bulgaria ( It always happens with stuff like that ). Thanks for the replay. At least I will know that to search for

Dextop setup...

Starting a thread to see what kind of kooky and cool ideas peeps have come up with for their setup.
I just bought another Logitech MX570 trackball mouse. My 3rd. I like to go back and forth between traditional mice (MX Performance) and trackball so I don't get carpal tunnel and tendonitis. I'm up in the air about the dedicated keyboard. I will probably get the Logitech K800 as that has been my favorite so far. I would like to try the Craft but too expensive.
I know many of you are just going straight usb-c to HDMI adapter and using Bluetooth accessories. Those are welcome too. It would be really nice if Logitech came out with a sweet sweet keyboard with touchpad built in. There are a couple but the cheap one is just that, cheap and low quality. I bought my mom the K400 and it works fine for her but not for me. Logitech needs to step up their game on a keyboard with touchpad built in.
I am also using Logitech because of the unifying receiver so only USB port is taken for 2 accessories. Have not decided on a USB thumb drive yet.
What setups are you running for productivity with DEX? Please share so there is a thread peeps (that actually use the search function) can come and see what options there are to fit their workflow. Or haven't thought of.
I will update later today see if my USB controllers work for emulators and what the latency is, which I am hoping is just as good as mouse input. I was expecting critical latency that would make the experience bad.
Anybody try with a USB powered monitor yet?

I'm sorry, but..... pics or it didn't happen, right?

I invested in this dex stuff just as a hobby. I already have 4 pc’s plus a laptop and an iPad Pro 12.9 i carry with me daily.
I passed on it with the note 8 but thought to give it a go the note 9.
I also use the mxperformance mouse for my pcs but i picked up a jelly comb foldable portable wireless keyboard. It has a click-style mouse pad and the keypad is pleasant to use. I also picked up the dex pad , hdmi 2.0b latest spec hdmi cable.
I guess a good way to use this setup will be when I download films to the device. Rather than copy the file over to the pc, i can just connect the dex to the display and have better flexibility.

I found the jelly comb folding keyboard to be crap. Double characters everywhere. Moved to a generic wireless mouse on one of the USB ports and an MS folding BT keyboard. It's replaced my work laptop for 80% of tasks. Oh and powering the HDMI adapter by a Nintendo switch USB C power supply as it kicks out 2.6A which is enough to charge the phone at the same time.

I probably won't post a pic (if I even remember) until Friday or Saturday. I think I will try using it one day and a USB 3 thumb drive. I think DEX only supports USB 2 though. Another missed opportunity by Samsung to make this an even better pseudo desktop experience. Did Sammy use 3 or 3.1 for their USB C? Having two or even one USB 3 A port would've been sweet for local storage. Between a Logitech unifying receiver and a SanDisk UltraFit USB 3 drive and you're talking one smaller desktop.
Samsung could make some corny commercials pitting it against Intel NUC boxes like their Apple commercials. ???

Hi guys I have my dex set up, however I'm looking for a Bluetooth keyboard my monitor only has an hdmi, vga connection so I need advice on what will be my best option maybe I should get a cable with a USB receiver for an wireless keyboard any inputs are welcomed thanks.

I'm using my Note9 with Dex running on HP X3 lap dock. Great setup for travel but also when I need to edit things locally on the phone----tasker for example. Everything works on the lap dock including sound. Track pad works but could be better.

soundneedle said:
I'm using my Note9 with Dex running on HP X3 lap dock. Great setup for travel but also when I need to edit things locally on the phone----tasker for example. Everything works on the lap dock including sound. Track pad works but could be better.
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Woah, you have a working sound for hp elite? Is there any special way to get it?

I had picked up a DeX dock from Amazon for 60 bucks. I used a logitech anywhere BT mouse and the blue BT keyboard. Mouse and keyboard work great. Resolution looks crappy, seem kinda blurry for a 1080p screen. Still needs work, I was hoping to get the DeX working good enough to use as a htpc streamer for my living room TV. Still fun to play around with tho.
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does DeX work with any cheap HDMI to usb C adapter that supports 4k and 60 Hz? There are some on eBay for 7 bucks

dex output is crystal clear for me. I have used this on an lg 4K 27 inch monitor and my old school plasma Panasonic 3D display from 2011
I have a late spec hdmi 2.0b cable and again the resolution is not blurry at all. Plenty of videos on the web to also show the clarity .
Yes dex works with a regular hdmi spec cable usb c to hdmi. I have also used dex with just a cable (waiting on the pad tho show up)

What happens when incoming call?
Hi. Not sure where to post this. Thinking of jumping from iPhone to Note9
Can somebody tell me if I will be able to use the Note9 as a normal handset with an incoming call? (While in Dex). Everything I see indicates the acutal Note9 runs independent when docked but I can't find any example of making/receiving a call on one.
I want to use a USB extension cable and just be able to use the phone like normal when connected to Dex. Not sure what happens to the audio if I'm also using external speakers via Dex.
Thanks!

RTNote9 said:
Hi. Not sure where to post this. Thinking of jumping from iPhone to Note9
Can somebody tell me if I will be able to use the Note9 as a normal handset with an incoming call? (While in Dex). Everything I see indicates the acutal Note9 runs independent when docked but I can't find any example of making/receiving a call on one.
I want to use a USB extension cable and just be able to use the phone like normal when connected to Dex. Not sure what happens to the audio if I'm also using external speakers via Dex.
Thanks!
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I've received several phone calls when on DeX.. Since I'm working in a personal room, I'm just answering the phone calls using speakerphone.. If you're using external speaker, the audio will be routed there (I once used my UE Boom 2 speaker for answering call)

thanks.
I know I'm still connected to Dex via a USB-C extension cable but I'd like to be able to just pick up the phone and use it "privately" like normal. Is that possible?
I believe something changed with the Note9 making it work differently with Dex.

RTNote9 said:
thanks.
I know I'm still connected to Dex via a USB-C extension cable but I'd like to be able to just pick up the phone and use it "privately" like normal. Is that possible?
I believe something changed with the Note9 making it work differently with Dex.
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If you're using USB-C to monitor, in my experience, you can just answer phone normally on phone

vwite said:
does DeX work with any cheap HDMI to usb C adapter that supports 4k and 60 Hz? There are some on eBay for 7 bucks
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Got one for 20 that works fine

vwite said:
does DeX work with any cheap HDMI to usb C adapter that supports 4k and 60 Hz? There are some on eBay for 7 bucks
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I got mines from Amazon for $15 no issues, got it hook up to a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.

mike28 said:
Hi guys I have my dex set up, however I'm looking for a Bluetooth keyboard my monitor only has an hdmi, vga connection so I need advice on what will be my best option maybe I should get a cable with a USB receiver for an wireless keyboard any inputs are welcomed thanks.
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Apple's Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse 2 work both flawlessly. I only wish my Dex cable was longer, to truly be able to have the TV far from me...

xonyl said:
Apple's Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse 2 work both flawlessly. I only wish my Dex cable was longer, to truly be able to have the TV far from me...
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Are you talking about the HDMI cable? HDMI cables are cheap.

mike28 said:
I got mines from Amazon for $15 no issues, got it hook up to a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
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which one did you get for 15 bucks? I got one from ebay for 7 bucks (only the adapter hdmi to usb c) and didn't work at all but maybe is my hdmi cable which is really old

car tablet required... suggestions please

so i compete in a car audio budget limited class in the UK
i am looking for a hens tooth i think
so my requirements are ideally 7-8" tablet with usb ideally c so i can use my usb c hub with a topping D10 dac and also use usb audio player pro to get bit perfect output from the tablet via the topping D10, along with insert usb sticks in the hub to play music from (i have a usb extension lead to a panel mount socket on the centre console so i can hide the hub
under 150 if possible, but if the usb c causes grief at this price point i can go to micro usb as long as the device supports charging and otg at the same time
so far i have tried a galaxy tab a 10.1 t510 which did work, but was a bit too big, i have also tried a lenovo tab 4 plus 10" and this also works with my u green hub and the topping D10, however both were too big and i wanted a more compact tablet
i also had to modifiy the wiring to the hub with a relay on the power side of it to prevent the hub draining the battery while the tab is in standby overnight
so i then have in my possesion a amazon 8 hd plus... how simple is it to make something that works? so if i plug my hub in i can get music from the topping into the car, if i plug the charger into the hub i cant get the tablet to charge (sort of although it was very slow if working at all) via the hub like the samsung and lenovo do.... if i unplug the hub and plug it back in it then charges and i cant see the topping... i did kind of find a solution, if i plug a micro usb charger into the hub with a wireless charger on the end and connect the topping the topping makes sound, and also then position the wireless charger at the rear of the tablet i can get sound and also charge... however it didnt seem to want to go past 42% so i suspect the amazon is going to be a fail and get returned, its ideal at 110 quid or whatever it cost
i understand most samsungs with micro usb will actually charge and otg at the same time, so a tab a 8" 2019 would be a solution i think... but now ive bought 3 tablets and an ipad (these do solve my issue but i need an ipad mini 2 16gb without a knackered lightening port... got one off ebay that wouldnt charge already... but they do give bit perfect output but cant use a usb stick for music input... hence the android tablet still appealing)
any suggestions for my requirements are welcomed!
basically 7-8" devices with usb c that will work with my hub, or micro usb that support otg and charging at the same time
for daily use i will also use my iphone XR 256gb into a second topping D10 as i can then get bit perfect tidal stuff, and store it on the device as signal can be hit or miss around my way